Re: Fedora 11 network share browsing using Natuilus with Samba - Fixed?
KC8LDO kc8...@arrl.net writes: It seems many ISP's are now using DNS redirection in place of simply returning an error message that the URL can't be found with the appropriate error code. You would do well to ignore any ISP-offered server. Fedora has the most up to date stable bind/named offered and bind will be kept up to date via yum. That is far more than any ISP nameserver I've seem. Most are literally a decade out of date, mangle any newer record types, and in the case of morally corrupt ISP's, may even perform a man-in-the-middle attack on the DNS data. Just ingnore their servers. You'll be happy you did. -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht If the airwaves belong to the public why does the public only get 3 non-overlapping WIFI channels? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: running *only* NFSv4 on f12 produces rpc.mountd error
Robert P. J. Day rpj...@crashcourse.ca writes: #MOUNTD_NFS_V1=no #MOUNTD_NFS_V2=no #MOUNTD_NFS_V3=no so i uncomment all those lines to (allegedly) disable all earlier version support and: Starting NFS mountd: Usage: rpc.mountd [-F|--foreground] [-h|--help] [-v|--version] [-d kind|--debug kind] [-o num|--descriptors num] [-f exports-file|--exports-file=file] [-p|--port port] [-V version|--nfs-version version] [-N version|--no-nfs-version version] [-n|--no-tcp] [-H ha-callout-prog] [-s|--state-directory-path path] [-g|--manage-gids] [-t num|--num-threads=num] I put a bugzilla in on this back in the FC4 or 5 days. The MOUNTD_NFS_V1=no is the error. The current rpc.mound doesn't have any --no-nfs-version 1 flag and is complaining about that. (This v1 flag stuff should really be taken out of /etc/sysconfig/nfs as well as /etc/init.d/nfs . To be nfsv4-only you will also want to add these other things to the conf file. /etc/sysconfig/nfs: # # As a test, don't allow any nfs v1,v2,v3 service. Only allow v4 # # this causes errors. /etc/inint.d/nfs Script mainanance issue. # MOUNTD_NFS_V1=NO MOUNTD_NFS_V2=no MOUNTD_NFS_V3=no # don't allow rpc.nfsd to process v2 or v3 requests either. RPCNFSDARGS=-N 2 -N 3 # we'd like to say 0, but that means kill the daemons including the nfs4 one. RPCNFSDCOUNT=1 # # end # -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht If the airwaves belong to the public why does the public only get 3 non-overlapping WIFI channels? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Cannot open www.netflix.com
Kaustubh Gadkari kaustubh.gadk...@gmail.com writes: I just installed Fedora 12 x86_64. Everything works fine, except that I cannot access www.netflix.com in any browser (I tried Firefox, Konqueror and Chrome). I can access the site from Windows, as well as Ubuntu. Has anyone else faced the same problem? Nope. F12 x86_64 is running on all my machines and www.netflix.com displays just fine. I'd suspect some problems with name resolution. Try putting this in /etc/hosts and see if that fixes it. If it does, you may want to stop using your ISP's dns server and running a caching server yourself. I've never seen an ISP do as good a job as one would get by running the current bind/named oneself. 208.75.79.17 www.netflix.com -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht If the airwaves belong to the public why does the public only get 3 non-overlapping WIFI channels? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: 8 GB Flash drive formatted at 3.7 GB
Aaron Konstam akons...@sbcglobal.net writes: I think there is another problem with having pen drives formatted ext3 or ext4. Pen drives can only tolerate a finite number of writes before they crap out. Any format that involves journaling will increase the number of writes to the pen drive and hasten its failure. I don't know if the problem is that bad in practice. Ted Ts'o has page about ext4 on SSD's and it sounds like wear is a concern, but in practice the media lasts longer than you'll want to use it for other reasons. http://thunk.org/tytso/blog/2009/03/01/ssds-journaling-and-noatimerelatime/ -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht If the airwaves belong to the public why does the public only get 3 non-overlapping WIFI channels? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [OT] LCD Display and earthquakes .....
Hiisi very-c...@rambler.ru writes: 2009/12/20 Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com: This is OT...but wonder if anyone has experienced or see this before. My older Samsung SyncMaster 172t is hooked to a system I use mainly for running SlingPlayer. Part of the upper left quadrant had what could be called a smear patter or smudge pattern. It isn't from any type of burn in. But looked like what you see if you run fingers around on the screen...only permanent. It had been like this for a long time. Anyway, I didn't have the monitor turned on last night when Taiwan was hit by a 6.8 earthquake. It registered a 4.3 in Taipei and other than drawers opening and the TV rolling away we had no damage. But, when I turned the monitor on this AM the smear pattern was gone. So, a shake-table is a good repair tool? :-) It's a Russian way of repairing things - smash it! A rubber mallet will fix many a dirty contact. So will a bit of Cramolin (aka tuner cleaner) with a lot less wear and tear on the device. -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht If the airwaves belong to the public why does the public only get 3 non-overlapping WIFI channels? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: To Timothy Murphy
Timothy Murphy gayle...@eircom.net writes: I suspect the reason may be that I mix up two email addresses. The reason I do this is that it is the only way I have found to get round my college department's mailman filter, to allow me stay in bed all day and send students problems from home. Check your posting's headers sometime. X-RedHat-Spam-Score: 1.661 * (AWL,RCVD_NUMERIC_HELO) Redhat's host thinks your school's host sends a numeric string for the HELO instead of the proper hostname when it connects. Ideally the hostname given with the HELO would be the same as one gets when doing a reverse DNS for the mail's originating IP. -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht If the airwaves belong to the public why does the public only get 3 non-overlapping WIFI channels? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
disk moves from /dev/sdd to /dev/sde
I'm seeing something strange where a disk appears to change from /dev/sdd to /dev/sde under f12. I have a motherboard (Asus M3A78T) that appears to have multiple onboard disk controllers. When I boot with no external storage plugged into the USB, my hard disks are assigned sda, sdb, sdc sdd. When I boot with, say, a flash drive, camera or cell phone attached the external device gets the sdd name and my last disk gets the name sde. Now, that in itself doesn't cause any problems because I don't have the disk sdX names wired into anything. What is a problem is that after booting, something unknown (perhaps an ATA reset?) causes the disk letters to be re-assigned just as if it was at boot time. If I have some flash-like external storage plugged in my last disk gets shifted to /dev/sde. At that point programs like smartmon that are looking at the disk under the old name fail to find it and generate an error. smartmon -a /dev/sde does show the disk under it's new name, but even the kernel appears to look for the disk under its old name. I see lots of the following mailed to me by chron: /etc/cron.hourly/zzzdo-backup: /dev/dm-0: read failed after 0 of 4096 at 0: Input/output error /dev/dm-0: read failed after 0 of 4096 at 0: Input/output error How do I nail down the disk numbering a bit tighter so that things don't move around after boot-time? -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht If the airwaves belong to the public why does the public only get 3 non-overlapping WIFI channels? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: mirrors.fedoraproject.org problem?
Itamar Reis Peixoto ita...@ispbrasil.com.br writes: On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 11:29 PM, Kevin Martin kevi...@ameritech.net wrote: Is there a problem right now with mirrors.fedoraproject.org? I can't access any mirrors. Thanks Kevin same problem for me, I have created a ipv6 tunnel and worked fine. There is something not quite right though, at least for me. I've watched IPv6 funnies with wireshark. (The trace is attached in the bugzilla below.) I'm seeing a problem with lost packets (and hangs) when talking to yum mirrors over ipv6. Moving from a static handconfigured tunnel to an automatic tunnel fixed things, but only because the IPv6 connection is now no longer as well prefered by programs as the ipv4 connection. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=539563 Maybe there is a general tunnel or just ipv6 problem in the kernel that folks are just starting to see since IPv6 is just starting to be used by more linux users? -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht If the airwaves belong to the public why does the public only get 3 non-overlapping WIFI channels? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: disk moves from /dev/sdd to /dev/sde
Rick Stevens ri...@nerd.com writes: The only way to ensure you're talking to the same drive is to use its UUID. Most filesystems and devices on Fedora now have UUIDs associated with them and most of the necessary utilities support it. For example, your /etc/fstab can specify a device either via device name (/dev/sda1), label (LABEL=somelabel) or UUID (UUID=weird-hex-string). Thanks. I (at the /etc/fstab level) do use a label that goes with the drive, mainly the lvm VG and LV names. The problem is that the lvm mapper *internally* must still use the name that the drive had when the computer first booted. It gets confused when the drive gets renamed at runtime (long after boot). I sure wish there was a standard on the order in which things get scanned. Even network NICs vary. On Dell 1850s and 1950s, the PCI bus was scanned for NICs before the on-board stuff, so any PCI NICs got the first ethX numbers. The bigger 2850/2950 machines scanned the on-boards first. GR! It's enough to drive one absolutely mad at times. Ditto. I have my machine dual ported and I'd really like eth0 to be the internal ethernet and eth1 to be the external. (Some programs like multicast progs seem to default to the first ethernet and it would be nice for me not to spew packets towards the public internet.) -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht If the airwaves belong to the public why does the public only get 3 non-overlapping WIFI channels? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Bind Problem in Fedora 12
Mike Dwiggins m...@azdwiggins.com writes: I lost a portion of a motherboard on a Fedora 11 server and decided to build up the replacement in Fedora 12. I was still able to access the old system and as the both announce that they are running Bind 9.6.1 I just copied over all of my config file. The Fedora 12 machine is rejecting everything in /etc/pki/dnssec-keys as Unknown Option. Anyone have any ideas on this? Deja vu. Might it be an editing error such as this? http://www.mail-archive.com/fedora-list@redhat.com/msg58248.html -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht If the airwaves belong to the public why does the public only get 3 non-overlapping WIFI channels? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: The Phantom Update
Rahul Sundaram sunda...@fedoraproject.org writes: If they are following advice, then they should follow my advice as written in detail at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Bugs_and_feature_requests I'm not usually a fan of adding programs and hand-holding wrappers where a simple web page would, but in the case of bug reporting, maybe a bit of programatic hand-holding would prevent duplicate bugs. Another advantage might be that doing the bug report composition on the client-side instead of server-side (like bugzilla) is that the OS version, rpm version, lshw and/or lspci, Xorg.log would be avaible and could be appended automatically. Maybe this could be a summer-of-code idea? -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht If the airwaves belong to the public why does the public only get 3 non-overlapping WIFI channels? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Google Chrome repo now available
Rahul Sundaram sunda...@fedoraproject.org writes: You can use http://spot.fedorapeople.org/chromium/ Thanks. Yes, I've been happily using that one for a while. It is pretty darn usable. Do you by any chance know what keeps it out of the normal repositories? Was it because the upstream was in a pre-release state? -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht If the airwaves belong to the public why does the public only get 3 non-overlapping WIFI channels? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Selinux problems
James Allsopp jamesaalls...@googlemail.com writes: Yes, it seems to have worked, thank you! Good to hear it was something simple like that. (I'm still breaking selinux permissions all the time here, so I'm becoming very familiar with using relabel or restorecon -rv /. It takes a while to get used to walking around the filesystem delicately.) -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht If the airwaves belong to the public why does the public only get 3 non-overlapping WIFI channels? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Installing Fedora-12 from USB
Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com writes: If you keep anything vital to system operation in root's home directory you are in a small minority. The filesystem information is in /etc/fstab, if that's gone you're in a rescue disk boot anyway. Depending on what login in the then current instantiation does, it may or may not even let you log in if home doesn't exist. If $PATH takes you to a directory that can't be read because of a failed disk it could hang you forever (think $HOME/bin). There may not be anything important in root's home, but the existence of it itself could be important. The stuff I keep in /root that would be nice to have access to is notes mostly and aliases that my fingers expect to have available (like ll etc). There are also key remappings to put the keys back to something resembling a vt100. -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht If the airwaves belong to the public why does the public only get 3 non-overlapping WIFI channels? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Google Chrome repo now available
Steven Stern subscribed-li...@sterndata.com writes: The repo is installed when installing the new, officially supported Chrome beta from http://www.google.com/chrome/index.htm I was intending to install it until I got to the licensing agreement. Yow. What is all that rubbish about? I see that do no evil doesn't extend to trying to make someone's head explode from forcing one to read inscrutable legalese. I think I'll wait for a GPL-ed or BSD version where I can actually understand what the contract is all about without hiring a lawyer. -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht If the airwaves belong to the public why does the public only get 3 non-overlapping WIFI channels? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Installing Fedora-12 from USB
Gene Heskett gene.hesk...@verizon.net writes: What is the rational for demanding that /root be a directory on /, and not a separate partition? See at: root's home dir has traditionally been / just to ensure that it is alway present and an emergency login is likely to suceed without error. Putting it in the rootfs instead of, say a /home partition, is just more of the same hedging. Sure, you might be able to get away with putting root on the non-root partition when things are working well, but I suspect you'll be cursing yourself the first time the system coughs up a hairball and can't mount ~root/ and asks you to perform brain surgery on the filesystem. (I do have a few aliases for root that makes life nicer and the anacondia install logs are nice to look at also if one needs to mkfs a trashed fs with the same format flags and repopulate from the last backup. -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht If the airwaves belong to the public why does the public only get 3 non-overlapping WIFI channels? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Selinux problems
James Allsopp jamesaalls...@googlemail.com writes: I keep getting this SELinux issue, This is a new install of Fedora 12, and I just copied all of my home directory back to this machine from an external after install. I've tried running restorecon /home but no change. ... You can execute the following command as root to relabel your computer system: touch /.autorelabel; reboot Did you read the above? Did you do it? -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht If the airwaves belong to the public why does the public only get 3 non-overlapping WIFI channels? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
su hangs for 30 seconds
As of a day or so ago su has started hanging for 30 seconds. So has the lock screen. Jiggling the mouse unblanks the monitor and shows me the backdrop picture but the password entry box doesn't appear for 30 seconds. I don't believe I mucked with anything PAM related, but there were a few yum updates in the last few days. Is anyone else seeing this? -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht If the airwaves belong to the public why does the public only get 3 non-overlapping WIFI channels? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: su hangs for 30 seconds
Roberto Ragusa m...@robertoragusa.it writes: Joachim Backes wrote: On 12/05/2009 01:32 PM, Hiisi wrote: 2009/12/5 Wolfgang S. Rupprechtwolfgang.ruppre...@gmail.com: As of a day or so ago su has started hanging for 30 seconds. So has the lock screen. Jiggling the mouse unblanks the monitor and shows me the backdrop picture but the password entry box doesn't appear for 30 seconds. I don't believe I mucked with anything PAM related, but there were a few yum updates in the last few days. Is anyone else seeing this? I have the same problem for a couple of month (don't remember exactly how long it is) on my F11 (32 bit). I've asked it already on this list but had no response. I had similar problems in the past (with sudo / not su), and the reason was an error in the network controls (I tried to change the hostname by editing /etc/sysconfig/network, but forgot all other places to edit). This kind of delays are often DNS timeouts. If the network configuration is wrong, trivial things like printing last unsuccessfull login on 02-12-2009 from abcd.example.com take 15-30-60 seconds. Hmm. No 6 hours after posting this, the problem cleared up. I'm temped to finger the selinux-targeted-policy that I installed from updates-testing for clearing things up. That was the only change in the intervening time. As to the DNS issue. Bingo. /etc/resolv.conf to be exact still had an old IPv6 address in it. Oops. I thought that the resolver should failover and stay locked to the best dns server fast than 30 seconds. I see I'm going to have to figure out why it took so long. Thanks for reminding me to double check. search wsrcc.com nameserver 2001:5a8:4:7d0::1 nameserver 192.83.197.1 nameserver ::1 nameserver 127.0.0.1 -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht If the airwaves belong to the public why does the public only get 3 non-overlapping WIFI channels? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Getting rid of /boot
Timothy Murphy gayle...@eircom.net writes: Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: But the point is taken. There seem to be quite a few posts from folks that make their lives needlessly complex by mucking with the defaults and that ends up breaking something downstream. Are you saying that something is broken downstream if you don't use LVM? With respect, that is nonsense. I was just trying to say that the installation dialog makes it too easy and therefore encourages people to change the defaults when in fact they would be better off leaving things alone. Sure you can run without lvm. Sure you can put home on a different partition. Sure you can add other repositories during installation. The problem with doing all that is it takes you off the well-trodden path. For one, the default install is going to be the best tested configuration. For another, many newbies are encouraged to muck with the defaults without fully understanding the ramifications. -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht If the airwaves belong to the public why does the public only get 3 non-overlapping WIFI channels? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Getting rid of /boot
Marko Vojinovic vvma...@gmail.com writes: And I was just about to ask what exactly is broken downstream... :-) I've been driving several Fedora versions on several machines for several years now with a custom-partitioned disks (simple setups, typically just swap, / and /home, no LVM or anything such), and nothing downstream seemed broken, ever. AFAICS, it is completely safe to not use LVM if you know you won't be resizing partitions afterwards. And life is simpler if the hard drive starts dying or something... ;-) Did you get selinux working or did you just turn it off in frustration becauce putting thing in non-default places broke the stock selinux policies? -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht If the airwaves belong to the public why does the public only get 3 non-overlapping WIFI channels? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Getting rid of /boot
Marc Wilson m...@cox.net writes: Can't imagine there's any reason for it, when all you have to do is structure the system reasonably in the first place. All the failed upgrade scenarios (why do people bother with preupgrade in the first place?) seem to involve people thinking they know better than the automated partitioning tools. The last f11-f12 preupgrade also failed with installation defaults from a clean (wipe the whole disk type) f11 install. But the point is taken. There seem to be quite a few posts from folks that make their lives needlessly complex by mucking with the defaults and that ends up breaking something downstream. -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht If the airwaves belong to the public why does the public only get 3 non-overlapping WIFI channels? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
f12 eclipse and adroid ADT errors
I tried to install the f12 eclipse and use it with the android ADT via the instructions at http://developer.android.com/sdk/eclipse-adt.html . When I followed the Eclipse 3.5 instructions it bombed after the add https://dl-ssl.google.com/android/eclipse/; step with the following error: Cannot complete the install because one or more required items could not be found. Software being installed: Android Development Tools 0.9.4.v200910220141-17704 (com.android.ide.eclipse.adt.feature.group 0.9.4.v200910220141-17704) Missing requirement: Android Development Tools 0.9.4.v200910220141-17704 (com.android.ide.eclipse.adt.feature.group 0.9.4.v200910220141-17704) requires 'org.eclipse.gef 0.0.0' but it could not be found This is totally incrutable to me. What is it trying to tell me it wants loaded and from where? Is the fact that this is missing from f12 eclipse but installed in the oficial eclipse distribution from http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/ a bugzilla bug? -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht If the airwaves belong to the public why does the public only get 3 non-overlapping WIFI channels? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: changing GDM background image on F12
Todd Zullinger t...@pobox.com writes: As the subject says, he's trying to change the background for the GDM screen. Since GDM doesn't provide a panel, there isn't really a convenient way to browse to system-preferences-appearance... :) Using gconftool-2 is generally the best way to achieve this, and works fine for me on F-12 (as it has in past releases). Why it's not working for Fred remains to be seen. You can also set it as a user's background via the normal preferences setting and then make that the system default (via the bottom Make Default button). -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht If the airwaves belong to the public why does the public only get 3 non-overlapping WIFI channels? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F12 EEEPC 1000H WLAN with hidden SSID no go
Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com writes: Actually WPA2 with 802.1X authentication is REALLY tight. No MITM will crack EAP TLS (EAP TLS is a little different than the TLS used in the most recent attack). Then use AES CCMP (not TKIP). And there we have the real way in protecting a wifi access point: turn off WEP, WPA (v1), and TKIP (under WPA2). Leave only WPA2 and CCMP. Then let the computer choose a 64-bit hex number for the shared key. Too bad the good advice is always drowned out by the hordes that claim hiding SID's and changing port number on ssh are the way to get security. (For ssh turn off everything but RSA and DSA -- this way the computer chooses a strong password (really a secret key) for you.) Of course your management frames are not protected. That is 802.11w that will soon be in products BTW, I worked on the 802.11 standards. I use past tense, as in June my management had me move over to work on 802.15 standards. (I was in Atlanta last week for the 802 meeting). Thank you for speaking up! Will the new protocols require any HW support or are they drop-in replacements on current wifi nodes? Will all the packets now be cryptographically protected? -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht If the airwaves belong to the public why does the public only get 3 non-overlapping WIFI channels? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F12 Bind and Dnssec
Ed Gurski e...@gurski.com writes: Found the problem. It wasn't anything I waas looking at. Instead it was the file /etc/pki/dnssec-keys/named.dnssec.keys file that was corrupted? I wonder what else is corrupted. My personal feeling is that corruptions and mysterious bugs like this are serious enough that one should first figure out what is going on before wasting time chasing other bugs created by a flakey system. I still get no valid DS resolving xx, so I'm not sure what else I need to do... Are the other dns config files ok? The stock BIND config in f12 should work fine. Start with that and then slowly fold your local changes in and see where it stops working. Are you trying to run dnssec on your local zones and forgot to put a DS record in the parent zone of some subzone? -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht If the airwaves belong to the public why does the public only get 3 non-overlapping WIFI channels? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Can't control flash player (32 bits)
Andre Robatino an...@bwh.harvard.edu writes: I see this on every Hulu video, using the 64-bit flash plugin on x86_64. Fortunately, I can still control the video using the keyboard - for example, space bar to pause/play and up/down arrows to control the volume. I think but am not absolutely sure that the problem started after installing Nvidia's video driver from Rpmfusion (akmod-nvidia, adding the nouveau.modeset=0 kernel option, and running setsebool -P allow_execstack on). I see this problem Radeon-based frame buffers too. It isn't just an nvidea problem. I noticed spacebar worked to start/stop the video but didn't realize up/down arrow controlled volume. That should be handy. Thanks! -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht If the airwaves belong to the public why does the public only get 3 non-overlapping WIFI channels? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F12 Bind and Dnssec
Ed Gurski e...@gurski.com writes:
forwarders {
// OpenDNS
208.67.222.222;
208.67.220.220;
dnssec-enable yes;
dnssec-validation yes;
dnssec-lookaside . trust-anchor dlv.isc.org.;
};
};
Try:
...
forwarders {
// OpenDNS
208.67.222.222;
208.67.220.220;
};
dnssec-enable yes;
dnssec-validation yes;
dnssec-lookaside . trust-anchor dlv.isc.org.;
};
You had the dnssec-* stuff inside your forwarders list by mistake.
-wolfgang
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Re: F12 Bind and Dnssec
Ed Gurski e...@gurski.com writes: I noticed that early this morning, changed it and still had the same problem. I'm wondering if SELinux is getting in the way? It is still saying expected IP address near 'dnssec-enable'? This is after a service dns restart? You are really editing /etc/named.conf and there isn't a typo somewhere? That doesn't feel like an selinux issue at all. It seems like the BIND parser thinks you are giving it the dnssec-enable in the context where it was expecting an address. I wonder if named-checkconf will tell you anything useful. -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht If the airwaves belong to the public why does the public only get 3 non-overlapping WIFI channels? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Does f12 bind take a long time getting up to speed?
Tom Horsley tom.hors...@att.net writes: It is certainly supposed to be. I have network enabled and NetworkManager disabled, and eth0 configured as static and set to come up on boot. FYI: It is possible to run NetworkMangler and have the network behave sanely during boot. echo NETWORKWAIT=yes /etc/sysconfig/network It isn't clear why the fedora default config has all the nework daemons intentionally fail at boot. -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht If the airwaves belong to the public why does the public only get 3 non-overlapping WIFI channels? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora-release RPMS ?
Rahul Sundaram sunda...@fedoraproject.org writes: On 11/24/2009 03:00 AM, Jim wrote: What is the latest fedora-release and fedora-release-notes rpms. I have ; fedora-release-12-2 fedora-release-notes-12.0.2-1.fc12 I'm not getting any updates and a lot of can't find a lot of fedora repos # yum clean metadata Try again. If that doesn't work, post the output of Is this one of the few times when a 'yum clean all' is a good idea? (eg. Will yum even still find all the old cached files when the release version changes like that? If not, it might be a good time to do a full housecleaning and nuke the old rpm files.) -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht If the airwaves belong to the public why does the public only get 3 non-overlapping WIFI channels? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Autofs under Fedora-12
Tim ignored_mail...@yahoo.com.au writes: Mogens Kjaer: I would have made (after umount /common and removing the empty folder /common): ln -s /net/alfred/common /common then autofs does the mounting automatically as soon as you access the /common folder. Timothy Murphy: I'm not clear on this. With the autofs setting I have, if it works, the directory is mounted (invisibly) as soon as I try to access it. Yes, that is what should happen. I've been doing something just like Mogens Kjaer outlined, for many years. I don't know when the ghost option for automount mounts appeared, but it is a good thing to enable. With it enabled automount shows you the names of of all the mountable directories. I'm surprised it isn't the default. It is darn useful. To enable just add it to the end of the repective mount lines in auto.master. auto.master: /home /etc/auto.home --ghost -fstype=nfs4,hard,intr,nodev,nosuid,noatime,nodiratime -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht If the airwaves belong to the public why does the public only get 3 non-overlapping WIFI channels? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F12: GTK horrible selected item contrast
Tom Horsley tom.hors...@att.net writes: I've gotten most things working on F12 now, but I'm seeing this horrible looking contrast on selected items or text in all GTK apps. Sort of a medium blue-gray background with white text foreground. Dot-file issue? I've often seen weirdnesses in the gnome/gtk stuff when upgrading. I've just come to expect it and the learned to grit my teeth and just move all the gnome/gtk dot-files away and start with a clean slate. (I guess I should go make a new user from scratch and see what his GTK apps look like). I think that is the only way. I've been doing that for a while. -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht If the airwaves belong to the public why does the public only get 3 non-overlapping WIFI channels? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora 12 sha1sum
Todd Zullinger t...@pobox.com writes: We got so many questions on this that we added a large red note to the top of https://fedoraproject.org/verify telling folks that the 'Hash: SHA1' line is part of the PGP signature and has nothing to do with the type of checksum used for verifying the .iso. Woudld it be possible to do the signature using SHA256 also? On one of the iso's I recently burned did have a checksum file with a gpg SHA256 signature hash. That was enough to remind me that I should be using the SHA256 for checksumming the iso. -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht If the airwaves belong to the public why does the public only get 3 non-overlapping WIFI channels? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: spoof rsa fingerprint
In the scenario that the OP hypothesized, yes, spoofing the fingerprint would help the attacker. A user who attempted to ssh to the router would not be warned that the host had changed and would submit their password to a rogue host. In answer to the original question, though, spoofing the fingerprint would be extraordinarily difficult. I don't see any fingerprints stored in /etc/ssh/ssh_known_hosts or the user's equivalent ~/.ssh/known_hosts, these are the actual public half of the RSA keys. Spoofing these means breaking RSA and generating the corresponding private pair. If someone could do this, I doubt they would waste their talents on logging in to some poor schmuck's Fedora box. There are much jucier and lucrative targets. -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht If the airwaves belong to the public why does the public only get 3 non-overlapping WIFI channels? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Why are we writing our msgs in the subject line?
Linuxguy123 linuxguy...@gmail.com writes: Subject says it all. Tell us about your experience. LG -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
selinux and home dirs
How do I add a second /home tree to selinux so that both /home and /home2 have the same policies and restorecon correctly? There seems to be quite a bit of logic in /etc/selinux/targeted/contexts/files/file_contexts.homedirs to treat the files in the home directory specially, but I can't see where the /home/ string gets set. -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht If the airwaves belong to the public why does the public only get 3 non-overlapping WIFI channels? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: selinux and home dirs
Eamon Walsh ewa...@tycho.nsa.gov writes: On 11/17/2009 05:27 PM, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: How do I add a second /home tree to selinux so that both /home and /home2 have the same policies and restorecon correctly? There seems to be quite a bit of logic in /etc/selinux/targeted/contexts/files/file_contexts.homedirs to treat the files in the home directory specially, but I can't see where the /home/ string gets set. -wolfgang genhomedircon goes through the passwd file looking at the home directories for all the users. So if a user has /home2 listed it should generate the file_contexts.homedirs properly with both prefixes. /home2 itself would need to be labeled with home_root_t just like /home is. Dan's fcontext --equiv would work for this (set /home2 equal to /home) or it could be added manually using semanage fcontext. Thanks Eamon and Dan! I do see that something magically added the /home2 versions since the last time I looked. It is good to know how to do this by hand to speed up the process. -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht If the airwaves belong to the public why does the public only get 3 non-overlapping WIFI channels? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: trying to understand SELinux message
Tim ignored_mail...@yahoo.com.au writes: I can't say that I've had mammoth problems with SELinux. I've had occasional glitches, but then the errant program usually gets *fixed* up quite promptly, so it stops trying to do things that it shouldn't be doing. I've been running selinux on f12(beta+) and things look pretty good. The default yum-installed policy is starting to shape up nicely, with virtually no more noise in my /var/log/messages and /var/log/audit/audit.log files. (I only see one daily gripe for asterisk, but that should be cleaned up in the next policy version.) -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht If the airwaves belong to the public why does the public only get 3 non-overlapping WIFI channels? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: one or more disks failling
Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to writes: Depending on the file system on the device the following may help you find out if any of your bad sectors are in files: http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/badblockhowto.html I don't trust myself to get all that math right (and guessing about the underlying remapping). What I do is just copy the data to a good disk and then write zeros over the bad disk. This will clean up all Current_Pending_Sectors (bad sectors that haven't been reallocated yet) and turn them into Reallocated_Sector_Ct sectors. I'm getting a lot of experience doing this. For some reason my current crop of Seagate 7200.11 and 7200.12 are all developing unreadable sectors. I guess the Seagate perpendicular recording disks weren't quite ready for prime time. Almost -- but not quite. The fastest way I found to zero the disk is to use the security erase feature. A disk that takes 4 hours to be zeroed with dd can be zeroed in 2 hours with the built-in security erase. It took me a while to figure out how to get the security erase hooks to do anything but give me the IO ERROR errno. This seems to be the simplest way to get an erase to take place. (Suggestions and simplifications welcome!) disk=/dev/sdb pass=funkystuff hdparm --user-master u --security-set-pass $pass $disk hdparm --user-master u --security-erase$pass $disk hdparm --user-master u --security-disable $pass $disk -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht If the airwaves belong to the public why does the public only get 3 non-overlapping WIFI channels? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: anyone install android 2.0 sdk on 64-bit fedora?
Robert P. J. Day rpj...@crashcourse.ca writes: given the first release of android 2.0, has anyone out there successfully installed that on a 64-bit fedora? specifically, fedora 11 or (hopefully equivalently) fedora 12 beta. I've done it on f11/x86_64 using the Google SDK and the stock eclipse.org 32-bit binaries. When I tried the Fedora Eclipse I got a string of errors that looked like missing java libraries. I wasn't sure how to resolve those, so I reluctantly used the 32-bit eclipse that the Google installation notes referenced. I did need to yum install a bunch of 32-bit libraries. # for 32-bit android developement tools (eclipse et. al.) yum install glibc.i686 ncurses-libs.i586 libgcc.i586 \ ncurses-libs.i586 libstdc++.i586 libX11.i586 \ zlib.i586 After installing the recomended udev file, Fedora recognized the G1 phone and would let me download code to it. -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F12 networkmanager, anyone else worried by this?
Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com writes: ... and NM simply has no way (which works) to bring up an interface at boot instead of when a user logs in. This seems to have been fixed in F11. My laptops no longer sit around off-net after a reboot until I get around to logging in on the console. The option for bringing up a network at boot time is called share network connection or something to that effect. Why it isn't something more obvious such as bring this nework up at boot time, I have no idea. (I agree w. all the rest, BTW. There are too many out of control developers trying to leave their mark on Linux in the same way that a dog tries to leave its mark on a fire hydrant.) -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht Android 1.5 (Cupcake) and Fedora-11 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Partitioning FC11 ??
Gene Heskett gene.hesk...@verizon.net writes: Because I have lost entire installs when running lvm 3 damned times. Are you sure it was lvm3 instead of say screwed up disk I/O? My gripe with lvm3 is more philosophical -- it provides a silly service, namely allowing me to combine the failure modes of all of my disks and if any one of them fails, my FS is toast. I just put a separate lmv3 on each disk (in passive-aggressive fashion) and ignore that lvm is there. (And yes, I did learn the hard way too when a 600Gig filesystem spanning 3 Seagate 200G disks developed an intermittent controller card on one of the disks.) You (speaking generally) all thought it was hilarious when they decide to remap all the drives with the next iteration of the kernel and everyone using tar for backups needs to run 5-7 sessions the next day to restore order get a fresh level 0 on everything. ;-) I did quite a bit of head scratching figuring that one out too. Yeah, I know, this IS fedora, and we are supposed to bleed for the community good. If I'm going to bleed, I want it to be something stupid _I_ did. I guess my philosophy is the other way around. If I'm going to trip over a bug, I'd really prefer for it to be something some other person has already entered into bugzilla. It pays to be a sheep -- in the center of the herd. ;-) -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht Android 1.5 (Cupcake) and Fedora-11 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Mute button on T61 doesn't work in F11
Matthew Saltzman m...@clemson.edu writes: It's set to XF86AudioMute. Pressing the mute button doesn't change the setting. Are you sure XF86AudioMute is mapped to a key? Press it after starting xev(1) and putting the cursor inside the box. You may need to add XF86AudioMute back to which ever laptop-specific keymap file it used to be in but isn't any more. In my case, In some past fedora I slapped this into /etc/X11/Xmodmap . It is now done by default for me, so I no longer use it. /etc/X11/Xmodmap: ! some useful mappings for extended keyboards. ! only the first three are on the CPQ V5000Z kbd keycode 160 = XF86AudioMute keycode 174 = XF86AudioLowerVolume keycode 176 = XF86AudioRaiseVolume keycode 162 = XF86AudioPlay keycode 164 = XF86AudioStop keycode 144 = XF86AudioPrev keycode 153 = XF86AudioNext keycode 236 = XF86Mail keycode 229 = XF86Search keycode 230 = XF86Go keycode 178 = XF86HomePage keycode 223 = XF86Sleep -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht Android 1.5 (Cupcake) and Fedora-11 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Partitioning FC11 ??
Gene Heskett gene.hesk...@verizon.net writes: I can't answer that, Albert, but I am damned tired of it. I got sda1 for a boot partition on the third try, but there is a 300 meg hole between it and sda2 cuz it simply will not allow more than 199 megs for the boot partition. That problem is about to end with the end of F10. Why not just go with the flow and tell anacondia to use the whole disk and be done with it? It will redo the partition table, install a new low-level boot loader in the mbr and make a new and shiny fs and/or lvm and fs on each fdisk partition. That is going to be the best tested code path and unless you really want to help debug anacondia, why ask for all that aggravation? -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht Android 1.5 (Cupcake) and Fedora-11 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Terminal does not work on a fresh install of Fedora 11
prodpedia no-reply...@fcp.surfsite.org writes in one run-on line: I managed to install Fedora 11 on a Dell optiplex 260. On the first boot - I can't launch the terminal in the graphical environment. On clicking system tools-terminal it brings up a window with title Starting terminal. It then disappears in a few seconds. Everything else works. I can get to a terminal using Ctrl-alt-f2. But cannot start the terminal within graphical environment. Can I reinstall it. What is the program called? I understand that Gnome terminal is different. I am a newbie so thanks for bearing with me. [ you know, you are allowed to hit cr every 70 chars or so. -wsr ] Did you see this in a freshly made user account or did you reinstall your home directory from backup or something? I'd guess some dot-file is screwed up (.bashrc, .bash_profile, .profile, etc). Check .xsession-errors to see if the shell printed anything before it died. -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht Android 1.5 (Cupcake) and Fedora-11 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: any known working USB/serial converters?
Robert P. J. Day rpj...@crashcourse.ca writes: in a nutshell, i'm trying to talk to the serial console of a beagleboard via a USB port on my laptop. Are both ends using the same signaling voltage? Just because something is wired to a DB-9 (or DB-25) doesn't mean it talks +/- 12v (or even +/- 5v.) My Garmin GPS takes extreme liberties with the signaling voltages and only certain serial adapters recognize the 0-5v signal as a usable rs232-like signal. -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht Android 1.5 (Cupcake) and Fedora-11 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: bind-libs all messed up in latest update
Tom Horsley tom.hors...@att.net writes: I'm getting ready to submit bugzilla, but I thought I should warn folks here as well, the bind-libs rpm makes at least two nonexistent symlinks for libraries. I added some additional symlinks to repair the broken links, and that seemed to work, but if you use networking, you probably don't want to get the bind-libs update until there is a newer one :-). What a pain. I leave for 5 days and have the system run on autopilot doing a nightly yum update and this happens. I come back and the system has effectively stopped working because the resolver is broken and no hostnames resolve. From now on I think I'll just let the yum updates happen when I get back and hope nobody finds an exploit that needs an emergency patch. -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht Android 1.5 (Cupcake) and Fedora-11 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: RSA key authentication failure since upgrade to F11
Andrew Hall whippyhubb...@googlemail.com writes: If I change the name of the private key to id_rsa.old and then specify it with the -i flag I can then login to the first host. Have you tried saving your current keys and generating new keys as a test? I personally regenerate keys once a year. It also solves problems with keys that might have been generated badly by current standards. BTW. Ssh with 2k RSA keys generated ~1 year ago seems to work fine for me. -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht Android 1.5 (Cupcake) and Fedora-11 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Skype under Fedora-10
Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at writes: As I already wrote, there are providers offering POTS-SIP bridging as well, that feature is not exclusive to Skype. Yup. I've seen as little as 2 cents per minute flat (with no monthly) over a very large area (across the street or across the pond to Europe). Sites www.teliax.com and www.gafachi.com are two I have accounts with. They both work fine with Fedora's asterisk. I haven't tested with a bareback ekiga, but don't see why that shouldn't work either. -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht Android 1.5 (Cupcake) and Fedora-11 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: gnome-keyring pop up from ssh
Sam Varshavchik mr...@courier-mta.com writes: For some reason, on one of my machines, the first time I run ssh I get a pop-up to unlock my keyring. I don't use a keyring. How do I turn off this pop-up? You probably have a keyring that you didn't request courtesy of the gnome gremlins. Check: ~/.gnome2/keyrings At one point, many fedora releases ago, there was some weirdness where default.keyring and login.keyring interacted badly and that would cause such a popup. These keyrings seem as well documented as the rest of gnome (meaning hardly at all) so it beats me what they do. Deleting the keyrings solved the problem for me back then. Perhaps it will do the trick for you too. -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht Android 1.5 (Cupcake) and Fedora-11 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Broadcom BCM43XX Nightmarte on F11
Christopher A. Williams chriswfed...@cawllc.com writes: On Tue, 2009-06-23 at 22:44 +0800, Ian Chapman wrote: http://www.linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43 This has worked perfectly for me, for both BCM4306 and BCM4311. If you try this, I would make sure broadcom-wl is uninstalled. Thanks! This worked like a champ. On both machines. I wonder, would this shell script to wget the binaries and then b43-fwcutter them be the sort of thing that rpmfusion could package up? Having everybody navigate to a web page, figure out which of several code snippets they need and and cut and paste them into a shell window, sounds like the sort of thing that give linux its user unfriendly label. -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht Android 1.5 (Cupcake) and Fedora-11 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [SEMI-OT] Impressive F11 boot speed
Tom Horsley tom.hors...@att.net writes: How strange. I've never seen a computer motherboard that had a clock that didn't either lose or gain about 30 seconds a day :-). Hopefully you were joking. Over 100ppm (parts per million) is pretty bad. The only board I ever had that was worse than that is the current one based on the AMD chipset. It turns out it has a spread spectrum modulation for the south-bridge chip and that causes quite a bit of frequency offset. Turning that off fixes things (but I assume annoys the FCC.) I always wonder why a dirt cheap timex keeps such better time. Your wrist is a wonderful temperature controlled device to strap a crystal to. Wristwatches have it easy. -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht Android 1.5 (Cupcake) and Fedora-11 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Retrieving data from external disk with lvm partitions?
Jurgen Kramer gtmkra...@xs4all.nl writes: VolGroup00 is the partition I want to mount. What magic commands do I need to be able to mount the lvm partition on the external drive? Probably you need to do this: # lvm lvm vgchange -ay VolGroup00 lvm exit If I were you, I'd also take the opportunity to rename the VG to something a bit more indicative of what is on it. eg. vgrename VolGroup00 vg_f10 (This needs to be done before the vgchange.) -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht Android 1.5 (Cupcake) and Fedora-11 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Fedora 11 Leonidas vs. Fedora release 11 (Leonidas)
On the smolt OS stats page it has two categories for F11, namely Fedora 11 Leonidas and Fedora release 11 (Leonidas). What is the distinction between the two? http://smolt.fedoraproject.org/static/stats/stats.html (click on the OS tab.) -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht Android 1.5 (Cupcake) and Fedora-11 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: checksum suggestion
Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com writes: Security note: any checksum is only as secure as the source of the checksum. Very true. One has to ask why bother having a checksum at all??? Why not just digitally sign the iso directly (with a detached signature). Digital signatures are just hash-digests of the object which have been individually signed. Signing the iso's directly (instead of signing a checksum file) solves two problems: 1) one knows that the checksum hasn't been tampered with and 2) the mechanics of which checksum command to use is hidden from the user. There is also another slight advantage, newbies don't end up comparing the checksums by hand if they don't notice the -c flag to sha256sum. -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht Android 1.5 (Cupcake) and Fedora-11 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: OT Qwest dsl gotchas for linux, F10 x86_64
stan gr...@q.com writes: Keep that up and soon we'll be at half the speed of the leading internet countries. (100 mbit/sec) :-) The reports I've heard have all talked of 10Mbits/sec and 100Mbits/sec *ethernet* over fiber to the home. Not some asymetrical crap like DSL or DOCSIS. This whole incident has me looking into email hosting and private domain names. Both are very cheap right now. Hosting using someone else's domain can be had for $10 US and up per year, hosting with your own domain about $23 and up per year, and domain and web hosting for $42 and up per year. Seems the way to go. Or you could save the money and just do it yourself... That's what bind, postfix, and thttpd are for. ;-) -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht Android 1.5 (Cupcake) and Fedora-11 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: NFS ports?
Bob Goodwin bobgood...@wildblue.net writes: It appears to me that NFS requires ports 111 and 2049, both of which I have opened in the firewall via firestarter. But that doesn't seem to be enough, after struggling to make a connection it also needed some high numbered ports, right now, 43509, but that changes from time to time. I have to keep checking the firestarter events log on both the server and client to see what needs to be opened. I usually block by defaullt and open only the ports needed. Perhaps that wont work with NFS? If anyone can offer some suggestion I would appreciate it. Use nfs4? One of the features is that ports don't move around. In fact you only need one port, 2049/tcp. http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-nfsv4.html Fedora works just fine with only nfs4 enabled and has for the last couple of releases. -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht Android 1.5 (Cupcake) and Fedora-11 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Root Access
Michael Fleming mflem...@thatfleminggent.com writes: - NEVER ssh as root. PermitRootLogin defaults to no in OpenSSH for good reason. If your root password is weak and an attacker guesses it, it's game over, your machine is compromised and you're another zombie in someone's botnet. Log in as a regular user and su I was with you up to this. The bug is that foolish folks allow unix passwords for ssh at all. The attackers have all the time in the world and the newish admins will likely pick passwords that aren't all that random even if they think they are clever by substituting the occasional 0 for O or similar. I have always allowed root access. Of course only RSA 1k and up passwords are allowed. Let's see some attacker guess. If you don't share RSA passwords among admins you can still turn off one password without impacting other admins. Beats changing the root unix password where everybody shares it and changing it impacts everyone. -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht Android 1.5 (Cupcake) and Fedora-11 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F11 - monitor doesn't sleep
Brian Mury brianm...@alumni.uvic.ca writes: On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 12:40 PM, Frank Coxthea...@sasktel.net wrote: I didn't need to do a darn thing with the video -- it just works. However, my monitor never goes to sleep any more. I have the same problem with F11. Worked fine with F10. I might have been using xscreensaver on F10 (I can't remember), I am currently using the default gnome-screensaver on F11. I was thinking of replacing it with xscreensaver to see if it that would work. This is probably more of a gnome-power-manager issue than a screensaver issue though. There are a few gnome-power-manager bugs in bugzilla that may be related. My card is a Radeon 9200. aolMe too/aol F11's power management for the display appears broken. As far as I can tell all of my F11 systems (all with ATI frambuffers) pick a totally random number for when to power the screen down. Most of the time after walking away for an hour or two I see that the screensaver's logic correctly turned all the LCD's pixels black, but the backlight is still on. Ironically what normally happens is that just a few seconds after I unlock the screen and start typing the backlight gets turned off. Wiggling the mouse of hitting some keys will turn the backlight back on. -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht Android 1.5 (Cupcake) and Fedora-11 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: automout
Ed Landaveri landav...@inbox.com writes: Since the last 2 releases I havent' seen the automount service. How can I install/enable it on F11? I liked because I don't need to go to runlevel 5 to mount media or remote drives. Will: yum install autofs.i386 Actually yum install autofs should be sufficient and as a bonus it will choose the correct extension for your installed system. And yes, autofs is no longer in the preinstalled bundle. Not sure why nfs gets installed but autofs doesn't. -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht Android 1.5 (Cupcake) and Fedora-11 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F11 dvd media errors
Joe Smith j...@martnet.com writes: The only change I made to the command was to add the -dao -speed=0 options, which are actually the defaults, as far as I can tell, so I doubt that made any difference. The actual burning mode and speed reported during the burn were the same as before. Well, it may have been that the first time around your dvd had some dust on it that got knocked off in all the excitement. I find that I only have burn problems when I try to be cheap and reuse media. -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht Android 1.5 (Cupcake) and Fedora-11 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Update to F11 or new install?
Smith, Herb herb.sm...@boeing.com writes: Are there any expected downsides to doing an upgrade versus a complete re-install? You don't get to use the shiny new ext4 filesystem. Some people may say that is an upside, but ext4 does seem like a good idea for saving a bit or wear and tear on your hard drive. What do they mean by consistent experience ? Euphamism for someone may have scewed up a file, either you or the people that wrote the upgrade logic. By doing a clean install you get to bury your (or our) sins. I'd rather do an upgrade, but if there will be some defecit in the final result, then I'll consider the full install. What's the consensus from those who have upgraded versus doing an re-install. Is your experience inconsistent ? Toss a coin. It doesn't really matter. I did 5 clean installs of F11 and 2 upgrades (one from F10, one from F9). I didn't see any real problems in either case. -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht Android 1.5 (Cupcake) and Fedora-11 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Update to F11 or new install?
Rahul Sundaram sunda...@fedoraproject.org writes: On 06/11/2009 12:47 AM, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: You don't get to use the shiny new ext4 filesystem. Not quite. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ext4_in_Fedora_11#How_do_I_migrate_from_Ext3_to_Ext4.3F From reading all the documentation it appears to me that the files written by the installation are all written in ext3 format. Is that wrong? What does one really buy by doing this sort of conversion? -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht Android 1.5 (Cupcake) and Fedora-11 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Linux viruses (was Re: Windows vs Linux)
There aren't really any viruses in the wild for GNU/Linux, so it's indeed fairly unlikely to get one. The common viruses all target M$ Window$. Just to be a bit contrary, there is at least one virus type, but it requires the system admin to be foolish. Look at the log files for ssh. All those automated break-in attempts originate from linux, bsd (and other unix-like) systems that have been compromised. eg. Jun 8 10:11:18 arbol sshd[23856]: Invalid user river from 194.165.4.142 Jun 8 10:11:18 arbol sshd[23857]: input_userauth_request: invalid user river Jun 8 10:11:18 arbol sshd[23857]: Received disconnect from 194.165.4.142: 11: Bye Bye The vulnerability is a combination of bad defaults for sshd_config where unix passwords are allowed for ssh logins and foolish admins and/or users that choose passwords that aren't random letters or numbers. Since users can't be counted on to choose good passwords, it is probably best to have the computer choose a 1k random password for you in the form of an rsa key. Is it possible to get the fedora defaults for sshd_config changed and help prevent newbies from making silly mistakes and giving linux a worse grade with respect to viruses? -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht Android 1.5 (Cupcake) and Fedora-11 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Some questions about networking
Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at writes: These sound like homework questions the OP's asking us to answer to avoid doing the research. My money is on the bet that he is writing a Psychology paper to see how different mailing lists respond to a new list member asking a string of simplistic questions. How do I use ssh was a classic. Someone pointed him to the man pages and he came back and reiterated he needed a simpler explanation. Here is what google dug up for him. This is a long trend. http://www.google.com/search?hl=enclient=firefox-arls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficialhs=X5Oq=%3Cgmspro%40yahoo.com%3EbtnG=Searchaq=foq=aqi= -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht Android 1.5 (Cupcake) and Fedora-11 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Problem using file /etc/ethers
Fau dalamen...@gmail.com writes:
Greetings to anyone,
i'm trying to reach a NAS that autoconfigure its IP address with DHCP,
I can't foresee the address because I'm not the dhcp server administrator,
so I put in /etc/ethers:
00:d0:4b:87:4a:ac 192.168.0.111
How was the dhcp admin intending for folks to use this NAS? Typically
one assigns static addresses, either directly or via noticing the MAC
and taking special action in dhcpd. This is how I get my laptop to come
up on the same address when it is plugged in at home. (Needed so I can
ssh to it and rdist updates to it.) Your NAS case should be similar.
host ancho {
# ancho ethernet
hardware ethernet 00:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX;
option host-name ancho;
fixed-address ancho.wsrcc.com;
}
Alternately you can just put the current NAS address in /etc/hosts and
play hunt and seek games finding it whenever its address changes.
-wolfgang
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Re: Flood blocking
Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com writes: I don't see a problem since the type of block being proposed would not result in an SMTP 5XX permanent error. It would simply result in a requeue of the email on the sending side in much the same way as the server being down on the receiving side or a network error between the servers. I think you have to decide if such a thing is a good idea by asking yourself what would happen if a larger percentage of the recipients did this. And if the mailing list were large, the server would be asked to do quite a bit more work. Normally mail gets delivered and is out of the queue in a matter of seconds. Some user with a losing SMTP server such as this is asking the upstream to do extra work. Some might agree, others might not. -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht Android 1.5 (Cupcake) and Fedora-11 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Skype under Fedora-10
Tim ignored_mail...@yahoo.com.au writes: And their system has plenty of other unsavoury aspects to it. The more anyone reverse engineers their closed system, the more disagreeable things are found out about it. Normally one just has to worry about theoretical problems with trojans hidden inside binary programs like skype. In this case, it is quite clear from looking at the traffic that skype was stealing user's bandwidth for carrying totally unrelated 3rd-party voice traffic by looping it into and out of the user's system. http://chris.pirillo.com/are-you-a-skype-supernode/ Just the fact that they are doing this makes me wonder what other stuff they are pulling. (And yes, they *now* have a flag to turn off this trojan mode after all the raised eyebrows.) -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht Android 1.5 (Cupcake) and Fedora-11 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora 11 (Rawhide) and Firefox
Tim and Alison Bentley h...@trarbentley.net writes: Is anyone having problems with FireFox 3.5 Beta 4 having upgraded to Rawhide? Well, firefox has never been on my 10 best working programs list, but Fedora/3.5-0.20.beta4.fc11 works for me. The one annoying bug I see is that it no longer displays the full google lattitude widget in iGoogle. Something changed for the worse and the friends list no longer loads. Since that whole thing is a mess of javascript, it isn't clear who's fault the breakage is. It might just be bad code on Google's part. Any thoughts and ideas? You may just need to blow away your ~/.mozilla directory and start off afresh. You might also want to resist installing any add-ons and see if things are a bit more stable then. It if is still bad I'd run the memory test memtest86+ for a few hours. -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht Android 1.5 (Cupcake) and Fedora-11 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: do I have to worry about these disk errors?
Mike Chambers m...@miketc.net writes: Basically I see a 1 where the Reallocated_Sector_Ct is. Is this thing going bad? Yes, grown errors after manufacture are a very bad thing according to Google's observations over their vast disk array. In fact, they mentioned that it was the only SMART error that predicted the onset of disk failure. http://labs.google.com/papers/disk_failures.pdf Hey, if you want to feel better, I just got a new Seagate 7200.12 that grew its first sector error at ~200 power on hours. We are talking less than 10 days ontime and I think some of that on time was at Seagate getting burned in. Good work guys. -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht Android 1.5 (Cupcake) and Fedora-11 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Skype under Fedora-10
Veli-Pekka Kestilä fed...@guagua.fi writes: Truth is that there is a lot of computers which cannot act as a server and no-one will want to host voip server for free (in large scale) so that two of these behind nat computers could talk with eachother. The scurge that is NAT won't get fixed until users start demanding real IP addresses for their computers from their ISP's. So far programs like skype steal bandwidth from unsuspecting users with real IP's in order to service the slackers behind NAT boxes. That has to stop. Now, SIP and especially RTP are good examples of protocols designed by committee. I'm talking large headers and a zillion different operating sub-modes, many of them incompatible or at least ambiguous as to what they mean in combination with one another. Look at any ChangesLog for a sip phone or open source program and you'll see all the weird cases the software folks had to deal with. That is never good. It keeps the cost of entry high enough that you won't see many folks try to write clients. It would be good for some open-source group to just get back to basics. Sending a stream of audio bits across the net shouldn't take a zillion pages of code or a huge header for each data packet. -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht Android 1.5 (Cupcake) and Fedora-11 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Skype under Fedora-10
Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to writes: How about iax2: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inter-Asterisk_eXchange I just had a look at it here. It looks interesting, but still much more heavyweight than I'd think you need for a point-to-point voice system. I see I'm going to have to think of the issues a bit more. http://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc5456.txt -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht Android 1.5 (Cupcake) and Fedora-11 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Will F11 save sessions?
Beartooth bearto...@comcast.net writes: Does that work if I have several UPSs as well as several computers? Also, two laptops and an EeePC are sometimes in the LAN, sometimes not -- and may be connected to various UPSs ... There is also a program called apcusd (also in yum) that will allow one main computer to signal an orderly shutdown of a bunch of clients before it, itself shuts down. I run it here in standalone mode since only the main computer is on the ups. It works fine. Just remember to test with the computer plugged into the 110v line directly and a 100w bulb or two plugged into the ups. You can make sure the shutdown is orderly and work out the bugs before going live. I like to test by throwing the breakers -- that way it is a true test without all sorts of little stuff like routers modems staying on and acting differently from a real power failure. -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht Android 1.5 (Cupcake) and Fedora-11 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Will F11 save sessions?
Kevin J. Cummings cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net writes: Why should that be any different? My cable modem and router are plugged into the same UPS as my home server. That way, when we first lose power, we don't lose the Internet connection (unless the ISP has also lost power), nor do we lose the wireless connection to the laptops which have batteries. Same here, the intention is to plug vital stuff into the UPS. I've heard way too many stories of companies with backup generators etc that worked just fine during testing, but failed during a real blackout because something somewhere was plugged into line power and only worked when the real power was available. Do you really trust that you know where the tangle of 20+ line cords near the UPS all go? ;-) -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht Android 1.5 (Cupcake) and Fedora-11 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Grub doesn't recognize hdd in F11 x86_64
marcin_wolyniak marcin_wolyn...@aster.pl writes: I have problem booting F11 x86_64 (Preview and snapshot from May 28th - aka rc ) after installation. Used hardware is HP Pavilion dv5-1150ew. After smooth installation (both from LiveCD and DVD release) and reboot it stops at grub console. Issuing command root (hd , geometry (hdx) where x=0,1,2... gives no such device error 21. F11 was installed on fresh hdd with default partition layout. Might it be this problem? Do you have more than one disk in the system? https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-May/msg01392.html You might just need to do a grub-install. -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht Android 1.5 (Cupcake) and Fedora-11 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Two monitors, modelines, xorg.conf, and all that...
Marko Vojinovic vvma...@gmail.com writes: When I plug in the VGA, X chooses the highest common resolution, which happens to be 1024x768. I can only ponder as to why a 22 VGA monitor does not want to do 1280x800, but that's not the question. What I would like to have is the following setup: Under f11 this appears to have changed, at least for a Acer Aspire One netbook I just tested. When I plug a 1200x1600 monitor into it the desktop comes up 1200x1600 instead of the 1024x600 it is when only the native screen is attached. So the answer my be, just wait a few days and upgrade to f11. With preupgrade is should be a painless upgrade. -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht Android 1.5 (Cupcake) and Fedora-11 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Upgrade FC3 to FC10
Moessbauer, David dmoessba...@progeny.net writes: Have an old system that requires upgrade from existing FC3 configuration to FC10 for security concerns. Upgrade vice fresh install is necessary to maintain existing proprietary application loads.  When attempt to utilize FC10 upgrade DVD it can not find a Linux load on HDD, though it is there. Also tried with FC9, same results.  Any guidance would be appreciated. Buy a new disk, unplug the old one and do a clean install of f11 on it when f11 comes out in a week. Then recompile your proprietary software and run. If it fails, you can always put the old fc3 disk back in and wait till someone breaks in and destroys the system. At that point it won't matter that the proprietary stuff doesn't run on f11, because it won't run on the fc3 installation either. ;-) All joking aside, I don't see how you can avoid reinstalling your proprietary stuff under a more recent OS. -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht Android 1.5 (Cupcake) and Fedora-11 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Questions with rsync
GMS S gms...@yahoo.com writes: Will this command do the job for backup? rsync -vpa / /home/user/backup How would I exclude these files below: /lost+found /media /mnt It is always a good idea to throw in an -x to these programs and then list the filesystems you want to backup explicitly. -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht Android 1.5 (Cupcake) and Fedora-11 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: WUSB54G firmware
Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com writes: Kevin Kofler wrote: Bill Davidsen wrote: Jim, mine uses something called rt73.bin and I have no idea how it got in /lib/firmware... But that's what it appears to use. rt73 is a Ralink firmware, it has nothing to do with the OP's Prism WLAN. It comes from the rt73usb-firmware package. Let me state the facts and you can tell me why they don't mean the obvious... when I plug in the WUSH54G device, the disk blinks, the device blinks, and a wireless connection is made. On looking at the files in /lib/firmware I see that the most recently accessed file is rt73.bin. And that if I boot without plugging in the WUSH54G device that firmware is not accessed. I didn't pull that filename out of the sir, I looked to see what firmware was accessed. Are you saying that the access when the device is used is just a coincidence? Does /var/log/messages say anything interesting? On my laptop's embedded radio I see kernel-tagged syslog messages indicating which firmware file is getting loaded. If that were present it would put an end to any doubt. Jun 3 10:32:19 ancho kernel: b43 ssb0:0: firmware: requesting b43/ucode5.fw Jun 3 10:32:19 ancho kernel: b43 ssb0:0: firmware: requesting b43/pcm5.fw Jun 3 10:32:19 ancho kernel: b43 ssb0:0: firmware: requesting b43/b0g0initvals5.fw Jun 3 10:32:19 ancho kernel: b43 ssb0:0: firmware: requesting b43/b0g0bsinitvals5.fw Jun 3 10:32:19 ancho kernel: b43-phy0: Loading firmware version 410.2160 (2007-05-26 15:32:10) -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht Android 1.5 (Cupcake) and Fedora-11 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Upgrade FC3 to FC10
g gel...@bellsouth.net writes: is it not possible to pull old version iso's from archives and burn dvd's to step thru versions to current using 'upgrade' feature? Before the recent preupgrade from f10 to f11/rawhide I've never had an upgraded that worked well enough to use. Things might have seemed to work for a wile, but there were a lot of rough edges. Doing a long string of upgrades would just compound the problem. Sure he can try, but *I* wouldn't bother. Half the advantage of doing an upgrade is that one gets to blow away one's hacked-to-death config files that one did years ago when one didn't understand things as well. -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht Android 1.5 (Cupcake) and Fedora-11 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: ipv6 question
Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com writes: I have a related question. If I set up a tunnel to forward IPv6 thru IPv4, the existing setups seem to use part of my IPv4 address as part of the IPv6 address. Fair enough, but is there some way to get a permanent IPv6 allocation, such that if my primary ISP goes out for any reason, I can use my secondary instead? I'd like to set up some servers on VMs in my DMZ[1] for testing. In order to avoid the mess crated in IPv4 with lots of hard to route direct assignments, IPv6 addresses are not handed out to end users. They are only handed out to ISP's (in hunks of /32 if I recall correctly), who in tun hand out /48's to end users. That keeps the routing table nice and small, but also means that if you are an end user, you will have to play short-TTL dns games if you want a fail-over for a server. -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht Android 1.5 (Cupcake) and Fedora-11 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: ipv6 question
Michael Casey michaelcase...@gmail.com writes: So, could it be reality, that the next-generation Linux Distro's e.g.: iptables will Default not ACCEPT, rather then this: iptables -P INPUT DROP iptables -P OUTPUT ACCEPT iptables -P FORWARD DROP iptables -A INPUT -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT iptables -A OUTPUT -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT + allow ICMP on INPUT because I heard/read that IPv6 relies more on ICMP it could make a good standard firewall (?FIXME) - if anyone puts any server service, than he must know that he must change the INPUT XYZ This is what f11 does: /etc/sysconfig/ip6tables: # Firewall configuration written by system-config-firewall # Manual customization of this file is not recommended. *filter :INPUT ACCEPT [0:0] :FORWARD ACCEPT [0:0] :OUTPUT ACCEPT [0:0] -A INPUT -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT -A INPUT -p ipv6-icmp -j ACCEPT -A INPUT -i lo -j ACCEPT -A INPUT -m state --state NEW -m tcp -p tcp --dport 22 -j ACCEPT -A INPUT -j REJECT --reject-with icmp6-adm-prohibited -A FORWARD -j REJECT --reject-with icmp6-adm-prohibited COMMIT It looks good to me, including the newer wording in system-config-firewall around icmp and ipv6-icmp which discourages clueless admins from blocking icmp's and gumming up the works. -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht Android 1.5 (Cupcake) and Fedora-11 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
self-signed certificates (was Re: I'd like to get rid of pulseaudio but ...)
Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net writes: HTTPS with an unknown self-signed cert is barely any more secure than unencrypted HTTP, since a man-in-the-middle attack could just be replacing the cert and decrypting all communications. It is a shame that there isn't a simple documented way to add other CA's to Firefox's approved list or some system global way to add CA's for all programs looking for pki certs. I for one don't really trust external CA's for access to my computers since I don't know their verification policy. For all I know one of them can be tricked into handing out a *.wsrcc.com certificate. I feel much more secure knowing that anyone signing with my CA first has to get hold of the signing key and then decrypt it. As for the man-in-the-middle attack, I'd imagine the biggest usage case is an eavesdropped-in-the-middle and not someone that was able to break the data stream and insert themselves. Having an encrypted channel with a slightly nebulous endpoint is still better than having an unencrypted channel. -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht Android 1.5 (Cupcake) and Fedora-11 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: OT: Can Reformatting A Hard Drive To ext3 Destroy All the Data On It?
Mikkel L. Ellertson mik...@infinity-ltd.com writes: This should probably be taken to another list... But I can not resist one last comment - low explosives like McVeigh was reported to have used would probably send the drive flying, rather then destroying it directly. A shaped charge from C4 will tend to shatter the drive. You could also use thermite (sp) to melt the drive. McVeigh used ANFO, a common and cheap high explosive used for road work, by farmers to remove boulders etc. The wiki article does claim the propagation velocity of the explosion is faster than the speed of sound. That would make it a high explosive. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ANFO As for decommissioning a drive with secrets on it, I have no idea if it is a good choice. dd-ing /dev/zero over the raw partition works well enough for me, but then I don't need to clear my drives in only a few milliseconds. -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht Android 1.5 (Cupcake) and Fedora-11 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Netbooks
Graeme Hilton fed...@fishter.org.uk writes: Just on a usability note; if you press Alt and then use the left mouse button to click on any part of the dialog and drag the window around it's generally possible to get to the OK or Cancel buttons on most dialogue boxes. The top bar seems to be an impenetrable barrier. Once the top of the dialog box hits it, it stops you from moving the box any higher. I included a screenshot attachment to show what the screen looks like after the box is moved as far up as possible. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=503200 -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht Android 1.5 (Cupcake) and Fedora-11 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: ipv6 question
Michael Casey michaelcase...@gmail.com writes: If I would have an IPv6 address [home pc, behind a router - supporting ipv6 e.g.: openwrt, ISP gives ipv6], then I can see an IPv6 address with ifconfig, on the PC e.g.: Z So that's my very unique address. - Z Can that be seen on the internet, the Z address? so anyone can ping me from outside, or do an nmap? If your firewall allows such mapping and you have a global ipv6 address then yes, you can be pinged, nmap-ed etc. Here is what a globally mapped IPv6 would look like: eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:0F:B0:C5:EB:99 inet addr:192.83.197.13 Bcast:192.83.197.127 Mask:255.255.255.128 inet6 addr: 2001:5a8:4:7d0:20f:b0ff:fec5:eb99/64 Scope:Global inet6 addr: fe80::20f:b0ff:fec5:eb99/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:45262 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:40316 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:43622749 (41.6 MiB) TX bytes:21376741 (20.3 MiB) Interrupt:22 Base address:0x2400 In general, I think you'll want to make sure you run system-config-firewall on all your machines and only allow a minimum of services that you *really* trust on your IPv6 connected clients. My machines tend to only allow incoming ssh and nothing else unless the data stream is opened from the client side. Or are there private addresses what the router gives to my pc.: eg.: with ipv4 a router could give 192.168.1.10... and that IP couldn't be pinged/nmapped from outside (More Secure???) Because I heard that there will be no NAT with IPv6? NAT isn't needed if all you want is firewalling. If you stick to operating systems that supply usable built-in firewalls you'll be ok. -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht Android 1.5 (Cupcake) and Fedora-11 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Netbooks (was: EeePC - Fedora or Ubuntu?)
Ralf Corsepius rc040...@freenet.de writes: The OP asked about EeePC - Fedora or Ubuntu. My answer to this question would be: If you simply want to use your netbook, you're likely better off using the OS the HW vendor supplies. Some netbooks seem to be better than others. I have a Acer Aspire One here that works fine under F11. The wifi works fine as does NetworkManager once one gets around the bug that many of the config screens have the bottoms cut off and one needs to use and larger external LCD to setup the thing. This machine isn't for me. I simply can't use those small keyboards. Gimme 19mm key spacing or some environment where I never have to use the keyboard. -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht Android 1.5 (Cupcake) and Fedora-11 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: I'd like to get rid of pulseaudio but ...
Gene Heskett gene.hesk...@verizon.net writes: Nah, couldn't be related. When you add that there are exactly zero configuration tools to aid us in making this undocumented POC work, ahh forget it, this is fedora and we are supposed to bleed for the cause, right? Motto: What we lack in documentation we make up for in ideology Back in my first unix job a zillion years ago the company I worked for had this rule that nothing got installed in a public */bin directory anywhere unless it also had a man page describing all the command line options installed into the appropriate man directory. That worked out really well in the long run. Newbies and wizards alike appreciated being able to just say man foo and be reminded of how things worked. I miss that. -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht Android 1.5 (Cupcake) and Fedora-11 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: I'd like to get rid of pulseaudio but ...
Craig White craigwh...@azapple.com writes: similar to acronym POS - Point of Sale Point of Stumbling? -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht Android 1.5 (Cupcake) and Fedora-11 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: WSJ - Article on Linux netbooks
Gene Heskett gene.hesk...@verizon.net writes: We will never convince the Lexmarks of the world to give us working driver writing information until we are a more significant piece of the market, one they will have to play with on our terms IF they want to sell us their printers. I'm told by an engineer there that the problem with Lexmark (and I assume every hyper-cheap printer) is that the even very low-level stuff is done by the host computer. There are things the printer can do that will break the printer. We are talking about things like how long to heat the little wire to flash-steam the ink etc. Do it for too long and you damage the wire. On the mickysoft driver, this is all buried in a binary blob and while folks could in theory binary edit it, they won't for the most part. In the OSS world, if they released sources, that almost certainly wouldn't be as true. This puts Lexmark in a very bad position. If they open it up they would need to figure out a way to tell if a modified driver caused damage and not cover that damage under warranty repairs. Now there might be other issues too like BS patents, where everyone and their brother has patents on all the obvious ideas surrounding printing. Exposing the software when you know that the competitor is claiming patents on half a dozen things you are doing isn't going to make the legal dept very happy. -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht Android 1.5 (Cupcake) and Fedora-11 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: I'd like to get rid of pulseaudio but ...
Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at writes: Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: Back in my first unix job a zillion years ago the company I worked for had this rule that nothing got installed in a public */bin directory anywhere unless it also had a man page describing all the command line options installed into the appropriate man directory. That's also Debian's policy. But I don't think we need such a policy in Fedora. It wouldn't even fix this problem as we're not talking about command-line options here, but about GUI features. I think you are reading it much to literally. Good documentation is lacking, people are complaining and we have people saying that I don't think we need such a policy in Fedora. Amazing. -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht Android 1.5 (Cupcake) and Fedora-11 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: I'd like to get rid of pulseaudio but ...
Rahul Sundaram sunda...@fedoraproject.org writes: If you want to help, you don't really need policy. Do you want to help? In the last few years I haven't written much OSS, but you can be sure that when I do, I do dig out my troff notes and cobble together a man page for it. I do practice what I preach. Am I going to write man pages for other folks? Nope. Sorry. First and foremost I'm a strong believer in making the developer explain how to use their program. Doing so forces them to rethink the issues, makes them wonder if something is done logically enough, maybe even gets them to think like a user and wonder what they would find annoying with how the program currently works. -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht Android 1.5 (Cupcake) and Fedora-11 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: I'd like to get rid of pulseaudio but ...
Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at writes: Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: I think you are reading it much to literally. The policy you're proposing (and incidentally, also the Debian policy) is that literal. Requiring good documentation makes sense (though it's hard to define good documentation). Requiring it to be in manpage format and to document the command-line options (and not requiring anything else), even for GUI apps, doesn't. If the problem is that troff is too arcane (and I'll be the first to admit it -- I hate it) then that needs fixing. I don't think it would matter that much what the source for the manpage looked like as long as man someprogram would dig up the documentation and display it in a similar looking format. The problem currently is some of the docs are accessible by man(1), some by info(1) and others by grovelling around /usr/share/doc/ . Instead of the computer doing the work and finding the documentation and displaying it, the user must. Old hacks might know all the places to look, but newbies sure wouldn't. How useful is a manpage like this? http://manpages.unixforum.co.uk/man-pages/linux/suse-linux-10.1/1/kalzium-man-page.html ;-) That is a good example of a contentless man page. I assume it was written by some 3rd party that didn't really understand what the program did, how it was meant to be used etc. -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht Android 1.5 (Cupcake) and Fedora-11 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: WSJ - Article on Linux netbooks
Alan Cox a...@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk writes: You honestly think the bad guys wouldn't just sniff the wire, disassemble the driver and write printer exploding worms given the chance. I didn't get the impression that they were as worried about their printers being targeted by worms as much as they were worried that they would be left holding the bag doing free warranty repairs on printers that were broken by buggy 3rd party drivers. As controllers become cheaper, hopefully the excuse of being able to break the hardware will go away. I don't doubt that the printer control is done from the PC end, but I'd be suprised if Lexmark were dumb enough to just trust the PC commands. You don't DRM your toner cartridges and then act careless on the rest surely. I'd have thought they'd have DRM on the driver interface too ! The toner cartridge has lots more mark-up. You can afford to put more smarts in that than the printer. ;-) In case it wasn't obvious, I'm not the slightest bit happy about companies not releasing programming information either. I just don't think that MS co-marketing dollars is the answer all of the time. Sometimes it is just laziness and a false sense of security through obscurity. -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht Android 1.5 (Cupcake) and Fedora-11 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: I'd like to get rid of pulseaudio but ...
Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at writes: Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: That is a good example of a contentless man page. I assume it was written by some 3rd party that didn't really understand what the program did, how it was meant to be used etc. It was written by the Debian maintainer to fulfill a policy exactly like the one you were proposing. Do you see now why having such a policy at distro level makes no sense? I never said that one should make some 3rd party write a placeholder manpage. One should waterboard the developer till he/she agrees to write the manpage. -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht Android 1.5 (Cupcake) and Fedora-11 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: No sound from Flash (YouTube)
Ian Pilcher arequip...@gmail.com writes: This is 64-bit Fedora 10 with flash-plugin-10.0.22.87-release.i386. At this point you should probably be using the 64-bit flash on 64-bit systems. Here are my notes from when I did it. Caution the pathnames on adobe's site may have changed a bit. # alpha release of flash 64-bit # pulseaudio-libs.i386 pulseaudio-*libs*.i386 yum erase flash-plugin.i386 nspluginwrapper.x86_64 nspluginwrapper.i386 cd /tmp # main page: http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html wget http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/flashplayer10/libflashplayer-10.0.22.87.linux-x86_64.so.tar.gz tar -xvzf libflashplayer-10.0.22.87.linux-x86_64.so.tar.gz cp libflashplayer.so /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht Android 1.5 (Cupcake) and Fedora-11 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Can't boot after an update
DB freddog...@yahoo.co.uk writes: I'm now trying to find a script that will clean /tmp automatically on a regular basis. (I think part of the backlog is due to the switch from Gnome to KDE) I clean my /tmp on each orderly shutdown. That way if the system crashes, my /tmp is preserved but when I do a reboot, it gets cleaned. Put this in /sbin/halt.local. /sbin/halt.local: #!/bin/sh # wsrcc halt script echo WSRCC: Clearing /tmp cd / /bin/rm -rf /tmp/* /tmp/.??* sync; sync; sync; # # end # I used to use an age based clearing method, but that tended to remove things I was still using if the system stayed up too long and it didn't clear things quickly enough such as cases where something significant changed and caused a name clash in /tmp. (Try changing UID's around sometime and forget about the files in /tmp. Things won't be sane until all those files get nuked.) -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht Android 1.5 (Cupcake) and Fedora-11 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F9 - F11 with only 1 partition
Dave Feustel dfeus...@mindspring.com writes: I'm running 32-bit F9 with only 1 partition.. The lack of a separate boot partition prevented me from completing the preupgrade to F10. Can I upgrade to F11 or should I reformat and create 2 partitions before installing F11 from scratch? If I install from scratch I could switch to 64-bit which would be nice. I would prefer to install/upgrade from DVD. Unless you are testing things and really want to find all the incremental upgrade bugs lurking in the corners, why not just let the install DVD do a clean install from scratch? Backup anything you care about and tell the install DVD to use whole disk and let it go hog wild. -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht Android 1.5 (Cupcake) and Fedora-11 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F9 - F11 with only 1 partition
Dave Feustel dfeus...@mindspring.com writes: This sounds like a plan. Where an I buy an installer DVD? I am not set up to burn DVDs/CDs. You can use usb thumb drives too. The fedora install doc should list a few ways of doing that. I recall using it to install F-10 on a dvd-less netbook computer ~6 months ago. I haven't tested this on f11 yet, but here is the updated doc: http://docs.fedoraproject.org/install-guide/f11/en-US/html/ch02s04s02s02.html -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht Android 1.5 (Cupcake) and Fedora-11 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
