Hide the kittens and the babies, a message from your friendly KDE-SIG

2009-11-24 Thread Steven M. Parrish
For those brave souls still running or trying to run rawhide just wanted to 
let you know that KDE is broken. As we speak most Qt based apps will just 
crash with a message about a missing symbol.   To top that we are also 
preparing for KDE 4.4 beta 1; so don't expect a quick resolution, in fact 
things will get worse before they get better.  Look on the bright side, F12 is 
rock solid, and with your patience F13 will be even better.

We are shooting to have everything fixed by Monday the 30th, so please bear 
with us as we work to bring you another great KDE release.

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Bug Triage workflow for F13 and beyond

2009-11-18 Thread Steven M. Parrish
Today we celebrate another successful Fedora release (F12), congratulations to 
everyone. 

Never one to sit still development has already begun on F13, and with it comes 
a new bug triage work flow.

For bugs filed against F13(rawhide) and beyond the keyword Triaged will now 
be used to indicate that a bug report has been triaged.  BugZappers will no 
longer change the bug state to ASSIGNED, that will now be left in the hands of 
the package maintainers.

BugZappers will still be using the NEEDINFO flag and closing reports as 
duplicates.

The wiki will soon be updated to reflect these changes.

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Re: bug in fedora 11

2009-10-03 Thread Steven M. Parrish
 (0x7fd261c5e000)
 libXi.so.6 = /usr/lib64/libXi.so.6 (0x7fd261a54000)
 libXcursor.so.1 = /usr/lib64/libXcursor.so.1 (0x7fd261849000)
 libXcomposite.so.1 = /usr/lib64/libXcomposite.so.1
  (0x7fd261647000) libXdamage.so.1 = /usr/lib64/libXdamage.so.1
  (0x7fd261445000) libselinux.so.1 = /lib64/libselinux.so.1
  (0x7fd261226000) libpng12.so.0 = /usr/lib64/libpng12.so.0
  (0x7fd261001000) libpixman-1.so.0 = /usr/lib64/libpixman-1.so.0
  (0x7fd260dbb000) libz.so.1 = /lib64/libz.so.1 (0x7fd260ba6000)
 libexpat.so.1 = /lib64/libexpat.so.1 (0x7fd26097e000)
 /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x00362300)
 libcap.so.2 = /lib64/libcap.so.2 (0x7fd260779000)
 libi18npaperlx.so = /usr/lib64/
 openoffice.org/basis3.1/program/libi18npaperlx.so (0x7fd260573000)
 libbasegfxlx.so = /usr/lib64/
 openoffice.org/basis3.1/program/libbasegfxlx.so (0x7fd2602cd000)
 libSM.so.6 = /usr/lib64/libSM.so.6 (0x7fd2600c5000)
 libICE.so.6 = /usr/lib64/libICE.so.6 (0x7fd25fea9000)
 libi18nisolang1gcc3.so = /usr/lib64/
 openoffice.org/basis3.1/program/libi18nisolang1gcc3.so (0x7fd25fca2000)
 libi18nutilgcc3.so = /usr/lib64/
 openoffice.org/basis3.1/program/libi18nutilgcc3.so (0x7fd25fa8f000)
 libicuuc.so.40 = /usr/lib64/libicuuc.so.40 (0x7fd25f749000)
 libicudata.so.40 = /usr/lib64/libicudata.so.40 (0x7fd25e804000)
 libicule.so.40 = /usr/lib64/libicule.so.40 (0x7fd25e5cf000)
 libjvmaccessgcc3.so.3 = /usr/lib64/
 openoffice.org/basis3.1/program/../ure-link/lib/libjvmaccessgcc3.so.3(0x000
 07fd25e3c7000) libuno_salhelpergcc3.so.3 = /usr/lib64/
 openoffice.org/basis3.1/program/../ure-link/lib/libuno_salhelpergcc3.so.3(0
 x7fd25e1c3000) libcrypt.so.1 = /lib64/libcrypt.so.1
  (0x7fd25df8b000)
 libxcb.so.1 = /usr/lib64/libxcb.so.1 (0x7fd25dd7)
 libXau.so.6 = /usr/lib64/libXau.so.6 (0x7fd25db6d000)
 libattr.so.1 = /lib64/libattr.so.1 (0x7fd25d969000)
 libuuid.so.1 = /lib64/libuuid.so.1 (0x7fd25d764000)
 libfreebl3.so = /lib64/libfreebl3.so (0x7fd25d506000)
 ...end sample ldd details ...
 
 What is this?
 

 I would strongly recommend that you checkout https://bugzilla.redhat.com 

You may be able to find a bug report that already addresses this, if not you 
can open one.  That is the best way to get your issue to the appropriate 
people.

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Re: Looking for people who need guests.

2009-09-27 Thread Steven M. Parrish
 I'm looking to put some load on our new cloud environment.  This is a
 pre-pre-pre type setup.  The guests will go up, they'll go down.  You know
 the deal.  You'll only have this guest for a month or so but if you think
 you could use a guest, let me know.  Because right now the guests aren't
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I'll be glad to give one a spin.

FAS Name  Tuxbrewr

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Re: Whither KDELIBS-4.3?

2009-08-22 Thread Steven M. Parrish
 For the past few days, my system has wanted to update KTorrent, but it
 can't since a pre-requisite is KDELIBS-4.3 or greater. The only version
 that appears to be available is 4.2.4-6. Any idea when kdelibs-4.3 will be
 released? I realize that KTorrent isn't a huge issue, but still... if
 you've got an updated package available, you need the prerequisites
 available too... Just wondering when the new kdelibs pacakage will be
 released???

4.3 is in updates-testing atm.  It should make in into updates later this 
week.  Atleast that is the plan.

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Re: Seeking comments on my proposal

2009-08-19 Thread Steven M. Parrish
 On 08/18/2009 11:19 AM, Steven M. Parrish wrote:
  Got the outline of my proposal here
  https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SugarZilla
 
  I welcome any comments

 I dislike the idea of anonymous opening of bugs and anonymous commenting
 in bugzilla.  It's not clear from the proposal if that's a proposed
 feature or not.  Can you clarify if it is and if so, how you'll minimize
 the problem of:
 1) SPAM
 2) Bug reports with insufficient information to fix the problem with no
 point of contact to get additional information.

 -Toshio

I haven't had time to fully check out ABRT but are they requiring the user to 
have a valid bugzilla account?  If I remember the original discussion around 
ABRT at FUDCon Boston was not to require one.

SPAM can be handled through a captcha if needed.

As far as not being able to contact the reporter, that is why they have the 
option of being cc'd to the report.  They will be advised when filing the bug 
that without a point of contact if the developer has questions and cannot 
contact them that the bug could be closed as insufficient info.

There are still some finer points which need to be worked out.

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Re: Wan't to join and why

2009-08-18 Thread Steven M. Parrish
Toshio Kuratomi wrote:

 On 08/17/2009 03:48 PM, Steven M. Parrish wrote:
 Hi guys and gals,
 
 I am looking to join both the sysadmin-test and sysadmin-cvs groups.  Why
 you
 might ask?  Well I'll tell you.  I wan't to get more involved in Fedora.
 
 Here is my current Fedora resume...
 
 - BugZapper for both KDE and Packagekit.
 - Maintain 20+ packages and am a Sponsor in the packaging group.
 - Work closely with the OLPC and Sugar folks at getting and maintaining
 the packages in Fedora
 - Responsible for creating builds of F11 with Sugar specifically for the
 OLPC XO-1 (Hope to get an XO-1.5 soon) see
 http://wiki.laptop.org/go/F11_for_XO-1 for info on this.
 
 What I am looking to do now is create a very simplified bugzilla
 interface that can be used by OLPC users, mostly children, to report
 issues with Sugar
 Activities in Fedora.  Will develop in PHP and would like to develop and
 test it on one of the publictest servers.
 
 Also would like to help maintain the cvs servers and projects contained
 there.
 
 Any questions just ask.
 
 Is this intended to be deployed onto Fedora Infrastructure boxes
 eventually or just be developed/demoed on the publictest infrastructure?
  We haven't had development of known-non-Fedora stuff done previously
 but this might be a valid first case.  If it's intended to run on Fedora
 Infrastructure, we very much prefer developing them in python.  In fact,
 I don't think we have any non-python developed stuff.
 
 -Toshio

It is intended to run on Fedora infrastructure.  It is going to be an 
alternate front end to our current bugzilla instance.  It could be built 
upon to create different front ends for other user groups as well.

Developing it in Python will not be a problem.  I am just in the beginning 
design stage atm. 

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Re: Wan't to join and why

2009-08-18 Thread Steven M. Parrish
Rahul Sundaram wrote:

 On 08/18/2009 05:51 PM, Steven M. Parrish wrote:
 
 What I am looking to do now is create a very simplified bugzilla
 interface that can be used by OLPC users, mostly children, to report
 issues with Sugar
 Activities in Fedora.  Will develop in PHP and would like to develop
 and test it on one of the publictest servers.

 Also would like to help maintain the cvs servers and projects contained
 there.

 Any questions just ask.

 Is this intended to be deployed onto Fedora Infrastructure boxes
 eventually or just be developed/demoed on the publictest infrastructure?
  We haven't had development of known-non-Fedora stuff done previously
 but this might be a valid first case.  If it's intended to run on Fedora
 Infrastructure, we very much prefer developing them in python.  In fact,
 I don't think we have any non-python developed stuff.

 -Toshio
 
 It is intended to run on Fedora infrastructure.  It is going to be an
 alternate front end to our current bugzilla instance.  It could be built
 upon to create different front ends for other user groups as well.
 
 Developing it in Python will not be a problem.  I am just in the
 beginning design stage atm.
 
 Very interesting. A related project
 
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Bugzilla_Desktop_Client
 
 Rahul

Sounds like we both have similar goals here.  I think having both a OS based 
app and a simple web interface for our bugreporting is a great idea.  

Anything that makes it easier for normal users to report issues and give 
feedback will only lead to making Fedora a more user friendly distro.

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Re: Wan't to join and why

2009-08-18 Thread Steven M. Parrish
Paul W. Frields wrote:

 On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 09:15:48AM -0400, Steven M. Parrish wrote:
 Rahul Sundaram wrote:
 
  On 08/18/2009 05:51 PM, Steven M. Parrish wrote:
  
  What I am looking to do now is create a very simplified bugzilla
  interface that can be used by OLPC users, mostly children, to report
  issues with Sugar
  Activities in Fedora.  Will develop in PHP and would like to develop
  and test it on one of the publictest servers.
 
  Also would like to help maintain the cvs servers and projects
  contained there.
 
  Any questions just ask.
 
  Is this intended to be deployed onto Fedora Infrastructure boxes
  eventually or just be developed/demoed on the publictest
  infrastructure?
   We haven't had development of known-non-Fedora stuff done previously
  but this might be a valid first case.  If it's intended to run on
  Fedora
  Infrastructure, we very much prefer developing them in python.  In
  fact, I don't think we have any non-python developed stuff.
 
  -Toshio
  
  It is intended to run on Fedora infrastructure.  It is going to be an
  alternate front end to our current bugzilla instance.  It could be
  built upon to create different front ends for other user groups as
  well.
  
  Developing it in Python will not be a problem.  I am just in the
  beginning design stage atm.
  
  Very interesting. A related project
  
  https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Bugzilla_Desktop_Client
  
  Rahul
 
 Sounds like we both have similar goals here.  I think having both a OS
 based app and a simple web interface for our bugreporting is a great
 idea.
 
 Anything that makes it easier for normal users to report issues and give
 feedback will only lead to making Fedora a more user friendly distro.
 
 I know that there were folks in the Desktop SIG who were interested
 in a more friendly bug filing Web interface, as well as other
 possibilities for lowering the fright factor of Bugzilla.
 

Yes its something that was discussed at FudCon in January, but now that 
Sugar/OLPC is basing itself on Fedora I feel its important to get something 
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Seeking comments on my proposal

2009-08-18 Thread Steven M. Parrish

Got the outline of my proposal here  
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SugarZilla

I welcome any comments

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Re: Seeking comments on my proposal

2009-08-18 Thread Steven M. Parrish
Mel Chua wrote:

 Got the outline of my proposal here
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SugarZilla
 
 Nifty. My only comment: How can we make sure that the workflow/interface
 for SugarZilla is what its intended userbase needs? (It's easy for us to
 sit here and say yes, that will be better for 8-year-olds, but how do
 we know that?)
 
 Might be a good thing to get a Design team consultation on.
 
 --Mel

I had planned to get some design folks involved, in fact I will need help in 
that area.  I am shooting for the simplest interface possible that is able 
to gather the needed info.

Steven

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Wan't to join and why

2009-08-17 Thread Steven M. Parrish
Hi guys and gals,

I am looking to join both the sysadmin-test and sysadmin-cvs groups.  Why you 
might ask?  Well I'll tell you.  I wan't to get more involved in Fedora.

Here is my current Fedora resume...

- BugZapper for both KDE and Packagekit.
- Maintain 20+ packages and am a Sponsor in the packaging group.
- Work closely with the OLPC and Sugar folks at getting and maintaining the 
packages in Fedora
- Responsible for creating builds of F11 with Sugar specifically for the OLPC 
XO-1 (Hope to get an XO-1.5 soon) see http://wiki.laptop.org/go/F11_for_XO-1 
for info on this.

What I am looking to do now is create a very simplified bugzilla interface that 
can be used by OLPC users, mostly children, to report issues with Sugar 
Activities in Fedora.  Will develop in PHP and would like to develop and test 
it on one of the publictest servers.

Also would like to help maintain the cvs servers and projects contained there.

Any questions just ask. 

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Re: [Fedora-livecd-list] No space left on device during image creation

2009-08-06 Thread Steven M. Parrish
 I'm getting this error on my spins for x86_64 KDE live images (not
 for the i686 ones). Which device is meant here? On my local harddisks
 should be enough free space.
 Could this explain why the x86_64 images are ~40 megs bigger than the
 i686 ones?

  error: /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora: import read failed(-1).
  e2fsck 1.41.8 (11-July-2009)
  Pass 1: Checking inodes, blocks, and sizes
  Pass 2: Checking directory structure
  Pass 3: Checking directory connectivity
  Pass 4: Checking reference counts
  Pass 5: Checking group summary information
  F12-KDE-016-x86_: 88827/196608 files (0.1% non-contiguous),
  533419/786432 blocks e2image 1.41.8 (11-July-2009)
  resize2fs 1.41.8 (11-July-2009)
  /sbin/resize2fs: No space left on device while trying to
  resize /daten/LIVECD/tmp/imgcreate-Z0Z6zr/tmp-hVegM7/ext3fs.img
  Please run 'e2fsck
  -fy /daten/LIVECD/tmp/imgcreate-Z0Z6zr/tmp-hVegM7/ext3fs.img' to fix
  the filesystem after the aborted resize operation. Resizing the
  filesystem
  on /daten/LIVECD/tmp/imgcreate-Z0Z6zr/tmp-hVegM7/ext3fs.img to 532899
  (4k) blocks. e2fsck 1.41.8 (11-July-2009) Pass 1: Checking inodes,
  blocks, and sizes Pass 2: Checking directory structure Pass 3:
  Checking directory connectivity Pass 4: Checking reference counts
  Pass 5: Checking group summary information F12-KDE-016-x86_:
  88827/196608 files (0.1% non-contiguous), 533419/786432 blocks
  e2image 1.41.8 (11-July-2009) resize2fs 1.41.8 (11-July-2009)
  The filesystem is already 786432 blocks long.  Nothing to do!

 Sebastian

I was getting this error when building the OLPC releases.  Turned out I was 
running out of space in /var/tmp where it builds the images.  I have a small / 
with all the space in my /home.   created at temporary build dir in my $HOME 
and used the --tmpdir=dirname   option when creating the image.

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Re: Changing the default 32-bit x86 arch for Fedora 12

2009-06-17 Thread Steven M. Parrish
 On Tuesday 16 June 2009, Steven M. Parrish wrote:
  The OLPC folks have made a commitment use Fedora as the base for future
  releases for not only the XO-1.0 but for the new XO-1.5 which is still in
  development.

 Does use Fedora as the base mean they'll be using binary packages as is
 from Fedora, without rebuilding them?

Yes with the exception of the kernel OLPC uses stock fedora packages.  

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Re: Changing the default 32-bit x86 arch for Fedora 12

2009-06-16 Thread Steven M. Parrish
 Way back when in February [1], FESCo decided that for Fedora 11, i586 would
 be the default architecture, and for Fedora 12, it would be some variant of
 i686. It's time to follow through on that action item.

 I've submitted https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/F12X86Support. It
 defines the default arch as i686 + SSE2.

 Why?

 - Faster and more consistent FP math by using SSE2 registers
 - Allows for autovectorization by GCC where necessary
 - More clearly delineates our support set of targets, sticking true
   to forwards innovation, not necessarily legacy support

 What CPUs do we lose that F11 supports?

 - Intel i586 (all)
 - Intel Pentium Pro
 - Intel Pentium II
 - Intel Pentium III
 - 32-bit AMD Athlon
 - AMD Geode
 - VIA C3
 - Transmeta Crusoe

 Does this lose the PAE/non-PAE kernel split?

 - Alas, no.

 Will a Fedora rebuilt in this manner work on ...

 - OLPC 1.0? No.
 - OLPC 1.5? Yes.
 - Atom? Yes.

 A seconday arch could be done for these older CPUs, if someone is
 interested enough.

 Comments? Flames? Predictions of doom?

 Bill

 [1] http://bpepple.fedorapeople.org/fesco/FESCo-2009-02-05.html

The OLPC folks have made a commitment use Fedora as the base for future 
releases for not only the XO-1.0 but for the new XO-1.5 which is still in 
development.  No we go and pull the rug out from under them by saying F12+ 
will not support the processor on the more than one million already deployed 
XOs.  Also over the past few months much of work has gone into packaging the 
Sugar Desktop and related activity packages for Fedora. 

I would instead propose that instead of killing off i586 that instead we make 
i686+SSE2 a new primary arch.  This will allow us to not only optimize Fedora 
for i686+SSE2 but still maintain a viable arch i586 for not only the XO-1.0 
but also for the many older but still usable machines that would otherwise be 
excluded from using Fedora. 

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Re: KPackageKit fail

2009-06-04 Thread Steven M. Parrish
We are aware of the kpackagekit issue and are awaiting a release from the 
upstream developers.  It should be released later today and after a bit of 
testing I will get it into the repo asap.

SMP

 I'm testing Rawhide with latest updates and KPackageKit fails to do
 updates, I get this error log:
 http://fpaste.org/paste/13851

 It is works for you haven't tested it please do, if it works for you
 then ignore this message, if not then reply if you need some more
 feedback from me and I will open a new bug report then.


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Re: Maintainer Responsibilities

2009-06-02 Thread Steven M. Parrish
 Hello,

 I don't want to start a long thread, but just to ask a couple questions for
 my own clarification. Does a maintainer's responsibilities end with
 packaging bugs? IOW, if there is a problem in the package that is _broken
 code_ do they need to do something about it or is it acceptable for them to
 close the bug and say talk to upstream? Do we want those bugs open to track
 when the bug is fixed in the distro? I'll accept whatever the answer is,
 I'm just curious.

 Thanks,
 -Steve

This is from the official Bugzappers page  
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/StockBugzillaResponses#Upstreaming



The bug is not a packaging bug, the package maintainer has no plans to work on 
this in the near future, and there is an upstream bug tracking system other 
than the Red Hat Bugzilla.

Thank you for the bug report. At the moment, the Fedora developers are 
busy fixing other issues and may not have time to work on this one. The best 
way to make sure your problem will get looked on is to report it to the 
authors of the program. Most upstream authors use a bug tracking system like 
Bugzilla, and more people who know the code will be looking at the bug report 
there. 

The upstream bug tracking system to use is: 
 

You are requested to add the bugzilla link here for tracking purposes. 
Please make sure the bug isn't already in the upstream bug tracker before 
filing it. 



Maintainers should be free to either fix it locally (time permitting) and 
upstream the patch or request that the bug be filed at the upstream projects 
tracker for the upstream developers to resolve it.

If it is sent upstream the bug is closed as UPSTREAM and our local report is 
cross-referenced to the upstream one.  That way the maintainer and all 
interested parties can follow its progress.

SMP

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Re: Dumbass KDE 4.2 Compilation Question

2009-02-05 Thread Steven M. Parrish
On Thursday 05 February 2009 15:58:10 homb...@tips-q.com wrote:
 I thought that I would compile kde 4.2 in developer mode.
 That is, the files are installed in the developer
 directory. Thus I can test KDE 4.2 in advance of installing
 it to the system.

 The question is, if I move the installation to the system
 directories, am I going to break anything? Will an
 ldconfig repair any damage?

 I guess that I should have queried before I was more
 than halfway done; Fire - ready - aim.

 Thanks

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You should follow the instructions here: 
http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/KDE4

This will install a local copy to can log into from your user account and will 
leave the system version alone.  

Steven

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Eclipse not working on F10

2008-12-23 Thread Steven M. Parrish
I am having an issue with Eclipse failing to start on F10.

Here is what I am getting when running from konsole...

CompilerOracle: exclude 
org/eclipse/core/internal/dtree/DataTreeNode.forwardDeltaWith
CompilerOracle: exclude 
org/eclipse/jdt/internal/compiler/lookup/ParameterizedMethodBinding.init
CompilerOracle: exclude 
org/eclipse/cdt/internal/core/dom/parser/cpp/semantics/CPPTemplates.instantiateTemplate
CompilerOracle: exclude 
org/eclipse/cdt/internal/core/pdom/dom/cpp/PDOMCPPLinkage.addBinding
CompilerOracle: exclude 
org/python/pydev/editor/codecompletion/revisited/PythonPathHelper.isValidSourceFile
CompilerOracle: exclude 
org/python/pydev/ui/filetypes/FileTypesPreferencesPage.getDottedValidSourceFiles



then it just fails.

Any ideas?


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Re: Eclipse not working on F10

2008-12-23 Thread Steven M. Parrish
On Tuesday 23 December 2008 09:10:48 Andrew Overholt wrote:
 * Steven M. Parrish smparr...@shallowcreek.net [2008-12-23 09:06]:
  I am having an issue with Eclipse failing to start on F10.

 Try running with the -clean option.  If that doesn't work, try moving
 ~/.eclipse out of the way:  mv ~/.eclipse{,.bak20081223}; eclipse .  If
 *that* doesn't work, run with -consolelog -debug and paste the output
 into a bug at bugzilla.redhat.com.

 Thanks,

 Andrew

Thanks Andrew,

Turns out I there was a conflict between me running Eclipse x86_64 and the 
default JRE I had installed was 32bit.  Removed the 32bit JRE and set the 
default to the 64bit one using  alternatives --config java.

Now Eclipse is running great!

Steven

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Re: Eclipse not working on F10

2008-12-23 Thread Steven M. Parrish
On Tuesday 23 December 2008 09:10:48 Andrew Overholt wrote:
 * Steven M. Parrish smparr...@shallowcreek.net [2008-12-23 09:06]:
  I am having an issue with Eclipse failing to start on F10.

 Try running with the -clean option.  If that doesn't work, try moving
 ~/.eclipse out of the way:  mv ~/.eclipse{,.bak20081223}; eclipse .  If
 *that* doesn't work, run with -consolelog -debug and paste the output
 into a bug at bugzilla.redhat.com.

 Thanks,

 Andrew

Thanks for the suggestions.  Nothing seemed to work so I created the bug 
report.

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=477766

Steven

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Re: KDE 4.1 task bar.

2008-08-19 Thread Steven M. Parrish
On Tuesday 19 August 2008 07:45:57 am Mark Haney wrote:
 Well I've asked on a couple of other lists, but no luck so I'm hoping
 someone here knows the answer.  I just moved to KDE4 and I want to get
 the default KDE3.5 task bar behaviour back.

 In other words I don't want listed on my taskbar every item that's open
 unless it's open on the desktop I'm currently on.  If I move an item to
 another desktop I want that task bar item to only display on that
 desktop when I click to it.

 Anyone know how?


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Right click on taskbar  -- task manager settings -- then check show only 
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