Re: Installation plays hardball
On 12/31/2009 01:49 AM, Garrick Sitongia wrote: I just installed Fedora for the first time on my Windows/Linux dual boot system. The Fedora installer gave me the option of installing over the present linux installation on the disk, an old Mandriva version. I assumed this meant the operating system partition. There were 2 other unrelated ext3 partitions for photo archives and e-mail backup. After booting into Fedora I discovered that the Fedora installer wiped every linux partition without confirmation or consent. I have installed other versions of Linux and I have always been given a choice. Your installer should indicate that ALL linux type file systems will be wiped, in addition to the operating system file system. Garrick My sympathies. There are tools that can recover the data if you don't write to the disk anymore. I have done it in the past. To respond to the rest of the messages. I have used LVM and it has it's good and bad points. I have since stopped using it due to the issues I had. The only issue was the LVM name on a removed drive that I wanted to recover data from. The menu system should come up with a Confirm by default. When there is existing data, the second to have two pop-up's asking you to be sure would be well worth it. I installed F12 on three different systems over the past couple of weeks and in all cases the default was not what I would have chosen. The idea of installing is to replace, upgrading is to keep some data. This a user issue. My only issue with installing was encrypted drives (No LVM) dropping the system out of the installation process. Did it on two different systems. Reboot and restart with the encrypted partitions already formed. I guess there needs to be a bug report. Maybe a check box for using LVM would be nice as well. -- Robin Laing -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How many people need to use the proprietary nvidia driver ? (Or other non kms driver ?)
On 12/22/2009 09:21 PM, Linuxguy123 wrote: Please reply if you need to ( ie must) use the proprietary nvidia driver instead of the nouveau driver. Or some other video driver that doesn't support kernel mode switching. DON'T reply otherwise, I don't want to hear a debate on the free versions versus proprietary or anything else. If you are using the proprietary nvidia driver or some other non kms equipped driver, how are you finding F12 ? Ie do you experience freezing when you access some panel items ? Thanks I tried the Nouveau driver on a new laptop but it didn't support 3D for Stellarium or games. I see that there is some open source 3D but I couldn't find the rpm. When there is an RPM I will try it. (Gallium) I have an old laptop that is running the Nouveau driver but it's response is slower than under F7. I will test the Nvidia driver and if it responds faster, then I will leave it on. (Multimedia) At work I need 3D support. Desktop at home needs 3D support. 4 machines - 3 Nvidia 1 Nouveau (for now) -- Robin Laing -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: suggested DVD editing toolset?
Kevin Kempter wrote: Hi All; I'm sad to find that all of the companies that set out to provide modified copies of DVD movies with the token hollywood crap removed and the language cleaned up have all been sued into oblivion by hollywood. So, I'd like to to modify my own DVD's and watch the cleaned up copies. However I'm totally oblivious to even the slightest details about this area of computing (I'm a database guy). So, Im looking for suggestions per user friendly oss tools to pull this off and possibly info/web sites that will explain more about how to do this. Thanks in advance If you want to edit the VOB files and then reburn, then look for a program PgcEdit. It gives you the ability to edit them menus and flow of the DVD's. I don't know of any real way of censoring DVD's other than buying them at Wal Mart. I did read some time ago about a site that had the time codes for language that you could use but I never had an interest because I don't believe in censorship. -- Robin Laing -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: should I go for 64bit version of Fedora 11 ?
Jatin K wrote: On 11/03/2009 02:55 PM, Aioanei Rares wrote: On 11/03/2009 11:15 AM, Jatin K wrote: On 11/03/2009 01:34 PM, Aioanei Rares wrote: On 11/03/2009 09:38 AM, Jatin K wrote: Dear all I've purchased a new Dell laptop Vostro 1520, major configuration[1] , My question is should I go for FC 11 64bit version ? is there any significant benefit if I use 64bit version ? one more question is there in my mind that will I see any significant improvements in speed related issue if I go with 64bit version of OS ?? Some people reported overall speed increases because of the reasons mentioned earlier; however, do you have a reason not to go 64-bit? one I heard that adobe flash has some problems with 64bit kernel . and other 32bit software creates some problem ( I'm not instrumenting with you ... I just need suggestion from the list so please don't misunderstand me ) Regards I have use Fedora 64 bit since I could. I have only come into one problem. Some CODECS don't work in 64 bit with mplayer/vlc. I have to transcode those files in 32 bit to save the files. Indeo (sp) CODECS for those interested. -- Robin Laing -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: External eSATA drive downgraded to 1.5Gbs
Konstantin Svist wrote:
On 10/26/2009 11:32 AM, Kam Leo wrote:
On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 5:12 AM, Andy Campbell
[snip]
[trantor] ~ $dmesg | grep ata7
My drives are internal SATA I have multiple nodes all showing this
message:
Oct 25 04:30:57 rele406 kernel: ata5.01: qc timeout (cmd 0xa0)
Oct 25 04:30:57 rele406 kernel: ata5.01: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0
SErr 0x0 action 0x6 frozen
Oct 25 04:30:57 rele406 kernel: ata5.01: cmd
a0/00:00:00:00:00/00:00:00:00:00/b0 tag 0
Oct 25 04:30:57 rele406 kernel: cdb 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00
Oct 25 04:30:57 rele406 kernel: res
51/20:03:00:00:00/00:00:00:00:00/b0 Emask 0x5 (timeout)
Oct 25 04:30:57 rele406 kernel: ata5.01: status: { DRDY ERR }
Oct 25 04:31:02 rele406 kernel: ata5: link is slow to respond, please be
patient (ready=0)
Oct 25 04:31:07 rele406 kernel: ata5: device not ready (errno=-16),
forcing hardreset
Oct 25 04:31:07 rele406 kernel: ata5: soft resetting link
Oct 25 04:31:07 rele406 kernel: ata5.01: configured for UDMA/33
Oct 25 04:31:07 rele406 kernel: ata5: EH complete
Not quite the same thing, of course.. but hoping you can tell me
something about it.
All drives motheboards are same model. All are showing this error
message at seemingly random intervals.
I would have to find a copy of my old logs but I seem to remember this
issue on my old computer and the newer drives with the controller. I
bounced my head around this for ages.
I found an updated firmware driver for the controller, not official,
that improved the operation but didn't fix the error messages. I then
got a PCI SATA card that fixed the problem. My motherboard died a few
weeks later from capacitor rot.
I would check for a new firmware for the controller and see if that
fixes the problem. Note, my ASUS bios didn't update the firmware as it
was separate from the BIOS.
I did a quick search on the JMicron JMB361 and noticed that there were
many people having issues when this chip first came out. Some of the
problems seem to depended on the motherboard.
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Re: recovering mp3 files
Dave Stevens wrote: I have an external drive formatted ntfs that had some mp3 files that were erased by mistake. I've tried both foremost and scalpel to recover them but neither supports mp3 file format. Does anyone have a suggestion about a program that might work for this? Dave I cannot remember clearly but I believe that Foremost can find mp3 files by adding the correct headers/footers into the configuration file. You can configure the file to look for only one type of file. I found this out when I needed to recover some photos. My camera headers and footers were different than the default. It has been awhile since I used it. http://foremost.sourceforge.net/ -- Robin Laing -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Questionable Status
Tony Nelson wrote: On 09-10-01 09:09:40, Robin Laing wrote: Tony Nelson wrote: On 09-09-23 09:29:56, Gene Poole wrote: I've very recently upgraded 2 of my machines. One machine was Will the `smartctl -o on /dev/sdx` (for each sdx), fix the nonzero Reallocated_Event_Count issue on RAID arrays in a non-desctructive way? No. Nor for non-RAID either. It doesn't fix Reallocated_Event_Count -- rather, its purpose is to make Reallocated_Event_Count go up faster, in that as soon as a sector starts to go bad it will be reallocated if readable, and the sooner the more likely it is possible. A non-zero Reallocated_Event_Count is not a problem. Whatever says it is a problem is the real problem. Fix that instead. Non-zero Current_Pending_Sector is a problem, but RAID should be fixing that already. I don't know, but I think that enabling Automatic Offline Testing should cause any uncorrectable sectors to be noticed and fixed sooner by RAID. Do you have to use the /dev/sdx devices or the /dev/md devices? ... Automatic Offline Testing must be enabled on an actual ATA hard disk, so no fake disk such as dm or md. See `man smartctl`. With the changes, I was shocked to see the error message when I tried a live DVD on my laptop. It would be worthwhile to have a tool for testing and possibly fixing the problem in a non-destructive way for most users. I guess it is time for an RFE search. -- Robin Laing -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Advice for crossgrading from 32 bit F11 to x64 ?
Linuxguy123 wrote: On Tue, 2009-09-29 at 19:29 -0700, Kam Leo wrote: On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 7:20 PM, Linuxguy123 linuxguy...@gmail.com wrote: I do a lot of photo processing... things like generating 200 jpgs from raw files at one go. My laptop has 4GB of RAM but is currently only using 3GB because I am running a 32 bit kernel. uname -a Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.30.8-64.fc11.i586 #1 SMP Fri Sep 25 04:30:19 EDT 2009 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux Sooner or later I want to upgrade to a 64 bit kernel and 8 GB of RAM. Other than this article, I can't find any information on the subject. http://www.linux.com/archive/feature/123800 I am looking to do the upgrade WITHOUT reinstalling Fedora. I've done enough re installations in the past to know that I don't want to go there. Has anyone done crossgraded from 32 to 64 bit ? What advice do you have to offer ? Have you really done enough upgrades? I think not. If you did, you would know that the best advice is to back up your files and perform a clean install. No, that is NOT the best choice. I've re installed clean more than 4x and its a BIG pain setting things up again. I have a lot of software installed and not all of it is a simple yum command, ie custom versions of Eclipse, java, etc. Just like we shouldn't be telling everyone to do a 'yum clean all' when its not necessary, nor should we be telling people to reinstall. Going fully 64bit will require all these custom applications to be re-installed anyways. The configuration files should work though. Kill two things at once and wait until F12 comes out and then install it. Time wise, it could be quicker to do a clean install and re-configure than trying to clean the upgrade. I am now setting up a configuration directory that keeps a backup of all the locally configured files on my machine when I do an install or upgrade as an upgrade may toast the configuration files as well. -- Robin Laing -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Questionable Status
Tony Nelson wrote: On 09-09-23 09:29:56, Gene Poole wrote: I've very recently upgraded 2 of my machines. One machine was upgraded from Fedora 9 to Fedora 11, and the other machine was upgraded from Fedora 10 to Fedora 11. On machine 1 I have 2-hard disks (both Seagate's - 500 GB and 1000 GB), on machine 2 I have 1- hard disk (Western Digital 320 GB). All of the interfaces are SATA. The questionable status is that on machine 1 the 500 GB drive is showing as failing and on machine 2 the 20 GB drive is showing as failing. Neither drive, under the old releases, showed up as failing. How do I know that these drive are truly failing? 1) Wait. If the disk is going bad, it will fail. 2) Run as root `smartctl -A /dev/sdx` (for each sdx) and look at the WHEN_FAILED column; it will be - if not failed. 3) Run as root `smartctl -a /dev/sdx` (for each sdx) and look at the whole output. 4) Run as root `smartctl -t long /dev/sdx` (for each sdx) and wait until the time the test should finish, then view the results with `smartctl -l selftest /dev/sdx` (for each sdx) or `smartctl -a /dev/ sdx` (for each sdx). See `man smartctl`. Note that the new disk health monitoring tool palimpsest in package gnome-disk-utility is panicky and not to be trusted, unless you like buying lots of hard drives. It doesn't just look at WHEN_FAILED, but has its own criteria such as nonzero Reallocated_Event_Count, which is fairly normal for a modern drive that has been in use for a while. A nonzero Current_Pending_Sector or Offline_Uncorrectable are bad, as they mean data loss, though not general drive failure. I recommend enabling Automatic Offline Testing with `smartctl -o on /dev/sdx` (for each sdx), which will do a surface scan every few hours, giving the best chance to repair or recover any sectors that are going bad. Will the `smartctl -o on /dev/sdx` (for each sdx), fix the nonzero Reallocated_Event_Count issue on RAID arrays in a non-desctructive way? Do you have to use the /dev/sdx devices or the /dev/md devices? Good pointers in the mean time. -- Robin Laing -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: evolution to exchange server
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Thu, 2009-09-24 at 18:12 +1000, L wrote: On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 5:16 PM, Jussi Lehtola jussileht...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On Thu, 2009-09-24 at 16:58 +1000, L wrote: Hi, I am looking for information how to connect evolution to MS exchange mail server. The institute switched the mail server to MS exchange. The temporary solution is outlook on XP on VirtualBox, but this is not preferable. Any help is great. I think you need to install the exchange plugin with # yum install evolution-brutus -- Yes, I have this installed, How to configure it? evolution-brutus is only one of several ways of using Exchange with Evo. The MAPI plugin is another. I recommend taking this to the Evo list (http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list) poc I came across this some time back and it may help. http://www.openchange.org/ We are still on Exchange server 2003 so I can use http://www.saunalahti.fi/juhrauti/index.html POP and IMAP are turned off in my case. -- Robin Laing -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Going from ODF to MSOffice
Paul F. Johnson wrote: Hi, The powers that be want me off my nice clean and completely functional OS onto that pile of ik from MS and part of that is getting my stuff from ODF to Office (not sure if it's 2007 or 2003). I know that I can export as MS Office, or do a bulk import of MS Office to ODF via OOo, but can't do a bulk ODF to MS Office convert. Is there a way to do this? Don't mind if it need another package. Please don't say OOo is available for Win32 - I know it is, but the powers that want me on Office :-(. Anyone who says Office2007 SP2 can import ODF, please don't. It can't correct. It makes a mess of it! TTFN Paul -- It's only me, only me and no-one else. Install the MS Office ODF plugin from SUN. http://www.sun.com/software/star/odf_plugin/ And then put in a requrest for a course on learning how to use Microsoft Office, especially if it is 2007. Install OOo for Windows. -- Robin Laing -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Your system is too slow
Michael Hennebry wrote: On Tue, 22 Sep 2009, Michael Hennebry wrote: On Mon, 21 Sep 2009, Michael Hennebry wrote: On Sat, 19 Sep 2009, john wendel wrote: On 09/19/2009 07:17 AM, Michael Hennebry wrote: Eventually I did a cntrl-alt-F2 to get a console, logged in as root and did a yum erase kmod-nvidia-PAE . Rebooting still failed. On my next attempt, I picked the second option on the grub menu. This time, rebooting worked. Apparently, if I want a system that's not too slow and can play flash without mplayer hanging, I'll need to go back to F10. I certainly don't want to go through that mess again. Gawd I hate it when things just don't work. I have noticed that mplayer says this for almost all the videos that I play on F11. They play well on F10 and in VLC on F11. I am wondering if it is an mplayer fault and thus for discussion om rpmfusion's list. I do notice that in F11, my system disk access seams to just hang for a second in many different programs. It has really become an issue since I have started to stream video to my PS3. Thinking as I write this, I find that every time I run mplayer on my home machine (F11) the video doesn't start right away. Yet in F10, it starts right away using the same video. This is when mplayer will say that my system is to slow. The only difference between the machines is I am running RAID 1 at home. It is on my to-do list to look into this. -- Robin Laing -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Question on using a Joystick as a mouse in Fedora please?
Fernando Cassia wrote: On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 11:45 AM, Rick Sewill rsew...@gmail.com wrote: I have a question on using a Joystick as a mouse in Fedora. I wish to avoid getting carpal tunnel syndrome. I noticed, when I use regular mice, I have poor hand position. So far, my wrist is okay...but it gets red if I'm not careful. What you need is a TRACKBALL. A good, old-fashioned Trackball. I use one... the Kensington Expert Mouse 5.0 (don´t let words fool you, it´s a TRACKBALL). It uses a PS2 connection so no special drivers are needed. Find one on eBay... Your wrist moves very little -if at all- and you can move the ball with the tip of your fingers... http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/96/Trackball-Kensington-ExpertMouse5.jpg FC I know that I am late in this conversation but I have used this for years. I second the idea of a real track ball. http://us.kensington.com/html/2200.html I have one at work and one at home. It uses the fingers or palm of your hand. I have mine set to use three buttons but it can be programmed to use other features. The ring around the ball is the scroll wheel which is great. I have enough control to edit photo's or do drafting drawings. It comes with a wrist pad. The only issue is, if I get lazy, I will put my wrist in an odd angle. I have had to change the micro switches on the one at home. It gets used quite a lot by the whole family. I know someone that had issues with CTS and went for the thumb ball and ended up in worse shape. -- Robin Laing -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Help with Fedora Research
S.W. Bobcat wrote: Hummm the Fedora Community It is a shame that the Fedora Leadership does not listen to fedora Users. Fedora 9. 10, and 11 have been pieces of junk because the Fedora Leadership keeps foisting things not ready for prime time and making them the Default: Examples Fedora 9 the introduction of KDE 4.0 which was intended for DEVELOPERS ONLY, the in Fedora 11 the introduction of whatever it was that was known before hand NOT to work with GRUB. KDE 4.x is not just braely useable, and I was never able to get Fedora 11 to even install. The Fedora Community?!? When are you going to start listening to USERS?!? I am a loyal Fedora USER, and it is a shame that the Fedora Leadership seems unwilling to listen to the complaints of its USERS. I'm still ising Fedora 8 and I'm hoping that in Fedora 12 the Fedora Leadership will have at long last started listening to its USERS. If Fedora 12 is another overhyped piece of garbage long on promises and short on delivery, I think that I'll simply start using CentOS. My message to the Fedora Leadership: FIX THE STUFF ALRADY IN FEDORA AND MAKE SURE IT WORKS BEFORE ADDING NEW HALF BAKED SOFTWARE. R.H. Ruskin, Ph.D. 'I am the Cat who walks by himself, and all places are alike to me. -- Rudyard Kipling Ah, Rudyard Kipling, called our city the city with All hell for a basement. I use Fedora at home and work with very few problems. At home I came a across a major headache last night that I submitted a bug report on. I do agree that many bugs just seem to get ignored but some of them are outside the mandate of the Fedora team such as KDE 4 issues. Others are, I feel personal as Moto4Lin not using the latest SVN as other packages do. For reliability, I find that Fedora 11 (at home) is quite stable and F10 (at work) only get rebooted when there is a kernel update. I do fear that it is getting bloated more like Windows though. Fedora is more bleeding edge and if you want to stick with older software, then go with Centos as has been advised over the years. It is your choice. -- Robin Laing -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora 11 and moto4lin
Paul Erickson wrote: Is anyone successfully using moto4lin with Fedora 11? I am having getting my Razor to connect. I can see from the changes in /dev when I plug and unplug the phone that the machine is seeing something, but using the device names that come up after plugging the phone in does not connect. Any help would be appreciated. If your getting a dev created in /dev/, then you have to possbly modify the moto4lin to use that device. I also had to change one of the ID's in the preferences to get it to work. You may also find that you have to run as root, depending on permissions. On my phone, the moto4lin that is supplied by Fedora won't work but the SVN and compile does work. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=426667 -- Robin Laing -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Question on shredding a terebyte drive
Dean S. Messing wrote: Thanks to all for the replies. I'll answer most of the comments here. 0) The disk is unmounted. 1) The drive is (was) a backup drive with a great deal of sensitive corporate laboratory research data and algorithms on it. The monitary loss of the data being stolen would be significant though it's hard to put a $$ value on it. More importantly, I'm following corporate policy. This is the most problematic issue. Corporate policies that were written when drive sectors were visible with a home microscope. That said, I would go with the dd recommendations, 25 times. Also, the -v option will slow the progress due to screen writes. I have seen this in the past. And, if the drive is mounted as ext3, then the data may not get erased as expected. See the man page on shred. CAUTION: Note that shred relies on a very important assumption: that the file system overwrites data in place. This is the tra- ditional way to do things, but many modern file system designs do not satisfy this assumption. The following are examples of file systems on which shred is not effective, or is not guaran- teed to be effective in all file system modes: ... Again, dd gets around this. As for the comments on the secure erase features of drives. A quick google search came up with: http://ata.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/ATA_Secure_Erase Which shows how to use hdparm. http://advosys.ca/viewpoints/2006/07/hard-drive-secure-erase/ Which is a very interesting article and this is really important. We tried the secure erase utility on multiple old ATA drives and every one manufactured since 2000 supported the Security Erase command (the utility tells you if the drive does not). Drives older than 2000 don’t have the command so if you need to wipe very old drives, a software wipe is the best you can do. Maybe run the secure erase 25 times. -- Robin Laing -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: RAID 1 error question - boot problem.
Bill Davidsen wrote: Robin Laing wrote: Hello, I am trying to help someone get a system to reboot after a system issue.He is not the builder of the system and the person that knows the system is away for a few weeks. Great timing. :) It is Fedora 10. Two drives, two partitions each drive which one is a mirror. /dev/sda is partitioned as /boot and / which is mirror 1. /dev/sdb is partitioned as swap and / The system wouldn't restart on the reboot and came up with an error after creating the raid arrays and then saying that it cannot find /dev/md0. I don't have the exact error message right now. Using an Ubuntu disk (persons personal preference) the system was booted into a live system and using gparted the partitions were shown to be as above with as I see it, one error. /dev/sda1 ext3 boot /dev/sda2 ext3 / raid /dev/sdb1 Swap /dev/sdb2 Unknown / raid Running mdadm /dev/sdb2 --examine shows that the partition superblock is showing RAID 1 and that it is clean. As this is a critical system, it is a priority and is being used as a virtual server. With only the second drive installed, we tried to run fsck.ext3 on the /dev/sda2 (normally b2) with no success. We also tried /dev/md0 as Ubuntu has created the /dev/md0 from the single drive. The user has not tried to boot with only the one drive in yet. He is making a copy of the drive on a different system. Now, the question. On booting from a mirror 1 array, if there is a problem with the raid system, how does the boot process read the mdadm.conf file when it is on the RAID array that needs to be created? Is there some data that is stored in the /boot or someplace else that has the necessary info to tell the system how to build the array? Is it part of the /boot/grub/device.map or /boot/System.map* ? Any suggestions to where to start? The linux-raid group would have been a better choice, but this is a simple question. The mdadm.conf file should get put in the initrd file, which is in the /boot partition, which you didn't mirror for some reason. I'm guessing that sda2 is a better place to start, since that's recognizable as an ext3 partition. Having a partition identify as Unknown is usually not a good thing. I would mount that partition and copy the contents to a secure backup if this is critical. I don't have the exact error message right now doesn't help, I suggest backing up sda2, and sda1 if you can, noting the error message, and post back. Without more information I am guessing that the sdb2 partition is in some way hosed, do NOT run fsck on sda2 before backing up, and run with the -n option to see what condition the f/s is in. I doubt you've lost your data yet, don't do anything which would change that. Thank you for the information. This was complicated as I was helping an admin (ubuntu user) that had never worked with md and was filling in for the admin that created the system. I have had my share of md issues between various versions of Fedora over the years. He had already started trying to fix the system before I even heard about the problem. Part of the reason I didn't have the answers. As it turned out, there were two problems, one on each drive. We got the system up and running before there was any response to my query. We wanted to understand more things about the md operation, especially on booting with md arrays and using the /boot partition. You confirmed my suspicion that the superblock was the key. -- Robin Laing -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: e2fsck -y wipe all my data
I have been away on leave but I thought I would comment. yordy wrote: Hi I have a HD connected as USB device and cause for electrical problems in my home, my disk go off unexpectedly more than one time some weeks ago, a few days ago I can't mount neither of my linux partitions on that disk. If you have electrical problems, get a UPS. Also, check the drive the next time you plug it in. Any idea why is this? Or how can I restore all the data pre existing in that partition? Greetings You may have to run some forensic's type software (Foremost) to recover your files. I had an issue where my fingers deleted (Slap fingers again and again) a whole partition of data. I did recover about 20% of the data which was better than I expected. The partition was part of a RAID and LVM array and I only had one of the two drives from the LVM. If you haven't, don't use the drive yet. Also, there are some ways to undelete ext2 files but it isn't from what I have heard. Good luck. -- Robin Laing -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
RAID 1 error question - boot problem.
Hello, I am trying to help someone get a system to reboot after a system issue. He is not the builder of the system and the person that knows the system is away for a few weeks. Great timing. :) It is Fedora 10. Two drives, two partitions each drive which one is a mirror. /dev/sda is partitioned as /boot and / which is mirror 1. /dev/sdb is partitioned as swap and / The system wouldn't restart on the reboot and came up with an error after creating the raid arrays and then saying that it cannot find /dev/md0. I don't have the exact error message right now. Using an Ubuntu disk (persons personal preference) the system was booted into a live system and using gparted the partitions were shown to be as above with as I see it, one error. /dev/sda1 ext3 boot /dev/sda2 ext3 / raid /dev/sdb1 Swap /dev/sdb2 Unknown / raid Running mdadm /dev/sdb2 --examine shows that the partition superblock is showing RAID 1 and that it is clean. As this is a critical system, it is a priority and is being used as a virtual server. With only the second drive installed, we tried to run fsck.ext3 on the /dev/sda2 (normally b2) with no success. We also tried /dev/md0 as Ubuntu has created the /dev/md0 from the single drive. The user has not tried to boot with only the one drive in yet. He is making a copy of the drive on a different system. Now, the question. On booting from a mirror 1 array, if there is a problem with the raid system, how does the boot process read the mdadm.conf file when it is on the RAID array that needs to be created? Is there some data that is stored in the /boot or someplace else that has the necessary info to tell the system how to build the array? Is it part of the /boot/grub/device.map or /boot/System.map* ? Any suggestions to where to start? Thank you. -- Robin Laing -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F11: Blender and the i915 driver
Marco Guazzone wrote: On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 5:10 PM, Marco Guazzonemarco.guazz...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 4:57 PM, Robin Laingrobin.la...@drdc-rddc.gc.ca wrote: cut -- After the reboot, look inside /var/log/messages (you need root privileges) Then, move to the end of file And search backward for end trace. This line mark the end of the trace. For the beginning line, search backward for cut here Note, if no line is found it is possible your lines are in an already rotated files (e.g., /var/log/messages-20090712). Also, make sure the found trace is the one related to the VLC crash. To do so, look inside the trace and search for something related to VLC. For instance, in my last trace there was a line containing blender: Jul 14 11:33:06 feedback kernel: Pid: 9149, comm: blender.bin Not tainted 2.6.29.5-191.fc11.x86_64 #1 Latitude D830 Cheers! -- Marco I have looked in the logs before but that was under F10. I will have to check that out when I get home. Hopefully it won't lock up but if it does I will try. -- Robin Laing -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F11: Blender and the i915 driver
Marco Guazzone wrote: On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 7:08 PM, Petrus de Hi! Sorry for the delay. I've tried to use nomodeset but the problem remains even if this time only the screen and the keyboard frozen, not the mouse. Furhter, the blender window remained transparent, while without nomodeset it remains completely grey. Anyway, I had to reboot since there was no way to interact with the system Here below is the trace: This issue isn't just with this driver. I have had it happen with the nvidia (rpmfusion) driver and VLC. Could you please tell me how did you get the trace once the system locked up? -- Robin Laing -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: One or more disks are failing ?
I am also seeing this on drives that are only a few months old. I was having system crashes so I wouldn't be surprised about the need to re-allocate blocks. Now the question that I pose is, how do get these blocks allocated/moved that is safe for data on the drives? What is the best method to get these blocks allocated? Can badblocks be used? -- Robin Laing -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: any known working USB/serial converters?
Konstantin Svist wrote: http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.2537 This one works perfectly for me. The only downside is that shipping takes a week or two. But there are so many other cool toys that you can order as well at the same time. :) -- Robin Laing -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: the inevitable flash question :-).
Tom Horsley wrote: On Thu, 11 Jun 2009 11:23:50 -0700 Suvayu Ali wrote: IMHO its too much pain to have multi-libs. If nothing else, it increases the download size of updates. 64bit flash has never given me any problems even though its beta. My previous experience with 32bit flash was not as smooth. I would love to use the 64 bit flash, but adobe doesn't have a 64 bit repo setup yet as near as I can tell, so I'd have to keep manually polling for updates. With the adobe repo and 32 bit flash, I get updates for it and everything else with a simple yum update. Maybe when it gets out of beta they'll have a 64 bit repo setup... I have run the 64 bit flash at work since it came out. At home I just set up a 64 bit machine and the file is months old. No real reason to keep polling for new updates all the time. I would look at using it as it seems very solid. -- Robin Laing -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: it's the 64-bit flash plugin that's crippling firefox
Robert P. J. Day wrote: On Fri, 12 Jun 2009, Jussi Lehtola wrote: On Thu, 2009-06-11 at 17:18 -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote: thoughts? with that plugin installed, firefox immediately starts sucking up CPU even when i'm not playing anything. it looks like there simply has to be a flash embedded in a displayed page for this to happen. That's no news. Macromedia (now Adobe) is good at making bull***t that eats away your CPU. Installing flashblocker should do the trick - it only loads the flash plugin if you click on the flash item. yes! that did the trick. i'm surprised no one had suggested that until now, since the topic of flash had come up more than once. yee ha. i have response. rday -- It has been suggested in the past, probably not to a recent thread though. -- Robin Laing -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Linux first to support USB 3.0...
Christopher A. Williams wrote: According to this article from Neowin.net, Linux is going to be the first OS to support the new USB 3.0 standard. http://www.neowin.net/news/main/09/06/11/linux-is-first-os-to-support-usb-30 Any chance we'll see a backport to Fedora at some point? Cheers, Chris -- You have usb 3.0 ports and devices? USB 3.0 has a different port design and requirements of usb 2.x http://www.interfacebus.com/usb-cable-diagram-30.html 9 conductors plus shield. -- Robin Laing -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: OT: Can Reformatting A Hard Drive To ext3 Destroy All the Data On It?
Rick Stevens wrote: Henrik Schmiediche wrote: Check out: http://www.dban.org - Henrik From: fedora-list-boun...@redhat.com [mailto:fedora-list-boun...@redhat.com] On Behalf Of Fernando Cassia Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 2:51 PM To: Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora. Subject: Re: OT: Can Reformatting A Hard Drive To ext3 Destroy All the Data On It? On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 6:00 PM, Mike McCarty mike.mcca...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Robert L Cochran wrote: I have a hard drive that I need to destroy the data on. What is the most dependable way to do this? Can reformatting the drive as ext3 or ext4 or some other filesystem effectively destroy the existing data? Is there free software that can write zeroes or some form of nonsense to every storage location? shred (man shred) will do it. dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda would do it. Not that none of these guarantee that a disk will be unreadable. Not even commercial programs. No matter how many times you rewrite the media, someone with equipment sophisticated enough may be able to read the data. The only way to ensure that a drive is unreadable is to physically destroy the platters. Scraping off the magnetic coating into a fine dust is probably the best...it would be possible, given enough time, to reconstruct a shattered platter. But the point is how much does someone want to spend to recover the data. If you don't have state secrets where noone else has backups, then I really doubt anyone will invest the time and money to recover the data. There was a challenge put out to recover data that was erased with dd but no takers. The comment that I read on the web site pointed to a phone call that dd makes it to costly to recover. -- Robin Laing -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: the inevitable flash question :-).
Tom Horsley wrote: I have nspluginwrapper.i586 installed, which allows the 32 bit flash plugin to run in 64 bit firefox on my new fedora 11. I can see the flash content on adobe's flash test page just fine, but I never get any sound from flash apps. I know there have been a zillion flash sound problems, but I never encountered them till just now on fedora 11. (This same combo works fine for me on fedora 10). I wasn't getting any sound before I removed pulseaudio and I'm still not getting sound after removing it. I have the latest flash-plugin from adobe's yum repo. If I try to play cnn video it just hangs saying Loading... Should I just forget the adobe repo and go with the beta 64 bit plugin and manual install? I have been using the 64 bit flash since it was released. It has worked great since day one. Of course I only load flash as required. -- Robin Laing -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora 10 and plotters? - OT
Kevin Kempter wrote: Hi All; I'm a database consultant so I'm forever printing large database models onto 25 sheets of letter sized paper and taping them together - tiresome. I've found a used plotter, an HP DesignJet 750C - a 36 color plotter with automatic roll feed and cutter. I walked thru part of the cups add printer setup and the 750c is listed as an option in the printer list. I'm wondering if anyone out there has any experience running an HP plotter via Linux, are there any gotcha's? do I have to tweak anything to tell the printer (and Linux) that I'm printing to 36 paper as opposed to 24? Will the automatic roll feed and cutter just work? etc.. Thanks in advance... I have used a large format hp 1050c printer and it is classified as a plotter by some. It is used via cups as it is a different building. Maybe you can find a large format printer to meet your requirements. -- Robin Laing -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Packet Manager
davide wrote: Il Mon, 08 Jun 2009 12:51:33 -0600, Kevin Kempter ha scritto: On Monday 08 June 2009 12:26:01 davide wrote: Hi, I was looking in the interweb for a packet manager for fedora, something very cool and fast. I tried yum and it is very very cool, but has fedora something like aptitude? I mean with aptitude I have an ncurses interface from which I can see all the packages Installed Uninstalled, Upgradeable and so on. Thanks a lot. Have a look at yumex Kevin, Mick thank you for the answer. Is there an option for command line? Just to be sure if something go wrong I can manage things from console. by the way Yumex seems very very good. I use yumex for GUI. For CLI, use yum and different tools. That is what yum is. It is a CLI package manager. I use it for remote updates. Look at man yum to know the full details of the power. Of course once you add in plugins, you now have a more powerful CLI manager. Much more powerful than yumex is. -- Robin Laing -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: nforce 2 nic drivers on a7n8x
Matthew Rockwell wrote: I am a newbie at linux so I am trying to learn. I have used fedora 7,8 and 9 and have been able to connect to the internet no problem but now i have 10 and I cant get it to start up. looking through the drivers I see no driver for my nforce 2 nvidia nic and need some help how to get it and install it so its running. my mobo is a a7n8x asus I have the deluxe version of this board at home. My F10 install worked other than the fact the network starts at login with Network Manager. This is different than the previous versions. I disabled network manager and went back to the default networking. There is a bug in the original config-network app that screws up the network config files. If you are looking for the drivers during boot, you won't see anything. -- Robin Laing -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Blocking an IP for one user
Nifty Fedora Mitch wrote: On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 05:53:19PM +0100, Paul wrote: Hi, My son is getting to that funny age whereby I need to keep certain sites away from him. Is there any way that I can block an IP address or certain keywords from his user settings so that it doesn't matter which browser he uses, he can't access them? For example, I want to block the BBC websites wholesale or anything with the words Microsoft, MSN or Hotmail in the URL - you get the idea - but also an IP range such as 172.168.*.* In the US most ISPs have parental tools that filter use those if you have them in the UK. Some home network boxes have tools. The best strategy is to block the entire family including yourself. Squid or another proxy tool is the foundation of more filters. However children are clever. Nothing will keep them out when they want in. Kids have their own code words for 'stuff' and keep changing them... I just read an article that Microsofts new Bing search engine will show preview videos of porn. I guess you can Bing to the block. I would look at the proxy issue and route the computer through a firewall/desktop server. Most desktops now come with two ports. A bit of wiring and home free. Block the mac address at the router/firewall to it will only work through the proxy/firewall. It takes some time to learn the firewall rules but the proxy may make it easier. I feel it is better to train your children and trust them. If they cannot feel free to discuss these issues at home, they will find it someplace else. Have fun being a parent. I know that I am. -- Robin Laing -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: WSJ - Article on Linux netbooks
Alan Cox wrote: O is done by the host computer. There are things the printer can do that will break the printer. We are talking about things like how long to heat the little wire to flash-steam the ink etc. Do it for too long and you damage the wire. On the mickysoft driver, this is all buried in a binary blob and while folks could in theory binary edit it, they won't for the most part. In the OSS world, if they released sources, that You honestly think the bad guys wouldn't just sniff the wire, disassemble the driver and write printer exploding worms given the chance. almost certainly wouldn't be as true. This puts Lexmark in a very bad position. If they open it up they would need to figure out a way to tell if a modified driver caused damage and not cover that damage under warranty repairs. I don't doubt that the printer control is done from the PC end, but I'd be suprised if Lexmark were dumb enough to just trust the PC commands. You don't DRM your toner cartridges and then act careless on the rest surely. I'd have thought they'd have DRM on the driver interface too ! Linux actually supports a fair number of dumb printers, usually by rasterising with ghostscript and then driving the rasteriser through some custom printer driver. And printers are one area where the what to buy data is really quite good: http://www.linuxfoundation.org/en/OpenPrinting Alan I have owned Lexmark, Epson and HP. I purchased a Lexmark when they had Linux drivers on their site. It worked okay but never great and not all the features. More issues with ink and heads. Same issues that my Windows friends had. Lexmark is now in the same levels as Microsoft for quality. My Epson printers were great until one got into a weird state that I couldn't even talk to a support number without a credit card, even to ask where the local repair center was. Printer became trash before I was off the phone. HP has been great. I just purchased an all-in-one to replace an HP printer that needs new heads ($100) and I hooked it up using wireless network. Opened HPLIP and it found the printer, set it up and all worked as expected. Scanning and printing were perfect. We use HP and Xerox at work and I would love to get a Xerox Phaser for home but that is out of my price range. :) I am getting a netbook or notebook for my daughter this summer and I am looking at what is going to be supplied with Linux out of the box. This may be something to look at. http://www.alwaysinnovating.com/touchbook/ I doubt Fedora will run on it though. Lack of KDE would be a problem for me. :) -- Robin Laing -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: What software is missing in the Fedora repository?
Tom Horsley wrote: On Thu, 28 May 2009 12:52:23 +0200 Simon Wesp wrote: The problem is (for me) that it is definitly pornographic, because it helps you to get this stuff. You know that a instigator for a murder is guilty like the murderer himself! so this is for me forbidden and should not be allowed in fedora. Shouldn't you remove all bittorrent clients then :-). All usenet clients, email, web browsers, ftp, ethernet and wireless access network access ... This is a question of morals, not legal. -- Robin Laing -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: incomplete shutdown
Thufir wrote: I recently installed Fedora 10, however the system says that it's shutdown completely but the power doesn't go off, I have to flip the swithc in the back to turn it off. I've run into restart not restarting, and having to hit the restart switch before, but an incomplete shutdown's more of a hassle. If it helps, here's the hardware: [thu...@arrakis ~]$ [thu...@arrakis ~]$ lspci 00:00.0 Host bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 661FX/M661FX/M661MX Host (rev 11) 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS AGP Port (virtual PCI-to-PCI bridge) 00:02.0 ISA bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS964 [MuTIOL Media IO] (rev 36) 00:02.5 IDE interface: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 5513 [IDE] (rev 01) 00:02.7 Multimedia audio controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] AC'97 Sound Controller (rev a0) 00:03.0 USB Controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] USB 1.1 Controller (rev 0f) 00:03.1 USB Controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] USB 1.1 Controller (rev 0f) 00:03.2 USB Controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] USB 1.1 Controller (rev 0f) 00:03.3 USB Controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] USB 2.0 Controller 00:04.0 Ethernet controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS900 PCI Fast Ethernet (rev 91) 00:05.0 IDE interface: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] RAID bus controller 180 SATA/PATA [SiS] (rev 01) 00:09.0 Ethernet controller: D-Link System Inc RTL8139 Ethernet (rev 10) 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 661/741/760 PCI/AGP or 662/761Gx PCIE VGA Display Adapter [thu...@arrakis ~]$ thanks, Thufir I would check the BIOS settings. I have had this happen in the past. Make sure that your BIOS is up-to-date. -- Robin Laing -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: help
Jonathan Dieter wrote: On Wed, 2009-05-27 at 12:58 +0530, B SUDHIR wrote: Hi I'm using fedora core 5 i'm not able to install mozilla firefox tarball to get latest version,Unable to play movies in totem media player it's showing error that it needs a decoder,unable to use openoffice it says it needs jre even though i installed it help me i can't use earlier versions because i have less graphics memory You *really* need to upgrade to at *least* Fedora 9, though you'd be better off going with 10, or wait a few days until Fedora 11 comes out. Fedora Core 5 is no longer supported, and hasn't been for a couple of years. Jonathan I will agree with Jonathan on this. I have read that F11 will run better than F10 on older hardware. Heck, it is becoming the default OS for the OLPC. :) There are also the security issues. The one reason you may not be able to get Firefox to install is due to libraries that are outdated in FC5. What are your graphics specifications/issues? Most video drivers are better in the later versions of Fedora. -- Robin Laing -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: empty disc undeer f11/f10
Christoph Höger wrote: Hi folks, something strange happened today. I got an _important_ cd and simply wanted to copy the data from it. My kernel thinks its empty (this disc doesn't ...). But under Vista I can read the data. Is that some kind of windows magic? Unfinished disc or stuff or did I encounter a bug? regards christoph Possible mulitsession disk that wasn't created properly. I have had that happened in the past. Check to see how much blank space there is. The session may not have been closed properly. http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/multisession-dvd-is-there-a-solution-578418/ This may be useful. http://www.theblackpawn.com/step-by-step-tutorial-to-burn-a-multisession-cd-in-linux.php -- Robin Laing -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: NVIDIA Quadro NVS 160M
Steve Searle wrote: Around 08:29pm on Friday, May 22, 2009 (UK time), Mike Cloaked scrawled: So imagine that there is a newbie Linux user starting to read this list and he/she just happens to own one single machine that just happens to have an Nvidia graphics card - are you suggesting that people on this list tell this new user to go away and buy a better machine with the appropriate hardware, simply because Fedora default install does not support his/her graphics card. C'mon now - be reasonable! He/she will likely go look for another Linux distro! A newbie Linux user is probably better off starting with a different distro, and moving onto Fedora once they have some experience and believe it meets their needs better. Steve I agree with this and normally don't give anyone a copy of Fedora. But I feel that it isn't good for Linux as a whole to put down any hardware choices. The problem here is copyrights and patent issues. Attack the government, not users. I find that my nVidia works great, most of the time with the closed source driver, but I cannot get any xorg or kernel support because I need 3D. I have to go with what hardware is available when needed. So Kevin, what would you suggest for upgrades or new purchases? I have had issues with Fedora using nVidia, ATI and Intel over the years so I don't know what I would suggest for someone that needs a good 3D graphics card. No different that some of my Windows only friends. -- Robin Laing -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: mounting encrypted linux partition on windows
Damián Rodríguez Sánchez wrote: That's an interesting idea. Maybe not just character coding, but also keyboard setup: I have a brazilian portuguese keyboard that's working fine under Windows and Linux graphic mode, but quite possibly being used as a standard US keyboard outside X, which is where I enter my password before starting Fedora. I'll have a look at that, since I use some non alphanumerical characters in my password. Damian. Robin Laing escreveu: Damián Rodríguez Sánchez wrote: Robin Laing escreveu: Damián Rodríguez Sánchez wrote: I recently decided to encrypt the / Linux partition (ext3) on my dual boot PC (Windows Vista - Fedora 10). I used to mount it with Ext2 Installable File System for Windows (http://www.fs-driver.org) when using Windows, but now that the partition is encrypted, its contents (obviously) appear unreadable and I'm offered to format it. I was told that software like FreeOTFE and TrueCrypt should let me mount the encrypted partition under Windows if I have the ext3 driver, but it didn't work for me. Will I necessarily have to create a new encrypted volume with one of those programs and then reinstall Fedora (or Windows) in it instead of simply mounting the existing encrypted partition? I have this bookmarked but I have not tried it as I do not have any windows computers to try it with. It was a Just in case. Mounting LUKS / dm-crypt Partitions in Microsoft Windows http://blog.yibble.org/2009/01/29/mounting-luks-dm-crypt-partitions-in-microsoft-windows/ Full procedure to use Ext2fsd and FreeOTFE. Thank you, but that's exactly what I had done and it kept saying my key was incorrect. I'll have a better look at my Luks configurations. I wonder if your having an issue in character coding between Windows and Linux. Try setting a second key that is basic for testing and see if it works. You can delete it later. luksAddKey luksRemoveKey or luksKillSlot That's an interesting idea. Maybe not just character coding, but also keyboard setup: I have a brazilian portuguese keyboard that's working fine under Windows and Linux graphic mode, but quite possibly being used as a standard US keyboard outside X, which is where I enter my password before starting Fedora. I'll have a look at that, since I use some non alphanumerical characters in my password. Damian. Hope I pointed you in the right direction. Let us know how it goes. -- Robin Laing -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: mounting encrypted linux partition on windows
Damián Rodríguez Sánchez wrote: I recently decided to encrypt the / Linux partition (ext3) on my dual boot PC (Windows Vista - Fedora 10). I used to mount it with Ext2 Installable File System for Windows (http://www.fs-driver.org) when using Windows, but now that the partition is encrypted, its contents (obviously) appear unreadable and I'm offered to format it. I was told that software like FreeOTFE and TrueCrypt should let me mount the encrypted partition under Windows if I have the ext3 driver, but it didn't work for me. Will I necessarily have to create a new encrypted volume with one of those programs and then reinstall Fedora (or Windows) in it instead of simply mounting the existing encrypted partition? I have this bookmarked but I have not tried it as I do not have any windows computers to try it with. It was a Just in case. Mounting LUKS / dm-crypt Partitions in Microsoft Windows http://blog.yibble.org/2009/01/29/mounting-luks-dm-crypt-partitions-in-microsoft-windows/ Full procedure to use Ext2fsd and FreeOTFE. -- Robin Laing -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: What software is missing in the Fedora repository?
Rahul Sundaram wrote: Hi, I am doing a quick survey for software that you use on a regular basis that is not available via the Fedora repository. Software that you suggest should be free and open source, free of patent and other legal issues. Tell me the home page of the software and give me a brief description on what it does. Bonus points if you can see in Google for software-name fedora package review to figure it if it is already in the Fedora package review queue. If you know of RPM packages in other distributions for the software your are suggesting, that information is useful as well. Rahul I have one that is preventing me from upgrading my wife's and daughters computers. kxstitch. http://kxstitch.sourceforge.net/ I have been in contact with the author about updating the software but I cannot build it on F10. Not enough experience yet on my part. My other issue is there are packages within Fedora that are based on older release candidates that have updated development (SVN/CVS/GIT)versions but not release versions. One it the Motorola Phone package. Moto4lin http://sourceforge.net/projects/moto4lin https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?query_format=specificorder=relevance+descbug_status=__all__product=Fedoracontent=Moto4lin Here is a product that is not maintained but the SVN has been updated multiple times to fix minor problems and add the number of phones supported but as the Fedora maintainer states, until an official release is out, forget it. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=426667 I feel that this is a diservice to Fedora users. The best way of answering this is to look at the software packages available for Ubuntu and cross reference. The responses on this list are going to be those that subscribe to this list. The users that don't subscribe but try Fedora and drop it due to missing package will never comment. -- Robin Laing -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Blinking lights of death ? Netgear Switch GS108
David Liguori wrote: Aldo Foot wrote: On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 7:23 PM, Robert L Cochran cochr...@speakeasy.net wrote: One of the more common mechanisms for failure of electrolytic capacitors is too high an ambient temperature over a period of time. Usually the temperature rating is on the cap. You say the room is well-ventilated but that doesn't rule out too high an ambient temperature in a room full of equipment, especially if it was sitting on top of or in a rack full of other equipment. It's more likely to have open rather than short circuited. An ESR (effective series resistance) meter will tell. If you're pretty sure the capacitor is what's ailing it and it's through-hole rather than surface mounted, I would consider it well worth fixing, or even trying if there's greater than a 10% success probability. Many 8-port switches aren't worth fixing below that. Another issue is using capacitors that are close to the operating voltage of the system. 12V and use 15V capacitors. This doesn't give any overhead for voltage spikes or surges caused by charging and discharging circuits. Remember that many circuit boards are multi-layer now so be careful if you are working with a thru-hole circuit board. Have fun. -- Robin Laing -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: nVidia vs. ATI graphics card for fedora
Kevin J. Cummings wrote: Jack Howarth wrote: I haven't seen this issue mentioned yet, but ATI has just depreciated all hardware older than the HD series of cards as of the 9.3 release... http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/legacy/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx?type=2.4.1product=2.4.1.3.9lang=English This means 9.4 and beyond will no longer promise support for these cards (although it may still work for a short while). I should have saw this coming when I couldn't get 9.2 or 9.3 to produce video on my X1650 under x86_64 Fedora 10. Oh, I love it, my 2 year old laptop now has a deprecated video card (you *did* mean deprecated, didn't you?) How do you buy a new video card for your laptop? Its not as easy as for your desktop This is just another attempt by ATI to sell more (current) hardware. We are all stuck with the free drivers now. Which are not as good as the current proprietary drivers in *every* feature supported. If I want 3D and video and GL, the open drivers don't do all 3 just yet (do they?) The last time I tried them they didn't. Jack nVidia did this and you can still get the old proprietary driver as an RPM when a new kernel comes out so it isn't a big problem. I have had this happen in the past with ATI and Xfree when they dropped support for the Mach 64 cards. Now that was not pleasant. So, they should still be useable for a few more years. Getting a new video card for a desktop can be problematic as well if you are stuck with an older AGP port. -- Robin Laing -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How To Send Files Securely From Fedora
Robert L Cochran wrote: I want to send files securely from my Fedora 11 (Preview) or Fedora 10 systems to a Microsoft Windows (Home Edition) user who quickly gets lost if asked to do anything complex. By securely sending files, I mean I wish to attach files to an email and then send them over the wire either encrypted or password protected such that there is little possibility of anyone but the intended recipient being able to see the files in clear. I would also like the user to be able to send files back to me which are similarly secured. The user likes Windows Live Mail. I do not think the user capable of managing public keys or of understanding how to decrypt public-key based files unless it can be done with one or two mouse clicks. I could do the initial setup and testing myself. Everything has to be geared to allowing a quite basic user to view the cleartext quickly and very simply, without others on the Internet being able to crack it. I've thought of sending password-protected zip files using the Fedora zip utility. Perhaps these are compatible with the same utility in Windows XP? Any suggestions? Bob You don't say what types of files. Rar/par and WinRar are another option. The encryption is better than zip and from what I read easy to use, at least on Windows. If the files are just documents, then I would use OpenOffice and use the encryption within it. Enigma mail as suggested is an easy option. -- Robin Laing -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Blinking lights of death ? Netgear Switch GS108
g wrote: Robert L Cochran wrote: On 04/30/2009 02:47 PM, Aldo Foot wrote: snip The unit has a blown capacitor, bulged and brown matter around it. Also there is snip You probably have Chinese- or Taiwanese-manufactured capacitors in that unit, which are not as reliable as Japanese-manufactured capacitors. If you search the net you will find lists of known-unreliable capacitor manufacturers. robert, aldo, if you run a google search for 'bad caps' or 'bad capacitors', you will find a large hit score. most of hits will relate to a stolen recipe for capacitors that was missing all ingredients. it is primarily in asian countries and mainly lower level companies. this hit mainly with mainboards and power supplies, along with other hardware that use low cost capacitors. this problems has pretty well ended, but when you make repair, do use a high quality brand. radio shack does not fall with in high quality definition. order from a local supplier, or a well know catalog supplier. small adds in back of electronic magazines do not qualify. also, be sure you check diodes as caps are known to take them out also. when you clean board, be sure you get all of crud off board and hope that no hidden corrosion has started. yes. i am a 'hardware head' and i have seen this problem, even with an abit mainboard of my own. much luck. I just had a Dell computer fail due to capacitor issues. I use DigiKey for my parts as they are fast and reasonable. They don't carry all types of parts though. As for spending the money and time to fix a low cost switch is not worth it except for experience. Search the net for electronic tutorials. There are many. Also look in the second hand stores for home electronic kits. I found one for my daughter that uses springs to join the wires. Teaches basic electronics without all the hassle of getting parts. There are simulator circuits available and they are getting easier to use. Fedora 11 will have a software group for electronics. :) I purchased a Nerdkit for learning about microcontrollers. Not a bad investment. -- Robin Laing -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: nVidia vs. ATI graphics card for fedora
Kevin Kofler wrote: Tom Horsley wrote: Especially if you install the akmod packages, so it can build the module from source if the updated binary isn't yet in the repo mirror. Which is a horribly ugly solution. Fedora is not Gentoo. If you use standard prebuilt kmods, you still need to be careful with kernel upgrades. Kevin Kofler But AKMOD is a great way of getting the latest security updates into the system without waiting for a module to be produced. I like the idea of dkms akmod as it can make life easier. -- Robin Laing -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Seagate disk problems (NCQ bug???)
Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote:
After running flawlessly for 6+ months I just had my Seagate
ST31500343AS (w. SD35 firmware) flake out. Does this look like the NCQ
bug or just a random event? The final error msg was around the time the
machine hung hard.
Apr 28 06:41:26 arbol kernel: ata1: exception Emask 0x10 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x90200
action 0xe frozen
Apr 28 06:41:26 arbol kernel: ata1: irq_stat 0x0040, PHY RDY changed
Apr 28 06:41:26 arbol kernel: ata1: SError: { Persist PHYRdyChg 10B8B }
Apr 28 06:41:26 arbol kernel: ata1: hard resetting link
Apr 28 06:41:28 arbol kernel: ata1: SATA link up 1.5 Gbps (SStatus 113 SControl
310)
Apr 28 06:41:33 arbol kernel: ata1.00: qc timeout (cmd 0xec)
Apr 28 06:41:33 arbol kernel: ata1.00: failed to IDENTIFY (I/O error,
err_mask=0x4)
Apr 28 06:41:33 arbol kernel: ata1.00: revalidation failed (errno=-5)
Apr 28 06:41:33 arbol kernel: ata1: hard resetting link
Apr 28 06:41:34 arbol kernel: ata1: SATA link up 1.5 Gbps (SStatus 113 SControl
310)
Apr 28 06:41:44 arbol kernel: ata1.00: qc timeout (cmd 0xec)
Apr 28 06:41:44 arbol kernel: ata1.00: failed to IDENTIFY (I/O error,
err_mask=0x4)
Apr 28 06:41:44 arbol kernel: ata1.00: revalidation failed (errno=-5)
Apr 28 06:41:44 arbol kernel: ata1: hard resetting link
Apr 28 06:41:46 arbol kernel: ata1: softreset failed (device not ready)
Apr 28 06:41:46 arbol kernel: ata1: failed due to HW bug, retry pmp=0
Apr 28 06:41:46 arbol kernel: ata1: SATA link up 1.5 Gbps (SStatus 113 SControl
310)
Apr 28 06:41:46 arbol kernel: ata1.00: configured for UDMA/133
Apr 28 06:41:46 arbol kernel: ata1: EH complete
Apr 28 06:41:46 arbol kernel: sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] 2930277168 512-byte hardware
sectors (1500302 MB)
Apr 28 06:41:46 arbol kernel: sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Write Protect is off
Apr 28 06:41:46 arbol kernel: sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Write cache: enabled, read
cache: enabled, doesn't support DPO or FUA
-wolfgang
I had errors like this when my system load got to high for my system to
work with. I later found out that the motherboard controller was to
slow. It is an older system. Replaced the controllers with SATA cards
and no errors since.
I could predict when the errors were going to occur and almost predict
when the system would lock up using uptime.
What controller chip is used in your system?
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Re: nVidia vs. ATI graphics card for fedora
Kevin Kofler wrote: Kevin Kempter wrote: I have a Dell with an Nvidia Quadro FX 3700 and Fedora 10. I get 3d, openGL, desktop effects, dual moniters, the works. All by using the kmod_nvidia package ... which is not part of Fedora, is not Free Software and in fact doesn't have source code available at all for the main portion, thus making it impossible for anybody other than nVidia to fix any issues with it. And there have been plenty of those issues, and there will undoubtedly be more in the future. It is completely counterproductive to recommend hardware requiring proprietary drivers. Those drivers are NOT SUPPORTED in Fedora, if there's any issue with them, you're on your own (we'll close the bugs CANTFIX as there's really nothing we can do to fix them, see the first paragraph). Kevin Kofler But until there are good open source drivers that support full 3D, there are not many options out there. Thank copyrights and patent laws for making it so hard to produce open source drivers. Without support for 3D, many users wouldn't touch Linux. I know that I wouldn't be able to use Linux at home and I would be stuck with either Windows or Macs which my family don't like. As for the CANTFIX, I don't argue with that as it is impossible to know what the problems are. It would be better to explain to the filers to submit the bugs to the manufacturer. Of course it is hard to find bugs in certain software without 3D support. You can end up with a catch 22 condition. -- Robin Laing -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Remooving U3 from USB drive.
Rick Stevens wrote: Beartooth wrote: On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 07:56:51 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: A question which appeared on fedora-list recently was how to remove U#W from a USB drive. I did not see a resolution until the following web link: http://www.u3.com/uninstall I've been trying to do that, and have a long thread going at http://forum.eeeuser.com/viewforum.php?id=1 called How to wipe thumbdrives?? There is one post in that thread with a technique using dd; I haven't tried it yet, but probably will. I have a couple of those buggers as well. I think the dd you're thinking of is something like: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=1M count=2048 or something like that...the idea being to write zeros to the entire drive, wiping out its partition table and all. It does NOT work on the SanDisk Cruzers. I ran the dd three times on each, writing all 4GB of data to them (took forever!). Fired up fdisk and it reported a gparted-type partition table on them. The partition table should have been wiped out via the dd. I then ran gparted itself. It did NOT complain about a missing partition table (it should have), but it did say there were no defined partitions. Whoopee. Yeah, no partitions, but a gparted-style partition table that can't be done away with. Sheesh. snip If I could find non SanDisk Cruzer thumbdrives here, I'd never buy another. I now buy nothing but PNY or Apacer thumbdrives. If I'm in doubt and if the package says that something's preloaded, I treat them like toxic waste. All I can say is that users should complain to the manufacturers and see about getting refunds. For a $20 drive it doesn't seem worth the effort. Enough complaints could be enough to get some success. I have contacted Sandisk and said I won't purchase any products until I see a way to remove this virus without having Windows. Note that the U3 site does ask for a reason for removing the software. I have complained a couple of times. There was even a thread on their forum about a Linux tool. That was a waste of time. If you search, there are U3 key loggers and other nasties available. -- Robin Laing -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: nVidia vs. ATI graphics card for fedora
Globe Trotter wrote: Hi, I am ordering a souped-up workstation and I was wondering which graphics card is preferable for running fedora: a 256 MB PCIe x16 nVidia NVS 290, Dual Monitor capable or a ATI Fire GL V3600 256MB, Dual Monitor DVI Capable ATI3600 What would you suggest? I do not need huge 3-d acceleration and stuff, but want it to work well. Please let me know if I should provide more information. Best wishes, Trotter I would normally recommend Nvidia as I have used them since the beginning of Fedora with little or no problems after fighting with ATI for over a month. But with AMD purchasing ATI, I would look at them as well. I have a computer with an Intel video chip built on the motherboard but it doesn't like Fedora. It is the one chip that is not well supported in Linux. Replaced it with an Nvidia. The AKMOD package is supposed to work like a dream but there are times that it hasn't. If you need 3D, I can only say that Nvidia has been great for me. -- Robin Laing -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: fedora 10 weird mplayer playback
Janez Ko¹mrlj wrote: I upgraded to fedora 10 about a month ago. And since then mplayer doesn't play videos smoothly. The sound is ok, but the video plays to slow for a couple of seconds, then it plays to fast, to catch up with the sound, then it slows down again and so on. I did a fresh install from the live cd, but i reused the old home dir, so the user settings stayed the same. I installed Mplayer from the rpmfusion repo. I use the x86-64 distribution, on an AMD Pheom II X3. My Brother has similar problems on a completely fresh install (including home dir) on a core 2 duo laptop. I have seen the same thing. In my case it just seems to freeze for the first few seconds. I didn't worry about it at first because I had bigger issues to deal with. I have the problem with no configuration files as using configuration files. I don't have any problem playing the videos in VLC. As it is a rpmfusion package, it would be better to ask them. -- Robin Laing -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: can't open .docx files using OO2.3 in F7
Frank Cox wrote: On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 23:38:26 +0200 Kevin Kofler wrote: OO.o 2.3 doesn't support .docx, only OO.o 3.0 does, so you need at least F10. Or the OO3 download from the openoffice.org website. I put OO3 on Centos 5 using those rpms and it works well. Oops, I missed the 2.3 version number. Me bad. -- Robin Laing -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Remooving U3 from USB drive.
Aaron Konstam wrote: On Sun, 2009-04-26 at 14:28 -0700, Mike Cloaked wrote: Aaron Konstam wrote: A question which appeared on fedora-list recently was how to remove U#W from a USB drive. I did not see a resolution until the following web link: http://www.u3.com/uninstall I tried to find the answer to this some time ago also - the link you refer to does provide a solution to removing the u3 stuff but not for linux as far as I know - I never did find if there was a way to remove it in linux even using the reformatting tools like parted and equivalents - the hidden partition seems particularly stubborn against decontamination attempts in linux! I only ever bought a single u3 drive and in the end resorted to using a windows machine and the software you referred to in order to clean up the drive. After that it worked fine as a normal usb key. If you do find a linux removal solution I would be interested to hear about it You are right the above referenced procedure is a Windows solution. In a discussion about this yesterday some on suggested dd to wipe out the stick and then reformatting it. I don't know if this will work. -- I tried that. Resorted to the Windows technique. Even the U3 support groups couldn't give an answer. It was two years ago. I contacted Cruiser whom made the stick and they couldn't offer any support either. On one stick. The person that removed the U3 software had to remove some USB devices as they conflicted with the U3 software. Also our administrator that cleared one stick was surprised how the software screwed up with his windows system. The last stick that I purchased that had U3 on it didn't have anything listed on the package. -- Robin Laing -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Installing Moonlight?
Matthew Saltzman wrote: On Sun, 2009-04-26 at 11:31 -0600, Frank Cox wrote: On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 13:26:40 -0400 Matthew Saltzman wrote: I downloaded the file novell-moonlight-1.0.1-x86_64.xpi, which is a zip archive, but I'm not sure what to do with its contents. Anyone know the answer? An xpi file is a Firefox plugin. I have never looked at that particular one, but Firefox has a built-in ability to install xpi files -- just click on the file and it will give you the opportunity to install it. After installing, you can remove or disable it from the Firefox tools menu. Ah, good point. That worked to get the plugin installed, but the site seems to require Silverlight 2... I am concerned about Moonlight (as well as mono). Something to think about. http://meandubuntu.wordpress.com/2009/04/25/3-moonlight-questions/ Moonlight has some of the Silverlight 2 features. I would complain to the site that requires Moonlight and show them that it isn't good enough for Major league Baseball. -- Robin Laing -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: PackageKit run scheduling?
Beartooth wrote: On Wed, 22 Apr 2009 18:31:01 +0100, Richard Hughes wrote: [...] Is there a way to control when PackageKit runs? I'd like to schedule it to download and install all updates at 3 AM, every night. There's not yet a time option, although that would be a valid feature request. Such a time option begs the question about secondary policy, like what to do if the user specifies updates should be installed at 5AM and then goes to bed early for two weeks. Alternatively, how do I disable PackageKit entirely? System - Preferences - Software updates, although I would prefer you help us fix the problem, rather than taking that option :-) Not to be contentious, but because I want to know if I'm missing anything : what is the benefit of running PackageKit, rather than yum clean all followed by yum update at *my* convenience daily? I don't do the yum clean all but I prefer manually doing updates when it is convenient for me. Due to my work, I sometimes don't update for 3 or 4 days because of application issues. -- Robin Laing -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: PackageKit run scheduling?
Richard Hughes wrote: On Wed, 2009-04-22 at 18:29 +, Beartooth wrote: Not to be contentious, but because I want to know if I'm missing anything : what is the benefit of running PackageKit, rather than yum clean all followed by yum update at *my* convenience daily? Well, codec installing, mime type installing, font installing, plugin and dictionary installing removing the whole infrastructure makes a lot of the other bits stop working. It's perfectly okay to leave it installed, and just not let it ever check for updates itself. It also allows you to use yum and rpm directly without getting in the way. Have a look at www.packagekit.org if you need to see use-cases and screenshots. Thanks. Richard. I can do all these with Yumex which interface I prefer. I tried packagekit when I installed F10 but still found yumex is better. I removed it. I may try it again when F11 comes out. -- Robin Laing -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: can't open .docx files using OO2.3 in F7
Dave Stevens wrote: the subject line says it. I downloaded the current version fro Linux from OO.org and get a mass of rmps with dependencies. Suggestions? If I could open this file (and others like it) I'd keep the version. For those inclined to reccommend an upgrade I will do this when F11 is available but want to use the current version of Fedora for another month or so. dave It could be that MS created documents are not to the OOXML ISO standard and OOo is designed based on the ISO standard. This problem is well documented. I suggest you contact the OOo list but you may be asked to submit the document for analysis. -- Robin Laing -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Lost Files
jolmstead wrote: I don't think I was clear enough on this, but the /media/disk location was actually the Windows Vista partition. And, like I said, from the command prompt I created a folder in the root C: drive (which was /media/disk) and then copied everything there. I verified every thing was there from the command prompt using ls and then removed it from the /home/user folder. It wasn't until I booted into Vista that the data appeared to be lost. Nothing was every interrupted and I did a standard shut down and restart to get to Vista. Does this change anything or is all hope lost? Thanks, Jeremy Have you copied files this way before with no problems? I wonder if Vista may have moved the files because they were not supposed to be officially there. All my Vista experiences have been disasters. Look for undelete tools for Vista as well. Another thing that I have happend in the past, is that the drive/partition wasn't mounted and I created the directories and moved files. When the partition is mounted, the files are still existant but not visible. Boot into Linux and make sure that the Vista partition is not mounted and check again. I don't think udev or hal will delete files from /media. -- Robin Laing -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Detection of 16GB RAM
Karthik Balaguru wrote: Hi, Does X86_64 FC2(Fedora Core2) detect 16GB RAM ? Thx in advans, Karthik Balaguru * * __ Make sure your BIOS sees it. My new machine had BIOS that wouldn't see more than 8Gig. -- Robin Laing -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Firefox 3 hogging 90% CPU, can anything be done about this?
Paul Blondé wrote: -Original Message- From: fedora-list-boun...@redhat.com [mailto:fedora-list-boun...@redhat.com] On Behalf Of Hugh Caley Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 11:23 AM To: fedora-list@redhat.com Subject: Re: Firefox 3 hogging 90% CPU, can anything be done about this? Open-source alternatives are fine, but try to find a new machine that doesn't use an ATi or Nvidia graphics card. I'm not sure where you get your data, but Intel integrated graphics outnumbers ATI and nVidia both (not together, though it gets close at times) by a wide margin. http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/819/1024819/graphics-market-booming -while http://www.i4u.com/article19455.html However, what this has to do with Firefox, Flash or Adobe Reader is not clear. Are you getting this problem on machines with ATI and nVidia graphics cards and no others? _ Paul The problem with Flash is it is video intensive. It requires a good video system. FWIW, I have a Dell that has an integrated Intel Video controller that won't work properly with Linux. Installing an older Nvidia card and using the legacy driver from Nvidia (rpmfusion) made the system seem like a brand new computer. Since installing No Script and Flash Block plugins, I find that Firefox never uses many resources. Over 170 tabs open and Firefox is only using about 3% of my resources. I would have to check on my home system but it is much better since installing the tools. There were times that it was so slow due to flash. It is surprising the number of flash based ads and other items on many web pages. It can quickly add a massive load onto your system. -- Robin Laing -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Kde freezes in Fedora 10
Anne Wilson wrote: On Thursday 09 April 2009 18:43:09 Robin Laing wrote: I will have to try removing akonadi. I have not found a use of it yet. Maybe it will fix some of my problems. Sure. It might make coffee for you while it's doing it :-) What makes you think that akonadi has anything to do with this? I've seen nothing in this thread to suggest it. Anne Anne, The post I responded to mentioned as quoted. Disabled desktop effects and yum remove akonadi it's working now. I am not using desktop effects and I have not seen any use for akonadi. I don't use most of the KDE applications that work with akonadi. I am at a loss for the freezes and lockups of the system. I am lucky to get 48 hours of uptime with F10. On the weekend I ordered new controller cards for my HD's as the chips on the motherboard are slow and more RAM. This weekend the computer locked up twice yesterday with no-one logged in needing system reset using kdm. I am not getting anything in any of the logs to point to a problem other than the odd disk message related to the controller. Some random kernel oops over the last two months where I get a pop-up about sending the info to the kernel developers. With my years of using RedHat and Fedora, this has been the worst experience yet. This install is not like the rest though and I do accept that I may have to remove disk encryption as one level of testing. If system loads are high due to encryption, it may be necessary. I am going to try the SysRq key settings and see if I have some success with getting some info. -- Robin Laing -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Kde freezes in Fedora 10
GMS S wrote: Robin Laing wrote: [ Does the keyboard still work? Does CTRL+BACKSPACE kill the xwindows? New or old machine? I have had this happen on an older AMD machine. I am still tracing the issue down to something. My machine locks up from time to time. I see that the load goes up before it does lock up. Only once have I gotten a message in any log. I need to change a drive controller. Seagate drives? Could be related to the driver issue that there is an update for. ] Disabled desktop effects and yum remove akonadi it's working now. lspci: 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82945G/GZ/P/PL Memory Controller Hub (rev 02) 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82945G/GZ Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02) 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01) 00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI Express Port 1 (rev 01) 00:1c.1 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI Express Port 2 (rev 01) 00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB UHCI Controller #1 (rev 01) 00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB UHCI Controller #2 (rev 01) 00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB UHCI Controller #3 (rev 01) 00:1d.3 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB UHCI Controller #4 (rev 01) 00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller (rev 01) 00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge (rev e1) 00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801GB/GR (ICH7 Family) LPC Interface Bridge (rev 01) 00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) IDE Controller (rev 01) 00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801GB/GR/GH (ICH7 Family) SATA IDE Controller (rev 01) 00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) SMBus Controller (rev 01) 02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88E8039 PCI-E Fast Ethernet Controller (rev 14) Thanks. I will have to try removing akonadi. I have not found a use of it yet. Maybe it will fix some of my problems. -- Robin Laing -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Kde freezes in Fedora 10
GMS S wrote: Hi, rpm -qa | grep kde After running firefox or konqueror kde freezes but the mouse moves. Can anyone give any idea? Thanks. Does the keyboard still work? Does CTRL+BACKSPACE kill the xwindows? New or old machine? I have had this happen on an older AMD machine. I am still tracing the issue down to something. My machine locks up from time to time. I see that the load goes up before it does lock up. Only once have I gotten a message in any log. I need to change a drive controller. Seagate drives? Could be related to the driver issue that there is an update for. -- Robin Laing -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Missing Hardware
Gene Poole wrote: Robin Laing wrote: Does the drive showup in the BIOS? Is your powersupply supplying the correct voltages? I have seen issues with low powersupply voltages. -- Robin Laing There's no problem with the DVD drive. If I boot off of the prior kernel all is OK. Thanks, Gene That is good to know. I have had sudden hardware failures that seemed to tie into updates when actually it was something else. If it is kernel related, then submit a bug report. -- Robin Laing -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Missing Hardware
Gene Poole wrote: I'm running Fedora 9 on a custom AMD Phenom Quad-Core with 8GB RAM installed, 2-SATA hard drives (Seagate 500GB and Seagate 1TB); HP DVD/CD RW Dual Layer with Lightscribe. Lo and behold, I've updated my running (this machine) from kernel 2.6.25-14 to kernel 2.6.27.19-78.2.30 (?) and have experienced the following: 1. My dual-layer DVD/RW and CD/RW drive has disappeared (it was /dev/sr0) The only messages I see that appear to be of concern are: [r...@jpdsys3 log]# cat messages | grep -i reset | more Mar 22 14:46:30 jpdsys3 kernel: ata1: softreset failed (device not ready) Mar 22 14:46:30 jpdsys3 kernel: ata2: softreset failed (device not ready) Mar 22 14:53:55 jpdsys3 kernel: ata1: softreset failed (device not ready) Mar 22 14:53:55 jpdsys3 kernel: ata2: softreset failed (device not ready) All of the devices are SATA except the DVD drive. How can I get /dev/sr0 back? TIA, Gene Does the drive showup in the BIOS? Is your powersupply supplying the correct voltages? I have seen issues with low powersupply voltages. -- Robin Laing -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: copying lvm with the same name
Frank Cox wrote: One of my computers died and, of course, there is un-backed-up data on there that I want to recover if I can. The hard drive seems to be in good shape so I took it out of the dead box and installed it on this computer (my main desktop machine.) I have been doing a bunch of reading about logical volumes and some of what I've found is self-contradictory, incomplete and stuff that I just don't really understand (yet.) And, as you can imagine, since this is my main desktop machine I'm not terribly anxious to just start playing around with the lvm configuration without knowing what I'm doing. Here are my findings so far: [r...@mutt ~]# pvscan PV /dev/sdb2 VG VolGroup00 lvm2 [279.25 GB / 32.00 MB free] PV /dev/sda2 VG VolGroup00 lvm2 [465.56 GB / 32.00 MB free] Total: 2 [744.81 GB] / in use: 2 [744.81 GB] / in no VG: 0 [0 ] [r...@mutt ~]# lvscan ACTIVE'/dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00' [277.28 GB] inherit ACTIVE'/dev/VolGroup00/LogVol01' [1.94 GB] inherit It looks like the machine can see the second drive and the lvm that's on it /dev/sdb2, but it has the same VolGroup name as /dev/sda2. What I would like to do is twofold: First, and most importantly, I would like to mount it as-is so I can copy my data off of there. Second, I would like to re-format it and add it to the storage capacity that I already have on this machine. Heck, if it's still a good drive I might as well put it to use. So, how can I mount VolGroup00 that's on /dev/sdb2? The vgchange command followed by a simple mount command looks like what I want to do, but what's the syntax? As I said, I really don't want to bugger up my primary hard drive I have read this thread and I wish I had seen something like it two years ago. I had upgraded a system that used LVM and replaced two drives to increase the total available space. It turned out that I had forgotten to backup a directory. To late and rushing. I wanted to install the removed drive to see if the directory was on that drive but it was part of the old group (generic name creation) and strange and wonderful problems started to crop up. I never did get the drive mounted back then. There needs to be a firm way of changing and editing LVM characteristics in these situations. -- Robin Laing -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: OS hiccups
Smith, Herb wrote: All, I'm running Fedora 10 and have been very happy with it. Within the last week, however, the OS seems to be experiencing momentary hangups of some sort where all activity stops for 10 or 15 seconds. The cursor won't move, web pages won't scroll, etc. This occurs not only in Firefox, but generally regardless of what I'm doing. Does anyone have any idea what could be causing this? TIA, Herb You have not given an details to even suggest something. top is your tool to start with. ps is another. iostat and dstat are other tools that can help. http://linuxpoison.blogspot.com/2008/11/linux-system-monitoring-using-dstat.html I am having similar issues but I now know that mine are due to IO and D-states. I want to get more ram to see if that helps but I also know that running dmraid and luks is putting a load on the system. I need a faster system in the future. There is also this article that was on this list a few weeks ago. http://rudd-o.com/en/linux-and-free-software/tales-from-responsivenessland-why-linux-feels-slow-and-how-to-fix-that I do see these slight freezes in Firefox, even on my faster 64bit machine at work. -- Robin Laing -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Evolution throwing away emails for one of my accounts ?
Tim wrote: Tim: That's easy: Fetch a scad of mail when you have filters set, versus fetch a scad of mail when you don't have any filters set. Unmolested, they romp into the inbox very quickly. When filtering puts its fingers in, it's far worse than fetching mail over dial-up. James Wilkinson: That sort of filtering speed (I’m guessing maybe a couple of seconds per message on emails generally smaller than, say, 128 KB) makes me suspect that it’s passing emails through SpamAssassin – it sounds like the right speed for SpamAssassin, and there’s an evolution-spamassassin package to enable it. Nup, not doing that here. I even disable the Evolution plugins that I'm not using. The filtering was just a few filters for mailing lists which look for a matching reply-to header. Each filter was just the match rule, followed by a stop processing instruction. With about two filters (e.g. for two mailing lists), it's reasonable. With about three, it's getting annoying. Try and filter from about eight different lists, and it's far too slow to put up with. I've seen a few other similar comments about the slowness of filtering over the years. I will second that this has been an issue for some time. I had this issue when we moved to Exchange Server a few years ago. I found a way around using Evolution and have not looked back. When downloading mail it would take forever to get the mail and sort it out using the OWA interface (Only Option). Using SpamAssasin just made it worse. -- Robin Laing -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: dear university of calgary: about this 2K/s jigdo download ...
Robert P. J. Day wrote: if there's anyone from the u of calgary reading this, there's not much point being a fedora mirror if you're only going to pump out content at about 2.5K/s. i'm just sayin' ... rday -- Robert P. J. Day Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry: Have classroom, will lecture. http://crashcourse.ca Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA Why not contact the UofC directly. -- Robin Laing -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: removing autorun from a flash drive
Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 22:55:05 -0500, Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to wrote: On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 17:47:04 -0400, Todd Denniston todd.dennis...@ssa.crane.navy.mil wrote: Bruno Wolff III wrote, On 03/10/2009 05:34 PM: Repartitioning the raw device would probably work. You would then create a filesystem on the partition. No, if you repartition the device, you wipe out the ability for the U3 removal tool to work, but the fake CD remains IIRC. Maybe I am missing something. If you write over the blocks with the U3 tool, how does it not get erased? Is this tool located somewhere of than the normal blocks on the device? I found some info, though it doesn't look like the full details are publicly known. The device shows itself as two devices and indicates different types for each so that one looks like mass storage and the other a cd drive. It is suspected that nonstandard scsi commands are required to write to the cd device. Some people have tricked one of the available tools into loading custom isos into the cd portion of the device. So it looks like you do need a special tool if you want to have the space initially reserved for the cd image released for use in the normal part. Probably theer is some secret scsi command to do this that wouldn't be too hard to find if someone were serious about figuring it out. Why anyone would want one of these devices is beyond me. It's a security nightmare for both the computer being used (due to autorun being enabled) and the usb device owner (due to not just running code from the device). If you own both, there is no reason to have that feature. I agree with this. When I had the software removed from one device. The person that was doing it for me had to disconnect most USB devices from his computer. It also wouldn't work with the USB port on his monitor. I did some searching at the time and found that there are keylogger tools that will auto install like a trojan onto the U3 partition. Big security risk. Also, my daughter had her stick with U3 on it for school. The Mac computers would constantly corrupt the data because the dual partitions when unmounting. Before I asked someone with Windows to remove the U3 code, I tried everything I could find to test this. Even after this, I still needed a Windows box to remove the code. On the download page for the tool, there was a comment box that I voiced my opinion on. -- Robin Laing -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: fedora on asus M70VN-X1?
Kevin Kofler wrote: Robin Laing wrote: Nvidia has caused some problems but in all the years has worked close to 90% of the time. Freshrpms support is great. I just wish akmod would work as advertised on my systems. FYI, FreshRPMs merged into RPM Fusion, there are no graphics drivers in FreshRPMs anymore. Kevin Kofler Forgive me and beat me with a wet noodle. It has been FreshRPM's for years. I know that it is rpmfusion now. Just a mental block. :) It could be my 50+ mind is going. Maybe that is why I am enjoying my job better. :) -- Robin Laing -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: fedora on asus M70VN-X1?
Gene Heskett wrote: On Monday 09 March 2009, Robert P. J. Day wrote: anyone have good/bad/indifferent experience with one of these running fedora? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834220412 Robert, I have an ASUS mobo in this machine, but had I known the problems I would encounter with its broken bios, I would not have touched it for any price. As it was, I paid nearly $300 USD just for the board, an M2N-SLI Deluxe. I think the board is good, but the bios is a certified problem child. They have a newer, beta rated one on their web site, which fixes a problem in memory allocation that any linux kernel does a 1 times oops on very early in the boot sequence, but I have yet to get a 1 hour uptime out of it. If I use the one that does the oops, uptimes are weeks if I want them. And they aren't fixing it, that beta copy is now almost 3 years old according to its internal dates when unzip'd! Repeated emails, 3 now, to support have never been acknowledged either. After that, nope, not with a 50 foot borrowed pole. In general, I have been very happy with Nvidia over either Intel or ATI cards that I have run. The Intel card is supported but the graphics are problematic and it isn't just Fedora but all versions of Linux from what I have seen. ATI was a nightmare as I do need 3D (kids and games) and I just had headaches. Nvidia has caused some problems but in all the years has worked close to 90% of the time. Freshrpms support is great. I just wish akmod would work as advertised on my systems. In regards to the ASUS M2N-SLI Deluxe. I am using one now and it works like a dream. All I had to do was update the BIOS to fix an issue with the amount of RAM I was using. It wouldn't recognize anything over 4Gig when I got it. The only time it gets rebooted is for kernel updates and is being used for BOINC so running at almost 100% at all times. Lately all my video issues are related to the autodetect features of xorg. I have created xorg.conf files and fixed my issues. As for this particular laptop, I cannot say but I would purchase an Nvidia based system over any other one. -- Robin Laing -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: removing autorun from a flash drive
Marc Wilson wrote: On Sun, Mar 08, 2009 at 03:36:02PM -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote: If I need a different drive, how, if at all, do I recognize one without an autorun.inf? shrug Don't buy one with the U3 label. It's not like the thing wasn't plainly marked. I purchased a drive that had U3 and it was not marked on the packaging. I wouldn't have purchased the drive if I knew about it. I had to find a Windows user so I could remove it. One person was upset because he had to remove hardware devices to get the software to work on his computer. -- Robin Laing -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Apparent total loss of all Raid 1 data from both drives`
Robert Karge wrote: Robin, Thanks for the reply. The rebuilt array, MD0, df shows only 1% used. These disks are not included in LVM. Bob Karge On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 12:36 PM, Robin Laing robin.la...@drdc-rddc.gc.ca mailto:robin.la...@drdc-rddc.gc.ca wrote: Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Thu, Mar 05, 2009 at 10:26:57 -0500, Robert Karge rkargeconsult...@gmail.com mailto:rkargeconsult...@gmail.com wrote: Any help would be very much appreciated. I have reloaded F10 (on the boot drive) but both drives from the original Raid 1 still appear to be totally empty. It is paradoxical how much the total loss of years of work and data teaches about better backup functionality. It is unlikely that you have really lost all of the data based on what you said you did. You do want to be careful about what you do now so that you don't make things worse while trying to fix things. The rescue disk suggestion is probably the way to start. If you are going to try to do something dangerous, you may want to consider pulling one of the disks. This has its own set of risks though and you would want to make sure if you got things back, that you back stuff up before trying to add the disk back into the raid array. I will agree with this. statement. With a 500GB drive, I would use this as a work disk. I would do an install that doesn't look at the RAID drives. I would actually disconnect them. Now you said that you rebuilt the RAID. After to did a rebuild, did you have the same LVM settings? I ask this because I had a real nightmare with LVM and a RAID 1 some time ago. I refuse to use LVM now. How much data is on the rebuilt array? What does df give you? If worse comes to worse, you can use forensic tools to scan your drives for data. I had to do this with my problem. I put the one drive into a USB port and mounted it read only to scan the drive. The worse thing you can do is panic and rush. It took me almost a week to recover some data after I forgot to back it up when I did a full system redesign and rebuild. Good luck. -- Robin Laing Okay, this is not the best sign. It shows that your inodes have been reset and possibly your partition tables as well. This doesn't mean your data is lost though. As I said earlier, look at tools like foremost and other recovery tools. Here are some links to get you started. http://linuxshellaccount.blogspot.com/2008/08/recovering-deleted-files-by-inode.html http://blog.lxpages.com/2007/06/21/linux-file-recovery/ http://linux.sys-con.com/node/117909/print http://hardware.slashdot.org/hardware/08/05/12/2330200.shtml http://www.informationweek.com/news/storage/disaster_recovery/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=208403254 Take your time to work on this. This is an interesting read http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/245 -- Robin Laing -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: USB-SATA/IDE adapter on linux/Fedora?
L wrote: Hi, Has any one had good experience with USB-SATA/IDE adapter on linux/Fedora? if so, what is the brand? Most of these devises on markets is marked as workable on win or MAC. non mention of linux thanks Y I have a thermaltake drive carrier that supports both SATA and IDE. Works quite well. I have not tried any external adapters. Also has esata port. -- Robin Laing -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Apparent total loss of all Raid 1 data from both drives`
Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Thu, Mar 05, 2009 at 10:26:57 -0500, Robert Karge rkargeconsult...@gmail.com wrote: Any help would be very much appreciated. I have reloaded F10 (on the boot drive) but both drives from the original Raid 1 still appear to be totally empty. It is paradoxical how much the total loss of years of work and data teaches about better backup functionality. It is unlikely that you have really lost all of the data based on what you said you did. You do want to be careful about what you do now so that you don't make things worse while trying to fix things. The rescue disk suggestion is probably the way to start. If you are going to try to do something dangerous, you may want to consider pulling one of the disks. This has its own set of risks though and you would want to make sure if you got things back, that you back stuff up before trying to add the disk back into the raid array. I will agree with this. statement. With a 500GB drive, I would use this as a work disk. I would do an install that doesn't look at the RAID drives. I would actually disconnect them. Now you said that you rebuilt the RAID. After to did a rebuild, did you have the same LVM settings? I ask this because I had a real nightmare with LVM and a RAID 1 some time ago. I refuse to use LVM now. How much data is on the rebuilt array? What does df give you? If worse comes to worse, you can use forensic tools to scan your drives for data. I had to do this with my problem. I put the one drive into a USB port and mounted it read only to scan the drive. The worse thing you can do is panic and rush. It took me almost a week to recover some data after I forgot to back it up when I did a full system redesign and rebuild. Good luck. -- Robin Laing -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Easiest Way To Move Thunderbird Mail Folders To Another Computer?
Kevin J. Cummings wrote:
Robert L Cochran wrote:
I have a .thunderbird email client folder on a Fedora 7 x86_64 system
that I need to move to a Fedora 10 x86 system. It occurs to me that if I
move this, and then start thunderbird on the new system, I might have
trouble because of 64-bit code. Also trouble with updating Enigmail. I
There should be noting specific to 32-bit or 64-bit in your .thunderbird
directory. I know, I upgraded an FC6.i386 system to F9.x86_64 and my
Thunderbird just plain continued to work.
want to be sure I can sign and encrypt email messages. Am I better off
just moving
.thunderbird/[salt].default/Mail/*
.thunderbird/[salt].default/abook.mab
You could just move the entire .thunderbird/[salt].default directory
lock stock and barrel (AFAIK). Make sure you edit the
.thunderbird/profiles.ini file to properly reflect your default profile.
What file(s) store the email account information?
They are all buried down in the profile directory structure.
Or, to make a long story short, can I just tar up all of .thunderbird
and not worry about conflicts on the 32-bit system?
That's my thought. Good luck!
Bob Cochran
Greenbelt, Maryland, USA
I will second this. And if your .thunderbird directory is in the same
/home/{user}/.thunderbird you will not have to change anything.
I have done two upgrades and all I did was copy the data and open TB.
It isn't that much different than upgrading from one version of TB to a
different one from my experience.
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Re: F10 Dependency Problems - Nvidia Drivers
Charlie McVeigh wrote: The last 3 waves of updates for F10 have all started causing me dependency problems with regard to my nvidia video drivers. I am not sure whats up but I was wondering if someone far more enlightened than me could help me with my current upgrade SNAFU. I have waited a couple of days to see it this problem disappears due to repository syncing issues, but it has not. When doing a yum update I am getting the following error message: Transaction Check Error: file /lib/modules/2.6.27.12-170.2.5.fc10.x86_64/extra/nvidia/nvidia.ko from install of kmod-nvidia-2.6.27.12-170.2.5.fc10.x86_64-180.27-1.fc10.x86_64 conflicts with file from package kmod-nvidia-2.6.27.12-170.2.5.fc10.x86_64-180.25-1.fc10.x86_64 Here are my repos: $ yum repolist Loaded plugins: fastestmirror, fedorakmod, kernel-module, priorities, refresh- : packagekit repo id repo name status adobe Adobe Systems Incorporated enabled: 17 atrpmsATrpms - x86_64 - Stable enabled:626 fedoraFedora 10 - x86_64 enabled: 14,303 jpackage5 JPackage 5.0 (Generic) enabled: 2,787 jpackage5-nonfree JPackage 5.0 (Non-Free)enabled: 15 kde-redhatKDE-Redhat: Fedora-Specificenabled: 0 kde-redhat-allKDE-Redhat: General Packages enabled:289 livna rpm.livna.org for 10 - x86_64 enabled: 3 planetccrma Planet CCRMA 10 - x86_64 enabled:331 planetcorePlanet CCRMA Core 10 - x86_64 enabled: 43 rpmfusion-freeRPM Fusion for Fedora 10 - Freeenabled:356 rpmfusion-free-updatesRPM Fusion for Fedora 10 - Free - Upda enabled:295 rpmfusion-nonfree RPM Fusion for Fedora 10 - Nonfree enabled:137 rpmfusion-nonfree-updates RPM Fusion for Fedora 10 - Nonfree - U enabled:167 skype Skype Repository enabled: 1 updates Fedora 10 - x86_64 - Updates enabled: 4,560 repolist: 23,930 Any ideas on how to get past this issue? Thanks in advance for any and all help. Charlie I have gotten around the conflict by removing the rpm and then reinstalling it. I did like the kmod version of the nvidia driver but have not had success with the akmod version so back to the regular module. Are both modules coming from rpmfusion? Just curious because I cannot see a problem if they are coming from the same repository. I ask this as I have not had any issues with the nvidia driver lately. -- Robin Laing -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: has K3B been abandoned?
bennett78 wrote: I hope it's still supported...It recognizes my CD DVD-R runs great on CentOS5 (close to RHEL5) # uname -r 2.6.18-92.1.22.el5 and puts a Blank DVD-R Dicc icon on the Desktop I trying to get MongoArchive to backup my new, clean installation but it's wimmy scripts can't find my DVD drive, because it looks like it doesn't show up in a grep of the mount command or a mount on /mnt/cdrom and is not auto-mounted. My /etc/fstab: # /dev/hdc /media/cdrom auto pamconsole,fscontext=system_u:object_r:removable_t,exec,noauto,managed 0 0 /dev/hdd /media/cdrecorder auto pamconsole,fscontext=system_u:object_r:removable_t,exec,noauto,managed 0 0 How does K3B find the DVD drive in my case /dev/hdd? thanks, -Frank I used k3b last night on F10. Only one issue and that is a reported upstream bug with verify and auto-eject. It seems that k3b isn't waiting until the disk is settled before trying to access it with some burners. A disk isn't mounted when it is inserted if it is blank. In KDE, I get asked what to do with a full disk. Last night I was playing with burning and to test the DVD image, I ended up using /dev/sr0. -- Robin Laing -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora 10 64-bit Wired Network Problems
Rick Bilonick wrote:
I installed F10 64-bit from the DVD iso on a 64-bit Intel 4-cpu
computer. I had problems getting the wired network connection to work on
network A UNTIL I realized that the network daemon was for some
reason turned off by default. Once I turned it on via services,
networking worked fine (using a static IP). (There is an annoying bug in
the F10 gui for networking - the net mask gets changed to the gateway ip
which of course screws up networking - this appears to be fixed once you
upgrade the system but I had to manually fix the eth0 script to get the
netmask to the correct value.)
Now I've installed the same DVD iso on a dual 64-bit AMD Opteron system
that previously had run F8 (networking worked fine on network A). I've
made sure network is on. I've manually configured the eth0 script to
avoid the buggy network gui netmask problem. I can ping the gateway on
network A. For some reason I cannot ping the DNS on this network. I
can connect to my home computer using its IP address using ssh. But I
cannot view web pages using the URL's. I switched to a different
ethernet port on a different network B with different fixed IP and
DNS that I know works (I use it for my F8 laptop every day) and although
I can ping the gateway and DNS, I still cannot view web pages. I just
now hooked my Ubuntu 8.10 laptop to network A and it connects
flawlessly and I can view web pages so I know the port works - both
ports on networks A and B work fine. But I cannot get the F10 AMD
computer to connect to either network and view web pages (I do as I said
get some connection using IP addresses and ssh).
Any ideas on what is wrong? This is very frustrating. If I could get a
network connection I could upgrade the computer but I can't get to
square one.
P.S. I've looked at the eth0 script, the resolv.conf and hosts files and
everything looks fine. I've tried turning different things on and off
(like IPv6 and peer) but nothing makes a difference. I'm using DNS1,
DNS2, and DNS3 in the eth0 script and these appear appropriately in the
resolv.conf file.
I have never had this much trouble getting a wired network connection -
it almost always works by default.
Rick B.
My rule for this issue is to remove network manager.
On two desktop computers with static IP addresses was.
-install F10 from DVD.
-apply all the updates.
-install yumex. {I like it better than packagekit}
-install system-config-network
-turn off networkmanager
-remove networkmanager
-run system-config-network
-enter in settings
-restart networking
-ensure networking is running properly
-test by rebooting.
As others have suggested, check /etc/sysconfig/network*
as well as /etc/resolve.conf
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Re: connecting cell phone
François Patte wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bonjour, I have cell phone Nokia 3120 and I want to connect it to my computer with a usb data cable. When I plug it, I get this in the log files: Feb 16 16:08:11 dipankar kernel: usb 5-1: new low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 24 Feb 16 16:08:11 dipankar kernel: usb 5-1: device descriptor read/64, error -71 Feb 16 16:08:11 dipankar kernel: usb 5-1: device descriptor read/64, error -71 Feb 16 16:08:11 dipankar kernel: usb 5-1: new low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 25 Feb 16 16:08:12 dipankar kernel: usb 5-1: device descriptor read/64, error -71 Feb 16 16:08:12 dipankar kernel: usb 5-1: device descriptor read/64, error -71 Feb 16 16:08:12 dipankar kernel: usb 5-1: new low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 26 Feb 16 16:08:12 dipankar kernel: usb 5-1: device not accepting address 26, error -71 Feb 16 16:08:13 dipankar kernel: usb 5-1: new low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 27 Feb 16 16:08:13 dipankar kernel: usb 5-1: device not accepting address 27, error -71 What can I do? Thanks for helping. Looking at your error messages, it could be a simple issue of Linux running to fast for the phone to accept the address. I ran into this with a USB stick. This is the instructions to get around that problem. It may work for you. -C/P 1. Always back up config files before editing them: sudo cp /etc/modprobe.d/options /etc/modprobe.d/options.backup1 Now open /etc/modprobe.d/options in write mode: sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/options 2. Add the line: options scsi_mod inq_timeout=20 and save the file. Seemingly reloading the module (scsi_mod) does not cause the new configuration to take hold. What worked for both he and I was to reinstall the kernel. 3. Type uname -a and take note or memorize the exact kernel version numer you are using. 4. Use the above kernel number to reinstall your kernel. For me it was: sudo aptitude reinstall linux-image-2.6.27-7-generic This will take a couple of minutes. 5. Reboot and test. This fixed it for Mario and has worked great for me. Note that there is probably a better way to make the new configuration take effect other the reinstalling the kernel. Whoever knows what that is could post that and we would have a better solution. This confirms that the bug is just that the device does not wake up quickly enough. These instructions are for anyone who has these key(s) and is receiving the -110 (and possibly other) errors while attempting to use them. -- End C/P A test to see if the above fix will fix your problem is to insert the key, and shut down the machine. Start it back up, if it recognizes the drive and mounts it (or lets you mount it), then the above steps should fix the bug and allow you to use the key normally. -- Robin Laing -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server
Mark Haney wrote: MartÃn Marqués wrote: 2009/2/16 Mark Haney mha...@ercbroadband.org: MartÃn Marqués wrote: 2009/2/16 Arthur Pemberton pem...@gmail.com: On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 11:13 AM, MartÃn Marqués martin.marq...@gmail.com wrote: IMHO, this is the beginning of the end of KDE Because some portions of it require a free database engine? Seriously? Not becuase of that. Because it's starting to use resources which are totally unnecesary. It's starting to look like the Linux Vista: Nice, but useless. What part of KDE requires MySQL server? None that I am aware of. But then I build my own from source and not rely on these asinine package dependencies from binary packages. There are NO KDE components that /require/ MySQL. You can' specify database support, but it's not required. Please, enlight me. How can akonadi work without a mysql instance? http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/PIM/Akonadi#Which_DBMS_does_Akonadi_use.3F BTW, is there a way to disable akonadi and still work with KDE destop? And yes akonadi does require MySWL, but KDE 4.2 does NOT require akonadi. So my point is still very valid. I have been away for a week and during that week I upgraded my home system to KDE 4.2 and found that it installed Akonadi and now I get error messages every time I log in. I have been to busy to look at this though. On the other hand. KDE 4.2 does require Akonadi. Try to remove it from your system. It cannot be removed without removing KDE 4.2. I just tried. :( On my work system, Akonadi has not run. On my home system, I get error messages flash up but they disappear before I get a chance to read them. Some info box with a bunch of check marks. It needs some kind of acknowledgement before it closes. I removed Beagle when I tried gnome and as soon as I can, I will remove Akonadi. -- Robin Laing -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Linux users want better desktop performance (Screw data. Prioritize code)
Valent Turkovic wrote: http://rudd-o.com/en/linux-and-free-software/tales-from-responsivenessland-why-linux-feels-slow-and-how-to-fix-that What is you comment? I will have to try this at home. My home system is crawling and it could be related to some of these settings. I would like to see other fine tuning settings. I cannot afford a new machine at this time. -- Robin Laing -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: WHY I WANT TO STOP USING FEDORA!!!
Mike Chalmers wrote: I do not understand how Fedora expects you to upgrade or reinstall every 6 months or so. This is just not right. Should a distro keep continuing to make you install every six months, if so, I would rather use Microsoft. Why not provide updates, major ones, to the already installed OS instead of having to reinstall a new OS!!! I imagine that this, if done in an organized way, could be easier on the developers of Fedora. INSTEAD OF MAKING CONSUMERS INSTALL EVERY SIX MONTHS OR UNTIL THE UPDATES STOP, JUST PROVIDE LARGE UPDATES THAT UPGRADE A SYSTEM WITHOUT HAVING TO DO A COMPLETELY NEW INSTALL??? THEN YOU WILL HAVE A LARGER FAN BASE AND A MORE STABLE OS!!! I have not read the whole thread yet but I don't update every six months. My home systems were running Fedora 7 until I moved to 10. That is over a year. I know people that are still running FC4. There are other versions of Linux out there that offer long life just as Centos does. -- Robin Laing -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Creating ISO's and Writing DVD's on F10
Aaron Gray wrote: Are there any GUI tools for creating ISO's and burning DVD's on F10. If there are what are they called ? Many thanks in advance, Aaron When you ask about creating ISO's, are you talking about DATA or Video DVD's? Most of the suggestions will work for creating DATA DVD's or burning pre-created VIDEO_TS/* files. Creating full Video DVD's is another matter. -- Robin Laing -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Creating ISO's and Writing DVD's on F10
) dependency: libpangoft2-1.0.so.0()(64bit) dependency: libgnome-2.so.0()(64bit) dependency: libbeagle.so.1()(64bit) dependency: rtld(GNU_HASH) dependency: libgstpbutils-0.10.so.0()(64bit) dependency: libgio-2.0.so.0()(64bit) dependency: cdrdao dependency: libatk-1.0.so.0()(64bit) dependency: /bin/sh dependency: cdda2wav dependency: libgstreamer-0.10.so.0()(64bit) dependency: cdrecord dependency: libdbus-glib-1.so.2()(64bit) dependency: libgconf-2.so.4()(64bit) dependency: libart_lgpl_2.so.2()(64bit) dependency: libbonobo-activation.so.4()(64bit) dependency: libgnomecanvas-2.so.0()(64bit) dependency: libgobject-2.0.so.0()(64bit) dependency: libSM.so.6()(64bit) dependency: libgstinterfaces-0.10.so.0()(64bit) dependency: libxml2.so.2()(64bit) dependency: GConf2 dependency: libnautilus-extension.so.1()(64bit) dependency: libhal.so.1()(64bit) provide for by these packages. atk bash brasero cairo cdrdao dbus-glib dbus-libs dvd+rw-tools eel2 fontconfig freetype freetype-freeworld GConf2 genisoimage glib2 glibc gnome-vfs2 gstreamer gstreamer-plugins-base gtk2 hal-libs icedax libart_lgpl libbeagle libbonobo libbonoboui libburn libglade2 libgnome libgnomecanvas libgnomeui libICE libisofs libSM libxml2 nautilus-extensions ORBit2 pango popt shared-mime-info totem-pl-parser wodim For k3b dependency: dvd+rw-tools dependency: libkio.so.4()(64bit) dependency: libasound.so.2(ALSA_0.9.0rc4)(64bit) dependency: libFLAC++.so.6()(64bit) dependency: libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.4)(64bit) dependency: libc.so.6()(64bit) dependency: libvorbisfile.so.3()(64bit) dependency: rtld(GNU_HASH) dependency: libkparts.so.2()(64bit) dependency: libk3b.so.3()(64bit) dependency: libstdc++.so.6()(64bit) dependency: libstdc++.so.6(GLIBCXX_3.4)(64bit) dependency: libkdefx.so.4()(64bit) dependency: libkdeui.so.4()(64bit) dependency: libpthread.so.0()(64bit) dependency: libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2.5)(64bit) dependency: libm.so.6(GLIBC_2.2.5)(64bit) dependency: coreutils dependency: libpthread.so.0(GLIBC_2.2.5)(64bit) dependency: libasound.so.2(ALSA_0.9)(64bit) dependency: libk3bdevice.so.5()(64bit) dependency: mkisofs dependency: libmusicbrainz.so.4()(64bit) dependency: libstdc++.so.6(CXXABI_1.3)(64bit) dependency: libvorbis.so.0()(64bit) dependency: libartsc.so.0()(64bit) dependency: libm.so.6()(64bit) dependency: libvorbisenc.so.2()(64bit) dependency: libmpcdec.so.5()(64bit) dependency: libtag.so.1()(64bit) dependency: k3b-libs = 1.0.5-6.fc10 dependency: cdrdao dependency: /bin/sh dependency: cdrecord dependency: libkdecore.so.4()(64bit) dependency: libogg.so.0()(64bit) dependency: libX11.so.6()(64bit) dependency: libsndfile.so.1()(64bit) dependency: libsndfile.so.1(libsndfile.so.1.0)(64bit) dependency: libqt-mt.so.3()(64bit) dependency: libasound.so.2()(64bit) dependency: libDCOP.so.4()(64bit) provided by these packages. alsa-lib arts bash cdrdao coreutils dvd+rw-tools flac genisoimage glibc k3b-libs kdelibs3 libmpcdec libmusicbrainz libogg libsndfile libstdc++ libvorbis libX11 qt3 taglib wodim Gone are the days when an RPM would be all you need for an application. If you are going to download to a stick or other media, then check your system for the above rpm packages. I would be inclined to connect to the net to get updates as well from time to time. -- Robin Laing -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: talk about your gEDA/pcb
Daniel B. Thurman wrote: Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 9:23 PM, Kam Leo wrote: It's been years since I looked at gEDA. Back then (6-8 years ago) there was little integration among the tools. Is it still the case? By the way, I visited the gEDA.org and open collector sites and that's the impression that I's still getting. Why don't you try yum install geda* ? http://chitlesh.fedorapeople.org/FEL Chitlesh My basic problem is: where do I start? I installed this with the hopes of testing out my version of a X10 like circuit (active and discrete components), and yet I look at the Circuit menu and I get flabergasted - because I was not sure what to do. Do I open xcircuit first, laydown the components from a library menu, and then once done, how do I get from there to spice? Perhaps an idiot-proof tutorial would come in handy so that one can go from an idea (a simple circuit will do) all the way through the process to the end-product? I mean, from conception, to schematic, to spice analysis, to pcboard (end product)? I think this would be of benefit and in case there already is one, where please? :) Thanks! Dan I have worked through a tutorial on gEDA that didn't include spice. I have just tried this spice tutorial. http://www.johannes-bauer.com/electronics/ Note, that there is a slight problem with the examples on this page. The examples have a case issue for the netnames in Vin and Vout. I have emailed the author on this but have not gotten a reply. Of course could start at the gEDA site. http://geda.seul.org/index.html I have only started trying to work with spice and my first experience with computerized design was with Multisim on Windows 95. I would like to see the Linux tools move into a real time simulation like some of the commercial applications have. I came across this but I have yet to try it. http://easy-spice.sourceforge.net/examples.html Here is another gEDA and SPICE tutorial. It is old though. Again, I have not tried it. http://www.brorson.com/gEDA/SPICE/t1.html -- Robin Laing -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F10 install - RAID - nightmare (Solved)
Robin Laing wrote:
Hello,
The system is at home and so are all my notes.
Since I first started using RAID arrays, this is the first time I have
had problems with an install. I have been fighting this for over a
week. The machine was running F7 with RAID arrays.
I first tried to install F10 using a DVD that was checked by both
sha1sum and disk check on install including the RAID array.
The install is working without the RAID array.
After installing on the non-RAID drive, I started going through the
install to get the RAID working.
After much reading I found out that due to the problem install, I had to
zero the Superblocks. I did this and ensured that there was no
superblock data with mdadm --examine {partitions}.
Recreated the multiple RAID partitions.
I am using a 1.5T drive partitions into 8 usable partitions.
I created the 8 partitions using mdadm.
I created /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf with mdadm --examine --scan as per the
man page.
I am providing this in a hope that it will help someone either today or
in the future. Someone else success helped me. After 10 days I can say
I have a working F10 installation. Hey, 10 for 10. :)
To solve the issue I did a full re-install without the RAID array. I
have read reports about anaconda having issues with RAID arrays. After
making sure that the install was working well I started playing with the
RAID.
With no /etc/mdadm.conf, the system scanned and created inactive arrays.
md_d9 : inactive sdc9[0](S)
615723136 blocks
md_d8 : inactive sdc8[0](S)
104864192 blocks
md_d7 : inactive sdc7[0](S)
73408896 blocks
md_d6 : inactive sdc6[0](S)
73408896 blocks
md_d5 : inactive sdc5[0](S)
73408896 blocks
md_d3 : inactive sdc3[0](S)
209728448 blocks
md_d2 : inactive sdc2[0](S)
209728448 blocks
md_d1 : inactive sdc1[0](S)
104864192 blocks
I created a new /etc/mdadm.conf file with the two drives in it like this.
DEVICE /dev/sdb* /dev/sdc*
I then scanned the drives by using
mdadm --examine --scan
ARRAY /dev/md1 level=raid1 num-devices=2 \
UUID=512ebb9b:05c4c817:22ba247c:074b5b12
ARRAY /dev/md2 level=raid1 num-devices=2 \
UUID=bdd5f629:8788d740:b569c872:71bb0d9f
ARRAY /dev/md3 level=raid1 num-devices=2 \
UUID=649f208e:07a19b6b:119481b7:34c39216
ARRAY /dev/md5 level=raid1 num-devices=2 \
UUID=1a428b1f:5b8a7214:e195441f:012ae200
ARRAY /dev/md6 level=raid1 num-devices=2 \
UUID=f222563b:a73aba50:e34cb61b:312f8680
ARRAY /dev/md7 level=raid1 num-devices=2 \
UUID=dc04f2ee:11b76d67:77b1b096:0fea140a
ARRAY /dev/md8 level=raid1 num-devices=2 \
UUID=82bbc5d9:f612fb5b:15177e5c:b51a48df
ARRAY /dev/md9 level=raid1 num-devices=2 \
UUID=62c32558:310c027c:fdacac45:9b3ade78
I then ran
mdadm --examine --scan /etc/mdadm.conf
as suggested in the mdadm man page. This added the drives to mdadm.conf
I then ran
mdadm -As
which found and activated one of the two drives as shown with
cat /proc/mdstat
[r...@eagle2 etc]# cat /proc/mdstat
Personalities : [raid1]
md9 : active raid1 sdb9[1]
615723136 blocks [2/1] [_U]
md8 : active raid1 sdb8[1]
104864192 blocks [2/1] [_U]
md7 : active raid1 sdb7[1]
73408896 blocks [2/1] [_U]
md6 : active raid1 sdb6[1]
73408896 blocks [2/1] [_U]
md5 : active raid1 sdb5[1]
73408896 blocks [2/1] [_U]
md3 : active raid1 sdb3[1]
209728448 blocks [2/1] [_U]
md2 : active raid1 sdb2[1]
209728448 blocks [2/1] [_U]
md1 : active raid1 sdb1[1]
104864192 blocks [2/1] [_U]
md_d9 : inactive sdc9[0](S)
615723136 blocks
md_d8 : inactive sdc8[0](S)
104864192 blocks
md_d7 : inactive sdc7[0](S)
73408896 blocks
md_d6 : inactive sdc6[0](S)
73408896 blocks
md_d5 : inactive sdc5[0](S)
73408896 blocks
md_d3 : inactive sdc3[0](S)
209728448 blocks
md_d2 : inactive sdc2[0](S)
209728448 blocks
unused devices: none
I then ran
mdadm --stop /dev/md_d{x}
to stop all the inactive RAID devices as shown in the /proc/mdstat file.
I tried a reboot and only one of the two drives were starting. More
reading of bug reports and came across a discussion on adding
auto=md
to each line of the mdadm.conf file for each raid array.
Old
ARRAY /dev/md1 level=raid1 num-devices=2 \
UUID=512ebb9b:05c4c817:22ba247c:074b5b12
New
ARRAY /dev/md1 level=raid1 auto=md num-devices=2 \
UUID=512ebb9b:05c4c817:22ba247c:074b5b12
Now running
mdadm -As
gives this nice message.
mdadm: /dev/md1 has been started with 2 drives.
mdadm: /dev/md2 has been started with 2 drives.
mdadm: /dev/md3 has been started with 2 drives.
mdadm: /dev/md5 has been started with 2 drives.
mdadm: /dev/md6 has been started with 2 drives.
mdadm: /dev/md7 has been started with 2 drives.
mdadm: /dev/md8 has been started with 2 drives.
mdadm: /dev/md9 has been started with 2 drives.
Confirmed by
[r...@eagle2 etc]# cat /proc/mdstat
Personalities : [raid1]
md9 : active raid1 sdc9[0] sdb9[1]
615723136 blocks [2/2] [UU]
md8
Re: Firefox Running Slow in Linux
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Tue, 2009-02-03 at 20:53 -0600, Arthur Pemberton wrote: Not to over stretch this topic, but you have a Core2Duo with 4GB of RAM, so if you were seeing performance issues with Firefox, that would be it was _really_ slow as opposed to just slow. As I tried to explain, the performance was exactly the same when it only had 2GB (I upgraded quite recently). Additionally, using AdBlock actually makes it faster (for me). That's probably true for me as well. Also Flashblock stops downloading a lot of superfluous video (I'm on a 1Mbps DSL line). poc I have not followed this thread but last night when re-re-installing F10, there was a FF update and it got me thinking. Are the number of languages an issue still? I ask this as I was prompted to turn off a large list of languages. FWIW, I don't find FF slow on an old 1.4G machine. I just don't have that man plugins running. What does top say? -- Robin Laing -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
F10 install - RAID - nightmare
Hello,
The system is at home and so are all my notes.
Since I first started using RAID arrays, this is the first time I have
had problems with an install. I have been fighting this for over a
week. The machine was running F7 with RAID arrays.
I first tried to install F10 using a DVD that was checked by both
sha1sum and disk check on install including the RAID array.
The install is working without the RAID array.
After installing on the non-RAID drive, I started going through the
install to get the RAID working.
After much reading I found out that due to the problem install, I had to
zero the Superblocks. I did this and ensured that there was no
superblock data with mdadm --examine {partitions}.
Recreated the multiple RAID partitions.
I am using a 1.5T drive partitions into 8 usable partitions.
I created the 8 partitions using mdadm.
I created /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf with mdadm --examine --scan as per the
man page.
The RAID partitions mounted and I transferred data to the partitions. I
cannot remember if I did a reboot before I transferred data. I think I
did as I was trying to be careful.
I have read about a change in the way that the kernel and udev scan RAID
arrays that have caused other people problems and I am wondering if this
is my problem.
On a reboot yesterday, my mdadm.conf file was empty and my raid arrays
were not mounted. No data in 'cat /proc/mdadmstat'.
While I was fighting with this, I noticed that I would end up with md_d1
md_d26 ... type of partitions instead of the md1, md2, ... named
partitions. Now I am not sure if this is part of the fact that the
drive is partitioned or what. Should I be using md_d1 assignments
instead of md1 names as I am using partitions? I am not sure of this as
all I have read doesn't give me a good answer.
I can do an mdadm --examine --scan {partition} and I have confirmed the
details on the drives. One thing I noticed reading through the
mdadm.conf file last night is it states.
super-minor=
The value is an integer which indicates the minor
number that was stored in the superblock when the
array was created. When an array is created as
/dev/mdX, then the minor number X is stored.
In the scan, I noticed that the numbers didn't seem to correspond to the
mdX numbers. It was late and I didn't write it down. The mdX number
was in the scan data but not in the minor column.
I need to get this working. My wife doesn't want her laptop upgraded
from F7 due to this headache.
I have had some other strange things happen with F10 but those are not
directly related to this problem.
Both drives are new Seagate drives with the updated firmware to work
with RAID and Linux. One of the reasons that I held off on the install
until now.
Please help me as I need to get some sleep. ;-)
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F10 - boot - how to get into interactive boot?
Hello, Sure, I know to press 'I' but on two machines, it has been a nightmare. One machine it never worked. With faster machines, there is no time to press the button. I found it wouldn't work if the normal Fedora splash screen was up on the screen. I had to press escape to get it to work. If I pressed to soon, the keyboard wouldn't work at all. It all happened so fast. On the second machine, I never got it to work. This machine has encrypted partitions and the password prompt makes it harder. I can just get the Esc button pushed in time for the password to be requested. I then press 'I right after pressing 'Enter.' I get a whole bunch of 'I's before and after the notice but it still continues into udev and on into a normal boot. I never could get it to work. Is there a way to get into interactive mode from grub? When in the boot process is the keyboard input scanned for the Interactive? Before or after the message to press I? And is it a I or i? I have tried both. -- Robin Laing -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
F10 - fall back after disk e2fsck on boot scan issue.
Hello, This is the third issue that I have come across with F10 install problems. On a machine that had a failing HD, which was not being used, the machine froze. On a reboot, the system couldn't scan the USB drive that was connected at freeze but removed on reboot as well as other unmounted partitions. The drives were not in /etc/fstab so they shouldn't have been scanned but they were in /etc/mtab that was left over from the crash. On the reboot, the boot screen flashed past showing that it failed to check these drives and dropped into the repair (Right term?) prompt. I entered the root password and proceeded to try to remove the /etc/mtab entry. I couldn't as the / partition was mounted (ro). I checked with 'mount' and it stated that the partition was mounted (rw). I couldn't change the mount status, I couldn't unmount the partition, I couldn't scan or do anything from the prompt to the / partition. I had to use a Live CD to mount the partition and remove the /etc/mtab entry and reboot. The system booted correctly. Is this a bug that should be reported. I have duplicated this and will test it on a different install. Also on a related note, can e2fsck do a boot scan on the ext4 partitions? -- Robin Laing -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: is KDE dead - did Gnome win?
Armin wrote: On Monday 02 February 2009 13:54:00 Robin Laing wrote: Craig White wrote: On Fri, 2009-01-30 at 09:53 -0500, Kelly Miller wrote: On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 9:38 AM, Mail Lists li...@sapience.com wrote: \SNIP KDE 4.1 is pretty good. I am having some weird issues that I don't like but I have not had a chance to figure out all the changes. I hear 4.2 is so much better than 4.2 so I think I will be really happy. Of course that is after I change the menu back to the classic menu from the Vista like menu. Ok, honestly, I have been trying to find out what do you guys in kick-off that is like window$, but I have yet to find out. I don't see anything to be the same except that there are some things and you click on them. I find the way the menu is now into multi-levels in KDE to be like my experience with Vista and XP without the classic interface. To many clicks/mouse motions to get to where I want to be. I prefer the classic menu as it drops one more menu. My daughter prefers Gnome over KDE because KDE makes here think of Macs and she has had her fair share of nightmares with Mac's. that's the first time I'm hearing this. I wouldn't know how similar it is but those are her thoughts. I will try to convert her. :) I personally agree that I would rather be using the KDE on F10 than GNOME but not everyone who disagrees is inherently wrong. Craig I will drink to that. To each their own. The person that turned me onto KDE now uses Gnome but is thinking of checking it out again when 4.2 comes out. KDE 4.2 is already out and I'v been using it for 2 months now (from RC) and the final came out last tuesday. You can get it from kde-redhat repo. I don't have that repo but I will have to get it. -- Robin Laing -- Robin Laing -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Problem with totem
suvayu ali wrote: 2009/2/1 GMS S gms...@yahoo.com: After this when I trying to play a file like dbgt35.rmvb it starts playing the audio of that video file but it does not play the video .(black screen) I thought that file format was not supported either by gstreamer or xine? not even vlc! AFAIK that is a proprietary real media format. You would need RealPlayer for that. Beware though if you are running a 64 bit system, you might need to install a lot of 32 bit libraries as dependencies. RealPlayer doesn't have any 64 bit packages. Look at mplayer. It may work. -- Robin Laing -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Slooooow USB key speeds
Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu wrote: On Sun, 2009-02-01 at 18:14 -0500, Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu wrote: I'm starting to think something is not quite right with the USB key (or in the way it's being detected): I tested transferring files to my PSP, but didn't see any of the same speed issues. I was able to copy large files back and forth without any problems. More testing with my PSP and the USB stick has revealed large file transfers (e.g. 1 GB in size or more) destroy the transfer speed. Transfers start up fast (around 20 MBps), and after a few seconds begin to drop. The difference being the Kingston USB stick drops to 1 MBps or less, whereas the PSP is able to maintain a speed of around 6.5 MBps. Both devices connect at hi-speed (480 Mbps). Anyone know what's going on? Regards, Ranbir Different standards and quality. I have dealt with this in the past with Coursair sticks. Work great in Windows but some of them wouldn't mount normally in Linux. We have moved from Corsair to Xporter USB sticks. No issues that I have seen yet. As others have said, the controllers on the chips may have some buffering and able to put data out at a high speed to start but then max out. Remember that the standard is for maximum speed, not sustained speeds. Each USB stick has a controller that can reach it's maximum speed quite quickly. Also, some manufacturers have their High Speed sticks at a premium price. -- Robin Laing -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: is KDE dead - did Gnome win?
Craig White wrote: On Fri, 2009-01-30 at 09:53 -0500, Kelly Miller wrote: On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 9:38 AM, Mail Lists li...@sapience.com wrote: \SNIP the truth is though, that he is not the only one who switched from KDE to GNOME. It's about the expectations. When I installed F10 on the first machine, I tried Gnome and was so frustrated. I tried to switch to KDE but I couldn't get it to work but that was my fault. I didn't know about the session selector in GDM and was trying switch desktop function. After playing with Gnome, I found the same frustrations. Some nice improvements over the version in F7 but still reminded me of using MS Windows. No real control to improve the efficiency. KDE 4.1 is pretty good. I am having some weird issues that I don't like but I have not had a chance to figure out all the changes. I hear 4.2 is so much better than 4.2 so I think I will be really happy. Of course that is after I change the menu back to the classic menu from the Vista like menu. My daughter prefers Gnome over KDE because KDE makes here think of Macs and she has had her fair share of nightmares with Mac's. I personally agree that I would rather be using the KDE on F10 than GNOME but not everyone who disagrees is inherently wrong. Craig I will drink to that. To each their own. The person that turned me onto KDE now uses Gnome but is thinking of checking it out again when 4.2 comes out. -- Robin Laing -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Screen White-out
Kirk Ziegler wrote: Clicked on Enable Desktop Effects and my screen went white. I can see the cursor. I tried the rescue disk but it was no help. Any suggestions will be helpful. Thanks, Kirk Ziegler I thought of a blonde joke from the title. :) I read someplace and if my ageing brain is correct, try alt+shift+F12 -- Robin Laing -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F10+ Burn multiple discs concurrent from iso?
Frank Murphy wrote: Can any of the fedora supplied, GUI Burners, burn multiple copies concurrent. Looking at setting up a PC based Duplicator. Any controller card better than another Fedora POV? May 6 devices Internal. Frank I think you would be better off using a script and a CLI tool. It isn't that hard. It may actually work better as each burner, even if identical will have different properties and operating characteristics. But you ask a good question and it will be interesting to see. -- Robin Laing -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: RAM question for everyone!
Dan Track wrote: On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 4:07 PM, Mark Haney mha...@ercbroadband.org wrote: Bryn M. Reeves wrote: Mark Haney wrote: Dan Track wrote: I was recently asked a question about how much RAM should there be within a server given that the APP uses 8GB of Memory, should I buy 10Gig of memory and have a small harddrive and no swap space? Would this configuration allow everything in my OS to run from RAM and not from swap? If this is the case then there's no need to ever create swap, is there?!? Your thoughts are appreciated. Thanks Dan With RAM, the more the merrier. I guess the question is, what does this Unless you're on a 32-bit system in which case more RAM can make you much less merrier since the mere addition of the memory causes more pressure on the already constrained lowmem available on these platforms. Regards, Bryn. True, but the assumption was 64-bit since he says the app uses 8GB RAM. -- Thanks for the info, but if my only reads from disk and will not grow beyond 8GB is it true to say that I have no need for swap space if I install 10GB or more of RAM? Dan This is an interesting discussion. From what I read, I would put in at least 10GB of ram in what ever arrangement the system will allow. I would also create a swap partition of 4-10G and enable it. If you don't need it then you can turn it off. If it doesn't affect performance, then you can leave it on. Swap will only be used if it needs to be. And if the server is critical, then at least there is a buffer if there is a problem. I have 8 Gig ram and an 8 Gig swap. Some times I work with 6 and 8 Gig graphic files so the swap comes into play. If I don't work with large files for some time, I don't see any swap usage at all. I have never done it but I understand that you can create a swap file and use that so you could get by without creating a swap partition. It is a simple process of turning it on or off. -- Robin Laing -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: network traffic analyzer
Michael Cronenworth wrote: Original Message Subject: Re: network traffic analyzer From: Peter Larsen plar...@famlarsen.homelinux.com To: Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora. fedora-list@redhat.com Date: 01/23/2009 06:44 AM nagious is way too much for what I want. I only have three hosts on the LAN side, but my server is an actual web server with thousands of views a day. I don't care about the stuff nagious presents. I only want real time, such as darkstat's real time view, throughput measurement. I guess I'll have to make my own if there are no other ideas. Thanks. Have you looked at Ganglia? http://ganglia.info/ I have only seen it used for clusters but it may be useful. -- Robin Laing -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
