Re: OT: Linux holds back the kids

2008-12-16 Thread Arthur Pemberton
On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 10:53 AM, Don Raikes don.rai...@oracle.com wrote:
 I agree wholeheartedly. My oldest son is in college (ready to graduate this 
 year), and last christmas break he converted his laptop to ubuntu. When my 
 youngest son had problems with vista on his brand-new laptop, he installed 
 ubuntu as a dual boot and was able to use it for everything except for 
 playing some online games he liked.

 So the kids do like linux once they get to know it.

 -Original Message-
 From: Antonio Olivares [mailto:olivares14...@yahoo.com]
 Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 5:53 PM
 To: fedora-list@redhat.com
 Subject: OT: Linux holds back the kids


 Dear all,

 This is somewhat OT, but in light of this, I have to disagree with that 
 teacher who made the claim.

 http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/12/15/helios_linux_texas_teacher/

 I am a math teacher at a high school in Texas and I have 10 machines running 
 Linux, 8 running Fedora 10, one running Fedora 8, and the other running 
 OpenSuse 11.0(just updated).  My students at first did not seem to like the 
 Linux machines, but now they are at home with them and some of them asked me 
 for copies and I gladly gave them a Fedora 10 install DVD.  I have been 
 running Linux at school since 2002/2003 and my students asked me what version 
 of Windows were my machines?.  I told them it was Linux, one was Mandrake 
 9, another was Red Hat 9.  Machines worked beautifully and did the job I 
 wanted.  I told them about Linux, some students actually graduated and use 
 Linux, only that they prefer Ubuntu and they come and tell me about it.  They 
 tell me it(Ubuntu) picks up the wireless and your Fedora does not.  I tell 
 them as long as it works and it is Linux that I am very happy that they are 
 running it.  Sorry to take up your time.  I hope you enjoy
  reading the article if you get to it.

 Regards,

 Antonio


He has two options for games which I am only aware of, but haven't
used myself as I don't play games on my computer:
1) Wine / Codeweaver
2) Get a copy of Windows XP (might be able to get one free or cheap
from school) and run it in a virt machine.

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RE: OT: Linux holds back the kids

2008-12-16 Thread Don Raikes
I agree wholeheartedly. My oldest son is in college (ready to graduate this 
year), and last christmas break he converted his laptop to ubuntu. When my 
youngest son had problems with vista on his brand-new laptop, he installed 
ubuntu as a dual boot and was able to use it for everything except for playing 
some online games he liked.

So the kids do like linux once they get to know it.

-Original Message-
From: Antonio Olivares [mailto:olivares14...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 5:53 PM
To: fedora-list@redhat.com
Subject: OT: Linux holds back the kids


Dear all,

This is somewhat OT, but in light of this, I have to disagree with that teacher 
who made the claim.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/12/15/helios_linux_texas_teacher/

I am a math teacher at a high school in Texas and I have 10 machines running 
Linux, 8 running Fedora 10, one running Fedora 8, and the other running 
OpenSuse 11.0(just updated).  My students at first did not seem to like the 
Linux machines, but now they are at home with them and some of them asked me 
for copies and I gladly gave them a Fedora 10 install DVD.  I have been running 
Linux at school since 2002/2003 and my students asked me what version of 
Windows were my machines?.  I told them it was Linux, one was Mandrake 9, 
another was Red Hat 9.  Machines worked beautifully and did the job I wanted.  
I told them about Linux, some students actually graduated and use Linux, only 
that they prefer Ubuntu and they come and tell me about it.  They tell me 
it(Ubuntu) picks up the wireless and your Fedora does not.  I tell them as long 
as it works and it is Linux that I am very happy that they are running it.  
Sorry to take up your time.  I hope you enjoy
 reading the article if you get to it.  

Regards,

Antonio 


  

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OT: Linux holds back the kids

2008-12-15 Thread Antonio Olivares
Dear all,

This is somewhat OT, but in light of this, I have to disagree with that teacher 
who made the claim.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/12/15/helios_linux_texas_teacher/

I am a math teacher at a high school in Texas and I have 10 machines running 
Linux, 8 running Fedora 10, one running Fedora 8, and the other running 
OpenSuse 11.0(just updated).  My students at first did not seem to like the 
Linux machines, but now they are at home with them and some of them asked me 
for copies and I gladly gave them a Fedora 10 install DVD.  I have been running 
Linux at school since 2002/2003 and my students asked me what version of 
Windows were my machines?.  I told them it was Linux, one was Mandrake 9, 
another was Red Hat 9.  Machines worked beautifully and did the job I wanted.  
I told them about Linux, some students actually graduated and use Linux, only 
that they prefer Ubuntu and they come and tell me about it.  They tell me 
it(Ubuntu) picks up the wireless and your Fedora does not.  I tell them as long 
as it works and it is Linux that I am very happy that they are running it.  
Sorry to take up your time.  I hope you enjoy
 reading the article if you get to it.  

Regards,

Antonio 


  

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Re: OT: Linux holds back the kids

2008-12-15 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 16:52:53 -0800,
  Antonio Olivares olivares14...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Dear all,
 
 This is somewhat OT, but in light of this, I have to disagree with that 
 teacher who made the claim.

Make sure you read the followups here. There were some misundstandings and
the original article doesn't give a good picture of what happened.

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Re: OT: Linux holds back the kids

2008-12-15 Thread Arthur Pemberton
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 8:41 PM, Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to wrote:
 On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 16:52:53 -0800,
  Antonio Olivares olivares14...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Dear all,

 This is somewhat OT, but in light of this, I have to disagree with that 
 teacher who made the claim.

 Make sure you read the followups here. There were some misundstandings and
 the original article doesn't give a good picture of what happened.


I believe I read the entire thing, and there were no
misunderstandings, just ignorance. Once that ignorance was resolved,
everything was okay


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Re: OT: Linux holds back the kids

2008-12-15 Thread Ed Greshko
Antonio Olivares wrote:
 I hope you enjoy reading the article if you get to it.  

   
Huummm  Sounds like some of the discussions on this list  :-)

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