Re: Broken video DVDs (no executable bits on *_TS folders)

2009-05-24 Thread Axel Thimm
Hi,

On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 08:45:36PM -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote:
 Axel Thimm wrote:
 some home made DVDs by some software is creating *_TS folders with
 0400 permissions. This means that only root can really change into
 these folders.

 Is there a way to tell Fedora to always paste executional bits onto
 video DVDs?

 I'm trying to convert some people to use Fedora for their home systems
 and when they find out that Fedora will ignore their home made DVDs
 they don't really care that their Wincrap software generated a bad DVD
 (after all it runs on the DVD player).

 So while Fedora is actually doing The Right Thing, it is hindering its
 own acceptance. :(

 I can't imagine any change which would make that work and still be 
 remotely functional behavior. Turning off permissions checking on 
 directories isn't going to happen.

Turns out that this just happened in 2.6.30 :)

There are mode and dmode parameters that devicekit sets to full
permissions.

 The DVDs are broken, tell your friends their software is crap. And that 
 the media will not play in certain Blu-Ray players which check properly. 
 That might make a better connection.

There are just too many broken DVDs out there to be The Right One. And
while digging into it I found out that not only home-made, but many
commercial DVDs are broken as well.

I wish the 2.6.30 mode/dmode patch makes it into F11.

On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 07:11:23PM -0700, Suvayu Ali wrote:
 How are you mounting your DVDs? Is it auto-mounted by HAL?

Yes.

 I sometimes use Windowmaker as my desktop and it doesn't automount
 any external storage device. Then I have to mount it by hand. I use
 the following to do that successfully.

 $ sudo mount -o uid=regular-user -o gid=group-of-user [other
 options]

The problem is that there was no option for altering the
permissions. In the near furture you will be able to do
-o mode=xxx,dmode=yyy as well.

 I think similar other options for -o allow you to mount with the  
 executable bit set. The DVDs might work if you mounted it like this.

True, but you need the kernel to understand dmode and mode. Looks like
it's going to be = 2.6.30 unless it is backported to the Fedora kernels.
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Broken video DVDs (no executable bits on *_TS folders)

2009-05-23 Thread Axel Thimm
Hi,

some home made DVDs by some software is creating *_TS folders with
0400 permissions. This means that only root can really change into
these folders.

Is there a way to tell Fedora to always paste executional bits onto
video DVDs?

I'm trying to convert some people to use Fedora for their home systems
and when they find out that Fedora will ignore their home made DVDs
they don't really care that their Wincrap software generated a bad DVD
(after all it runs on the DVD player).

So while Fedora is actually doing The Right Thing, it is hindering its
own acceptance. :(
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Re: Broken video DVDs (no executable bits on *_TS folders)

2009-05-23 Thread Bill Davidsen

Axel Thimm wrote:

Hi,

some home made DVDs by some software is creating *_TS folders with
0400 permissions. This means that only root can really change into
these folders.

Is there a way to tell Fedora to always paste executional bits onto
video DVDs?

I'm trying to convert some people to use Fedora for their home systems
and when they find out that Fedora will ignore their home made DVDs
they don't really care that their Wincrap software generated a bad DVD
(after all it runs on the DVD player).

So while Fedora is actually doing The Right Thing, it is hindering its
own acceptance. :(

I can't imagine any change which would make that work and still be remotely 
functional behavior. Turning off permissions checking on directories isn't going 
to happen.


You *might* be able to write a user-mode filesystem which ran as root and made 
the media available with other permissions, or the xorisso package might let you 
keep the metadata in memory with changed permissions. Finally, you could make a 
copy of just the directory structure on a ramdisk, update the directory 
permissions, then write a symlink to each file in the ramdiskf/s and access 
stuff that way. I think that would work, but it's *UGLY*!


The DVDs are broken, tell your friends their software is crap. And that the 
media will not play in certain Blu-Ray players which check properly. That might 
make a better connection.


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Re: Broken video DVDs (no executable bits on *_TS folders)

2009-05-23 Thread Suvayu Ali

Axel Thimm wrote:

Hi,

some home made DVDs by some software is creating *_TS folders with
0400 permissions. This means that only root can really change into
these folders.

Is there a way to tell Fedora to always paste executional bits onto
video DVDs?

I'm trying to convert some people to use Fedora for their home systems
and when they find out that Fedora will ignore their home made DVDs
they don't really care that their Wincrap software generated a bad DVD
(after all it runs on the DVD player).

So while Fedora is actually doing The Right Thing, it is hindering its
own acceptance. :(



How are you mounting your DVDs? Is it auto-mounted by HAL? I sometimes 
use Windowmaker as my desktop and it doesn't automount any external 
storage device. Then I have to mount it by hand. I use the following to 
do that successfully.


$ sudo mount -o uid=regular-user -o gid=group-of-user [other options]

I think similar other options for -o allow you to mount with the 
executable bit set. The DVDs might work if you mounted it like this.


Just a wild thought. :-/

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