Re: Across Lite for F12 32-bit, an i686 vs i386 issue?

2009-12-01 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2009-11-30 at 15:44 -0800, Joel Gomberg wrote:
> On 11/30/2009 11:14 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> 
> > Thanks. I'd looked at Xword some time ago and wasn't very impressed at
> > the time. The latest version is over 3 years old, which is not
> > encouraging. I guess I don't have any option if I can't get acrossl to
> > work (I tried it on Wine once but it was flaky, and I can't run a VM on
> > my netbook :-()
> 
> I can't see any significant difference between xword and ACL, except that you 
> can't directly enter the solution code to unlock the puzzle.  You can, 
> however, 
> simply download and open the puzzle the next day, say that you want to 
> continue, 
> and then the solution code will be there automagically.

Trying it now. It's more usable than I remember (even though it's
exactly the same. We cruciverbalists are picky :-)

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Re: Across Lite for F12 32-bit, an i686 vs i386 issue?

2009-12-01 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2009-12-01 at 10:24 +, Mark Knoop wrote:
> At 10:07 on 01 Dec 2009, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > I don't have access to any interesting newspaper crosswords on paper,
> > as I live outside the distribution area of the English-language
> > press. In any case, some NYT clues are impossible without
> > encyclopedic knowledge of American sports teams and personalities, so
> > Google is a requirement "in extremis".
> 
> FYI, the Guardian crosswords are free online in a Java applet.
> 
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/crossword

Interesting, they used to be paid (except for a sample) as the NYT ones
still are. I find British plain crosswords are too simple (about the
level of a NYT Monday or Tuesday) and the cryptic crosswords are a
completely different kettle of fish, perfect for when you want your ego
smashed by failing to complete more than a quarter of the answers. I've
become used to the NYT style and like to solve it every day, which I can
usually do, even the fiendish Saturdays.

The NYT also has a Java version. I dislike it, as I dislike all other
Java crosswords out there. For one thing, you can't usually save them
and continue later. For another, they all use different keyboard
conventions and are generally clunky.

Anyway, this is getting way off-topic :-)

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Re: Across Lite for F12 32-bit, an i686 vs i386 issue?

2009-12-01 Thread Mark Knoop
At 10:07 on 01 Dec 2009, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> I don't have access to any interesting newspaper crosswords on paper,
> as I live outside the distribution area of the English-language
> press. In any case, some NYT clues are impossible without
> encyclopedic knowledge of American sports teams and personalities, so
> Google is a requirement "in extremis".

FYI, the Guardian crosswords are free online in a Java applet.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/crossword

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Re: Across Lite for F12 32-bit, an i686 vs i386 issue?

2009-12-01 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2009-11-30 at 23:46 +, Sam Sharpe wrote:
> 2009/11/30 Sam Sharpe :
> > 2009/11/30 Patrick O'Callaghan :
[...]
> Actually my problem was that I naively thought that the version
> supplied on the NYT website is what you are using. It appears you are
> using this:
> 
> http://www.litsoft.com/across/alite/download.htm

That's true. It's been 5 or 6 years since I did it but the binary hasn't
changed. It's dated 1997!

> To run that, I had to install:
> 
> lesstif
> libXp
> libXpm
> compat-libstdc++-296

Yup, got all those.

> [...@nc10 acrosslite1.2]$ ./acrossl
> ./acrossl: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.2.8:
> cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

The difference is that mine actually runs. It even displays the
crossword grid (with no text) and immediately segfaults. If run with no
command-line argument it starts normally and presents the File Open
dialogue. Trying to open the puzzle causes the segfault (I tried several
different puzzles just in case).

Just for the hell of it I also tried both versions from the NYT site
(one is statically linked to the Motif lib, the other is dynamic).
Interestingly, they are both different from the one I have, and neither
will even attempt to run:

$ ./acrossl
bash: ./acrossl: /lib/ld-linux.so.1: bad ELF interpreter: No such file
or directory

ldd of course doesn't help here, since it needs to run the binary.
However I suspect it wants the i386 version of glibc rather than the
installed i686 (which coincides with my original post even for the wrong
reason). I'm not sure I can even install the i386 glibc without wreaking
havoc.

> [...@nc10 acrosslite1.2]$ sudo ln -s /usr/lib/libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3
> /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.2.8
> [...@nc10 acrosslite1.2]$ ./acrossl
> ./acrossl: symbol lookup error: ./acrossl: undefined symbol: __eh_pc
> 
> That appears more googlable, but at this point I have to admit I lost
> interest...

Understandable. Thanks all the same.

> ... I prefer crosswords on Paper :o)

I don't have access to any interesting newspaper crosswords on paper, as
I live outside the distribution area of the English-language press. In
any case, some NYT clues are impossible without encyclopedic knowledge
of American sports teams and personalities, so Google is a requirement
"in extremis".

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Re: Across Lite for F12 32-bit, an i686 vs i386 issue?

2009-12-01 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2009-11-30 at 23:16 +, Sam Sharpe wrote:
> 2009/11/30 Patrick O'Callaghan :
[...]

> What I don't understand is where the version you have comes from. The
> README file I got with the version I downloaded clearly states that it
> is linked against libg++.so.27 - but I have no such library or
> anything close - I'd be curious if you do...

I'm afraid I can't give an intelligent answer to that. I'm on the road
and all the evidence, including and README files, is back home on my
desktop so I won't be able to look at it till January.

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Re: Across Lite for F12 32-bit, an i686 vs i386 issue?

2009-11-30 Thread Sam Sharpe
2009/11/30 Sam Sharpe :
> 2009/11/30 Patrick O'Callaghan :
>> On Mon, 2009-11-30 at 20:15 +, Sam Sharpe wrote:
>>> 2009/11/30 Patrick O'Callaghan :
>>> > On Sun, 2009-11-29 at 08:47 -0800, Joel Gomberg wrote:
>>> >> On 11/29/2009 05:41 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
>>> >> > My name is Patrick and I'm a crossword puzzle addict.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > The NYT publishes its puzzles in Across Lite format, and there's a
>>> >> > proprietary app (acrossl) which runs on Linux. Unfortunately it's
>>> >> > getting really old and is binary-only. It worked under F11 but now the
>>> >> > app gets a segfault on my netbook (though oddly it works fine on my
>>> >> > 64-bit desktop, also on F12).
>>>
>>> I downloaded http://www.nytimes.com/downloads/acllinux.smotif.tar.gz

>> This is a completely different error from what I'm reporting. You're
>> getting this because a library is missing. This has been that way for
>> the last several releases of Fedora and I've always managed to resolve
>> it by installing a compatibility library. In fact, to emphasize what I
>> thought was clear already, the acrossl binary has no missing components.
>> Here it is:
>>
>> $ ldd /usr/local/bin/acrossl
  
>> $
>>
>> The trouble is, on 32-bit F12 it segfaults and on 64-bit F12 it works.
>> Note that it's a 32-bit binary.
>
> Mmmm... I think my point,

Actually my problem was that I naively thought that the version
supplied on the NYT website is what you are using. It appears you are
using this:

http://www.litsoft.com/across/alite/download.htm

To run that, I had to install:

lesstif
libXp
libXpm
compat-libstdc++-296

[...@nc10 acrosslite1.2]$ ./acrossl
./acrossl: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.2.8:
cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

[...@nc10 acrosslite1.2]$ sudo ln -s /usr/lib/libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3
/usr/lib/libstdc++.so.2.8
[...@nc10 acrosslite1.2]$ ./acrossl
./acrossl: symbol lookup error: ./acrossl: undefined symbol: __eh_pc

That appears more googlable, but at this point I have to admit I lost
interest...

... I prefer crosswords on Paper :o)

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Re: Across Lite for F12 32-bit, an i686 vs i386 issue?

2009-11-30 Thread Joel Gomberg

On 11/30/2009 11:14 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:


Thanks. I'd looked at Xword some time ago and wasn't very impressed at
the time. The latest version is over 3 years old, which is not
encouraging. I guess I don't have any option if I can't get acrossl to
work (I tried it on Wine once but it was flaky, and I can't run a VM on
my netbook :-()


I can't see any significant difference between xword and ACL, except that you 
can't directly enter the solution code to unlock the puzzle.  You can, however, 
simply download and open the puzzle the next day, say that you want to continue, 
and then the solution code will be there automagically.



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Re: Across Lite for F12 32-bit, an i686 vs i386 issue?

2009-11-30 Thread Sam Sharpe
2009/11/30 Patrick O'Callaghan :
> On Mon, 2009-11-30 at 20:15 +, Sam Sharpe wrote:
>> 2009/11/30 Patrick O'Callaghan :
>> > On Sun, 2009-11-29 at 08:47 -0800, Joel Gomberg wrote:
>> >> On 11/29/2009 05:41 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
>> >> > My name is Patrick and I'm a crossword puzzle addict.
>> >> >
>> >> > The NYT publishes its puzzles in Across Lite format, and there's a
>> >> > proprietary app (acrossl) which runs on Linux. Unfortunately it's
>> >> > getting really old and is binary-only. It worked under F11 but now the
>> >> > app gets a segfault on my netbook (though oddly it works fine on my
>> >> > 64-bit desktop, also on F12).
>>
>> I downloaded http://www.nytimes.com/downloads/acllinux.smotif.tar.gz
>>
>> [...@nc10 acl]$ ./acrossl
>> bash: ./acrossl: /lib/ld-linux.so.1: bad ELF interpreter: No such file
>> or directory
>> [...@nc10 acl]$ sudo ln -s /lib/ld-linux.so.2 /lib/ld-linux.so.1
>> [...@nc10 acl]$ ./acrossl
>> ./acrossl: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.5: cannot
>> open shared object file: No such file or directory
>> [...@nc10 acl]$ sudo ln -s /lib/libc.so.6 /lib/libc.so.5
>> [...@nc10 acl]$ ./acrossl
>> ./acrossl: error while loading shared libraries: libXpm.so.4: cannot
>> open shared object file: No such file or directory
>> [...@nc10 acl]$ sudo yum install libXpm
>> [...@nc10 acl]$ ./acrossl
>> ./acrossl: error while loading shared libraries: libg++.so.27: cannot
>> open shared object file: No such file or directory
>>
>> ... that's unresolvable - I have no idea where to get libg++.so.27 or
>> anything close to it.
>>
>> So I switched to: http://www.nytimes.com/downloads/acllinux.dmotif.tar.gz
>>
>> [...@nc10 acl]$ ./acrossl
>> ./acrossl: error while loading shared libraries: libXm.so.2.0: cannot
>> open shared object file: No such file or directory
>> [...@nc10 acl]$ sudo yum install lesstif-devel
>> [...@nc10 acl]$ sudo ln -s /usr/lib/libXm.so.2 /usr/lib/libXm.so.2.0
>> [...@nc10 acl]$ ./acrossl
>> ./acrossl: error while loading shared libraries: libg++.so.27: cannot
>> open shared object file: No such file or directory
>>
>> So whatever I try, I get to that unresolvable libg++ dependency - so I
>> think you are bang out of luck :o(
>
> This is a completely different error from what I'm reporting. You're
> getting this because a library is missing. This has been that way for
> the last several releases of Fedora and I've always managed to resolve
> it by installing a compatibility library. In fact, to emphasize what I
> thought was clear already, the acrossl binary has no missing components.
> Here it is:
>
> $ ldd /usr/local/bin/acrossl
>        linux-gate.so.1 =>  (0x00c87000)
>        libXm.so.2 => /usr/lib/libXm.so.2 (0x00d1f000)
>        libXt.so.6 => /usr/lib/libXt.so.6 (0x07d13000)
>        libXext.so.6 => /usr/lib/libXext.so.6 (0x0080d000)
>        libX11.so.6 => /usr/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x005d7000)
>        libXp.so.6 => /usr/lib/libXp.so.6 (0x0011)
>        libXpm.so.4 => /usr/lib/libXpm.so.4 (0x00118000)
>        libstdc++.so.2.8 => /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.2.8 (0x0084)
>        libm.so.6 => /lib/libm.so.6 (0x00389000)
>        libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x003b3000)
>        libSM.so.6 => /usr/lib/libSM.so.6 (0x00b3a000)
>        libICE.so.6 => /usr/lib/libICE.so.6 (0x00994000)
>        libfreetype.so.6 => /usr/lib/libfreetype.so.6 (0x00254000)
>        libxcb.so.1 => /usr/lib/libxcb.so.1 (0x005b7000)
>        libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x00366000)
>        libXau.so.6 => /usr/lib/libXau.so.6 (0x005b2000)
>        /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x001cd000)
>        libuuid.so.1 => /lib/libuuid.so.1 (0x0094b000)
> $
>
> The trouble is, on 32-bit F12 it segfaults and on 64-bit F12 it works.
> Note that it's a 32-bit binary.

Mmmm... I think my point, seeing as I was starting from a clean 32bit
Fedora installation is that there are multiple points where the
compatibility libraries no longer exist. My example would be libc.so.5
which I cheated by symlinking to libc.so.6 - that's not a particularly
valid thing to do.

What I don't understand is where the version you have comes from. The
README file I got with the version I downloaded clearly states that it
is linked against libg++.so.27 - but I have no such library or
anything close - I'd be curious if you do...

[...@nc10 acl]$ cat README | grep -B11 -A3 libg++
The program is dynamically linked to the following libraries which
must exist in a path searched by the loader in order to run the program:

libXt.so.6  (X11R6 tested with 6.0 libraries)
libXext.so.6
libX11.so.6
libc.so.5   (tested with 5.2.18)
libSM.so.6
libICE.so.6

libXpm.so.4 (tested with 4.7)
libg++.so.27(tested with 27.1.0 which is actually 2.7.1.0)
libstdc++.so.27 "
libm.so.5   (tested with 5.0.5)

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Re: Across Lite for F12 32-bit, an i686 vs i386 issue?

2009-11-30 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2009-11-30 at 20:15 +, Sam Sharpe wrote:
> 2009/11/30 Patrick O'Callaghan :
> > On Sun, 2009-11-29 at 08:47 -0800, Joel Gomberg wrote:
> >> On 11/29/2009 05:41 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> >> > My name is Patrick and I'm a crossword puzzle addict.
> >> >
> >> > The NYT publishes its puzzles in Across Lite format, and there's a
> >> > proprietary app (acrossl) which runs on Linux. Unfortunately it's
> >> > getting really old and is binary-only. It worked under F11 but now the
> >> > app gets a segfault on my netbook (though oddly it works fine on my
> >> > 64-bit desktop, also on F12).
> 
> I downloaded http://www.nytimes.com/downloads/acllinux.smotif.tar.gz
> 
> [...@nc10 acl]$ ./acrossl
> bash: ./acrossl: /lib/ld-linux.so.1: bad ELF interpreter: No such file
> or directory
> [...@nc10 acl]$ sudo ln -s /lib/ld-linux.so.2 /lib/ld-linux.so.1
> [...@nc10 acl]$ ./acrossl
> ./acrossl: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.5: cannot
> open shared object file: No such file or directory
> [...@nc10 acl]$ sudo ln -s /lib/libc.so.6 /lib/libc.so.5
> [...@nc10 acl]$ ./acrossl
> ./acrossl: error while loading shared libraries: libXpm.so.4: cannot
> open shared object file: No such file or directory
> [...@nc10 acl]$ sudo yum install libXpm
> [...@nc10 acl]$ ./acrossl
> ./acrossl: error while loading shared libraries: libg++.so.27: cannot
> open shared object file: No such file or directory
> 
> ... that's unresolvable - I have no idea where to get libg++.so.27 or
> anything close to it.
> 
> So I switched to: http://www.nytimes.com/downloads/acllinux.dmotif.tar.gz
> 
> [...@nc10 acl]$ ./acrossl
> ./acrossl: error while loading shared libraries: libXm.so.2.0: cannot
> open shared object file: No such file or directory
> [...@nc10 acl]$ sudo yum install lesstif-devel
> [...@nc10 acl]$ sudo ln -s /usr/lib/libXm.so.2 /usr/lib/libXm.so.2.0
> [...@nc10 acl]$ ./acrossl
> ./acrossl: error while loading shared libraries: libg++.so.27: cannot
> open shared object file: No such file or directory
> 
> So whatever I try, I get to that unresolvable libg++ dependency - so I
> think you are bang out of luck :o(

This is a completely different error from what I'm reporting. You're
getting this because a library is missing. This has been that way for
the last several releases of Fedora and I've always managed to resolve
it by installing a compatibility library. In fact, to emphasize what I
thought was clear already, the acrossl binary has no missing components.
Here it is:

$ ldd /usr/local/bin/acrossl
linux-gate.so.1 =>  (0x00c87000)
libXm.so.2 => /usr/lib/libXm.so.2 (0x00d1f000)
libXt.so.6 => /usr/lib/libXt.so.6 (0x07d13000)
libXext.so.6 => /usr/lib/libXext.so.6 (0x0080d000)
libX11.so.6 => /usr/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x005d7000)
libXp.so.6 => /usr/lib/libXp.so.6 (0x0011)
libXpm.so.4 => /usr/lib/libXpm.so.4 (0x00118000)
libstdc++.so.2.8 => /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.2.8 (0x0084)
libm.so.6 => /lib/libm.so.6 (0x00389000)
libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x003b3000)
libSM.so.6 => /usr/lib/libSM.so.6 (0x00b3a000)
libICE.so.6 => /usr/lib/libICE.so.6 (0x00994000)
libfreetype.so.6 => /usr/lib/libfreetype.so.6 (0x00254000)
libxcb.so.1 => /usr/lib/libxcb.so.1 (0x005b7000)
libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x00366000)
libXau.so.6 => /usr/lib/libXau.so.6 (0x005b2000)
/lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x001cd000)
libuuid.so.1 => /lib/libuuid.so.1 (0x0094b000)
$

The trouble is, on 32-bit F12 it segfaults and on 64-bit F12 it works.
Note that it's a 32-bit binary.

If anyone has acrossl working on a 32-bit F12 system, I'd be interested
to hear of it.

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Re: Across Lite for F12 32-bit, an i686 vs i386 issue?

2009-11-30 Thread Sam Sharpe
2009/11/30 Patrick O'Callaghan :
> On Sun, 2009-11-29 at 08:47 -0800, Joel Gomberg wrote:
>> On 11/29/2009 05:41 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
>> > My name is Patrick and I'm a crossword puzzle addict.
>> >
>> > The NYT publishes its puzzles in Across Lite format, and there's a
>> > proprietary app (acrossl) which runs on Linux. Unfortunately it's
>> > getting really old and is binary-only. It worked under F11 but now the
>> > app gets a segfault on my netbook (though oddly it works fine on my
>> > 64-bit desktop, also on F12).

I downloaded http://www.nytimes.com/downloads/acllinux.smotif.tar.gz

[...@nc10 acl]$ ./acrossl
bash: ./acrossl: /lib/ld-linux.so.1: bad ELF interpreter: No such file
or directory
[...@nc10 acl]$ sudo ln -s /lib/ld-linux.so.2 /lib/ld-linux.so.1
[...@nc10 acl]$ ./acrossl
./acrossl: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.5: cannot
open shared object file: No such file or directory
[...@nc10 acl]$ sudo ln -s /lib/libc.so.6 /lib/libc.so.5
[...@nc10 acl]$ ./acrossl
./acrossl: error while loading shared libraries: libXpm.so.4: cannot
open shared object file: No such file or directory
[...@nc10 acl]$ sudo yum install libXpm
[...@nc10 acl]$ ./acrossl
./acrossl: error while loading shared libraries: libg++.so.27: cannot
open shared object file: No such file or directory

... that's unresolvable - I have no idea where to get libg++.so.27 or
anything close to it.

So I switched to: http://www.nytimes.com/downloads/acllinux.dmotif.tar.gz

[...@nc10 acl]$ ./acrossl
./acrossl: error while loading shared libraries: libXm.so.2.0: cannot
open shared object file: No such file or directory
[...@nc10 acl]$ sudo yum install lesstif-devel
[...@nc10 acl]$ sudo ln -s /usr/lib/libXm.so.2 /usr/lib/libXm.so.2.0
[...@nc10 acl]$ ./acrossl
./acrossl: error while loading shared libraries: libg++.so.27: cannot
open shared object file: No such file or directory

So whatever I try, I get to that unresolvable libg++ dependency - so I
think you are bang out of luck :o(

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Re: Across Lite for F12 32-bit, an i686 vs i386 issue?

2009-11-30 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2009-11-29 at 08:47 -0800, Joel Gomberg wrote:
> On 11/29/2009 05:41 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > My name is Patrick and I'm a crossword puzzle addict.
> >
> > The NYT publishes its puzzles in Across Lite format, and there's a
> > proprietary app (acrossl) which runs on Linux. Unfortunately it's
> > getting really old and is binary-only. It worked under F11 but now the
> > app gets a segfault on my netbook (though oddly it works fine on my
> > 64-bit desktop, also on F12).
> >
> > Since I'm on the road for 2 months I'm starting to get withdrawal
> > symptoms :-) F12 32-bit code is now compiled for the i686 and both the
> > app and the old compat libraries are i386 (not all of them have been
> > updated for F12). Could this be the problem?
> >
> > I'm also willing to try other Across Lite apps, but I've never come
> > across a free one that was half-way decent.
> 
> Hey, Patrick, I feel your pain.  Fortunately, xword is a good open source 
> solution.  You can find a Fedora srpm at:
> 
> http://www.math.uchicago.edu/~eskin/xword/xword-1.0-4.fc9.src.rpm
> 
> Or you can download the source:
> 
> http://x-word.org/xword-1.0.tar.gz

Thanks. I'd looked at Xword some time ago and wasn't very impressed at
the time. The latest version is over 3 years old, which is not
encouraging. I guess I don't have any option if I can't get acrossl to
work (I tried it on Wine once but it was flaky, and I can't run a VM on
my netbook :-()

poc

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Re: Across Lite for F12 32-bit, an i686 vs i386 issue?

2009-11-30 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2009-11-29 at 09:50 -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 13:41:26 +,
>   Patrick O'Callaghan  wrote:
> > 
> > The NYT publishes its puzzles in Across Lite format, and there's a
> > proprietary app (acrossl) which runs on Linux. Unfortunately it's
> > getting really old and is binary-only. It worked under F11 but now the
> > app gets a segfault on my netbook (though oddly it works fine on my
> > 64-bit desktop, also on F12).
> > 
> > Since I'm on the road for 2 months I'm starting to get withdrawal
> > symptoms :-) F12 32-bit code is now compiled for the i686 and both the
> > app and the old compat libraries are i386 (not all of them have been
> > updated for F12). Could this be the problem?
> 
> The app being compiled for i386 shouldn't be an issue. Having old 
> compatibility
> libraries instead of up to date ones might be. Are the compatibility libraries
> you are using not in F12? I don't remember seeing any get dropped, but I might
> not be using the same ones you are. I am using iHEAT at work, which was built
> a while ago and needs some compatibility libraries to work. It runs pretty
> well on F12.

$ rpm -qa compat-\*
compat-libstdc++-33-3.2.3-68.i686
compat-libstdc++-296-2.96-143.i686
compat-readline5-5.2-17.fc12.i686
compat-db45-4.5.20-5.fc10.i386

However /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.2.8 (which acrossl links to) is not part
of any rpm package I can find. I must originally have installed it from
a tarball and now it's come back to bite me. Any pointers to an F12 rpm
for this would be appreciated.

OTOH it may not be a compat problem after all. The segfault is as
follows:

Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
_XmRenderTableFinaliseTag (w=0x0, r=0x80f9f40, tag=0x80fb220 
"FONTLIST_DEFAULT_TAG_STRING") at RenderTable.c:469
469 r->dpy = XtDisplay(w);
(gdb) bt
#0  _XmRenderTableFinaliseTag (w=0x0, r=0x80f9f40, tag=0x80fb220 
"FONTLIST_DEFAULT_TAG_STRING") at RenderTable.c:469
#1  0x002e8cfa in _XmStringDraw (d=0x808dd50, w=60817686, fontlist=0x80f5778, 
string=0x80f9fe8, gc=0x80d00d0, x=3, y=3,
width=, align=0 '\000', lay_dir=255 '\377', 
clip=0xb0b0) at XmString.c:2453
#2  0x00279320 in _XmListRedraw (w=0x80f8420, redraw_all_visible=) at List.c:2488
#3  0x0027d7f2 in _XmListAddItemUnselected (position=,
item=0x80fa110 "߀\006 \001\005UTF-8\002\027   1. Like some jackets\021", 
w=) at List.c:1815
#4  XmListAddItemUnselected (position=,
item=0x80fa110 "߀\006 \001\005UTF-8\002\027   1. Like some jackets\021", 
w=) at List.c:4903
#5  0x0805c5a4 in _start ()

As far as can tell _XmRenderTableFinaliseTag is part of libXm, which is up to 
date.

poc

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Re: Across Lite for F12 32-bit, an i686 vs i386 issue?

2009-11-29 Thread Joel Gomberg

On 11/29/2009 05:41 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

My name is Patrick and I'm a crossword puzzle addict.

The NYT publishes its puzzles in Across Lite format, and there's a
proprietary app (acrossl) which runs on Linux. Unfortunately it's
getting really old and is binary-only. It worked under F11 but now the
app gets a segfault on my netbook (though oddly it works fine on my
64-bit desktop, also on F12).

Since I'm on the road for 2 months I'm starting to get withdrawal
symptoms :-) F12 32-bit code is now compiled for the i686 and both the
app and the old compat libraries are i386 (not all of them have been
updated for F12). Could this be the problem?

I'm also willing to try other Across Lite apps, but I've never come
across a free one that was half-way decent.


Hey, Patrick, I feel your pain.  Fortunately, xword is a good open source 
solution.  You can find a Fedora srpm at:


http://www.math.uchicago.edu/~eskin/xword/xword-1.0-4.fc9.src.rpm

Or you can download the source:

http://x-word.org/xword-1.0.tar.gz


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Re: Across Lite for F12 32-bit, an i686 vs i386 issue?

2009-11-29 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 13:41:26 +,
  Patrick O'Callaghan  wrote:
> 
> The NYT publishes its puzzles in Across Lite format, and there's a
> proprietary app (acrossl) which runs on Linux. Unfortunately it's
> getting really old and is binary-only. It worked under F11 but now the
> app gets a segfault on my netbook (though oddly it works fine on my
> 64-bit desktop, also on F12).
> 
> Since I'm on the road for 2 months I'm starting to get withdrawal
> symptoms :-) F12 32-bit code is now compiled for the i686 and both the
> app and the old compat libraries are i386 (not all of them have been
> updated for F12). Could this be the problem?

The app being compiled for i386 shouldn't be an issue. Having old compatibility
libraries instead of up to date ones might be. Are the compatibility libraries
you are using not in F12? I don't remember seeing any get dropped, but I might
not be using the same ones you are. I am using iHEAT at work, which was built
a while ago and needs some compatibility libraries to work. It runs pretty
well on F12.

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Across Lite for F12 32-bit, an i686 vs i386 issue?

2009-11-29 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
My name is Patrick and I'm a crossword puzzle addict.

The NYT publishes its puzzles in Across Lite format, and there's a
proprietary app (acrossl) which runs on Linux. Unfortunately it's
getting really old and is binary-only. It worked under F11 but now the
app gets a segfault on my netbook (though oddly it works fine on my
64-bit desktop, also on F12).

Since I'm on the road for 2 months I'm starting to get withdrawal
symptoms :-) F12 32-bit code is now compiled for the i686 and both the
app and the old compat libraries are i386 (not all of them have been
updated for F12). Could this be the problem?

I'm also willing to try other Across Lite apps, but I've never come
across a free one that was half-way decent.

poc

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