Re: Since when doesn't Fedora use xorg.conf ?
Antonio Olivares wrote: --- On Fri, 2/20/09, Arthur Pemberton wrote: From: Arthur Pemberton Subject: Re: Since when doesn't Fedora use xorg.conf ? To: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora." Date: Friday, February 20, 2009, 10:40 PM On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 9:50 AM, Linuxguy123 wrote: There are all sorts of posts associated with the "Disabling mouse taps on Fedora 10" thread that state that Fedora 10 doesn't use an xorg.conf file. When did Fedora/X stop using an xorg.conf file ? It certainly isn't mentioned in the F10 release notes. http://docs.fedoraproject.org/release-notes/f10/en_US/What_is_New_for_Installation_and_Live_Images.html#X_Window_system_-_graphics How and where are the X system settings set and held now ? Thanks A few releases ago Xorg starting pretending to be too smart for an xorg.conf. It has been very very annoying for me. -- Fedora 9 : sulphur is good for the skin ( www.pembo13.com ) -- While I can concur *Sometimes it is annoying*, on 9 out of 10 machines that I run Fedora 10 on, I don't have xorg.conf and things are working great. But there is an exception, the one with ATI built in the motherboard, I get very bad resolution 640x480(not even 800x600) that there is a need for it :) 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS690 [Radeon X1200 Series] I just tried to install Fedora on another machine with similar built in only that lspci reports it as ATI Radeon 200 and it is a no go, even with Text INSTALL, so YMMV :) Manually add "vga=0x318" or "vga=ask" to the startup line at the initial boot, and it should let you select 800x600 or higher. I have a Mobile X1250 and I get my choice of framebuffers, vesa or radeondrmfb, each of which is really slow. I have resisted adding vendor drivers, I don't do games so it's not a real issue. -- Bill Davidsen "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Since when doesn't Fedora use xorg.conf ?
you can creat xorg.conf , with system-config-display you need to install it Fisrt : yum install system-config-display Good Luke :) On Sat, 2009-02-21 at 11:40 -0800, Antonio Olivares wrote: > > > --- On Fri, 2/20/09, Arthur Pemberton wrote: > > > From: Arthur Pemberton > > Subject: Re: Since when doesn't Fedora use xorg.conf ? > > To: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora." > > > > Date: Friday, February 20, 2009, 10:40 PM > > On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 9:50 AM, Linuxguy123 > > wrote: > > > There are all sorts of posts associated with the > > "Disabling mouse taps > > > on Fedora 10" thread that state that Fedora 10 > > doesn't use an xorg.conf > > > file. > > > > > > When did Fedora/X stop using an xorg.conf file ? > > > > > > It certainly isn't mentioned in the F10 release > > notes. > > > > > http://docs.fedoraproject.org/release-notes/f10/en_US/What_is_New_for_Installation_and_Live_Images.html#X_Window_system_-_graphics > > > > > > How and where are the X system settings set and held > > now ? > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > A few releases ago Xorg starting pretending to be too smart > > for an > > xorg.conf. It has been very very annoying for me. > > > > > > -- > > Fedora 9 : sulphur is good for the skin > > ( www.pembo13.com ) > > > > -- > > While I can concur *Sometimes it is annoying*, on 9 out of 10 machines that I > run Fedora 10 on, I don't have xorg.conf and things are working great. But > there is an exception, the one with ATI built in the motherboard, I get very > bad resolution 640x480(not even 800x600) that there is a need for it :) > > 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS690 [Radeon X1200 > Series] > > I just tried to install Fedora on another machine with similar built in only > that lspci reports it as ATI Radeon 200 and it is a no go, even with Text > INSTALL, so YMMV :) > > Regards, > > Antonio > > > -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Since when doesn't Fedora use xorg.conf ?
--- On Fri, 2/20/09, Arthur Pemberton wrote: > From: Arthur Pemberton > Subject: Re: Since when doesn't Fedora use xorg.conf ? > To: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora." > > Date: Friday, February 20, 2009, 10:40 PM > On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 9:50 AM, Linuxguy123 > wrote: > > There are all sorts of posts associated with the > "Disabling mouse taps > > on Fedora 10" thread that state that Fedora 10 > doesn't use an xorg.conf > > file. > > > > When did Fedora/X stop using an xorg.conf file ? > > > > It certainly isn't mentioned in the F10 release > notes. > > > http://docs.fedoraproject.org/release-notes/f10/en_US/What_is_New_for_Installation_and_Live_Images.html#X_Window_system_-_graphics > > > > How and where are the X system settings set and held > now ? > > > > Thanks > > > A few releases ago Xorg starting pretending to be too smart > for an > xorg.conf. It has been very very annoying for me. > > > -- > Fedora 9 : sulphur is good for the skin > ( www.pembo13.com ) > > -- While I can concur *Sometimes it is annoying*, on 9 out of 10 machines that I run Fedora 10 on, I don't have xorg.conf and things are working great. But there is an exception, the one with ATI built in the motherboard, I get very bad resolution 640x480(not even 800x600) that there is a need for it :) 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS690 [Radeon X1200 Series] I just tried to install Fedora on another machine with similar built in only that lspci reports it as ATI Radeon 200 and it is a no go, even with Text INSTALL, so YMMV :) Regards, Antonio -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Since when doesn't Fedora use xorg.conf ?
On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 9:50 AM, Linuxguy123 wrote: > There are all sorts of posts associated with the "Disabling mouse taps > on Fedora 10" thread that state that Fedora 10 doesn't use an xorg.conf > file. > > When did Fedora/X stop using an xorg.conf file ? > > It certainly isn't mentioned in the F10 release notes. > http://docs.fedoraproject.org/release-notes/f10/en_US/What_is_New_for_Installation_and_Live_Images.html#X_Window_system_-_graphics > > How and where are the X system settings set and held now ? > > Thanks A few releases ago Xorg starting pretending to be too smart for an xorg.conf. It has been very very annoying for me. -- Fedora 9 : sulphur is good for the skin ( www.pembo13.com ) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Since when doesn't Fedora use xorg.conf ?
Linuxguy123 wrote: There are all sorts of posts associated with the "Disabling mouse taps on Fedora 10" thread that state that Fedora 10 doesn't use an xorg.conf file. When did Fedora/X stop using an xorg.conf file ? Just to clarify, Fedora has never stopped "using* xorg.conf, it has stopped *creating one by default* since FC9. There is a feeling among some users (I'm one) that system-config-display should still be loaded by default at install, so that people who have learned to use that for problem hardware will be able to do so if they have any useful display at all. In my experience w/o xorg.conf about 30% of the ten or so systems I've installed either didn't work well or didn't work usably at all. It certainly isn't mentioned in the F10 release notes. http://docs.fedoraproject.org/release-notes/f10/en_US/What_is_New_for_Installation_and_Live_Images.html#X_Window_system_-_graphics How and where are the X system settings set and held now ? -- Bill Davidsen "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Since when doesn't Fedora use xorg.conf ?
On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 8:39 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Thu, 19 Feb 2009 17:18:04 + (UTC) > Beartooth wrote: > >> How about a KVM switch and more than one PC in the mix? > > That depends far more on the KVM switch than anything else. > > My iogear 4 port DVI switch works pretty much flawlessly, > other KVM switches I've tried are horrible (Belkin in > particular seems incapable of making a functional switch). https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=KVM I believe the explanation here from the pre-fedora era may still apply6 years later. -jef"did we really really need to call the mainline kernel virtualization layer KVM as well..I hate acronym overloading"spaleta -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Since when doesn't Fedora use xorg.conf ?
On Thu, 19 Feb 2009 17:18:04 + (UTC) Beartooth wrote: > How about a KVM switch and more than one PC in the mix? That depends far more on the KVM switch than anything else. My iogear 4 port DVI switch works pretty much flawlessly, other KVM switches I've tried are horrible (Belkin in particular seems incapable of making a functional switch). -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Since when doesn't Fedora use xorg.conf ?
On Thu, 2009-02-19 at 17:18 +, Beartooth wrote: > On Thu, 19 Feb 2009 09:09:44 -0700, Phil Meyer wrote: > [...] > > With the release of Xorg 1.5, the X server is capable of running without > > an xorg.conf file for many video cards, but not all. And as you > > mentioned, many of the settings for devices have defaults that are not > > appropriate for everyone. > > > > Therefore, the xorg.conf file is used more for exceptions than the rule, > > now days, but it is still very much in use. > > > > So yes, for some combinations of video card, monitor, keyboard, and > > mouse, the 1.5 Xorg server can work without an xorg.conf file. For > > other combinations, the config file is still needed. > > How about a KVM switch and more than one PC in the mix? > > For several releases of Fedora (and an older, non-USB KVM > switch), every time I did an upgrade or install, I had to take the > machine getting it out from behind the KVM switch and connect all three > peripherals to it directly. If I wanted to stay online while doing one, I > had to bring in a laptop. > > Then one time recently, I forgot -- and Lo! and Behold!, the > upgrades worked anyway. > > Will they still, or do I have to go back to that tedious hardware > fiddling? how would anyone know that? The best thing to do is when the 'defaults' don't work for your video hardware is to report to bugzilla so that they can possibly add the information to xorg package. Craig -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Since when doesn't Fedora use xorg.conf ?
On Thu, 19 Feb 2009 09:09:44 -0700, Phil Meyer wrote: [...] > With the release of Xorg 1.5, the X server is capable of running without > an xorg.conf file for many video cards, but not all. And as you > mentioned, many of the settings for devices have defaults that are not > appropriate for everyone. > > Therefore, the xorg.conf file is used more for exceptions than the rule, > now days, but it is still very much in use. > > So yes, for some combinations of video card, monitor, keyboard, and > mouse, the 1.5 Xorg server can work without an xorg.conf file. For > other combinations, the config file is still needed. How about a KVM switch and more than one PC in the mix? For several releases of Fedora (and an older, non-USB KVM switch), every time I did an upgrade or install, I had to take the machine getting it out from behind the KVM switch and connect all three peripherals to it directly. If I wanted to stay online while doing one, I had to bring in a laptop. Then one time recently, I forgot -- and Lo! and Behold!, the upgrades worked anyway. Will they still, or do I have to go back to that tedious hardware fiddling? -- Beartooth Staffwright, PhD, Neo-Redneck Linux Convert Remember I know precious little of what I am talking about. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Since when doesn't Fedora use xorg.conf ?
Linuxguy123 wrote: There are all sorts of posts associated with the "Disabling mouse taps on Fedora 10" thread that state that Fedora 10 doesn't use an xorg.conf file. When did Fedora/X stop using an xorg.conf file ? It certainly isn't mentioned in the F10 release notes. http://docs.fedoraproject.org/release-notes/f10/en_US/What_is_New_for_Installation_and_Live_Images.html#X_Window_system_-_graphics How and where are the X system settings set and held now ? Thanks With the release of Xorg 1.5, the X server is capable of running without an xorg.conf file for many video cards, but not all. And as you mentioned, many of the settings for devices have defaults that are not appropriate for everyone. Therefore, the xorg.conf file is used more for exceptions than the rule, now days, but it is still very much in use. So yes, for some combinations of video card, monitor, keyboard, and mouse, the 1.5 Xorg server can work without an xorg.conf file. For other combinations, the config file is still needed. Good Luck! -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Since when doesn't Fedora use xorg.conf ?
On Thu, 2009-02-19 at 08:50 -0700, Linuxguy123 wrote: > When did Fedora/X stop using an xorg.conf file ? Fedora 7 had one, I didn't install 8, I have one on 9, but then I'm using the proprietary NVidia driver and I don't think it had one before I installed it. -- [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.12-78.2.8.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Since when doesn't Fedora use xorg.conf ?
On Thu, 2009-02-19 at 08:50 -0700, Linuxguy123 wrote: > There are all sorts of posts associated with the "Disabling mouse taps > on Fedora 10" thread that state that Fedora 10 doesn't use an xorg.conf > file. > > When did Fedora/X stop using an xorg.conf file ? > > It certainly isn't mentioned in the F10 release notes. > http://docs.fedoraproject.org/release-notes/f10/en_US/What_is_New_for_Installation_and_Live_Images.html#X_Window_system_-_graphics > > How and where are the X system settings set and held now ? In Fedora 10, xorg.conf is no longer automatically generated. However, if *you* generate it, Xorg will use it. Jonathan signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Since when doesn't Fedora use xorg.conf ?
On Thu, 2009-02-19 at 08:50 -0700, Linuxguy123 wrote: > There are all sorts of posts associated with the "Disabling mouse taps > on Fedora 10" thread that state that Fedora 10 doesn't use an xorg.conf > file. > > When did Fedora/X stop using an xorg.conf file ? At leaast 2 versions ago. I see it is not on F9. > It certainly isn't mentioned in the F10 release notes. > http://docs.fedoraproject.org/release-notes/f10/en_US/What_is_New_for_Installation_and_Live_Images.html#X_Window_system_-_graphics > > How and where are the X system settings set and held now ? > > Thanks - === Seattle is so wet that people protect their property with watch-ducks. === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akons...@sbcglobal.net -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Since when doesn't Fedora use xorg.conf ?
On Thursday 19 February 2009 15:50:24 Linuxguy123 wrote: > When did Fedora/X stop using an xorg.conf file ? > > It certainly isn't mentioned in the F10 release notes. > http://docs.fedoraproject.org/release-notes/f10/en_US/What_is_New_for_Insta >llation_and_Live_Images.html#X_Window_system_-_graphics That would be because it was mentioned in the F9 release notes ;o) http://docs.fedoraproject.org/release-notes/f9/en_US/sn-Xorg.html -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
