Re: [OT] LCD Display and earthquakes .....

2009-12-21 Thread Tim
On Sun, 2009-12-20 at 00:15 -0600, Robert G. (Doc) Savage wrote:
 About your monitor, I suspect what the earthquake might have done is
 flex some bit of hardware just right and cause it to rub through some
 micro-corrosion on an internal signal lead. You know, the same
 mechanism attributed to those reseated connector miracle repairs?
 I've seen some odd hardware behavior changes when a system is taken
 apart, moved, and reassembled. You wouldn't expect it to happen, but
 every once in a while it definitely DOES happen.

I've seen plenty of them.  Plug and socket connections have been the
bane of servicemen since the invention of electronics.  Printed circuit
boards with an edge connector plugged into a socket seem to be the
worst.

Desktop computers marry the edge connection problem with PCI cards that
are attached at one end to a different part of the chassis that might
pull the card out of the socket.  Very few have any sort of clamp to
hold the cards into place from a position that does the job properly
(e.g. top and centre, directly on the opposite side of the PCI slot),
and the case is quite often flexible.  Just picking them up and moving
them around is enough to turn some computers into crash boxes.

And the old Apple ][s were infamous for needing the ICs pushed back into
their sockets periodically.

/me pictures the original poster picking their screen up and shaking it
around to refresh the display, like how you cleared the screen on the
1970s etch-a-sketch toys.

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Re: [OT] LCD Display and earthquakes .....

2009-12-21 Thread Wolfgang S. Rupprecht

Hiisi very-c...@rambler.ru writes:
 2009/12/20 Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com:
 This is OT...but wonder if anyone has experienced or see this before.

 My older Samsung SyncMaster 172t is hooked to a system I use mainly for
 running SlingPlayer.  Part of the upper left quadrant had what could be
 called a smear patter or smudge pattern.  It isn't from any type of burn
 in.  But looked like what you see if you run fingers around on the
 screen...only permanent.  It had been like this for a long time.

 Anyway, I didn't have the monitor turned on last night when Taiwan was
 hit by a 6.8 earthquake.  It registered a 4.3 in Taipei and other than
 drawers opening and the TV rolling away we had no damage.  But, when I
 turned the monitor on this AM the smear pattern was gone.

 So, a shake-table is a good repair tool?  :-)
 It's a Russian way of repairing things - smash it!

A rubber mallet will fix many a dirty contact.  So will a bit of
Cramolin (aka tuner cleaner) with a lot less wear and tear on the
device.

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Re: [OT] LCD Display and earthquakes .....

2009-12-20 Thread Hiisi
2009/12/20 Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com:
 This is OT...but wonder if anyone has experienced or see this before.

 My older Samsung SyncMaster 172t is hooked to a system I use mainly for
 running SlingPlayer.  Part of the upper left quadrant had what could be
 called a smear patter or smudge pattern.  It isn't from any type of burn
 in.  But looked like what you see if you run fingers around on the
 screen...only permanent.  It had been like this for a long time.

 Anyway, I didn't have the monitor turned on last night when Taiwan was
 hit by a 6.8 earthquake.  It registered a 4.3 in Taipei and other than
 drawers opening and the TV rolling away we had no damage.  But, when I
 turned the monitor on this AM the smear pattern was gone.

 So, a shake-table is a good repair tool?  :-)



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[OT] LCD Display and earthquakes .....

2009-12-19 Thread Ed Greshko
This is OT...but wonder if anyone has experienced or see this before.

My older Samsung SyncMaster 172t is hooked to a system I use mainly for
running SlingPlayer.  Part of the upper left quadrant had what could be
called a smear patter or smudge pattern.  It isn't from any type of burn
in.  But looked like what you see if you run fingers around on the
screen...only permanent.  It had been like this for a long time.

Anyway, I didn't have the monitor turned on last night when Taiwan was
hit by a 6.8 earthquake.  It registered a 4.3 in Taipei and other than
drawers opening and the TV rolling away we had no damage.  But, when I
turned the monitor on this AM the smear pattern was gone.

So, a shake-table is a good repair tool?  :-)



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Re: [OT] LCD Display and earthquakes .....

2009-12-19 Thread Michael Thompson

Yeah, it more than shakes it enough to sort out the problems. :)

So before you throw any LCD away, give it a food shake.

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On 20 Dec 2009, at 01:48, Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com wrote:


This is OT...but wonder if anyone has experienced or see this before.

My older Samsung SyncMaster 172t is hooked to a system I use mainly  
for
running SlingPlayer.  Part of the upper left quadrant had what could  
be
called a smear patter or smudge pattern.  It isn't from any type of  
burn

in.  But looked like what you see if you run fingers around on the
screen...only permanent.  It had been like this for a long time.

Anyway, I didn't have the monitor turned on last night when Taiwan was
hit by a 6.8 earthquake.  It registered a 4.3 in Taipei and other than
drawers opening and the TV rolling away we had no damage.  But, when I
turned the monitor on this AM the smear pattern was gone.

So, a shake-table is a good repair tool?  :-)

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Re: [OT] LCD Display and earthquakes .....

2009-12-19 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 19 December 2009, Michael Thompson wrote:
Yeah, it more than shakes it enough to sort out the problems. :)

So before you throw any LCD away, give it a food shake.

What flavor?
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On 20 Dec 2009, at 01:48, Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com wrote:
 This is OT...but wonder if anyone has experienced or see this before.

 My older Samsung SyncMaster 172t is hooked to a system I use mainly
 for
 running SlingPlayer.  Part of the upper left quadrant had what could
 be
 called a smear patter or smudge pattern.  It isn't from any type of
 burn
 in.  But looked like what you see if you run fingers around on the
 screen...only permanent.  It had been like this for a long time.

 Anyway, I didn't have the monitor turned on last night when Taiwan was
 hit by a 6.8 earthquake.  It registered a 4.3 in Taipei and other than
 drawers opening and the TV rolling away we had no damage.  But, when I
 turned the monitor on this AM the smear pattern was gone.

 So, a shake-table is a good repair tool?  :-)



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Re: [OT] LCD Display and earthquakes .....

2009-12-19 Thread Robert G. (Doc) Savage

On Sun, 2009-12-20 at 09:48 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
 This is OT...but wonder if anyone has experienced or see this before.
 
 My older Samsung SyncMaster 172t is hooked to a system I use mainly for
 running SlingPlayer.  Part of the upper left quadrant had what could be
 called a smear patter or smudge pattern.  It isn't from any type of burn
 in.  But looked like what you see if you run fingers around on the
 screen...only permanent.  It had been like this for a long time.
 
 Anyway, I didn't have the monitor turned on last night when Taiwan was
 hit by a 6.8 earthquake.  It registered a 4.3 in Taipei and other than
 drawers opening and the TV rolling away we had no damage.  But, when I
 turned the monitor on this AM the smear pattern was gone.
 
 So, a shake-table is a good repair tool?  :-)

Useful for marguerita lovers who need to multitask...

About your monitor, I suspect what the earthquake might have done is
flex some bit of hardware just right and cause it to rub through some
micro-corrosion on an internal signal lead. You know, the same mechanism
attributed to those reseated connector miracle repairs? I've seen some
odd hardware behavior changes when a system is taken apart, moved, and
reassembled. You wouldn't expect it to happen, but every once in a while
it definitely DOES happen.

Buy a lottery ticket!

--Doc

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