Re: Email Hosting Recommendations?
2010/1/3 BeartoothHOS bearto...@comcast.net: On Sat, 02 Jan 2010 22:06:05 +, Sam Sharpe wrote: [] If you want to pay for Support, then something like here: http://www.rackspace.com/email_hosting/rackspace_email (Full Disclosure: I work in another division of that Company) Do they support Alpine?? It supports POP3 and IMAP, so I can't see why not. Several million people at last count (I for one) still consider it the only mailer worth installing. I always get rid of any others -- especially any form of webmail, which I happen to detest with a passion. Rackspace seems to take webmail for granted, though -- always and only webmail. They do say at one point ... or any other POP/IMAP client. But it doesn't sound very convincing in context. Considering that one of Mailtrust's (the Rackspace Division that does this) employees is the lead developer of Dovecot, I would expect it to work. http://www.rackspace.com/email_hosting/blog/2009/02/creator_of_dovecot_joins_mailt/ -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Email Hosting Recommendations?
2010/1/2 Kevin Kempter kev...@consistentstate.com: I'm looking for a good email hosting solution for 5-10 users. Were mostly Linux Desktop users with a few Mac's. Any suggestions? If you want to pay for Support, then something like here: http://www.rackspace.com/email_hosting/rackspace_email (Full Disclosure: I work in another division of that Company) If you don't want Support, why not something like Google Apps for Domains? That's what I use... (I also have Macs in the house) -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: What to install to get a BCM4312 up and running on F12
2009/12/31 Randy Yates ya...@ieee.org: I'm trying to help someone get their netbook wireless up. Is there a package(s) that would accomplish this? Also, is there a how to on this somewhere that's up-to-date for F12? Ahhh yes... I think I might understand the IRC ban now... Is this not the same question you asked about 7 hours ago? -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Where did my penguins go? - THAT'S LIFE
2009/12/31 Robert G. (Doc) Savage dsav...@peaknet.net: The nouveau driver is a big improvement over nv, but it apparently lacks the ability to display core penguins after the startmenu. As I speculated in my original post, this seems to be an artifact of the nouveau driver. Considering the alternatives, I can accept that. Global Warming - it's destroying the Penguin's habitats. Ask Al Gore... he'll back me up. -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Where did my penguins go? - THAT'S LIFE
2009/12/31 Gene Heskett gene.hesk...@verizon.net: On Thursday 31 December 2009, Sam Sharpe wrote: 2009/12/31 Robert G. (Doc) Savage dsav...@peaknet.net: The nouveau driver is a big improvement over nv, but it apparently lacks the ability to display core penguins after the startmenu. As I speculated in my original post, this seems to be an artifact of the nouveau driver. Considering the alternatives, I can accept that. Global Warming - it's destroying the Penguin's habitats. Ask Al Gore... he'll back me up. -- Sam Chuckle. Careful there Sam, that sort of satire is catching. Unforch, there may be a grain of truth to it. May I be the first (as I live at the centre of Time) to wish you all a Happy New Year. Lets hope Global Warming means I can get a nice tan this year ;o) -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Name of fedora lists - you're kidding right?
2009/12/30 Patrick O'Callaghan pocallag...@gmail.com: On Wed, 2009-12-30 at 13:20 -0500, Todd Zullinger wrote: IMO, the current description should be changed, but I'd prefer to not see a lengthy debate on the list about it. My 2c: The Fedora users list My 2p Fedora Users us...@lists.fedoraproject.org -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: list server got slower ?
2009/12/28 Mail Lists li...@sapience.com: If each message takes 15 mins to process that would be a maximum of 96 messages per day outgoing ... sounds like a potential problem no? Only if message delivery was a blocking, serial process - it isn't. Even if it took a message 15 minutes, to get from input to output, there's nothing that says you can't be submitting a constant stream of messages up to the bandwidth of the input pipe - it would take 15 minutes for your stream to get to the output (high latency!), but once it got there it could be spitting out messages at the same rate as the input. It would however mean that if the delay holds true, then you'd be able to get about 50 back/forth exchanges on any thread/topic a day - which is certainly more than most threads get on this particular list. -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: list server got slower ?
2009/12/28 Mail Lists li...@sapience.com: However, if things go slow enough there is a potential problem that the lists may overwhelm the outgoing MX servers. The observation I had is simply that the delay (which is in the outgoing MX) has increased from 1-2 mins to 10 possibly higher. It is the change in the delay that I thought was of interest. That's the point I was trying to make. Higher latency does not necessarily mean throughput goes down, it may in fact go up - That's fundamental to a lot of engineering disciplines. Lets take the example of mail-servers sending out similar messages, to keep this on-topic. We have two possible delivery methods (there are more obviously): A) We can either send out each message in the order it is queued, one message at a time. B) We can hold each message a while and wait to see if the same message comes in for a different recipient on the same mailserver - and then send them both in the same SMTP transaction. Strategy (A) has the lowest latency. Strategy (B) has a higher latency, as it will take a while to fill the buffer and pop out the same message. Ultimately with millions of messages in the pipeline, Strategy (B) will have a higher throughput, because it is more efficient to queue multiple mails together. So my point being, an increase in Latency is not something to be concerned about. What intrigues me is that people seem to have some kind of expectation of immediate email delivery. Last I looked, email wasn't defined as a reliable transmission method with any kind of time guarantee. -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Compiling mysql-5.1.41 in Fedora 12
Hello, The clue is in the libtool compilation line: 2009/12/27 Kurian Thayil kurianmtha...@gmail.com: ../extra/yassl/taocrypt/src/libtaocrypt.la yes -lpthread snip g++: yes: No such file or directory You need to investigate why you have the word yes there, as there isn't a file called yes to be linked in... -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How many people need to use the proprietary nvidia driver ? (Or other non kms driver ?)
2009/12/23 Linuxguy123 linuxguy...@gmail.com: Please reply if you need to ( ie must) use the proprietary nvidia driver instead of the nouveau driver. Define must. I use the driver from rpmfusion, not because I must, but because I choose to. I have dual monitors at work, driven by an NVidia NVS 290. It does work on F12 with nouveau as I tried it. But I lose 3D acceleration which I like (not need) because I find that some of the Compiz effects actually speed my workflow. (things like window previews are reasonably useful when you have tens of terminals or browser windows open) I would say that I need to use the proprietary driver, because it improves my work - but there is no technical necessity. If you are using the proprietary nvidia driver or some other non kms equipped driver, how are you finding F12 ? Ie do you experience freezing when you access some panel items ? I have no problems in this area. I find the rpmfusion provided driver more stable for what I want to do than nouveau. -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: RFE? Or am I wasting my time?
2009/12/21 Alan Evans ame.fed...@gmail.com: So I thought to file a RFE about it except: What component would it be against? Its location in the menu suggests that it's some sort of Nautilus extension, but I can't figure what package its in. It's in file-roller: [...@samlap Desktop]$ rpm -qif /usr/lib64/nautilus/extensions-2.0/libnautilus-fileroller.so Name: file-roller Relocations: (not relocatable) Version : 2.28.1Vendor: Fedora Project Release : 2.fc12Build Date: Fri 30 Oct 2009 03:38:18 GMT Install Date: Sat 31 Oct 2009 13:14:05 GMT Build Host: x86-4.fedora.phx.redhat.com Group : Applications/ArchivingSource RPM: file-roller-2.28.1-2.fc12.src.rpm Size: 4827862 License: GPLv2+ Signature : (none) Packager: Fedora Project URL : http://download.gnome.org/sources/file-roller/ Summary : Tool for viewing and creating archives Description : File Roller is an application for creating and viewing archives files, such as tar or zip files. Am I the only person in the world that cares? I mean, would it just be a waste of time for my to file a RFE that's inevitably going to be ignored or closed NOTABUG? I didn't actually notice until you pointed it out and while I don't actually care either way, your reasoning makes sense - which is a valid argument for an RFE. -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Booting Fedora-12 from hard disk, again, again
2009/12/20 Timothy Murphy gayle...@eircom.net: I'm taking the liberty of re-posting this query, as there seemed some problems with the previous posting, hopefully now resolved: Has anyone actually succeeded in booting Fedora-12 from the DVD ISO file on the hard disk, by adding a stanza to grub.conf ? I carried out the following commands: - [...@alfred ~]$ sudo mkdir /mnt/Fedora [...@alfred ~]$ sudo mount -o loop Fedora-12-i386-DVD.iso /mnt/Fedora/ So that means Fedora-12-i386-DVD.iso is in /home/tim/ Now when I boot into this, all goes well until I try to install from Fedora-12*.iso when I the error Device /dev/sda6 does not appear to contain an installation image. Am I doing something wrong? I don't know for certain, but the only time I've ever tried this was on RHEL and the ISO file had to be on the root of the partition. So I think that means you should try moving it to /home/Fedora-12-i386-DVD.iso on the assumption that /dev/sda6 is /home -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: G11 keyboard
2009/12/21 Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com: I have the Logitech G11 gaming keyboard, which I really want for filling in frequently used terms, not gaming, and there doesn't seem to be a good way to get the programable keys enabled. I would settle for turning them on, being able to program them from the computer would be a bonus, but I can do it by hand if I can enable them at all. I have a Logitech G15, because I like the little display in the middle. It doesn't improve my typing speed. There's reference to a package g15macro, but it's intended for other similar hardware, etc, and before I spend the time working on it (I got the source) for Fedora and a different keyboard I thought I'd ask if someone has a canned solution, like another program or rpm for g15macro which works. http://www.g15tools.com/Welcome.html - says it supports G11's as well. -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: To Timothy Murphy
2009/12/19 Andras Simon sza...@gmail.com: On 12/19/09, Tim ignored_mail...@yahoo.com.au wrote: On Sat, 2009-12-19 at 00:14 -0500, Marcel Rieux wrote: All your messages at gmail end up in my spam folder with the following mention: Warning: This message may not be from whom it claims to be. Beware of following any links in it or of providing the sender with any personal information. Learn more A different Tim, here, but that might be due to him posting through the gmane usenet to email gateway (it gives me problems, too; different problems, though). You could have a look through the headers of one of his mails, and see if there's something in there you can use to tell your mail filter that those messages aren't spam. I don't think you can tweak gmail's spam filter. Not directly, anyway. I always check Timothy Murphy's mails that gmail labels as spam as not spam, hoping to teach it that they're not. They're not being tagged as Spam, they are being tagged as Phishing. I didn't actually realise I was missing anything until I checked my Spam folder in GoogleApps. I have selected from the dropdown Report Not Phishing on the 15 emails I found - that probably has a better chance of retraining Gmail than marking simply as Not Spam. Cheers, Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: SMS client for linux?
2009/12/16 Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net: Once upon a time, L yuan...@gmail.com said: I have a vodafone wireless broadband dongle. This prepaid package comes with 15 free SMS. NM on F12 is great to connect it. my question is that, is there a tool to send/receive SMS on linux? The vodafone connect kit for windows includes a SMS client to send and receive SMS. I don't want waste 15 SMS, Could any one know an equivalent tool for linux? Gnokii is a cell phone tool that can send and receive SMS, if your cell interface presents a serial port to Linux (my phone for example presents two). It takes a little bit of configuration in /etc/gnokiirc but works okay. This isn't a cell-phone its a standalone dongle for just 3G/HSPDA connections. That's not to say that gnokii or Gammu won't do this. Would this help? http://www.vodafonebetavine.net/bvportal/resources/datacards -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Help: No internet connection
2009/12/14 Simon Schneebeli simon.schneeb...@okko.org: /usr/lib/python2.6/config/Makefile [...@samlap ~]$ sudo yum provides /usr/lib/python2.6/config/Makefile python-devel-2.6.2-2.fc12.i686 : The libraries and header files needed for : Python development. Repo: fedora Matched from: Filename: /usr/lib/python2.6/config/Makefile You'll need to install this package first ^ -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Posts getting ignored (was F10 rpm of grub2 completely broken)
2009/12/14 Mikkel mik...@infinity-ltd.com: On 12/14/2009 11:11 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: Your treatment of redhat/fedora users with over a decade of use has finally reached the quitting point. You refuse to fix openssh, hoping that would force me to install F12, and when I do and have problems, its go pound sand. Do you think maybe the way you post, and the hassles of trying to work with you to try and solve problems, might have something to do with your posts being low priority on the list? Actually I quite like most of Gene's output - he's cranky and he likes guns - what's not to like? What stopped me from digging into this particular post was: 1) I can't help on this issue (and I've been a bit busy lately). 2) The word you cropping up repeatedly. I think there's a misconception here that addressing fedora-list is addressing the people who make Fedora. That's not necessarily the case, and by using the word you the blame is implicitly being transferred (probably through frustration or some kind of monthly cycle ;o) to everyone who isn't called Gene Heskett, when probably a large proportion of list members have no more input into the source of Gene's frustration than he does himself. I don't think most people like being blamed for something that isn't their problem, which doesn't incline them to help out. I don't speak for any kind of majority, but my contribution to making Fedora is pretty much zilch. I file the occasional bug, I help out other users where I can, but I'm not currently a Fedora Developer or Fedora Packager. However, I do consider myself part of the greater Fedora Community and I exclusively use Fedora at work and at home (well, at work I have RHEL as well, but it's not my choice on the servers ;o) Fedora is very definitely a Community and perhaps the best way to address this would have been: # I have this problem - can anyone help? # I still have this problem, is there any more information I can provide? # I still have this problem, how do I report it to people that *can* help? Even if the end result is that no help is forthcoming, that's unfortunately the way the cookie crumbles - you get the guarantees you pay for... Ranting about it unfortunately doesn't go anywhere. Also, I thought Linux Mint was a nice niche distro. It's not Fedora and I didn't feel I could dig into it as much as I do with Fedora, but it worked out of the box on an EEEPC I used to have at a time when F8 and F9 wouldn't - so it has it's place - just not in my heart. At least it's from the right side of the Atlantic ;o) -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: mirrors.fedoraproject.org problem?
2009/12/15 Kevin Martin kevi...@ameritech.net: Is there a problem right now with mirrors.fedoraproject.org? I can't access any mirrors. A random selection of the mirrors on that page work fine for me... -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: mirrors.fedoraproject.org problem?
2009/12/15 Kevin Martin kevi...@ameritech.net: Itamar Reis Peixoto wrote: On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 11:29 PM, Kevin Martin kevi...@ameritech.net wrote: Is there a problem right now with mirrors.fedoraproject.org? I can't access any mirrors. Thanks Kevin same problem for me, I have created a ipv6 tunnel and worked fine. I can't get to the page either via yum or via the browser. However, I can connect to other websites with no problem. Very strange. Fedora Proj were moving *stuff* between Data Centres over the weekend - is it possible the IP has changed and your DNS hasn't updated? Where are you going? [...@samlap ~]$ host mirrors.fedoraproject.org mirrors.fedoraproject.org is an alias for wildcard.fedoraproject.org. wildcard.fedoraproject.org has address 80.239.156.215 wildcard.fedoraproject.org has address 152.46.7.222 wildcard.fedoraproject.org has address 66.35.62.166 wildcard.fedoraproject.org has IPv6 address 2610:28:200:1::fed0:2 -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Help: No internet connection
2009/12/13 simon.schneeb...@okko.org: Quoting Aaron Konstam akons...@sbcglobal.net: On Sun, 2009-12-13 at 13:35 -0700, simon.schneeb...@okko.org wrote: Hello all, My problem is definitively not linked to the fedora-webpage being down. Meanwhile I made some progress: At my brothers place I managed to connect to the internet with no problem. All programmes worked, so I could add all the additional programs I needed and install the latest updates. Now, back home, my problem is the following: - DOES NOT WORK: Firefox, Thunderbird, Evolution (error connecting to the server) - DOES WORK: Opera, Sype, Software update, Ping. It would be nice to have an expanded version of DoES NOT WORK What happens when you try Firrefox, for example? Firefox: I immediately get the message Server not found, Firefox can't find the server at [webpage]. Thunderbird: failed to connect to server [name of server] Evolution: Error while fetching mail. RPM: Couldn't resolve host To mention again: These messages appear immediately, not only after some seconds like the server doesn't answer... What strikes me about that list is the ones that don't work are NetworkManager aware - I wonder if NetworkManager is telling them the connection is offline. Do you have a NetworkManager icon in your systray? Does it show your network connection? How are you setting up your connection? What's different between your network when at your Brother's house? More info please... -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Help: No internet connection
2009/12/13 simon.schneeb...@okko.org: Q What strikes me about that list is the ones that don't work are NetworkManager aware - I wonder if NetworkManager is telling them the connection is offline. Do you have a NetworkManager icon in your systray? Does it show your network connection? How are you setting up your connection? What's different between your network when at your Brother's house? More info please... As mentioned in my first e-mail, Opera works fine (I use it to send these e-mails) as does Skype. I don't think (but as I don't use it I'd welcome corrections) that Opera gets information about whether the connection is up from NetworkManager. As for the differences between the network at home and at my brothers place: It's another service provider, another modem, but I don't know any details. What kind of modem? DSL, Cable, 3G/HSPDA? How are you connected? Wireless, Wired etc. I think we need a lot more information about your network setup before we can help ;o) -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Help: No internet connection
2009/12/12 Patrick O'Callaghan pocallag...@gmail.com: There have been several postings from Fedora people indicating that the project web site is going to be down for 48 hours for a physical move. Firefox out of the box on a fresh Fedora install uses this as the default start page. If you can get to other web sites, it's probably not a problem with your system. The scheduled outage is a due to start about 20 minutes from now, so it seems unlikely to be the problem. Really? The message I saw said that the websites were going down for about two hours starting at: date -d '2009-12-11 02:00:00 UTC' By my reckoning, that was about 44 hours, 48 minutes ago... so it should be long done by now. The original message on this topic was posted at 11 December 2009 22:08 UTC+1 - so unless Simon waited 17 hours before posting, I'd still agree with you that this probably isn't the cause of his particular problem. -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Help: No internet connection
2009/12/12 Patrick O'Callaghan pocallag...@gmail.com: On Sat, 2009-12-12 at 22:53 +, Sam Sharpe wrote: 2009/12/12 Patrick O'Callaghan pocallag...@gmail.com: There have been several postings from Fedora people indicating that the project web site is going to be down for 48 hours for a physical move. Firefox out of the box on a fresh Fedora install uses this as the default start page. If you can get to other web sites, it's probably not a problem with your system. The scheduled outage is a due to start about 20 minutes from now, so it seems unlikely to be the problem. Really? Yes, really. The message I saw said that the websites were going down for about two hours starting at: date -d '2009-12-11 02:00:00 UTC' By my reckoning, that was about 44 hours, 48 minutes ago... so it should be long done by now. Except that there was another message announcing the outage for 2009-12-12. See https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2009-December/msg8.html Ahh... I'm not a fedora-announce subscriber - so I only saw the message cross-posted to this list - sorry! ... but that announcement was for 11:00 UTC 12/12/2009 - which is still well before your message saying it started in 20 minutes (which I received at 23:09 UTC) but well after Simon's reported problems. Also, reading the attached f-i ticket, it says that non-wiki fedoraproject.org websites will be up - which would tend to indicate that start.fedoraproject.org will stay up - so it's even less likely to be the source of the probem ;o) -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Sudo and gtksu
2009/12/10 davide lists4dav...@gmail.com: Il Thu, 10 Dec 2009 01:17:58 +, Sam Sharpe ha scritto: If you're on F12, then add yourself to the desktop_admin_r group that will be in /etc/group. done. That allows you to authenticate with your own password to most of the PolKit dialogs, which is pretty much what you are looking for. I believe a simplified GUI for setting this up is in the works, because while the granularity of the old PolKit interface was lovely, it was a bit over the top for most users. Actually, dialogs ask my root password. Shall I delete the root user? You got right, I just want to enter my password in PolKit dialogs. (I trust Fedora delevoper for the moment, I dont need to change PolKit configuration about actions) Did you logout and login again? What's the output of `id`? Mine says: [...@samlap ~]$ id uid=removed(sam) gid=100(users) groups=10(wheel),74(sshd),100(users),485(desktop_user_r),486(desktop_admin_r),498(pulse-rt),501(libvirt) I definitely get asked for my password in the PolKit dialogs after this change. -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F12 XFCE spin on eeepc 901
2009/12/11 fred smith fre...@fcshome.stoneham.ma.us: in either case it then insists it has to install kernel 2.6.31.6-166.fc12.i686. however letting it install the kernel doesn't fix the problem. after the kernel installation, it still boots the old kernel, so neither the kmod-staging nor the rt2860 driver will work because they're for the newer kernel. I'm not totally convinced that this is gonna work, because I believe the persistence gets overlaid on top of the regular liveusb filesystem *after* the (old) kernel has booted. You may need to copy the kernel and initramfs to the root of the livecd and fiddle with the bootloader. how does booting a live-cd-on-a-usb-stick actually work? How is it SUPPOSED to work? I've got 2 or more gigs of persistence here, so it should be possible to install a kernel and have it boot. but I can't figure it out. look for syslinux.conf of isolinux.conf - usually in a folder of the same name. Unless I'm well out of date, the bootloader for a liveusb is SysLinux, not grub -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Sound volumes giving you fits?
2009/12/9 Jud Craft craft...@gmail.com: On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 8:21 AM, Eric Mesa wrote: THANK YOU SO MUCH for the info on how to fix PulseAudio. My ears have been blasted to the point of pain when using my ear-covering studio headphones and Fedora suddenly decided to go full volume on a rock song. I will implement your fix when I get home today. Flat volumes are extremely inconvenient and a little buggy in F11, but they actually do work much better in F12. Pulse remembers your maximum volume, doesn't let applications jump stuff to 100%, and keeps application volumes relative to each other, even when you close apps and change the volumes. I think it's improved a lot in F12. It has, but when I close Totem it still spikes the volume of whatever I was listening to momentarily and blows my eardrums out. I thought it was just me, so I learnt to live with it, but Michael's fix is exactly what I was too lazy to Google for ;o) -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Sudo and gtksu
2009/12/10 suvayu ali fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com: 2009/12/8 davide lists4dav...@gmail.com: Il Tue, 08 Dec 2009 17:05:18 -0800, suvayu ali ha scritto: why dont you use polkit? it gives you more control than gksudo, and much more secure. I'll do. I just know now about it being the Right Thing. ;-) Any pointer? For the command line you can setup sudo as you wish. (PASSWORD or NOPASSWORD) For gui stuff, just look at all the keys in the dialog for polkit (or gnome-polkit, I don't recall exactly. Not on a Fedora machine right now). Some of the keys are named rather non-intuitively, so you may have to fool around a bit. I also seem to recall some discussions on this on fedora-list within the last 6 months. I don't recall the name of the thread though. So searching the archives will also help. If you're on F12, then add yourself to the desktop_admin_r group that will be in /etc/group. That allows you to authenticate with your own password to most of the PolKit dialogs, which is pretty much what you are looking for. I believe a simplified GUI for setting this up is in the works, because while the granularity of the old PolKit interface was lovely, it was a bit over the top for most users. -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Selinux problems
2009/12/8 James Allsopp jamesaalls...@googlemail.com: Hi, I keep getting this SELinux issue, This is a new install of Fedora 12, and I just copied all of my home directory back to this machine from an external after install. I've tried running restorecon /home but no change. What about the following restorecon flag? -R -r change files and directories file labels recursively -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: kernel-2.6.31.6-162.fc12.x86_64 causes kernel panic
2009/12/7 Paul Smith phh...@gmail.com: Dear All, Have you noticed this bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=545043 Nope. Just updated and rebooted to check: [...@samlap ~]$ uname -a Linux samlap.fireburst.co.uk 2.6.31.6-162.fc12.x86_64 #1 SMP Fri Dec 4 00:06:26 EST 2009 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux Funny modules loaded? Failure of dracut to build a correct initrd? Run out of space on /boot? [...@samlap ~]$ ls -al /boot/*162* -rw-r--r-- 1 root root97986 2009-12-04 05:19 /boot/config-2.6.31.6-162.fc12.x86_64 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 11286959 2009-12-07 22:17 /boot/initramfs-2.6.31.6-162.fc12.x86_64.img -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1870388 2009-12-04 05:19 /boot/System.map-2.6.31.6-162.fc12.x86_64 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 3423712 2009-12-04 05:19 /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.31.6-162.fc12.x86_64 -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: packagegit authentication
2009/12/2 Sam Varshavchik mr...@courier-mta.com: In previous versions of Fedora there was a tool in the Administration menu that allowed me to configure authorization. There was a convenient list of all system activities, and whether or not a root password is required. Unless I'm hallucinating, I remember doing it before. You are not hallucinating. I read somewhere (and if anyone can tell me where, I'd be grateful) that there were big changes and simplifications planned in PolicyKit. That interface seems to have been removed and replaced with two roles in /etc/group - see here: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-desktop-list/2009-August/msg00103.html Even knowing that the roles/groups are desktop_admin_r (which I only know because my user is in it), doesn't give me any clues as to where I read about it. Maybe someone else's google-fu is better than mine today... -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Across Lite for F12 32-bit, an i686 vs i386 issue?
2009/11/30 Patrick O'Callaghan pocallag...@gmail.com: On Sun, 2009-11-29 at 08:47 -0800, Joel Gomberg wrote: On 11/29/2009 05:41 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: My name is Patrick and I'm a crossword puzzle addict. The NYT publishes its puzzles in Across Lite format, and there's a proprietary app (acrossl) which runs on Linux. Unfortunately it's getting really old and is binary-only. It worked under F11 but now the app gets a segfault on my netbook (though oddly it works fine on my 64-bit desktop, also on F12). I downloaded http://www.nytimes.com/downloads/acllinux.smotif.tar.gz [...@nc10 acl]$ ./acrossl bash: ./acrossl: /lib/ld-linux.so.1: bad ELF interpreter: No such file or directory [...@nc10 acl]$ sudo ln -s /lib/ld-linux.so.2 /lib/ld-linux.so.1 [...@nc10 acl]$ ./acrossl ./acrossl: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory [...@nc10 acl]$ sudo ln -s /lib/libc.so.6 /lib/libc.so.5 [...@nc10 acl]$ ./acrossl ./acrossl: error while loading shared libraries: libXpm.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory [...@nc10 acl]$ sudo yum install libXpm [...@nc10 acl]$ ./acrossl ./acrossl: error while loading shared libraries: libg++.so.27: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory ... that's unresolvable - I have no idea where to get libg++.so.27 or anything close to it. So I switched to: http://www.nytimes.com/downloads/acllinux.dmotif.tar.gz [...@nc10 acl]$ ./acrossl ./acrossl: error while loading shared libraries: libXm.so.2.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory [...@nc10 acl]$ sudo yum install lesstif-devel [...@nc10 acl]$ sudo ln -s /usr/lib/libXm.so.2 /usr/lib/libXm.so.2.0 [...@nc10 acl]$ ./acrossl ./acrossl: error while loading shared libraries: libg++.so.27: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory So whatever I try, I get to that unresolvable libg++ dependency - so I think you are bang out of luck :o( -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Assistance finding out what process is writing to the disk drive
2009/11/30 John Nissley jniss...@nissley.org: I have a Fedora 11 server running 2.6.30.9-96.fc11.x86_64. I recently noticed that my hard drive light is on constantly and was wondering how I can determine what is accessing the hard disk so much. After boot the hard disk is acting normally for a few minutes to a few hours and then the hard drive light is lit up constantly. I have tried ps -ef to see if there was anything running that I do not know about and there is not. Is there any way for me to determine which process is consistently using the hard disk? Yep, # yum install iotop # iotop Recent kernels include per-process IO accounting, so you should be able to tell what is waking up your disk by watching the iotop output. -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: rkhunter warning after updating
2009/11/30 Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com: On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 10:09:26 +0100 François Patte francois.pa...@mi.parisdescartes.fr wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bonjour, I updated my f10 this week-end (last update before f10 desappearing...) and today rkhunter sends these warnings: Warning: Application 'exim', version '4.69', is out of date, and possibly a security risk. Warning: Application 'gpg', version '1.4.9', is out of date, and possibly a security risk. Warning: Application 'httpd', version '2.2.11', is out of date, and possibly a security risk. Warning: Application 'named', version '9.5.2', is out of date, and possibly a security risk. Warning: Application 'openssl', version '0.9.8g', is out of date, and possibly a security risk. Warning: Application 'php', version '5.2.9', is out of date, and possibly a security risk. Warning: Application 'sshd', version '5.1p1', is out of date, and possibly a security risk. ??? What can I do else? Upgrade to f12? I don't want to do this now. Are f10 packages so obsolete? Disable the application checks. I am going to likely push out a new rkhunter package that does this soon. The problem is that upstream pushes out a dat file with the versions of those packages that are up to date and proof against known security issues. Fedora often backports fixes for stable releases, so the version isn't very good as an indicator when you are safe or not. That's good info. I had a customer today who suddenly got these warnings from his rkhunter install (on RHEL) - so I'm guessing this is a recent dat file upgrade. I might tell him to disable the application checks too ;o) -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Across Lite for F12 32-bit, an i686 vs i386 issue?
2009/11/30 Patrick O'Callaghan pocallag...@gmail.com: On Mon, 2009-11-30 at 20:15 +, Sam Sharpe wrote: 2009/11/30 Patrick O'Callaghan pocallag...@gmail.com: On Sun, 2009-11-29 at 08:47 -0800, Joel Gomberg wrote: On 11/29/2009 05:41 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: My name is Patrick and I'm a crossword puzzle addict. The NYT publishes its puzzles in Across Lite format, and there's a proprietary app (acrossl) which runs on Linux. Unfortunately it's getting really old and is binary-only. It worked under F11 but now the app gets a segfault on my netbook (though oddly it works fine on my 64-bit desktop, also on F12). I downloaded http://www.nytimes.com/downloads/acllinux.smotif.tar.gz [...@nc10 acl]$ ./acrossl bash: ./acrossl: /lib/ld-linux.so.1: bad ELF interpreter: No such file or directory [...@nc10 acl]$ sudo ln -s /lib/ld-linux.so.2 /lib/ld-linux.so.1 [...@nc10 acl]$ ./acrossl ./acrossl: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory [...@nc10 acl]$ sudo ln -s /lib/libc.so.6 /lib/libc.so.5 [...@nc10 acl]$ ./acrossl ./acrossl: error while loading shared libraries: libXpm.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory [...@nc10 acl]$ sudo yum install libXpm [...@nc10 acl]$ ./acrossl ./acrossl: error while loading shared libraries: libg++.so.27: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory ... that's unresolvable - I have no idea where to get libg++.so.27 or anything close to it. So I switched to: http://www.nytimes.com/downloads/acllinux.dmotif.tar.gz [...@nc10 acl]$ ./acrossl ./acrossl: error while loading shared libraries: libXm.so.2.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory [...@nc10 acl]$ sudo yum install lesstif-devel [...@nc10 acl]$ sudo ln -s /usr/lib/libXm.so.2 /usr/lib/libXm.so.2.0 [...@nc10 acl]$ ./acrossl ./acrossl: error while loading shared libraries: libg++.so.27: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory So whatever I try, I get to that unresolvable libg++ dependency - so I think you are bang out of luck :o( This is a completely different error from what I'm reporting. You're getting this because a library is missing. This has been that way for the last several releases of Fedora and I've always managed to resolve it by installing a compatibility library. In fact, to emphasize what I thought was clear already, the acrossl binary has no missing components. Here it is: $ ldd /usr/local/bin/acrossl linux-gate.so.1 = (0x00c87000) libXm.so.2 = /usr/lib/libXm.so.2 (0x00d1f000) libXt.so.6 = /usr/lib/libXt.so.6 (0x07d13000) libXext.so.6 = /usr/lib/libXext.so.6 (0x0080d000) libX11.so.6 = /usr/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x005d7000) libXp.so.6 = /usr/lib/libXp.so.6 (0x0011) libXpm.so.4 = /usr/lib/libXpm.so.4 (0x00118000) libstdc++.so.2.8 = /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.2.8 (0x0084) libm.so.6 = /lib/libm.so.6 (0x00389000) libc.so.6 = /lib/libc.so.6 (0x003b3000) libSM.so.6 = /usr/lib/libSM.so.6 (0x00b3a000) libICE.so.6 = /usr/lib/libICE.so.6 (0x00994000) libfreetype.so.6 = /usr/lib/libfreetype.so.6 (0x00254000) libxcb.so.1 = /usr/lib/libxcb.so.1 (0x005b7000) libdl.so.2 = /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x00366000) libXau.so.6 = /usr/lib/libXau.so.6 (0x005b2000) /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x001cd000) libuuid.so.1 = /lib/libuuid.so.1 (0x0094b000) $ The trouble is, on 32-bit F12 it segfaults and on 64-bit F12 it works. Note that it's a 32-bit binary. Mmmm... I think my point, seeing as I was starting from a clean 32bit Fedora installation is that there are multiple points where the compatibility libraries no longer exist. My example would be libc.so.5 which I cheated by symlinking to libc.so.6 - that's not a particularly valid thing to do. What I don't understand is where the version you have comes from. The README file I got with the version I downloaded clearly states that it is linked against libg++.so.27 - but I have no such library or anything close - I'd be curious if you do... [...@nc10 acl]$ cat README | grep -B11 -A3 libg++ The program is dynamically linked to the following libraries which must exist in a path searched by the loader in order to run the program: libXt.so.6 (X11R6 tested with 6.0 libraries) libXext.so.6 libX11.so.6 libc.so.5 (tested with 5.2.18) libSM.so.6 libICE.so.6 libXpm.so.4 (tested with 4.7) libg++.so.27(tested with 27.1.0 which is actually 2.7.1.0) libstdc++.so.27 libm.so.5 (tested with 5.0.5) -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Across Lite for F12 32-bit, an i686 vs i386 issue?
2009/11/30 Sam Sharpe lists.red...@samsharpe.net: 2009/11/30 Patrick O'Callaghan pocallag...@gmail.com: On Mon, 2009-11-30 at 20:15 +, Sam Sharpe wrote: 2009/11/30 Patrick O'Callaghan pocallag...@gmail.com: On Sun, 2009-11-29 at 08:47 -0800, Joel Gomberg wrote: On 11/29/2009 05:41 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: My name is Patrick and I'm a crossword puzzle addict. The NYT publishes its puzzles in Across Lite format, and there's a proprietary app (acrossl) which runs on Linux. Unfortunately it's getting really old and is binary-only. It worked under F11 but now the app gets a segfault on my netbook (though oddly it works fine on my 64-bit desktop, also on F12). I downloaded http://www.nytimes.com/downloads/acllinux.smotif.tar.gz This is a completely different error from what I'm reporting. You're getting this because a library is missing. This has been that way for the last several releases of Fedora and I've always managed to resolve it by installing a compatibility library. In fact, to emphasize what I thought was clear already, the acrossl binary has no missing components. Here it is: $ ldd /usr/local/bin/acrossl snip $ The trouble is, on 32-bit F12 it segfaults and on 64-bit F12 it works. Note that it's a 32-bit binary. Mmmm... I think my point, Actually my problem was that I naively thought that the version supplied on the NYT website is what you are using. It appears you are using this: http://www.litsoft.com/across/alite/download.htm To run that, I had to install: lesstif libXp libXpm compat-libstdc++-296 [...@nc10 acrosslite1.2]$ ./acrossl ./acrossl: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.2.8: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory [...@nc10 acrosslite1.2]$ sudo ln -s /usr/lib/libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3 /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.2.8 [...@nc10 acrosslite1.2]$ ./acrossl ./acrossl: symbol lookup error: ./acrossl: undefined symbol: __eh_pc That appears more googlable, but at this point I have to admit I lost interest... ... I prefer crosswords on Paper :o) -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Sendmail not forwarding under F12
2009/11/30 Geoffrey Leach ge...@hughes.net: With the installation of F12, Sendmail is no longer honoring my .forward -- nothing has changed (except the permissions, I've been hacking). Mail is delivered to /var/mail/geoff /var/log/maillog Nov 30 14:34:07 mtranch sendmail[3272]: nAUMY4Fn003272: to=geoff, ctladdr=geoff (500/500), delay=00:00:03, xdelay=00:00:03, mailer=relay, pri=30207, relay=[127.0.0.1] [127.0.0.1], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (nAUMY4tR003273 Message accepted for delivery) Nov 30 14:34:07 mtranch sendmail[3278]: nAUMY4tR003273: forward /home/ geoff/.forward.mtranch: Permission denied Nov 30 14:34:07 mtranch sendmail[3278]: nAUMY4tR003273: forward /home/ geoff/.forward: Permission denied Nov 30 14:34:07 mtranch sendmail[3278]: nAUMY4tR003273: to=ge...@mtranch.mtranch.com, ctladdr=ge...@mtranch.mtranch.com (500/500), delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=local, pri=30706, dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent /etc/mail/sendmail.cf O DontBlameSendmail=forwardfileinunsafedirpath, forwardfileinunsafedirpathsafe ge...@mtranch[4]-ll ~/.forward -r. 1 geoff geoff 33 2009-11-30 10:36 /home/geoff/.forward Any suggestions? 1) Assuming this worked before when the permissions were like that, check for SELinux messages in /var/log/messages and /var/log/secure 2) Change the permissions - I think the sendmail user might prefer read permissions on that file and the directories above it, as I'm not sure it runs as the user (I don't play with sendmail much these days). -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Assistance finding out what process is writing to the disk drive
2009/11/30 Robert Collard bobcoll...@sbcglobal.net: In terminal type top without the quotes. You do not need to be at root to get results I'm confused. Is per-process disk IO a recent addition to top? (I know it's in atop and iotop, but I've never seen disk stats in regular top) -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora and USB ??
2009/11/29 Jim mickey...@sbcglobal.net: FC12 What Config files in /etc have to be setup for using USB devices ? None. -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How do I run PHP's PEAR on F12 ?
2009/11/29 Aaron Gray aaronngray.li...@googlemail.com: How do I run PHP's PEAR on F12 ? You can install it with: # yum install php-pear Actually using it is a question for a PHP list, not here. -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Where are gnome menu configuration files ?
2009/11/29 Tom Horsley tom.hors...@att.net: On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 11:37:37 -0500 William Case wrote: Just a URL for a site/page that explains would be helpful. I think the xdg docs on freedesktop.org are what you may want (on the other hand, decrypting them may be more trouble than just re-editng the menus by hand again :-). I don't know how the order is set, but I think the files you are interested in are: ~/.local/share/applications/ ~/.config/menus/ Cheers, Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora and USB ??
2009/11/29 Jim mickey...@sbcglobal.net: On 11/29/2009 11:26 AM, Sam Sharpe wrote: 2009/11/29 Jimmickey...@sbcglobal.net: FC12 What Config files in /etc have to be setup for using USB devices ? None. Now I realize I should have phrased that differently. What I'm trying to do is connect to my cell phone , a Motorola Droid. it shows up in /proc/bus/usb/devices. I'm using a Application from the Fedora 12 repo. moto4linux. Should the phone be set up some where in /etc showing the Product ID:Vendor ID ? How sure are you that drivers for the Droid exist? From what I remember, it's an Android-based smartphone that's been available for about a month. I would expect that it was recognised in some way by the USB drivers, but I don't know what driver would be attached to it. What is the output of `dmesg` after you have plugged it in? What I wouldn't expect is that moto4linux would be able to speak to the Droid - it's different to every other Motorola phone that I know of, so I would expect it to speak a different language. -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F12: Missing Config Dialogue
2009/11/29 Dave Cross dav...@gmail.com: There's a config dialogue box that I can't find in Fedora 12. I've used it in the last few versions of Fedora. It's the dialogue box controlling Window appearance. In particular I want the option that controls the behaviour that's triggered when you double-click on a title bar. I want to set it to roll-up the window. System - Preferences - Windows? What happened to this dialogue box? Is there any way to get it back? Now part of the following package: # yum install control-center-extra That help? -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Setting up a VM to run XP in an up-to-date F12 box?
Additionally can you experts tell me whether you can use usbkeys in the VM, In order to have full support for USB you need to use the closed-source VirtualBox from SUN Or... you can use KVM and Fedora's built-in Virt Manager. It does support USB and PCI device passthrough. I'm not sure where this stuff about VirtualBox being more user-friendly comes from. Maybe I'm not the average user, but there are things I can do with libvirt in Fedora that make it very user friendly, but I don't think the same level of control is available in VirtualBox, so I would rate it as less user-friendly for me. e.g. I have some RHEL and CentOS VMs, they're for development. I don't run them all the time, they don't have a GUI. If I want them on, I can do: # virsh start RHEL1 # virsh console RHEL1 do whatever I need # virsh shutdown RHEL1 My advice would be to try using Virt-Manager in Fedora (providing you have recent hardware) and see how you get on. It really really isn't that difficult. If it's not working for you, then investigate VirtualBox or even VMWare Player. -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora 12: Virtualization Manager issues.
2009/11/27 Tom Horsley tom.hors...@att.net: On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 14:34:14 -0600 Tanner Danzey wrote: Unable to open connection to hypervisor URI 'qemu:///system': unable to connect to '/var/run/libvirt/libvirt-sock': Connection refused Traceback (most recent call last): The exact error I get if I don't have yet another new daemon running in my custom X session (no gnome or kde). Have to have: /usr/libexec/polkit-gnome-authentication-agent-1 started (and, of course, dbus). I swear gnome is gonna use up all available PIDs sooner rather than later. Not unless it spawns 4 million processes ;o) http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/howto-linux-increase-pid-limits.html (assumes x86_64) -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Why is load on my server stuck at 1
2009/11/25 Dan Track dan.tr...@gmail.com: Hi, I'm curious to find out why the load on my server is stuck at 1.00, excerpt from top: top - 10:53:10 up 21 days, 46 min, 1 user, load average: 1.00, 1.00, 1.00 Look for processes in the D state in a ps output. There will be one, and because it's not runnable, it permanently adds 1 to the Load Average. -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Is 200M on /boot enough for F12 *installation* (not upgrade)?
2009/11/18 Andre Costa blue...@gmail.com: Ok, so preupgrade to F12 needs a 500M /boot. I have a 200M /boot, and I've been performing installs instead of upgrades since F10: I reformat / and /boot and leave /home alone. BTW: / and /home are LVM logical volumes. Can anyone confirm this will work with F12 as well or will I need to grow /boot to 500M? Release notes indicates that a separate /boot should be 300M... Anecdotal evidence would suggest that you will be fine. I have yum upgraded my machine from F11 - Rawhide - F12 and I have a 200MB boot partition. It contains: [...@samlap ~]$ sudo du -x /boot [sudo] password for sam: 224 /boot/efi/EFI/redhat 226 /boot/efi/EFI 228 /boot/efi 271 /boot/grub 13 /boot/lost+found 49539 /boot So only 50MB in use... I think you will be OK, unless Anaconda is enforcing some kind of rule that isn't technically necessary. -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F12 installs report here.
2009/11/17 Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) space.time.unive...@gmail.com: Soon. In this message, you added one word, which wasn't particularly relevant. You also added 44 words of signature. If you break it down by characters, your useful content was 5, signature was 464. That makes the Signal to Noise Ratio of your post approximately 1:100. There are two parts of the list guidance you might like to read: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines#Avoid_long_signatures_and_disclaimers http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines#Keep_it_Short -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: RPM Fusion free and nonfree repositories for Fedora 12 (Constantine) now available
2009/11/17 Mike Cloaked mike.cloa...@gmail.com: Mike Cloaked wrote: Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: The RPM Fusion team is proud to announce the public availability of our ''free'' and ''nonfree'' package repositories for Fedora 12 (Constantine). The repositories contain multimedia applications, kernel drivers, games and other software the Fedora Project doesn't want to ship for various reasons. Is it just my inability to see the detail or are the kmod-nvidia drivers not yet available? I see that they are still in testing - http://download1.rpmfusion.org/nonfree/fedora/updates/testing/12/i386/ FWIW, I've been using the F12 testing RPMs for kmod-nvidia on an NVidia NVS 290 at work for a couple of weeks without issues. -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Has anyone used bash4 under Fedora 10, 11 or 12?
2009/11/15 Todd Zullinger t...@pobox.com: Steven W. Orr wrote: Does it cause problems? Does it work ok? It's been used in rawhide for many months now, and what will be Fedora 12. I've seen various minor issues reported and fixed on the bug-bash list. Fedora 12 currently has bash 4.0.33 (which is only slightly behind upstream's 4.0.35 -- and will likely be pushed as an update eventually). I hadn't even noticed, but I've been using it for a couple of weeks :o) [...@samlap ~]$ echo $BASH_VERSION 4.0.33(1)-release [...@samlap ~]$ cat /etc/redhat-release Fedora release 12 (Constantine) Seems fine to me - my work is heavily based in a shell and I haven't noticed any difference. -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Qemu vs VMWare
2009/10/25 Marko Vojinovic vvma...@gmail.com: * did I miss something obvious to configure, read the docs or whatever, so I'm not aware that qemu can work better? How did you install your virtual machines, and do you have Hardware Virtualisation support enabled on your chipset? I use Virt Manager to install guests all the time. That uses KVM as the virtualisation infrastructure, which in turn uses qemu-kvm as a backend. My VM performance is roughly equivalent to when I used to use VMWare Workstation. So I think (and don't take this the wrong way) that you're probably doing it all wrong - and that's why your performance is so bad! Qemu on it's own is Software virtualisation, with absolutely no acceleration at all - if that's what you are using, I'm not surprised it sucks ;o) -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Anyone running F11 on a Dell mini ? (Or another mini ?)
2009/10/14 Frank Cox thea...@sasktel.net On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 12:12:52 -0700 Rick Stevens wrote: Linuxguy123 wrote: How is it working for you ? I run it on an Acer Aspire One. Works fine. *blink* Is THAT what he meant by minicomputer? How could you possibly call something like that a mini? See my tractor-trailer rig and I show you a Honda Civic with trailer hitch? Brand names... The brand in question is a Dell Mini (9|12). NB: your age is showing, best zip up ;o) -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: IRC / VM question
Kevin Kempter wrote: Hi all; I have a scenario where I've installed a Fedora 10 (386) VM via vmware on a laptop running Fedora 10 (x86_64). I fire up the VM, connect the VM to a VPN connection and then connect to an IRC server (which is only accessable via the VPN connection). This works ok, however I'd really like to be able to access the IRC channel from my main OS (the linux x86_64 host OS) instead of having to switch desktops to the VM every few seconds to see if I have new messages in the IRC channels. However I don't want to connect the host OS to the VPN since I have other simultaneous network needs that the VPN prevents me from using. Anyone have any thoughts how I can connect IRC via a sort of pass-through from my host OS, thru the Fedora 10 (i386) guest VM and then on to the VPN accessible IRC server? Yes, go back to the old school IRC bouncers ;o) (finally a use for all those years I spent idling on Undernet!) The one I used to use back in the day was psybnc (http://www.psybnc.at/) - you have a permanently connected machine (shell host) running psybnc which connects to your IRC server. You then connect to psybnc from your less-permanently-connected machine (desktop) as if it's an IRC server and it proxies your connection. Some of the better IRC bouncers maintain logs when you are offline which get replayed to you when you connect and do other groovy stuff. They were used back in the day to remain permanently on-channel (and retain CHANOP permissions) even when you had a flaky dialup connection. In your case, replace shell host with VM+VPN and desktop with main OS and you are done. Googling for IRC bouncer gets you to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BNC_%28software%29 which will then get you to http://www.dmoz.org/Computers/Software/Internet/Clients/Chat/IRC/Bouncers/ I've used psybnc,ezbounce,BNC and ZNC in my time, but there's probably millions of variations now - I haven't seen any in the Fedora repos, but someone else might know of one. -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: FC 11 Boot mode single user [recovery password]
rgheck wrote: On 08/10/2009 09:01 AM, Tiago Araujo wrote: Dear, I need recovery password in FC 11. I don't think there is a recovery password. If you boot into single user mode, you won't be asked for one. Will you? You will if you have password-protected single user mode - in which case you need your normal root password (there is no default). It's set in /etc/inittab via a line that says: su:S:wait:/sbin/sulogin Mine says: ~~:S:wait:/sbin/sulogin which I think means disabled - but I haven't got the hang of this upstart initialisation scripts yet so I may be wrong. The only alternative, if you don't have the root password is to boot off an install or Live CD with the words linux rescue and then you can check your filesystems and do maintenance without knowing the root password for your regular install. -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Preupgrade 10 11
Jim wrote: Ran preupgrade from F10 F11 and everything works perfect , EXCEPT , I had a conf file in etc that had to do with the NO IPV6 and dns problem in F10, F11 and preupgrade eliminated that conf file, why don't they set it up that it will leave the conf file the user makes alone. ? During upgrade. please name the config file - otherwise we don't know what you are talking about... ... however, if you are asking what the file was so you can recreate it, then my best guess is /etc/sysconfig/network - because it can have: NETWORKING_IPV6=no SEARCH=blah.domain.com blah2.domain.com domain.com Which fits your criteria of DNS problems and stopping IPV6 The reason RPM won't persist it is because: [...@samlap ~]$ rpm -qif /etc/sysconfig/network file /etc/sysconfig/network is not owned by any package So... I'm guessing that Anaconda updated it as part of the upgrade and wasn't intelligent enough to save your customisations - file a bug against anaconda if that's the case and maybe you can save someone else some trouble later on ;o) -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Where did ktnef go?
Raman Gupta wrote: ktnef seems to be missing from the latest kdepim package. # yum whatprovides */ktnef shows: kdepim-4.1.2-5.fc10.x86_64 : PIM (Personal Information Manager) applications Repo: fedora Matched from: Filename: /usr/share/kde4/apps/ktnef However, I have kdepm 4.2.4 installed, which does not contain ktnef: # rpm -q --list kdepim | grep tnef # A search for ktnef also shows nothing. # yum search ktnef # yum search *ktnef* I have a suspicion that you are looking for an App, when what now exists is a library that is used within the relevant PIM applications. (I'm not a KDE user, so I have little experience) [...@samlap ~]$ yum provides /usr/lib64/libktnef.so.4 kdepimlibs-4.2.2-3.fc11.x86_64 : K Desktop Environment 4 - PIM Libraries Repo: fedora Matched from: Filename: /usr/lib64/libktnef.so.4 -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: What are Microsoft codecs?
Sam wrote: : This package provides FFmpeg-based GStreamer plug-ins. Maybe they are there, but they sure don't have the same effect as MPlayer codecs and plug-ins: MPlayer works. Totem/GStreamer works for me thanks. -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: What are Microsoft codecs?
gil...@altern.org wrote: Sam wrote: : This package provides FFmpeg-based GStreamer plug-ins. Maybe they are there, but they sure don't have the same effect as MPlayer codecs and plug-ins: MPlayer works. Totem/GStreamer works for me thanks. With WMV, everywhere? Try it here: radio-Canada.ca It worked for nobody when I asked last month. I think you have me confused with a Canadian. I don't have any interest in listening to Canadian Radio... -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: What are Microsoft codecs?
gil...@altern.org wrote: Frank Murphy wrote: On 08/08/09 20:31, gil...@altern.org wrote: Let's hope Totem can fix this, 'cause I'm not very much into finding URLs. Then file a bugzilla, against totem (gstreamer?), giving the url that cause the problem, showing that you can play it in mplayer I use mplayer, why should I fill a bug for Totem? Errm, because you tried it and couldn't get it to do what you wanted, either because you hadn't installed the right bits or the bits don't exist to do what you want. Have you considered actually complaining to the broadcaster who is not providing cross-platform compatible versions of their media? Say there are 10 stations providing straight WMV files, how many do you figure provide them through the whole paraphernalia of asx, asf, java, javascript and silverlight? Closer to 1 or closer to 100? Err, if there are only 10 stations, I wouldn't expect there to ever be more than 10 providing them through asx,asf,javascript,silverlight because, well - I can do maths. I would say much closer to 100. So Totem developers know about the problem, just as GNOME developers know about the NewFile entering the clipboard problem or files not appearing in Nautilus after a move from one window to another unless you press F5. Those problems have been transferred from one release to another for years, and nobody has fixed them. Do me a favour, stop whining about things you won't fix yourself - it's not constructive. The only way these things get done is if talented coders get involved and fix things. I'm not one of those and I'm betting you aren't either. People who can't dive into the code and patch the problem, document the problem in Bugzilla, then we provide more information when necessary. We don't start creating a fuss about people not solving our problem - we wait patiently until it's fixed. We certainly don't throw our toys out of the pram if no-one ever fixes it. Within large organisations, where no name is associated to the product, nobody cares about fixing bugs because there's no glory associated to it. Rubbish. I work in a large organisation and we fix things because we care about what we do, not because there is any glory associated. If you have a problem with K3B, write to Sebastian Trüg, even through a bugzilla, and you'll see it won't take long before a new version comes out. That's why there aren't bugs in K3B. WHAT THE HECK? What you mean is there aren't any unfixed, reported bugs. Of course there are bugs in k3b, otherwise people wouldn't have anything to bugzilla and Sebastian wouldn't have anything to fix. There will be more bugs discovered, which Sebastian will fix - but those bugs probably exist undiscovered now - so there are bugs in k3b. When I have a name associated to a product, I do fill bug reports. Otherwise, I've too often observed that it's no use. So, why do I write Let's hope Totem can fix this ? I say this because I believe someone should care about bugs being fixed, and this somebody is Red Hat. You demonstrate a lack of understanding - the media decoding in Totem is done by GStreamer - that's not a Red Hat project, it's a project of freedesktop.org (http://gstreamer.freedesktop.org/) Totem itself is not a Red Hat project - it's a project of the Gnome Foundation: http://projects.gnome.org/totem/ As for myself, from experience, I consider I have no other power to get bugs corrected than by choosing the software that works and ignoring the rest. When developers finally come to the conclusion that nobody gives a damn about their buggy software, sometimes, they reconsider the way they work. If you just ignored it, I wouldn't care, but you keep talking trash about things you don't understand how to make work properly. -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: What are Microsoft codecs?
Antonio wrote: Totem has come a long ways and you get it whether you like it or not because it meets Fedora's requirements + it does not have the ability to play proprietary file formats by default, one has to add them through other repositories like rpmfusion. To my surprise, it seems those codecs exist: # gst-ffmpeg FFmpeg-based plug-in, contains all the basic decoders for popular codecs, such as DivX and WMV # Pitfdll Plug-ins using the Windows codec DLLs for which no free software implementation exists yet. http://projects.gnome.org/totem/ but I can't get them at rpmfusion, at least through regular repositories. Some work seems to be ongoing: That's because you haven't looked, in at least one of those cases: [...@samlap ~]$ yum search pitfdll Loaded plugins: dellsysidplugin2, fastestmirror, merge-conf, post-transaction- : actions, presto, refresh-packagekit, upgrade-helper, verify Warning: No matches found for: pitfdll No Matches found oh well, I don't believe it's necessary anyway... [...@samlap ~]$ yum info gstreamer-ffmpeg Loaded plugins: dellsysidplugin2, fastestmirror, merge-conf, post-transaction- : actions, presto, refresh-packagekit, upgrade-helper, verify Installed Packages Name : gstreamer-ffmpeg Arch : x86_64 Version: 0.10.7 Release: 2.fc11.1 Size : 419 k Repo : installed From repo : rpmfusion-free-updates Summary: GStreamer FFmpeg-based plug-ins URL: http://gstreamer.freedesktop.org/ License: GPLv2+ and LGPLv2+ Description: GStreamer is a streaming media framework, based on graphs of : filters which operate on media data. Applications using this : library can do anything from real-time sound processing to playing : videos, and just about anything else media-related. Its : plugin-based architecture means that new data types or processing : capabilities can be added simply by installing new plugins. : : This package provides FFmpeg-based GStreamer plug-ins. -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: kmod-nvidia revisited
gil...@altern.org wrote: Phil Meyer wrote: The akmod tools will rebuild the kernel module(s) for you on the boot of the new kernel. Really? I thought it involved some extra manip. Here's my last kmod upgrade: Aug 06 14:34:22 Updated: xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-libs-185.18.31-1.fc11.x86_64 Aug 06 14:34:22 Updated: kmod-nvidia-185.18.31-1.fc11.x86_64 Aug 06 14:34:24 Updated: xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-185.18.31-1.fc11.x86_64 Aug 06 14:34:29 Updated: kmod-nvidia-2.6.29.6-213.fc11.x86_64-185.18.29-1.fc11.x86_64 Aug 06 14:34:36 Installed: kmod-nvidia-2.6.29.6-217.2.3.fc11.x86_64-185.18.31-1.fc11.x86_64 akmod will do all this automatically? Not quite as I understand it... 1) You install akmod-nvidia, which installs the Source for the NVidia driver. 2) You reboot, into a kernel which doesn't have an nvidia.ko 3) During boot, amkod will notice that you don't have the NVidia driver RPM for that kernel, compile it for you into an RPM and install it - so from then on you will have a kmod-nvidia made especially for you. It's pretty similar to Dell's DKMS, but instead of just compiling the module for you and putting it in lib/modules/`uname -r`/ , it will compile the module as an RPM, then install that RPM - the effect is the same, but the package management gods are satisfied. The next time you update and there is a newer version of the kmod-XXX available, you will get it. Why is that if akmod has already done the job? akmod builds a kmod-nvidia from whatever version of the Source RPM it has - if a newer version or release of kmod-nvidia is released in the Updates channel - that will get installed later. There is however, no guarantee that akmod will generate a working module, because typically it is using the settings that worked on the version of the kernel and driver that existed when that akmod was made - it may not compile until the NVidia driver is updated in response to some kernel changes. (that said, it hasn't failed me yet...) -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: kmod-nvidia revisited
sam.sharpe wrote: There is however, no guarantee that akmod will generate a working module I'm sure experts on this group aren't afraid the lesser bit by what you say here, but I find that rpmfusion does a really good job of making sure everything just works. And they do it in a very timely matter. I agree with you 110%, after all, they also provide akmod-nvidia so they are always the winners in my book. I've had one single issue of the akmod not building a valid module, but I think I was using updates-testing at the time so I wouldn't complain! Go rpmfusion! I wouldn't be using Linux everywhere without you guys! -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: OpenJDK java web start fails to open jnlp files version 1.5
Oliver Said: On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 5:00 PM, Suvayu Alifatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com wrote: Oliver Ruebenacker wrote: Hello, I am unable to start http://vcell.org/webstart/Rel/vcell.jnlp from Firefox (although it works under MS Win) and when I try in bash: javaws http://vcell.org/webstart/Rel/vcell.jnlp I get: netx: Invalid XML document syntax It seems to be this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/fedora/+source/openjdk-6/+bug/224800 When should we expect a fix? Thanks! I believe this is what you are experiencing, https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=494302 Yes, sounds like the same bug, says it's fixed upstream. So, how long should we expect the river to take to flow down to us? Thanks! - What speed does the river flow? - How far downstream are we? - How long is a piece of string? - How many roads must a man walk down? (all these are unknown, apart from the last, where the answer my friend, is blowing in the wind) In all seriousness, why not update the Bugzilla and ask? -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: OpenJDK java web start fails to open jnlp files version 1.5
On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 5:16 PM, sam.sharpe+lists.red...@gmail.com wrote: Oliver Said: On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 5:00 PM, Suvayu Alifatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com wrote: Oliver Ruebenacker wrote: Hello, I am unable to start http://vcell.org/webstart/Rel/vcell.jnlp from Firefox (although it works under MS Win) and when I try in bash: javaws http://vcell.org/webstart/Rel/vcell.jnlp I get: netx: Invalid XML document syntax It seems to be this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/fedora/+source/openjdk-6/+bug/224800 When should we expect a fix? Thanks! I believe this is what you are experiencing, https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=494302 Yes, sounds like the same bug, says it's fixed upstream. So, how long should we expect the river to take to flow down to us? Thanks! - What speed does the river flow? - How far downstream are we? - How long is a piece of string? - How many roads must a man walk down? (all these are unknown, apart from the last, where the answer my friend, is blowing in the wind) In all seriousness, why not update the Bugzilla and ask? I thought bugzilla is for reporting, not for asking. If questions go to bugzilla, what is left for this list? On bugzilla, someone owns that issue/package - so they can answer that question. On this list, no-one necessarily owns the problem and there is the possibility that no-one can answer authoritatively. (Disclaimer: I work in a support role and as far as I am concerned, from a customer perspective, someone has to own your issue otherwise there is no concept of accountability and I believe even in the OSS community that principle holds) -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: scripting doubts
On Tue, 2009-08-04 at 14:21 +0200, Arthur Meeks Meeks wrote: I found the way to do it finally. I'm now dealing with parsing the new file, as I need to look for two values, REPLICATION CLIENT and ALL So, if the machine has REPLICATION CLIENT is ok and if it has GRANT ALL is also good. So, is there a way with grep to say: grep REPLICATION CLIENT OR GRANT ALL ? For future reference, note that tail -n +2 will remove the first line of input. ... so will sed ;o) [...@samlap ~]$ cat afil tom dick harry [...@samlap ~]$ cat afil | sed -e '1d' dick harry (and so, the text processing wars began!) -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: dellsysidplugin2??
On Mon, 03 Aug 2009 17:00:53 -0400 John Aldrich wrote: Well, my F11 machine has never been anywhere near a Dell box, so that's not the answer for me at least... :-) I see that on my Acer Aspire One netbook too, but not on my other laptop or on any of my desktop computers. And I don't have any Dell machines at all. Everyone should probably document this on this bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=487130 -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
