Re: Preupgrade to F11 worked but... [can't get httpd to start]

2009-12-30 Thread Steve Blackwell
On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 05:55:59 -0800 (PST)
TNWestTex mcfo...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 
 
 
 Steve Blackwell wrote:
  
  On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 11:18:59 -0800 (PST)
  TNWestTex mcfo...@bellsouth.net wrote:
  
  
  
  
  Steve Blackwell wrote:
   
   I ran preupgrade to go from F10 to F11 and I was pleasantly
   surprised (because F9-F10 was a mess) that it worked almost
   flawlessly. 
   
   When I booted into F11 for the first time, I got a warning about
   a ssl library not being found. To cut a long story short, I have
   found that there are 62 packages that did not get updated from
   F10, one of them being httpd. I considered just deleting the
   offending rpm and reinstalling but there are so many
   dependencies.
   
   Is this a common problem and how have others overcome it.
   
  
  yum whatprovides libname
  
  is useful.  
  Thanks for the suggestions but they didn't help. 
  
  I noticed that nearly all the fc10 packages that were left around
  were -devel or -debug so I just deleted them. 
  
  There were a couple that had no dependencies so I just yum removed
  and then yum installed them.
  
  I'm still having a problem with httpd. I yum removed it and its 10
  dependencies and then re-installed them all (apart from bugzilla
  which I don't need) but when I try to restart the service I get
  this error:
  
  # run_init service httpd restart
  Authenticating steve.
  Password: 
  Stopping httpd:[FAILED]
  Starting httpd: httpd: Syntax error on line 196
  of /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf: Cannot
  load /etc/httpd/modules/mod_file_cache.so into
  server: /etc/httpd/modules/mod_file_cache.so: cannot open shared
  object file: No such file or directory [FAILED]
  
  Line 196 of /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf says:
  LoadModule file_cache_module modules/mod_file_cache.so
  
  yum whatprovides file_cache_modules says no matches
  
  
 
 I don't use apache but for yum try 
 
 yum whatprovides /etc/httpd/modules/mod_file_cache.so
 
 Robert McBroom
 
That just returns No Matches found

In the end I just commented out the 2 offending lines:

#LoadModule file_cache_module modules/mod_file_cache.so
#LoadModule mem_cache_module modules/mod_mem_cache.so

and httpd start OK now. I don't know what those two lines do but I
haven't noticed any difference yet.

Ah! I did a bit of digging and found this
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=505048.
although the directives are still in my .rpmnew file.

Steve.

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Re: Preupgrade to F11 worked but... [can't get httpd to start]

2009-12-26 Thread Steve Blackwell
On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 11:18:59 -0800 (PST)
TNWestTex mcfo...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 
 
 
 Steve Blackwell wrote:
  
  I ran preupgrade to go from F10 to F11 and I was pleasantly
  surprised (because F9-F10 was a mess) that it worked almost
  flawlessly. 
  
  When I booted into F11 for the first time, I got a warning about a
  ssl library not being found. To cut a long story short, I have
  found that there are 62 packages that did not get updated from F10,
  one of them being httpd. I considered just deleting the offending
  rpm and reinstalling but there are so many dependencies.
  
  Is this a common problem and how have others overcome it.
  
 
 Packages that don't have new dependencies or internal changes are not
 relabeled with the version change.  Run from a root terminal session
 yum clean all
 yum update
 to catch up with all the updates since the initial issue of F11.  If
 there are missing dependencies use the 
 --skip-broken 
 option for yum if yum-utils is installed.  It is possible that there
 is an selinux label problem.  Putting a zero length file with the
 name .autorelabel 
 into / and rebooting will solve some problems.
 If the library is still missing you'll have to do some sleuthing to
 find where it was supposed to be found.
 
 yum whatprovides libname
 
 is useful.  
 
 Robert McBroom
Thanks for the suggestions but they didn't help. 

I noticed that nearly all the fc10 packages that were left around were
-devel or -debug so I just deleted them. 

There were a couple that had no dependencies so I just yum removed and
then yum installed them.

I'm still having a problem with httpd. I yum removed it and its 10
dependencies and then re-installed them all (apart from bugzilla which
I don't need) but when I try to restart the service I get this error:

# run_init service httpd restart
Authenticating steve.
Password: 
Stopping httpd:[FAILED]
Starting httpd: httpd: Syntax error on line 196
of /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf: Cannot
load /etc/httpd/modules/mod_file_cache.so into
server: /etc/httpd/modules/mod_file_cache.so: cannot open shared object
file: No such file or directory [FAILED]

Line 196 of /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf says:
LoadModule file_cache_module modules/mod_file_cache.so

yum whatprovides file_cache_modules says no matches


Steve.

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Preupgrade to F11 worked but...

2009-12-20 Thread Steve Blackwell
I ran preupgrade to go from F10 to F11 and I was pleasantly surprised
(because F9-F10 was a mess) that it worked almost flawlessly. 

When I booted into F11 for the first time, I got a warning about a ssl
library not being found. To cut a long story short, I have found that
there are 62 packages that did not get updated from F10, one of them
being httpd. I considered just deleting the offending rpm and
reinstalling but there are so many dependencies.

Is this a common problem and how have others overcome it.

Thanks,
Steve

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Re: gdm theme change

2009-11-08 Thread Steve Blackwell
On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 23:55:35 -0500
Louis E Garcia II louis...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 I would like to change the color of the gdm window. I have looked
 through the gdm config files and could not find a reference to a
 theme. Can someone point me to the right config file or the source
 file for this.
 
 -Thanks
 
I just finished researching this myself. 
I found this page:
http://www.jirka.org/gdm-documentation/x1259.html

I think the easiest thing to do will be to copy the existing theme to a
new one and then modify the background picture.

HTH
Steve

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Re: xmessage alternative?

2009-10-09 Thread Steve Blackwell
On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 07:37:23 +0100
Sharpe, Sam J sam.sharpe+lists.red...@gmail.com wrote:

 2009/10/9 Steve Blackwell zep...@cfl.rr.com:
  I'm using xmessage from /etc/profile to put up a message whenever
  anyone logs in. It works fine but it is butt ugly! Does anyone know
  of an alternative? Perhaps something that uses a GNOME theme?
 
 Zenity
 
 It's probably already installed as loads of things use it. Try typing
 zenity --help
 

That will work nicely.

Thanks,
Steve

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Re: Where is pulseaudio started?

2009-09-01 Thread Steve Blackwell
Some people had asked to keep this thread going so here is
what I've found so far. (Note That I'm using GNOME
and GDM so I started with GDM. There is, no doubt, something for
equivalent KDE)

For those who want the short version, I still don't have it figured out
yet but I now think that the autostart of the xdg directory *.desktop
files is called from within gnome-session.

I found this page:

http://library.gnome.org/admin/gdm/2.26/gdm.html

This describes how GDM executes a number of scripts during the login
process:

Init
PostLogin
PreSession
Xsession

The Init script is located in /etc/gdm/Init/Default and has nothing to
do with PA which I sort of already knew as PA gets started during the
login process not before it

The PostLogin script would be called would be
called /etc/gdm/PostLogin/Default if one existed but on my system it
has been renamed to Default.sample and is empty.

The PreSession script is located in /etc/gdm/PreSession/Default and
this also has nothing to do with PA.

Section 5.3 of the html doc above says There is also an
Xsession script located at etc/gdm/Xsession which is called between
the PreSession and the PostSession scripts. ...This script is run as the
user, and it will run whatever session was specified by the Desktop
session file the user selected to start. 

Looking at this script you can see that it is indeed this file that
starts the gnome-session.

The web page above has a section called Autostart Configuration which
says The share/gdm/autostart/LoginWindow directory contains files in
the format specified by the FreeDesktop.org Desktop Application
Autostart Specification. Standard features in the specification may be
used to specify programs should auto-restart or only be launched if a
GConf configuration value is set, etc. Any .desktop files in this
directory will cause the associated program to automatically start with
the login GUI greeter.

# ls -g /usr/share/gdm/autostart/LoginWindow
-rw-r--r-- 1 root 2250 2008-12-18 18:31 at-spi-registryd-wrapper.desktop
-rw-r--r-- 1 root 2570 2008-12-18 18:31 gdm-simple-greeter.desktop
-rw-r--r-- 1 root 4835 2008-12-18 18:31 gnome-mag.desktop
-rw-r--r-- 1 root 4440 2008-12-18 18:31 gnome-power-manager.desktop
-rw-r--r-- 1 root 2302 2008-12-18 18:31 gnome-settings-daemon.desktop
-rw-r--r-- 1 root 4986 2008-12-18 18:31 gok.desktop
-rw-r--r-- 1 root 1333 2008-12-18 18:31 metacity.desktop
-rw-r--r-- 1 root 6449 2008-12-18 18:31 orca-screen-reader.desktop
-rw-r--r-- 1 root  171 2008-11-17 15:52 plymouth-log-viewer.desktop

(The -g is just to keep the lines shorter)
So, as you can see, no pulseaudio.desktop here.

My conclusion so far is that pulseaudio is started by autostart and
that the /etc/xdg/autostart/*.desktop files are called from within
gnome-session. I need to research gnome-session next.

Steve


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Re: In the news: Soon to be published, Skype back-door trojan code?

2009-08-29 Thread Steve Blackwell
On Sat, 29 Aug 2009 18:37:02 -0300
Fernando Cassia fcas...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 4:30 PM, Daniel B. Thurman d...@cdkkt.com
 wrote:
 
 
  [perhaps off topic, but interesting security implications?]
 
  I wonder if backdoors are installed to comply with
  government  law enforcement requirements.  In the US,
  Sen. Jay Rockefeller proposes to allow the POTUS to shutdown
  public  private Internet for any reason they want?
 
  Well back to Skype in the news:
  http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/08/28/skype_trojan_source_code/
 
  Fact or hype?
 
  FWIW,
  Dan
 
 
 Welcome to the Real World all your calls are belong to THE MAN
 (NSA)...
 
 SAFARI C(Cubed) is the only totally integrated carrier class VoIP
 switch that incorporates -- at no additional cost -- all of the
 components that make up the distributed voice switching
 infrastructure, eliminating the need for operators to purchase,
 maintain, upgrade and regression test separate Call Management
 Servers, Media Gateways, *Call Detail Records (Record Keeping)
 Servers*, Announcement Servers, Signaling Gateways, Ethernet Switches
 and *Legal Intercept (CALEA) servers*.
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communications_Assistance_for_Law_Enforcement_Act
 
 FC

If you are so inclined read The Puzzle
Palace 
(http://www.amazon.com/Puzzle-Palace-National-Intelligence-Organization/dp/0140067485/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8s=booksqid=1251583025sr=1-1)

Consider the advances in computers since that time (1980) and
extrapolate the surveillance capabilities that the book claims to today.

Steve
the advances 

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Re: Where is pulseaudio started?

2009-08-28 Thread Steve Blackwell
On Fri, 28 Aug 2009 10:10:47 +0100
Mark Knoop m...@opus11.net wrote:

 At 14:49 on 27 Aug 2009, Steve Blackwell wrote:
  On Fri, 28 Aug 2009 00:12:39 +0930
  Tim ignored_mail...@yahoo.com.au wrote:
  
   On Thu, 2009-08-27 at 10:12 -0400, Steve Blackwell wrote:
I'd like to know where (which file) the information is
stored in and what program starts it. gdm? gnome? gconf?
   
   A hint for finding out things like that:  Change a setting, and
   search for a very recently changed file.
   
  Interesting. 
  I had already found a directory called ~/.config/autostart but
  there was no hint of anything pulseaudio related in there. Then I
  followed your suggestion and disabled its autostart and searched for
  recently changed files. Now there is a file called
  ~/.config/pulseaudio.desktop. That is backward to what I would have
  expected and if I enable pulseaudio again, the file is removed.
 
 Come on, it's not exactly rocket-science. 

Well, I'm not exactly a rocket scientist.

 Perhaps you could start by reading what you've posted:
 
  The pulseaudio.desktop file contains this:
  
  [Desktop Entry]
 snip
  X-GNOME-Autostart-enabled=false

Even mere non-rocket-scientist-mortals like me can read. It's not the
fact that there is a line disabling autostart that puzzled me, it was
the fact that the file was removed altogether when PA did get
autostarted so then what caused start-pulseaudio-x11 to be run?

 Look also in /etc/xdg/autostart/ and at
 http://standards.freedesktop.org/autostart-spec/autostart-spec-latest.html
 

This provides the answer.

If $XDG_CONFIG_HOME and $XDG_CONFIG_DIRS are not set and the two
files /etc/xdg/autostart/foo.desktop and
~/.config/autostart/foo.desktop exist then only the file
~/.config/autostart/foo.desktop will be used because
~/.config/autostart/ is more important than /etc/xdg/autostart/

So when ~/.config/pulseaudio.desktop is
removed, /etc/xdg/autostart/pulseaudio.desktop is used instead and this
file contains the start-pulseaudio-x11.

Do you have any links to more information about autostart? For instance,
how does it interact with GDM?

Thanks,
Steve

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Re: Where is pulseaudio started?

2009-08-27 Thread Steve Blackwell
On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 09:40:24 +0100
Marko Vojinovic vvma...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Thursday 27 August 2009 05:16:33 Steven W. Orr wrote:
  Marko, I thank you for your help. I had read the pa material before
  but I did not realize that removing it from the system was really

 That's good news, I'm glad you got it working better! :-)

Ahem! Can we get back to the subject line?

So far we've established that pulsaaudio is started when you log in and
that you can turn it off by going to 

System-Preferences-Personal-Sessions

if you have F10 and

System-Preferences-Startup Applications

if you have F11. I'd like to know where (which file) the information is
stored in and what program starts it. gdm? gnome? gconf?

Thanks,
Steve

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Re: Where is pulseaudio started?

2009-08-27 Thread Steve Blackwell
On Fri, 28 Aug 2009 00:12:39 +0930
Tim ignored_mail...@yahoo.com.au wrote:

 On Thu, 2009-08-27 at 10:12 -0400, Steve Blackwell wrote:
  I'd like to know where (which file) the information is
  stored in and what program starts it. gdm? gnome? gconf?
 
 A hint for finding out things like that:  Change a setting, and search
 for a very recently changed file.
 
Interesting. 
I had already found a directory called ~/.config/autostart but
there was no hint of anything pulseaudio related in there. Then I
followed your suggestion and disabled its autostart and searched for
recently changed files. Now there is a file called
~/.config/pulseaudio.desktop. That is backward to what I would have
expected and if I enable pulseaudio again, the file is removed.

The pulseaudio.desktop file contains this:

[Desktop Entry]
Version=1.0
Encoding=UTF-8
Name=PulseAudio Sound System
Comment=Start the PulseAudio Sound System
Exec=start-pulseaudio-x11
Terminal=false
Type=Application
Categories=
GenericName=
Name[en_US]=PulseAudio Sound System
Comment[en_US]=Start the PulseAudio Sound System
X-GNOME-Autostart-enabled=false

/usr/bin/start-pulseaudio-x11 is a script:
comments snipped
set -e

# Exit without running pulseaudio daemon if this is a remote desktop
session [ -n $PULSE_SERVER ]  exit 0

/usr/bin/pulseaudio --start $@

if [ x$DISPLAY != x ] ; then

/usr/bin/pactl load-module module-x11-publish display=$DISPLAY
 /dev/null

if [ x$SESSION_MANAGER != x ] ; then
/usr/bin/pactl load-module module-x11-xsmp display=$DISPLAY
session_manager=$SESSION_MANAGER  /dev/null fi
fi

So my remaining questions are what reads the pulseaudio.desktop file
and how does pulseaudio get started if it does not exist.

Steve

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Re: Where is pulseaudio started?

2009-08-27 Thread Steve Blackwell
On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 15:24:51 -0400
William Case billli...@rogers.com wrote:


 I have been following this thread with a great deal of interest.  When
 you finally get it figured out would you please be sure to let us all
 know.
 

Don't hold your breath!

Steve

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Re: Where is pulseaudio started?

2009-08-26 Thread Steve Blackwell
On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 10:03:08 -0700
Jonathan Ryshpan jonr...@pacbell.net wrote:

 On Wed, 2009-08-26 at 09:25 +0200, Roberto Ragusa wrote:
  stan wrote:
   If you are using the default Fedora setup, you have your own
   version of pulse started when you log in.  I notice that it also
   can be started by programs that need its services, and that seems
   to be gconf-helper.
  
  Isn't autospawn activated by default in /etc/pulse/client.conf?
  That means you can have pulseaudio started by who knows what.
 
 I don't think so.  On my system (Fedora-11 vanilla) autospawn is
 commented out.
 
 jon
 

It's commented out in my F10 system too.

I really didn't think that this was going to be a difficult question!

I'm assuming that where pulseaudio is started can change from
distribution to distribution which is why I'm asking on this list.

I don't want to disable pulseaudio, I just want to understand what it
does and how it works om my system a little better.

Steve

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Re: Where is pulseaudio started?

2009-08-26 Thread Steve Blackwell
On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 12:21:20 -0700
Rick Stevens ri...@nerd.com wrote:

 
 It's started in your session.  If you're using Gnome, go to
 
  System-Preferences-Startup Applications
 
 and scroll down the list.  

Ah-ha! There's the answer. On my F10 system it is

System-Preferences-Personal-Sessions

but there is an entry for PA. Now, what I'd like to know is where is
the file that stores this info and what reads it when I login. Back in
the day it used to be Xsession or something like that.

Thanks Rick,
Steve

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Re: Where is pulseaudio started?

2009-08-25 Thread Steve Blackwell
On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 18:07:00 -0700
stan gr...@q.com wrote:

 On Sun, 23 Aug 2009 11:25:09 -0400
 Steve Blackwell zep...@cfl.rr.com wrote:
 
 I am not a pulse expert, but will take a stab at this as I have been
 wrestling with it for a while.
 
  I can't find any reference to pulseaudio in any init file
 
 Not init. You can configure it to start a systemwide server, which I
 suspect is started by X.

Well the PID of Xorg on my system is 

$ ps -ef | grep Xorg
root 16848 16841  0 Aug22 tty1 00:27:53 /usr/bin/Xorg :0 -nr
-verbose -auth /var/run/gdm/auth-for-gdm-e1NCi1/database -nolisten tcp
vt1

so if Xorg started pulseaudio then I would expect the PPID of
pulseaudio to be 16848 but it's not. 

$ ps -ef | grep pulseaudio
steve30603 1  0 Aug23 ?00:07:25 /usr/bin/pulseaudio
--start --log-target=syslog

The PPID is 1 which is the PID of init.

$  ps -ef | grep init
root 1 0  0 Aug13 ?00:00:02 /sbin/init

  So where does it get started?
 
 If you are using the default Fedora setup, you have your own version
 of pulse started when you log in.  I notice that it also can be
 started by programs that need its services, and that seems to be
 gconf-helper.
 
 No representation as to validity of the above, might contain wild
 supposition and unsubstantiated misinformation. If you want pulse
 information, go to the horses mouth 
 http://www.pulseaudio.org/
 

That what got me started looking into this. There have been so many
problems reported with pulseaudio, I decided I needed to look into how
it worked a little closer.

Steve

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Re: Epiphany package maintainer?

2009-08-24 Thread Steve Blackwell
On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 08:08:30 +0100
Frank Murphy (Frankly3D) frankl...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 23/08/09 23:58, Steve Blackwell wrote:
  On Sun, 23 Aug 2009 12:14:10 -0500
  Mikkel L. Ellertsonmik...@infinity-ltd.com  wrote:
 
  Steve Blackwell wrote:
  When I filed a bug
 
  http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=592612
 
 --snipp
 
 
 
  No matter, the bottom line is that the problem I reported is not
  going to get fixed in F10 which means that I have to swap over to
  Windows to use LinkedIn until I change to F11 which I'll do once
  F12 is released. Even then, the issue might still be there.Sigh
 
  Steve
 
 
 Would you not consider an alternative browser as a workaround?
 

I assumed that since epiphany is based on Firefox, I'd have the same
problem with Firefox. 

I should know better than to assume. The page works fine in Firefox so
yes, that's an acceptable workaround for me. A lot better than
switching to Windows!

Steve

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Re: Epiphany package maintainer?

2009-08-23 Thread Steve Blackwell
On Sun, 23 Aug 2009 16:37:05 +0100
Frank Murphy (Frankly3D) frankl...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 23/08/09 16:15, Steve Blackwell wrote:
  Anybody know how I can contact the epiphany Fedora package
  maintainer?
 
  Googling led me to believe that it wasgecko-ma...@redhat.com  but
  an e-mail to that address was rejected.
 
  Reason:5.2.1gecko-ma...@redhat.com... Mailbox disabled for
  this recipient
 
  In case whoever it is hangs out on this list, I want to know if
  there are plans to release a 2.27.x version of epiphany for F10.
  The epiphany developers say that there will be no more bug fixes
  for anything earlier than 2.27.x because the gecko based back end
  has been replaced with a Webkit based back end. Since F10 is still a
  supported version I think that there should be a 2.27.x version
  available and hopefully the bug I reported has been fixed.
 
  http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=592612
 
  Steve
 
 
 I think epiphany has been orphaned:
 but cannot find relevant post on devel*
 
Before I wrote my first e-mail, I found the post you are referring to
but I left the page and couldn't find it again to put into my e-mail. 

Anyhow, the suggestion was that epiphany was orphaned in the sense that
since the maintainer was gecko-maint and gecko was no longer the back
end, it didn't make sense for them to maintain it. A later post from
the gecko maintainers said that they had experience with Webkit and
would continue to be the maintainers.

I shall be really PO'd if epiphany gets dropped altogether. 

Do one thing and do it well.
Do one thing and do it well...

Steve

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Re: Epiphany package maintainer?

2009-08-23 Thread Steve Blackwell
On Sun, 23 Aug 2009 16:39:52 +0100
Frank Murphy (Frankly3D) frankl...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 23/08/09 16:37, Frank Murphy (Frankly3D) wrote:
 
 https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-August/msg00722.html
 

That's the one. Read all the follow-ups.

Steve

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Re: Epiphany package maintainer?

2009-08-23 Thread Steve Blackwell
On Sun, 23 Aug 2009 21:19:02 +0530
Rahul Sundaram sunda...@fedoraproject.org wrote:

 On 08/23/2009 08:45 PM, Steve Blackwell wrote:
  Anybody know how I can contact the epiphany Fedora package
  maintainer?
...
  In case whoever it is hangs out on this list, I want to know if
  there are plans to release a 2.27.x version of epiphany for F10.
  The epiphany developers say that there will be no more bug fixes
  for anything earlier than 2.27.x because the gecko based back end
  has been replaced with a Webkit based back end. Since F10 is still a
  supported version I think that there should be a 2.27.x version
  available and hopefully the bug I reported has been fixed.
  
  http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=592612
 
 2.27 is a unstable version/ development branch of 2.28. Since it
 requires a much newer version of several dependencies, it has no
 chance of being pushed as an update to Fedora 10.
 
 http://skvidal.wordpress.com/2008/07/25/packagename-ownerfedoraprojectorg/

That's what I was afraid of. The effect is that epiphany is not
maintained in F10. There won't be any bug fixes.

Steve

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Re: Epiphany package maintainer?

2009-08-23 Thread Steve Blackwell
On Sun, 23 Aug 2009 09:27:53 -0700
Peter Gordon pe...@thecodergeek.com wrote:

 On Sun, 2009-08-23 at 11:59 -0400, Steve Blackwell wrote:
  That's what I was afraid of. The effect is that epiphany is not
  maintained in F10. There won't be any bug fixes.
 
 That is certainly NOT the case. Fedora 10's Epiphany package, just as
 all F-10 packages, will stop being maintained only when it hits its
 End-of-Life in December. 
 
 There's a significant difference between pushing new major upstream
 versions to fix things, and simply applying patches/fixes on an
 as-needed basis to the current version. While we can't do the former,
 as Seth explained because of necessary updates to so many other
 dependencies, we will still happily do the latter as long as F10
 continues to be officially supported.

When I filed a bug

http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=592612

the response from the epiphany developers was

Thanks for taking the time to file this bug report. Can you reproduce
this problem with Epiphany 2.27.x with the WebKit backend?

Because the Gecko backend has been discontinued, there will be no more
bugfixes for versions 2.26 and earlier.

This plainly says  there will be no more bugfixes for version 2.26
and earlier. 

Now you say there will be bugfixes. Who am I to believe?

Steve

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Re: Epiphany package maintainer?

2009-08-23 Thread Steve Blackwell
On Sun, 23 Aug 2009 12:14:10 -0500
Mikkel L. Ellertson mik...@infinity-ltd.com wrote:

 Steve Blackwell wrote:
  
  When I filed a bug
  
  http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=592612
  
  the response from the epiphany developers was
  
  Thanks for taking the time to file this bug report. Can you
  reproduce this problem with Epiphany 2.27.x with the WebKit backend?
  
  Because the Gecko backend has been discontinued, there will be no
  more bugfixes for versions 2.26 and earlier.
  
  This plainly says  there will be no more bugfixes for version
  2.26 and earlier. 
  
  Now you say there will be bugfixes. Who am I to believe?
  
  Steve
  
 Both. The upstream developer is not going to fix bugs in 2.26 and
 earlier, but Fedora will backport bug fixes. This is not the only
 package they do this for. (Red Hat does even more of this.)
 
 Mikkel

I think I must have woken up in Bizzaro world today.

...not going to fix bugs in 2.26 and earlier but Fedora will backport
bug fixes. ...

I'm sure this makes sense to you but to me it reads that Fedora will
backport all the fixes the upstream developer is going to make... which
is zero!

No matter, the bottom line is that the problem I reported is not going
to get fixed in F10 which means that I have to swap over to Windows to
use LinkedIn until I change to F11 which I'll do once F12 is released.
Even then, the issue might still be there. Sigh

Steve

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Linux humor (depending on your point of view)

2009-08-06 Thread Steve Blackwell
http://xkcd.com/619/

Steve

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F10 SElinux issues

2009-08-03 Thread Steve Blackwell
Ever since I upgraded from F9 to F10 when F9 went EOL I've been having
lots of SElinux warnings. Here's one. I get at seemingly random times,
ie not when I log in.

Aug  3 09:06:50 steve setroubleshoot: SELinux is preventing
polkit-read-aut (polkit_auth_t) write to /var/log/gdm/:0-greeter.log
(xserver_log_t). For complete SELinux messages. run sealert -l
a4a0ec72-1ae8-46af-a27c-441b4a5f1cdb

setroubleshoot suggests restorecon -v '/var/log/gdm/:0-greeter.log'

# ls -lZ /var/log/gdm/:0-greeter.log
-rw-r--r--  gdm gdm
system_u:object_r:xserver_log_t:s0 /var/log/gdm/:0-greeter.log

# restorecon -v /var/log/gdm/:0-greeter.log

]# ls -lZ /var/log/gdm/:0-greeter.log
-rw-r--r--  gdm gdm
system_u:object_r:xserver_log_t:s0 /var/log/gdm/:0-greeter.log

ie no change

# tail /var/log/gdm/:0-greeter.log
Warning:  No symbols defined for I228 (keycode 228)
Warning:  No symbols defined for I230 (keycode 230)
Warning:  No symbols defined for I248 (keycode 248)
Warning:  No symbols defined for I249 (keycode 249)
Warning:  No symbols defined for I250 (keycode 250)
Warning:  No symbols defined for I251 (keycode 251)
Warning:  No symbols defined for I252 (keycode 252)
Warning:  No symbols defined for I253 (keycode 253)
Window manager warning: Buggy client sent a _NET_ACTIVE_WINDOW message
with a timestamp of 0 for 0x1200022 (Login Wind) Window manager
warning: meta_window_activate called by a pager with a 0 timestamp; the
pager needs to be fixed.

This computer is on a 2 machine home network, the other machine being a
Vista laptop and I have them connected via Samba. Is some client trying
to login from the laptop?

# rpm -qa | grep selinux
selinux-policy-3.5.13-67.fc10.noarch
libselinux-devel-2.0.78-1.fc10.i386
selinux-policy-targeted-3.5.13-67.fc10.noarch
libselinux-2.0.78-1.fc10.i386
libselinux-utils-2.0.78-1.fc10.i386
libselinux-python-2.0.78-1.fc10.i386

Any suggestions?

Thanks,
Steve

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Camera/F-spot problems

2009-07-31 Thread Steve Blackwell

It's been a while and several versions of Fedora since I tried this
but F-spot used to start automatically when I plugged my camera in to
a USB port. Now it doesn't but I see the appropriate USB messages in the
system log that show the device is recognized correctly.

What does happen is that after a minute or so I see a camera icon appear
on the desktop and I can click on the icon and a Nautilus window opens
with a message at the top saying this media contains digital photos and
a button that says Open F-spot Photo Manager. F-spot does not open
when I click on this button and there are no system messages.

I can open F-spot manually from the Applications menu but it does not
know that a camera is attached to the computer and I don't see a way to
tell it where to find the camera.

In the end this is just inconvenient because I can get to the picture
through the Nautilus window but does anyone else have similar problems
and/or any solutions?

$ uname -a
Linux steve.blackwell 2.6.27.25-170.2.72.fc10.i686 #1 SMP Sun Jun 21
19:03:24 EDT 2009 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux

$ rpm -qa | grep f-spot
f-spot-0.5.0.3-2.fc10.i386

Camera is a Cannon EOS 350D

Thanks,
Steve

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Preupgrade/Anaconda problem - 3rd time a charm?

2008-12-09 Thread Steve Blackwell
I've posted this question twice before but have not received any
replies.

I want to use preupgrade to go from F8 to F9.
I ran preupgrade, selected F9 and downloaded the data. When I rebooted
to complete the process, Anaconda started, correctly detected my
graphics card and started X. Unfortunately, Anaconda used the wrong
setting for my monitor which results in a blank screen with a Out of
Range message. I can CtrlAltF1,2,3,4 to see the various messages
and logs but I can see nothing on CtrlAltF7.

Q1. Where does Anaconda get the settings for the video card from?

Q2. Can I tell Anaconda to use the existing xorg.conf file?

Q3. Can I tell Anaconda to run in text mode?

Any other suggestions? My only other option appears to be to download
an F9 respin and burn a DVD.

Thanks,
Steve

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Re: Preupgrade/Anaconda problem - 3rd time a charm?

2008-12-09 Thread Steve Blackwell
 Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 
  Rahul Sundaram [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
  Steve Blackwell wrote:
  
   Q1. Where does Anaconda get the settings for the video card from?
 
   From Xorg which gets it from HAL
  
   Q2. Can I tell Anaconda to use the existing xorg.conf file?
 
  Don't think so. If it doesn't get auto detected properly, it is
  better to report the problem and get it fixed.
 
 So do I report this against Anaconda, Xorg or HAL? All the above?
 
   Q3. Can I tell Anaconda to run in text mode?
 
  Yep. Refer http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Anaconda/Options
 
 Thanks for the link. If I edit the grub entry and add text to the
 line, does that get passed on to Anaconda? I see that there is also a
 noprobe option. I'll try both of those tonight.

Editing the GRUB entry works fine.

Adding noprobe (without the quotes) was a non-starter as that causes
anaconda not to look for ANY hardware including hard drives.

Adding text started off a little more promising but didn't get much
further. I ended up with an error message that said:

The file createrepo-0.9.5-2.fc9.noarch.rpm cannot be opened. This is
due to a missing file, a corrupt package or corrupt media. Please
verify your installation source.

If you exit, your system will be left in an inconsistent state that
will likely require reinstallation.

Yikes! After some checking I saw that this was the first package it
tryed to download and install so I can still boot into my old F8 system.

On CtrlAltF3 there was this message:
Failed to get
http://www.gtlib.gatech.edu/pub/fedora.redhat/linus/releases/9/Fedora/i386.od/Packages/createrepo-0.9.5-2.fc9.noarch.rpm
from mirror 1/1, or downloaded file is corrupt.

I used another machine to go to this site and checked that the correct
createrepo package was in that location and it was. I checked that I
could download it. That seems to leave the network connection as the
problem.

How can I check if anaconda has set up the network correctly?
Any other suggestions?

Thanks,
Steve

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Re: Preupgrade/Anaconda problem - 3rd time a charm?

2008-12-09 Thread Steve Blackwell
 Rahul Sundaram [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 Steve wrote:
 
  So do I report this against Anaconda, Xorg or HAL? All the above?
 
 Just one bug against Anaconda would do. The maintainers can reassign
 if necessary.

Seems like someone beat me to it - by 2 years! And this bug is marked
as urgent!

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=218181

Added my comments.

Steve

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Re: Warning: rpmfusion nvidia driver needs a special xorg.conf setup.

2008-12-01 Thread Steve Blackwell
Linuxguy123 wrote:

 Some of you may know this, but I didn't and thus I'll share what I
 learned.

 The rpmfusion nvidia driver needs a special xorg.conf file.  It might
 not operate properly with a file that previously operated properly
 with say a livna sourced driver. 

I posted this last week but did not get any replies. Related?

Now that F8 is nearing its EOL, I decided to upgrade my F8 system to
F9.

I launched preupgrade, selected F9, and completed the download. When I
rebooted, anaconda launched but when X started, after it correctly
detected my graphics card, a nVidia 8800, it chose the wrong settings
either for the card or the monitor resulting in a blank screen.

I was able to ctrlalt F1 to see some anaconda messages and after
I rebooted again, I was able to boot back into into F8 with no problem.

Is there something I can add to the boot line to tell anaconda to use
my existing Xorg.conf file?

Thanks,
Steve

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Samba Vista

2008-07-30 Thread Steve Blackwell
I'm trying to use smbclient to look at a Vista box but I keep getting 

# smbclient -L user-pc -U Kellie
Password: I enter a_user password
session setup failed: NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE

I know the user/password combination is good.

I googled around and got the impression that Vista didn't play well
with Samba because of some authentication protocol that Vista uses but
I also got the impression that the problem was with older version of
Samba. I never could find a definitive answer. Does someone know for
sure?

Below I've put the output of 
# smbclient -L user-pc -U Kellie -d4

The bit that says 
Password: 
Doing spnego session setup (blob length=46)
got OID=1 3 6 1 4 1 311 2 2 10
got principal=null

looks a bit suspect but I don't really know what I'm looking at so it
could be perfectly OK. Any suggestion?

Thanks,
Steve

# smbclient --version
Version 3.0.30-0.fc8

# smbclient -L user-pc -U Kellie -d4
lp_load: refreshing parameters
Initialising global parameters
params.c:pm_process() - Processing configuration file
/etc/samba/smb.conf Processing section [global]
doing parameter workgroup = WORKGROUP
doing parameter server string = Steve's Samba Server Version %v
doing parameter preferred master = yes
doing parameter hosts allow = 127. 192.168.1.
doing parameter client ntlmv2 auth = yes
doing parameter log file = /var/log/samba/log.%m
doing parameter max log size = 50
doing parameter security = user
doing parameter passdb backend = tdbsam
doing parameter local master = no
doing parameter cups options = raw
doing parameter username map = /etc/samba/smbusers
pm_process() returned Yes
added interface ip=192.168.1.100 bcast=192.168.1.255 nmask=255.255.255.0
Client started (version 3.0.30-0.fc8).
Connecting to 192.168.1.147 at port 445
 session request ok
Password: 
Doing spnego session setup (blob length=46)
got OID=1 3 6 1 4 1 311 2 2 10
got principal=null
Got challenge flags:
Got NTLMSSP neg_flags=0x628a8215
  NTLMSSP_NEGOTIATE_UNICODE
  NTLMSSP_REQUEST_TARGET
  NTLMSSP_NEGOTIATE_SIGN
  NTLMSSP_NEGOTIATE_NTLM
  NTLMSSP_NEGOTIATE_ALWAYS_SIGN
  NTLMSSP_CHAL_ACCEPT_RESPONSE
  NTLMSSP_NEGOTIATE_NTLM2
  NTLMSSP_CHAL_TARGET_INFO
  NTLMSSP_NEGOTIATE_128
  NTLMSSP_NEGOTIATE_KEY_EXCH
NTLMSSP: Set final flags:
Got NTLMSSP neg_flags=0x60088215
  NTLMSSP_NEGOTIATE_UNICODE
  NTLMSSP_REQUEST_TARGET
  NTLMSSP_NEGOTIATE_SIGN
  NTLMSSP_NEGOTIATE_NTLM
  NTLMSSP_NEGOTIATE_ALWAYS_SIGN
  NTLMSSP_NEGOTIATE_NTLM2
  NTLMSSP_NEGOTIATE_128
  NTLMSSP_NEGOTIATE_KEY_EXCH
NTLMSSP Sign/Seal - Initialising with flags:
Got NTLMSSP neg_flags=0x60088215
  NTLMSSP_NEGOTIATE_UNICODE
  NTLMSSP_REQUEST_TARGET
  NTLMSSP_NEGOTIATE_SIGN
  NTLMSSP_NEGOTIATE_NTLM
  NTLMSSP_NEGOTIATE_ALWAYS_SIGN
  NTLMSSP_NEGOTIATE_NTLM2
  NTLMSSP_NEGOTIATE_128
  NTLMSSP_NEGOTIATE_KEY_EXCH
SPNEGO login failed: Logon failure
session setup failed: NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE

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