Re: Adding builders without NFS access
On 09/28/2009 12:39 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: I believe that currently any koji builder needs to have read-only access to /mnt/koji, normally realized by NFS mounting. I am wondering if there is a way to add builders to a koji instance without requiring this. This is entirely possible and has been in place for years I think. As Jesse points out, you need to make sure any builders that lack the nfs mount are not in the createrepo channel. Also, you need to make sure you have the builders configured for http access. That means you need to set topurl instead of topdir in the config as well as setting the pkgurl option. Of course that means your kojidir must be http accessible from somewhere. I should also point out that the shared fs need not be accomplished by nfs (though this is arguably the easiest method). There are multiple ways of sharing a filesystem across machines. -- Fedora-buildsys-list mailing list Fedora-buildsys-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-buildsys-list
Re: Thunderbird 3.0pre?
2009/9/27 drago01 drag...@gmail.com On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 5:21 PM, Michael Cronenworth m...@cchtml.com wrote: On 09/27/2009 10:15 AM, Mail Lists wrote: I do know that the 64 bit fedora beta 4 (there is no 64 bit mozilla.org as, last I read a while ago, they are not comfortable the code is 64 bit clean) had terrible problems from beta 4 (tho beta 3 was fine). I switched to 32 bit mozilla.org 3.0pre (on x64 install of f11) and the problems went away. The beta 4 (from updates-testing) started the indexing thing - and then it took 100% cpu and memory growth went to 3.5 GiB - after a period memory use fell to 200 MiB, cpu declined .. then it repeated this cycle several times .. i left this for 6 hours - eventually tb locked up and left a dirty screen image - stuck - cpu usage went to 0 for TB. I had to hand kill it. Installing the stock mozilla 386 build has no such problems. I suspect there is some 64 very unclean code underlying the problem. Tho it could be beta 4 versus pre as well Gee. Here I am messaging you on TB 3.0b4 on a x86_64 machine with TB 3.0b4 x86_64 from updates-testing. Your message was in a folder with 1367 other email messages. Indexing worked fine. I don't see any spikes in CPU or memory usage. No other bugs in b4 at the moment. It's the best version yet. You might want to delete your .thunderbird directory and try again. b4 is working fine for me to (x86_64) have not noticed any regressions compared to b3. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Package Review Stats for last 6 days ending 26th
Top five FAS account holders who have completed reviewing Package review components on bugzilla for 6 days ending 26th Sept were Jason Tibbitts, Kevin Fenzi, Michel Alexandre Salim, Rex Dieter and Tom spot Callaway Jason Tibbitts - 5 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=520246 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=521569 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=521851 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=523756 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=522732 Kevin Fenzi - 3 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=226302 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=226657 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=524413 Michel Alexandre Salim - 3 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=475852 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=519538 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=516906 Rex Dieter - 3 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=503293 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=508126 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=523789 Tom spot Callaway - 3 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=517643 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=525358 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=525361 Bryan O'Sullivan - 2 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=523104 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=523886 Mamoru Tasaka - 2 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=489424 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=516717 Martin Gieseking - 2 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=519512 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=523537 Tim Niemueller - 2 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=522980 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=522979 Adel Gadllah - 1 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=525814 Andrew Overholt - 1 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=525274 Chitlesh GOORAH - 1 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=522657 Dan Horák - 1 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=522169 Dennis Gilmore - 1 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=481668 Fabio Massimo Di Nitto - 1 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=524105 Gareth John - 1 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=523330 Guido Grazioli - 1 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=524468 Jerry James - 1 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=508549 Jussi Lehtola - 1 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=226024 Matthias Clasen - 1 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=525304 Miroslav Suchý - 1 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=525077 Nigel Jones - 1 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=490438 Peter Lemenkov - 1 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=461849 Praveen K Paladugu - 1 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=466183 Rahul Sundaram - 1 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=525764 Sandro Mathys - 1 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=524558 Steve Traylen - 1 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=516059 Toshio Ernie Kuratomi - 1 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=525808 Total reviews modified: 44 Merge Reviews: 4 Review Requests: 40 This report by generated by bzReviewReport.py. The source is available at: https://fedorahosted.org/triage/browser/scripts/bzReviewReport.py Please submit patches or *bug reports* at: https://fedorahosted.org/triage/ and assign them to me (rakesh) . Note: Next week will be adding more details (in terms of numbers for new reviews submitted). Modified script but still to test. -- Rakesh Pandit https://fedoraproject.org/ freedom, friends, features, first -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Non-responsive maintainer process for kurzawa / Krzysztof Kurzawski
Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Fri, 18 Sep 2009 15:57:10 +0200 Till Maas opensou...@till.name wrote: Aloas, On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 07:01:21PM +0200, Till Maas wrote: I want to start the non-responsive maintainer process for Krzysztof Kurzawski, because youtube-dl was not updated for several releases and there was not response to bug reports regarding this. I will use this bug to track my contacting attempts: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=496593 On 2009-07-21 I already wrote a mail to youtube-dl-owner and suggested to take over youtube-dl, but I did not receive any response. If you know Krzysztof, please ping him. a week has passed, so this is the second attempt to reach Krzysztof. The following packages have been orphaned: gfeed greyhounds incollector netmonitor pic2aa scythia wavextract xhotkeys yoltia youtube-dl Also, I would be happy to take 'greyhounds'. Co-maintainers welcome. kevin Took wavextract. -- in your fear, seek only peace in your fear, seek only love -d. bowie -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
rawhide report: 20090928 changes
Compose started at Mon Sep 28 06:15:09 UTC 2009 Broken deps for i386 -- PolicyKit-olpc-1.2-2.fc11.noarch requires /var/lib/PolicyKit-public anerley-0.0.20-3.fc12.i686 requires libmissioncontrol-client.so.0 anerley-0.0.20-3.fc12.i686 requires libnbtk-1.0.so.0 anerley-devel-0.0.20-3.fc12.i686 requires pkgconfig(nbtk-1.0) anerley-devel-0.0.20-3.fc12.i686 requires pkgconfig(libmissioncontrol) argus-2.0.6.fixes.1-16.fc11.i586 requires libpcap.so.0.9 clutter-cairomm-0.7.4-2.fc11.i586 requires libclutter-cairo-0.8.so.0 clutter-cairomm-0.7.4-2.fc11.i586 requires libcluttermm-0.8.so.2 clutter-cairomm-0.7.4-2.fc11.i586 requires libclutter-glx-0.8.so.0 clutter-cairomm-devel-0.7.4-2.fc11.i586 requires pkgconfig(cluttermm-0.8) clutter-cairomm-devel-0.7.4-2.fc11.i586 requires pkgconfig(clutter-0.8) clutter-gtkmm-0.9.4-1.fc12.i586 requires libclutter-gtk-0.9.so.0 clutter-gtkmm-0.9.4-1.fc12.i586 requires libclutter-glx-0.9.so.0 clutter-gtkmm-devel-0.9.4-1.fc12.i586 requires pkgconfig(clutter-gtk-0.9) labrea-2.5.1-2.fc10.i386 requires libpcap.so.0.9 network-manager-netbook-1.2-5.fc12.i686 requires libnm_glib.so.0 ngrep-1.45-5.fc11.i586 requires libpcap.so.0.9 openvrml-gl-devel-0.18.3-4.fc12.i686 requires libGLU-devel(x86-32) perl-POE-Component-Client-HTTP-0.85-3.fc11.noarch requires perl(POE::Component::Client::Keepalive) = 0:0.0901 rhn-check-0.7.3-1.fc12.noarch requires yum-rhn-plugin = 0:0.5.3-30 yersinia-0.7.1-3.fc11.i586 requires libpcap.so.0.9 znc-extra-0.075-1.20090807git.fc12.i686 requires znc = 0:0.075 Broken deps for x86_64 -- PolicyKit-olpc-1.2-2.fc11.noarch requires /var/lib/PolicyKit-public anerley-0.0.20-3.fc12.i686 requires libmissioncontrol-client.so.0 anerley-0.0.20-3.fc12.i686 requires libnbtk-1.0.so.0 anerley-0.0.20-3.fc12.x86_64 requires libmissioncontrol-client.so.0()(64bit) anerley-0.0.20-3.fc12.x86_64 requires libnbtk-1.0.so.0()(64bit) anerley-devel-0.0.20-3.fc12.i686 requires pkgconfig(nbtk-1.0) anerley-devel-0.0.20-3.fc12.i686 requires pkgconfig(libmissioncontrol) anerley-devel-0.0.20-3.fc12.x86_64 requires pkgconfig(nbtk-1.0) anerley-devel-0.0.20-3.fc12.x86_64 requires pkgconfig(libmissioncontrol) argus-2.0.6.fixes.1-16.fc11.x86_64 requires libpcap.so.0.9()(64bit) clutter-cairomm-0.7.4-2.fc11.i586 requires libclutter-cairo-0.8.so.0 clutter-cairomm-0.7.4-2.fc11.i586 requires libcluttermm-0.8.so.2 clutter-cairomm-0.7.4-2.fc11.i586 requires libclutter-glx-0.8.so.0 clutter-cairomm-0.7.4-2.fc11.x86_64 requires libclutter-glx-0.8.so.0()(64bit) clutter-cairomm-0.7.4-2.fc11.x86_64 requires libclutter-cairo-0.8.so.0()(64bit) clutter-cairomm-0.7.4-2.fc11.x86_64 requires libcluttermm-0.8.so.2()(64bit) clutter-cairomm-devel-0.7.4-2.fc11.i586 requires pkgconfig(cluttermm-0.8) clutter-cairomm-devel-0.7.4-2.fc11.i586 requires pkgconfig(clutter-0.8) clutter-cairomm-devel-0.7.4-2.fc11.x86_64 requires pkgconfig(cluttermm-0.8) clutter-cairomm-devel-0.7.4-2.fc11.x86_64 requires pkgconfig(clutter-0.8) clutter-gtkmm-0.9.4-1.fc12.i586 requires libclutter-gtk-0.9.so.0 clutter-gtkmm-0.9.4-1.fc12.i586 requires libclutter-glx-0.9.so.0 clutter-gtkmm-0.9.4-1.fc12.x86_64 requires libclutter-gtk-0.9.so.0()(64bit) clutter-gtkmm-0.9.4-1.fc12.x86_64 requires libclutter-glx-0.9.so.0()(64bit) clutter-gtkmm-devel-0.9.4-1.fc12.i586 requires pkgconfig(clutter-gtk-0.9) clutter-gtkmm-devel-0.9.4-1.fc12.x86_64 requires pkgconfig(clutter-gtk-0.9) labrea-2.5.1-2.fc10.x86_64 requires libpcap.so.0.9()(64bit) network-manager-netbook-1.2-5.fc12.x86_64 requires libnm_glib.so.0()(64bit) ngrep-1.45-5.fc11.x86_64 requires libpcap.so.0.9()(64bit) openvrml-gl-devel-0.18.3-4.fc12.i686 requires libGLU-devel(x86-32) openvrml-gl-devel-0.18.3-4.fc12.x86_64 requires libGLU-devel(x86-64) perl-POE-Component-Client-HTTP-0.85-3.fc11.noarch requires perl(POE::Component::Client::Keepalive) = 0:0.0901 rhm-0.5.3465-3.fc12.x86_64 requires qpidd = 0:0.5.790661 rhn-check-0.7.3-1.fc12.noarch requires yum-rhn-plugin = 0:0.5.3-30 yersinia-0.7.1-3.fc11.x86_64 requires libpcap.so.0.9()(64bit) znc-extra-0.075-1.20090807git.fc12.x86_64 requires znc = 0:0.075 Broken deps for ppc -- PolicyKit-olpc-1.2-2.fc11.noarch requires /var/lib/PolicyKit-public anerley-0.0.20-3.fc12.ppc requires libmissioncontrol-client.so.0 anerley-0.0.20-3.fc12.ppc requires libnbtk-1.0.so.0 anerley-0.0.20-3.fc12.ppc64 requires
Re: preupgrade from f11 to rawhide broken? python traceback
On Sat, 26 Sep 2009, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: Hello, I have fully updated Fedora 11 x86_64 system, and when I run preupgrade-cli I get this: .. .. Saving Primary metadata Saving file lists metadata Saving other metadata Generating sqlite DBs (process:1779): GLib-WARNING **: GError set over the top of a previous GError or uninitialized memory. This indicates a bug in someone's code. You must ensure an error is NULL before it's set. The overwriting error message was: Parsing primary.xml error: Couldn't find end of Start Tag rpm:entry line 99665 Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/share/preupgrade/preupgrade-cli.py, line 305, in module pu.main(myrelease) File /usr/share/preupgrade/preupgrade-cli.py, line 270, in main self.generate_repo(cachedir, comps) # TODO: callback? File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/preupgrade/__init__.py, line 651, in generate_repo misc.generate_repodata(dir,comps,callback) File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/preupgrade/misc.py, line 131, in generate_repodata generate_repodata(dir, comps, callback) File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/preupgrade/misc.py, line 148, in generate_repodata_f9 mdgen.doRepoMetadata() File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/createrepo/__init__.py, line 829, in doRepoMetadata rp.getPrimary(complete_path, csum) File /usr/lib64/python2.6/site-packages/sqlitecachec.py, line 45, in getPrimary self.repoid)) TypeError: Parsing primary.xml error: attributes construct error Known problem? How to fix it? this is the second time I've seen this one - if you can find the primary.xml in /var/cache/yum/anaconda* directory, I'd appreciate seeing it. thanks -sv -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: status of forked zlibs in rsync and zsync
On Wed, 2009-09-16 at 13:28 -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: On 09/16/2009 08:59 AM, Jochen Schmitt wrote: Am 16.09.2009 17:47, schrieb Toshio Kuratomi: That still leaves open the question of why no one has asked rsync upstream to make their fork publicly available instead of hoarding it as a private, internal copy. I would ask, why the modification will not integrated in the 'official' Fedora zlib package? After this integration the fedora maintainer can forward the pach to the upsream author. And a short followup -- I've gone through the zlib-devel mailing list archives now. I was unable to find any request for the rsync patches to be merged into mainline zlib. The mailing list archives only go back to March 2002, so it could be that the request to merge came before that directly to one of the zlib authors. But if so, there's not a record of what problems, if any, there were with the patch. My follow-up on this: I'm pursuing two tracks. I've mailed zlib maintainers directly - they specifically ask for questions to be sent to a direct email address rather than the zlib-devel list - to ask what their position is on this, so we can get some clarity there. I will pass on what (if anything) I hear back from them. Secondly, where would be the appropriate place to propose accepting zsync with the internal zlib? Is that something I should bring to the packaging committee? -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: status of forked zlibs in rsync and zsync
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 9:53 PM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: On Wed, 2009-09-16 at 13:28 -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: On 09/16/2009 08:59 AM, Jochen Schmitt wrote: Am 16.09.2009 17:47, schrieb Toshio Kuratomi: That still leaves open the question of why no one has asked rsync upstream to make their fork publicly available instead of hoarding it as a private, internal copy. I would ask, why the modification will not integrated in the 'official' Fedora zlib package? After this integration the fedora maintainer can forward the pach to the upsream author. And a short followup -- I've gone through the zlib-devel mailing list archives now. I was unable to find any request for the rsync patches to be merged into mainline zlib. The mailing list archives only go back to March 2002, so it could be that the request to merge came before that directly to one of the zlib authors. But if so, there's not a record of what problems, if any, there were with the patch. My follow-up on this: I'm pursuing two tracks. I've mailed zlib maintainers directly - they specifically ask for questions to be sent to a direct email address rather than the zlib-devel list - to ask what their position is on this, so we can get some clarity there. I will pass on what (if anything) I hear back from them. Secondly, where would be the appropriate place to propose accepting zsync with the internal zlib? Is that something I should bring to the packaging committee? fesco ? -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: status of forked zlibs in rsync and zsync
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 12:53:21PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: Secondly, where would be the appropriate place to propose accepting zsync with the internal zlib? Is that something I should bring to the packaging committee? This proposal has already been declined by FESCo: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/134 Regards Till pgpeZoVTUZ1HP.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: PPC/PPC64 disabled in Koji for dist-f13
2009/9/28 Josh Boyer jwbo...@gmail.com: Hi All, As of today, ppc and ppc64 are no longer primary architectures in koji starting with the dist-f13 tag. This is in accordance with the FESCo approved demotion of PowerPC starting with Fedora 13 development. The dist-f12 and older tags continue to have them as primary. Happy building. josh What do we have to do in order to build on PPC? Does it happen automagically? -- Mat Booth A: Because it destroys the order of the conversation. Q: Why shouldn't you do it? A: Posting your reply above the original message. Q: What is top-posting? -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: PPC/PPC64 disabled in Koji for dist-f13
the ppc will be replaced by something else ? like ARM for example ? -- Itamar Reis Peixoto e-mail/msn: ita...@ispbrasil.com.br sip: ita...@ispbrasil.com.br skype: itamarjp icq: 81053601 +55 11 4063 5033 +55 34 3221 8599 -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: crypto consolidation status?
On 09/27/2009 07:17 AM, Gregory Maxwell wrote: On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 1:44 AM, Ken Dreyer ktdre...@ktdreyer.com wrote: I read the wiki page[1] on Fedora's effort to consolidate all the crypto libraries. Quite an ambitious task! FWN [2] reported on the rather large discussion back in '07, but I didn't see any resolution. Is this still a goal for Fedora? The main wiki page hasn't been edited in almost a year (although the scorecard is still being maintained). The reason I bring all of this up is that Server Name Indication has recently been implemented into httpd's mod_ssl, but SNI is not present in mod_nss[3]. If we abandon mod_ssl for mod_nss, we would lose this functionality. [snip] Is this even a fair and reasonable goal unless the NSS upstream is really interested in becoming a superset of the functionality offered by the other crypto libraries? (I don't know for surethat NSS' goal is not to— but I think thats unlikely. It's hard to even start a comparison because NSS doesn't appear to have developer documentation covering low level cryptographic functions) That is basically the goal. For the most port NSS is already there, though there is stuff in NSS, like server side SNI which hasn't been implemented. Is it reasonable when other package upstreams may not find the licensing of NSS to be acceptable (i.e. an upstream which is 100% BSD for it and all its dependencies), or would prefer not to use NSS for stylistic reasons— Would fedora carry patches for these applications in perpetuity? Why would a 100% BSD package have problem with MPL? It's not even clear to me what exactly some of these goals mean i.e. Get a cert using Firefox, use it in SSH when ssh doesn't (normally) use X.509 certificates. This is actually a problem for some customers;). bob smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: crypto consolidation status?
On 09/26/2009 10:44 PM, Ken Dreyer wrote: I read the wiki page[1] on Fedora's effort to consolidate all the crypto libraries. Quite an ambitious task! FWN [2] reported on the rather large discussion back in '07, but I didn't see any resolution. Is this still a goal for Fedora? The main wiki page hasn't been edited in almost a year (although the scorecard is still being maintained). It's on-going. Right now we are focused on 2 things: 1) Trying to remove the impediments for applications to go to NSS (as much as is practical). 2) Moving most of core applications we need to NSS. Dictating moves of upstream projects is not helpful. Finding those things that prevent upstreams from at least using NSS as an option are. We've been most successful when we provide upstream patches which allow them to build for their choice of crypto toolkits. The reason I bring all of this up is that Server Name Indication has recently been implemented into httpd's mod_ssl, but SNI is not present in mod_nss[3]. If we abandon mod_ssl for mod_nss, we would lose this functionality. Currently there are also a half dozen features in mod_nss that aren't in mod_ssl. SNI is definately something that would be welcomed in NSS, and would probably be implemented by the NSS team itself if it's not contributed first;), particularly if it got added to the list of impediments. bob - Ken [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraCryptoConsolidation [2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue107#Crypto_Consolidation [3] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=360421 smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Fedora 12 Mass Branching coming soon
On Mon, 2009-09-21 at 15:17 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: Per the Fedora 12 Schedule¹, mass branching for Fedora 12 will happen on the 28th of September, which is this coming Monday. There will be a short CVS outage associated with this event. The exact timing of this outage has not been decided yet, but we will send the outage notification when it has been decided. Reminder, the mass branching will be happening tonight. The first phase is already happening which does not require an outage. When it is done (and I get back online this evening) I'll start the outage and branching. An outage notice will go out as I prepare to start. -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature! identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: PPC/PPC64 disabled in Koji for dist-f13
On Mon, 2009-09-28 at 23:00 +0100, Mat Booth wrote: What do we have to do in order to build on PPC? Does it happen automagically? Once the ppc builders are setup and running smoothly, successful build requests on the primary arches will be tried on the secondary arches, which will include ppc. You'll need to do nothing specific on your end for this to happen. -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature! identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: PPC/PPC64 disabled in Koji for dist-f13
On Mon, 2009-09-28 at 19:02 -0300, Itamar Reis Peixoto wrote: the ppc will be replaced by something else ? like ARM for example ? No, there is no other arch that is ready for primary status. -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature! identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: PPC/PPC64 disabled in Koji for dist-f13
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 11:31 PM, Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com wrote: On Mon, 2009-09-28 at 23:00 +0100, Mat Booth wrote: What do we have to do in order to build on PPC? Does it happen automagically? Once the ppc builders are setup and running smoothly, successful build requests on the primary arches will be tried on the secondary arches, which will include ppc. You'll need to do nothing specific on your end for this to happen. Will (does?) the same happen for the other secondary arches like sparc or arm? Peter -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: PPC/PPC64 disabled in Koji for dist-f13
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 11:33:37PM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 11:31 PM, Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com wrote: On Mon, 2009-09-28 at 23:00 +0100, Mat Booth wrote: What do we have to do in order to build on PPC? Does it happen automagically? Once the ppc builders are setup and running smoothly, successful build requests on the primary arches will be tried on the secondary arches, which will include ppc. You'll need to do nothing specific on your end for this to happen. Will (does?) the same happen for the other secondary arches like sparc or arm? The s390x and sparc ports use koji-shadow to my knowledge. This goes through and finds builds in the primary koji instance that are missing in the secondary arch instance and rebuilds them for the secondary arch. If a public ppc koji instance gets setup, it will use the same tools. josh -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
sugar-pippy dependencies
Hello, the sugar-pippy rpm in Fedora depends on pygame, which is used by some of the examples. So far, so good, but pygame in turn depends on numpy, a 7.7MB package which a lot of huge dependencies such as atlas (11MB), libgfortran (1MB), blas (700KB) and python-nose (1MB). The rest of Sugar is now free of numpy, so it would be good if we could get rid of it completely. One quick solution would be splitting the problematic examples to a sugar-pippy-examples-extra package. Another possibility -- probably the cleanest -- would be splitting the optional classes surfarray and sndarray to a subpackage of pygame. -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/ -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
CVS Outage Notification - 2009-09-29 04:25 UTC
There will be a CVS outage starting at 2009-09-29 04:25 UTC, which will last approximately 3 hours. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto or run: date -d '2009-09-29 04:25 UTC' Affected Services: CVS / Source Control Unaffected Services: Everything else. Reason for Outage: The CVS server will not accept connections so that we can mass-branch for Fedora 12. Contact Information: Please join #fedora-admin in irc.freenode.net or respond to this email to track the status of this outage. -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature! identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-devel-announce mailing list fedora-devel-annou...@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-announce-- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: crypto consolidation status?
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 4:12 PM, Robert Relyea rrel...@redhat.com wrote: Currently there are also a half dozen features in mod_nss that aren't in mod_ssl. SNI is definately something that would be welcomed in NSS, and would probably be implemented by the NSS team itself if it's not contributed first;), particularly if it got added to the list of impediments. How does one add to this impediments list? I wasn't sure from the wiki page. It is not just the scorecard that's unclear - it was also confusing to see Apache marked as Done (mod_nss ) .[1] If that's true, what do all of these open httpd/apr bugs ([2],[3],[4],[5]) mean? On a related note, Joe didn't seem too enthusiastic about PHP, either [6]. - Ken [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraCryptoConsolidation [2] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=347181 [3] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=347601 [4] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=346541 [5] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=346551 [6] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=347911 -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
bitmap-fonts by default?
We have been looking at updating bitmap-fonts recently, and noticed that it is still listed mandatory in the comps @base-x group. So I just wondered a couple of naive questions: - does bitmap-fonts have to be installed by default? - what actually needs it? Jens -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Heuristica metadata problem
Le Dim 13 septembre 2009 17:56, Nicolas Mailhot a écrit : Hi, While reviewing the output of the automated tests we run on our packages, I noticed Heuristica Bold Italic trips our metadata sanity test because it declares “BoldItalic” (no space) instead of the modern “Bold Italic” (space). BTW Edrip has the same problem -- Nicolas Mailhot ___ Fedora-fonts-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-list
New font package review request for Sheherazade SIL font
Hi all, I've created a new font package request at https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=526058 Any comments and/or suggestions are highly appreciated. Notice that this is my first font package :) Thanks, Hedayat ___ Fedora-fonts-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-list
bitmap-fonts by default?
We have been looking at updating bitmap-fonts recently, and noticed that it is still listed mandatory in the comps @base-x group. So I just wondered a couple of naive questions: - does bitmap-fonts have to be installed by default? - what actually needs it? Jens ___ Fedora-fonts-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-list
Introduction
Hi, Looking at the wiki it says to introduce myself. Well here goes... I'm married with 3 kids (aged 4, 2, 1 :D)... full time job but I do get time to spare surprisingly I love my family to pieces they mean the world to me. I've been working in IT for 10yrs now all in a Microsoft DOS / Windows based environment, starting with development in FoxBASE and FoxPro and moving through the versions to visual fox. I've not attended university but have never had a problem with reading / googlin' bits to learn new things; I do get quite a kick from picking up new to me technologies and helping to solve problems. Currently I work full time as a Visual Studio developer with Technology Management Ltd. in the UK developing .NET applications for the WinCE / Windows Mobile based mobile device market. Those applications are mainly written in C# but we do have a significant VB.net code base. Following the latest Microsoft based OS crash at home a rebuild has become necessary which I started this weekend - yesterday in fact, so I made the choice to make Linux my main OS; to be fair it should've been from when I dabbled with Fedora 7 and 8 thereafter... still... my foot has gone down, and my wife is scheduled a tour of Fedora at the weekend ;) I have recently bootstrapped myself to other languages C / C++ and php for web work I'm finding this interesting to say the least. I do have some experience with Apache and MySQL (obviously the strong knowledge I have in Internet Information Services and SQL Server have been somewhat transferable). It looks like I need to add python to the list of things to learn and this is something I've been mulling over so may just make that leap. From all of that I'm hoping you can tell that whilst I have very little experience with 'nix environments I am keen to learn just need some guidance on where to go to pick that up. Away from PC's (if there ever is such time) I play guitar - well I play guitar, banjo, and mandolin to be honest. The last two I'm not so hot at but I can hold my own - to coin a phrase - on the guitar. I also love to read; and have - of all things - recently started dabbling in magic and performance thereof but... now I'm rambling :D I look forward to helping in whatever way I can. I'm looking for a good place to start, I'm obviously following the wiki, reading up when I can, and of course getting my own Fedora environment setup (although I do have one running in VirtualBox at work to satiate the 'nix desires whilst I'm at work :D). I'm am currently hoping to help in the sysadmin-devel FIG. So hello nice to meet and greet, and I hope you're well. Lee.___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Re: FAD -- startin' early
On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 11:52:24AM -0700, Darren VanBuren wrote: I'd be able to remotely attend on Saturday and Sunday. There's no way I would be able get money to physically attend. I do have credit with Alaska Airlines though.. But I wouldn't have money to stay some place. Nor would my parents let me go to Virgina. Especially just for an Activity day. Note that we're scheduled to work on Friday and Saturday, but Sunday is a travel back day for everyone. We're glad to have anyone attend remotely on Friday and/or Saturday. -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Re: FAD -- startin' early
On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 2:25 PM, Paul W. Frields sticks...@gmail.com wrote: Jon, that would be fantastic! I've already reached the limit of the small budget I've been allotted for the event; does that affect your ability to be there at all? Gah! Sorry for not seeing this sooner, it doesn't really affect me either way. The one thing that I do need to know is do I get off at the Richmond Amtrak station? (seems to add about 3 hours(?!?!?!) to the trip vs. DC), or someplace else? ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Re: FAD -- startin' early
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 09:12:56AM -0400, Jon Stanley wrote: On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 2:25 PM, Paul W. Frields sticks...@gmail.com wrote: Jon, that would be fantastic! I've already reached the limit of the small budget I've been allotted for the event; does that affect your ability to be there at all? Gah! Sorry for not seeing this sooner, it doesn't really affect me either way. The one thing that I do need to know is do I get off at the Richmond Amtrak station? (seems to add about 3 hours(?!?!?!) to the trip vs. DC), or someplace else? Actually... *Fredericksburg*, VA would be the best possible stop. I can pick you up whenever you arrive that way. Otherwise we have to start coordinating times with the folks arriving at the airport on Thursday night and it gets ugly. The F'burg train station is just a few minutes from where I live, and I believe there's a standard stop there for Amtrak. Let me know off-list if that's not the case and we'll figure it out. -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Re: Looking for people who need guests.
On Mon, 28 Sep 2009, Hiemanshu Sharma wrote: Count me in too. FAS Name hiemanshu. FYI on these, I haven't forgotten I'm fighting a spam issue with the servers emailing people their admin passwords. So some of you that have requested a guest but haven't gotten an email yet, no worries I haven't forgotten :) -Mike 2009/9/28 Steven M. Parrish smparr...@gmail.com: I'm looking to put some load on our new cloud environment. This is a pre-pre-pre type setup. The guests will go up, they'll go down. You know the deal. You'll only have this guest for a month or so but if you think you could use a guest, let me know. Because right now the guests aren't actually doing work. -Mike ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list I'll be glad to give one a spin. FAS Name Tuxbrewr Steven = Steven M. Parrish - gpg fingerprint: 4B6C 8357 059E B7ED 8095 0FD6 1F4B EDA0 A9A6 13C0 http://tuxbrewr.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: SMParrish @ #fedora-kde, #fedora-devel, #fedora-olpc, #sugar ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list -- Regards, Hiemanshu Sharma. ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
[OFF] About my collaborations.
Hi, I'm writing this e-mail for explain why I'm away from the group, avoiding bad speculations about my collaborations to Fedora Project. When I've started to try to help this team, I thought that my knowledge was enough to do those things that you do. But I've discovered that I need more experience and technical knowledge to do that. To not leave the project, I tried to find something that I could do better. So, I joined to Ambassadors' groups and to the Brazil Infrastructure group. And, right now, I'm evangelizing the project for people from communities that I participate, and helping the Brazilian infra team with theirs web services. That doesn't means that I'll give up to try to help here, or leave this group. But now, I'm preparing myself, learning more about this project and this team, for come back and try again. Sorry about something that I did. Thanks, -- Davi Vercillo C. Garcia B.Sc. Student - DCC-IM/UFRJ Fedora Project Contributor http://davivercillo.fedorapeople.org/ If a million people say a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing. - Anatole France ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Re: [OFF] About my collaborations.
On 09/28/2009 10:41 AM, Davi Vercillo C. Garcia wrote: Hi, I'm writing this e-mail for explain why I'm away from the group, avoiding bad speculations about my collaborations to Fedora Project. When I've started to try to help this team, I thought that my knowledge was enough to do those things that you do. But I've discovered that I need more experience and technical knowledge to do that. To not leave the project, I tried to find something that I could do better. So, I joined to Ambassadors' groups and to the Brazil Infrastructure group. And, right now, I'm evangelizing the project for people from communities that I participate, and helping the Brazilian infra team with theirs web services. That doesn't means that I'll give up to try to help here, or leave this group. But now, I'm preparing myself, learning more about this project and this team, for come back and try again. Sorry about something that I did. No problems! Working on Fedora Infrastructure can be a big commitment of learning as well as time. Helping the Brazilian Infrastructure group is as big a help to the project as a whole as working on the Infrastructure that we're hosting in PHX so no need to feel bad about anything :-) -Toshio signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Re: FAD -- startin' early
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I assume you won't be doing stuff at 18:40-ish on Friday. Because, unfortunately that's when I get home (15:40-ish back here on the West Coast). If you could make like a rough outline of what happened on Friday at the end of the day, that'd be great, because I would probably end up being completely confused over everything, having missed Friday's events. Darren VanBuren onekop...@gmail.com http://theoks.net/ On Sep 28, 2009, at 5:57 AM, Paul W. Frields wrote: On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 11:52:24AM -0700, Darren VanBuren wrote: I'd be able to remotely attend on Saturday and Sunday. There's no way I would be able get money to physically attend. I do have credit with Alaska Airlines though.. But I wouldn't have money to stay some place. Nor would my parents let me go to Virgina. Especially just for an Activity day. Note that we're scheduled to work on Friday and Saturday, but Sunday is a travel back day for everyone. We're glad to have anyone attend remotely on Friday and/or Saturday. -- Paul W. Frieldshttp:// paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (Darwin) iEYEARECAAYFAkrBO80ACgkQBkMMSWb0Ypb7vgCeOGDcOh8k8HMfk287bo4MrE8x /4wAnA7aj6wSqCirn9Gg33vhnQuGBMrY =tj7M -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
CVS Outage Notification - 2009-09-29 04:25 UTC
There will be a CVS outage starting at 2009-09-29 04:25 UTC, which will last approximately 3 hours. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto or run: date -d '2009-09-29 04:25 UTC' Affected Services: CVS / Source Control Unaffected Services: Everything else. Reason for Outage: The CVS server will not accept connections so that we can mass-branch for Fedora 12. Contact Information: Please join #fedora-admin in irc.freenode.net or respond to this email to track the status of this outage. -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature! identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Re: I think something is 'stuck' on the fedoara-list ?!?
2009/9/28 William Case billli...@rogers.com: Hi Hiisi On Mon, 2009-09-28 at 00:37 +0400, Hiisi wrote: 2009/9/28 William Case billli...@rogers.com: Does it matter if you have a replay to your post (like now)? Can you see your message now? Can you see your message now? I sent a message over a half an hour ago replying 'Yes' to your query; but that 'yes' response hasn't shown up here yet although it is in the archive. The usual turnaround time is about 1 to 2 minutes. The first two messages that I sent on this thread made it through instantly. OK. We have here two messages from you, the second arrived about a half of an hour after the first one. Does it matter if you have a replay to your post (like now)? To me, yes for five reasons: --SNIP-- Now, lets see if this post comes back. -- Regards Bill Fedora 11, Gnome 2.26.3 Evo.2.26.3, Emacs 23.1.1 Recently I had similar problem with my messages. But in my case I new exactly where problem laid. I used rambler.ru here in Moscow, Russia. And they have the same reputation of 'screwing around with their system on weekends without telling anybody' ;-) My solution was to sign up in gmail, then set up my old address as 'reply-to' in gmail and forward all messages to the new mailbox from the old one. You could then unsubscribe the old address from list-messages and subscribe for it on the new one. Hope that helps. In my opinion gmail is the best mail-provider I've ever used. But I use web-mail, not programs like evolution or kmail... -- Hiisi. Registered Linux User #487982. Be counted at: http://counter.li.org/ -- Spandex is a privilege, not a right. -- SIP: hi...@ekiga.net -- pub 1024D/085B139A -- Powered by Fedora: http://fedoraproject.org/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Munged Headers....
On 28Sep2009 00:28, Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to wrote: | On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 07:13:10 +0800, | Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com wrote: | As mentioned several times, the string enclosed within in the To: | header is a text comment field and not an address. It matters not that | is contains encoded text. The comma is not a field separator. Yet the | reply generated by mutt treated it as such. | | No it didn't. What it did was escape the invalid rfc 2047 escapes. All of | the comment part of the address ended up between the quotes because the | invalid escapes were between the quotes. So while it may have looked odd, it | (the cc header) contained one address (fedora-list@redhat.com). Hmm. That's roughly true, looking at the header Ed forwarded to me: Cc: =?us-ascii?Q?=3D=3FISO-8859-1=3FQ=3F_Community=5Fassistance=2C_=5Fenco?= =?us-ascii?B?dXJhZ2VtZW50LCA9MDlhbmRfYWR2aWNlX2Zvcl8/PSA9P0lTTy04ODU5LTE/?= =?us-ascii?B?UT91c2luZ19GZWRvcmEu?= ?= fedora-list@redhat.com except for the final ?= which seems a bit bogus. However, I think you'll agree is looks pretty horrible. I've just saved your message to a new mbox and opened it. Mutt presents it just fine. Looking at it in the raw, Bruno's message looks fine except for the CC: line, which is like this: Cc: =?us-ascii?Q?=3D=3FISO-8859-1=3FQ=3F_Community=5Fassistance=2C_=5Fenco?= =?us-ascii?B?dXJhZ2VtZW50LCA9MDlhbmRfYWR2aWNlX2Zvcl8/PSA9P0lTTy04ODU5LTE/?= =?us-ascii?B?UT91c2luZ19GZWRvcmEu?= ?= fedora-list@redhat.com The most notable thing about this is that both the quotes and the commas are 2407 encoded. So an un2407aware mailer will see just one address and no quotes or commas. Ed, how sure are you that TBird is handling that line correctly? If it's breaking that up into multiple addresses, why? There's two ways to approach this: parse in 822 style first, then 2407decode, which should produce one address; or 2407decode then 822 parse, which should produce one address. I'm going to hand decode that line and check... Ick. Post decode, that line then contains more RFC207 content, including commas. And no quotes:-( So, it sounds like TBird decodes, then parses. And explodes in Ed's face. Bruno, I notice you're running mutt-1.5.18. I'm running 1.5.20 and it produces much nicer results, which are visibly good to the human eye. In fact it takes Frank's not properly 2407 encoded header and undoes it and writes an unencoded address, nice and clear. Maybe you could upgrade - it would save a lot of bickering:-) Though a dig through the changelog doesn't show me a relevant looking change:-( Hmm. I just tried 1.5.18 on Frank's original message with the odd rfc2407 stuff; it behaves just fine too. I'd really like to know what happened to Bruno's setup. Bruno, could you attach Frank's original message, as it is in _your_ mail folder, to your reply for inspection? I'd like to compare it against my copy and the copy Ed sent me. I have trouble believing they're all the same. Cheers, -- Cameron Simpson c...@zip.com.au DoD#743 http://www.cskk.ezoshosting.com/cs/ Six trillion RFID tags is four orders of magnitude bigger than any electronic item ever made. - overhead by WIRED at the Intelligent Printing conference Oct2006 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: missing dependency with qt4-devel for assistant-qt4
2009/9/28 Rob spamref...@yahoo.com: Hi, I planned to write a program with Qt, using the designer-qt4. Installing qt4-devel pulled in lots of other dependencies. When I started the designer-qt4 and clicked on 'help' in the menu, this opened assistant-qt4 completely empty: no contents and no index at all. It took me a while to figure out that apparently the qt-doc had not been installed. Installing qt-doc.noarch solved the problem. Therefore I assume that this is a missing dependency of qt4-devel, which comes with the assistant-qt4, but not automatically with the necessary documentation to make the assistant work! Rob. I checked that on my F11-desktop. Here's the result. # yum install qt4-devel Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit Setting up Install Process Resolving Dependencies -- Running transaction check --- Package qt-devel.i586 1:4.5.2-3.fc11 set to be updated -- Finished Dependency Resolution Dependencies Resolved ... Complete! No help available: http://img5.imageshack.us/i/kuvakaappaus1k.png/ And after 'yum install qt-doc.noarch': http://img403.imageshack.us/i/kuvakaappaus2.png/ By the way, neither Qt4 Designer nor Qr4 Assistant has icon in start-up menu: http://img14.imageshack.us/i/kuvakaappaus3.png/ I think you should fill a bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/index.cgi And ask the same question on devel-list (fedora-devel-l...@redhat.com). -- Hiisi. Registered Linux User #487982. Be counted at: http://counter.li.org/ -- Spandex is a privilege, not a right. -- SIP: hi...@ekiga.net -- pub 1024D/085B139A -- Powered by Fedora: http://fedoraproject.org/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How do you clear a botched kernel on a PPC system?
On Sep 27, 2009, at 3:20 AM, a helpful person wrote me off-list: (Leaving out the name in case the off-list was intentional. Or maybe it was because it was a reply to my mis-post to the -test-list.) On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 07:19:45PM +0900, Joel Rees wrote: it tells me that I should try passing in the init= parameter. I tried several permutations of what I thought was the probable syntax, boot: hd:3,/vmlinuz-2.6.29.5-191.fc11.ppc init=/ initrd-2.6.29.5-191.fc11.ppc.img yh Err..., init is a program you are running first. If everything else failed try 'init=/bin/bash' Okay, [...] init=/bin/bash ... VFS: mounted root [and something I missed as it rebooted.] Freeing unused kernel memory: 332k init Warning: unable to open an initial console. Failed to execute /bin/bash. Attempting defaults. . . Kernel panic. - not syncing: No init found. Try passing init= option to kernel. Rebooting in 180 seconds. Don't you have some earlier kernel which still boots? If that fails too then maybe indeed your /sbin/init is messed up but that would have nothing to do with kernels. The previous kernel did work, as I mentioned in another post, but only when I went in, renamed it (and the three other files) and so forth, as I described in the other post. I've yum remove-d kernel-2.6.30.5-43.fc11.ppc, and so it boots the old kernel and seems to run okay. So if the init= parameter is not supposed to be the initrd file, the bug in yaboot (under this ibook's openfirmware) might be that it's trying to pass an init= parameter when none is specified on the boot line. Hmm. I got a message back from the developers, from a comment I left where someone else reported this bug. Getting a fixed kernel is going to take a little time, they say. In the meantime, I'm avoiding updating, to keep the kernel at the previous level, and hoping the kernel/userland level mismatch will not bomb me out of anything important. Thanks. Joel Rees -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
new network card no visable
Hi all What happened to Kudzu ? lol I have replaced a network card on a firewall running fc10, I can see the network card in the lspci but it doesn't come up on network startup and isn't listed in system-configure-network-tui. The card if from the same manufacturer and has the same chip set as the old card .. It's not the first time I have had this issue. How does one rest the network card interface associations etc . In the old days kudzu used to do this ... ?? Thanks G -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: BIOS update
On Mon, 2009-09-28 at 00:04 +0400, Hiisi wrote: 2009/9/27 Gilboa Davara gilb...@gmail.com: --SNIP-- BIOS.exe. The error is: 'This program can't be run in DOS' Make sure you've downloaded the DOS version of their flash utility. (Usually called... flash.exe). I'm using in on a number of Gigabyte boards using freedos and it works just fine. I have VirtualBox installed on the computer. Is it possible to update BIOS from window$XP on virtual machine as guest? Nope. Virtual machines cannot really see real hardware. (Hence the name virtual.) Thanks in advance! P.S. which board is it? From lshw output: ... description: Motherboard product: S651MPRZ vendor: Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. physical id: 0 ... There's no flash.exe on gigabyte page: http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Support/Motherboard/BIOS_Model.aspx?ProductID=1792 - Gilboa Please downloaded your BIOS and follow my instruction. (I tested them on my Fedora - minus the flash, most of my Gigabyte boards are AMD based...) $ mkdir Temp $ cd Temp $ wget http://europe.giga-byte.com/FileList/BIOS/motherboard_bios_s651mprz_f8.exe ... $ WINEPREFIX=$PWD wine motherboard_bios_s651mprz_f8.exe ... $ ls autoexec.bat dosdevices drive_c FLASH891.EXE motherboard_bios_s651mprz_f8.exe s651mprz.f8 Now copy the FLASH891.EXE and s651mprz.f8 and autoexec.bat files to your freedos and floppy / USB disk / FAT partition / freedos network boot image and flash the BIOS. Delete the Temp directory once your down. - Gilboa -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: BIOS update
2009/9/28 Gilboa Davara gilb...@gmail.com: --SNIP-- Please downloaded your BIOS and follow my instruction. (I tested them on my Fedora - minus the flash, most of my Gigabyte boards are AMD based...) $ mkdir Temp $ cd Temp $ wget http://europe.giga-byte.com/FileList/BIOS/motherboard_bios_s651mprz_f8.exe ... $ WINEPREFIX=$PWD wine motherboard_bios_s651mprz_f8.exe ... $ ls autoexec.bat dosdevices drive_c FLASH891.EXE motherboard_bios_s651mprz_f8.exe s651mprz.f8 Now copy the FLASH891.EXE and s651mprz.f8 and autoexec.bat files to your freedos and floppy / USB disk / FAT partition / freedos network boot image and flash the BIOS. Delete the Temp directory once your down. - Gilboa Following Fred Smith tip I've unpacked bios.exe on my brother' window$ laptop. I'll try to boot my machine using FreeDOS floppy and flash my BIOS. Thanks everybody for participation. Appreciate that! -- Hiisi. Registered Linux User #487982. Be counted at: http://counter.li.org/ -- Spandex is a privilege, not a right. -- SIP: hi...@ekiga.net -- pub 1024D/085B139A -- Powered by Fedora: http://fedoraproject.org/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Seamonkey composer
For a quick and dirty web page edit, such as adding a single date to a club calendar, I like seamonkey composer. At the moment I have to open the web browser then change to composer, which seems silly. I've added the relevant command to the manu. Can anyone tell me how to add composer to the krunner, or will it appear when I've called it a few times? Thanks Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Seamonkey composer
Anne Wilson wrote: For a quick and dirty web page edit, such as adding a single date to a club calendar, I like seamonkey composer. At the moment I have to open the web browser then change to composer, which seems silly. I've added the relevant command to the manu. Can anyone tell me how to add composer to the krunner, or will it appear when I've called it a few times? Thanks 'seamonkey --help' ?? -- peace out. tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. ** help microsoft stamp out piracy - give linux to a friend today. ** to mess up a linux box, you need to work at it. to mess up an ms windows box, you just need to *look* at it. ** learn linux: 'Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition' http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html 'The Linux Documentation Project' http://www.tldp.org/ 'LDP HOWTO-index' http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/HOWTO-INDEX/index.html 'HowtoForge' http://howtoforge.com/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: location of popup helpers question
On Sunday 27 September 2009 22:42:55 Gene Heskett wrote: Greetings; I have one rather exasperating function I wish I could either turn off, or relocate. It's in kmail, the little helpful (not) gizmo that pops up if you leave the mouse sitting on an icon. It is useful for some things, but I have kmail setup with the message list pane left of the message pane, which puts the messages panes subject line not too far below the icons along the top of the main window. And when it pops up, it takes about a minute for it to go way, during which time the messages subject line is hidden. Having to move the mouse to a clear place when I want to switch to the + key, and back again tends to aggravate my arthritis. Can this be relocated to a point above the icon, or can the display timeout be set down to maybe 2 seconds? If so, what file do I edit to accomplish this? It's not entirely clear which tooltip you are referring to, but go to http://userbase.kde.org/KMail/FAQs_Hints_and_Tips and it's probably 2.7 or 2.8 that you need. Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: I think something is 'stuck' on the fedoara-list ?!?
William Case wrote: I sent a message over a half an hour ago replying 'Yes' to your query; but that 'yes' response hasn't shown up here yet although it is in the archive. The usual turnaround time is about 1 to 2 minutes. The first two messages that I sent on this thread made it through instantly. have a look at timestamps in header to get an idea of where emails are getting delayed. -- peace out. tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. ** help microsoft stamp out piracy - give linux to a friend today. ** to mess up a linux box, you need to work at it. to mess up an ms windows box, you just need to *look* at it. ** learn linux: 'Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition' http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html 'The Linux Documentation Project' http://www.tldp.org/ 'LDP HOWTO-index' http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/HOWTO-INDEX/index.html 'HowtoForge' http://howtoforge.com/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Why is the base architecture i586?
For years the Fedora developers have said that changing the base architecture for all of the packages from i386 to i586 would actually make the code less efficient for i686 processors due to the large bumber of bug workarounds in i586 code for many i586 processors. So does anybody know why this change was done? Thanks, William -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Why is the base architecture i586?
On 09/28/2009 03:21 PM, William M. Quarles wrote: For years the Fedora developers have said that changing the base architecture for all of the packages from i386 to i586 would actually make the code less efficient for i686 processors due to the large bumber of bug workarounds in i586 code for many i586 processors. So does anybody know why this change was done? https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/releasenumber/FeatureList You can usually look up the feature list for more details https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/ArchitectureSupport Much of the older hardware has become obsolete and unsupported essentially in Fedora systems. Also because a lot of software specific issues have been fixed over time. Net result is that we get a bit of a performance increase while not losing much. This is again changing to i686 for Fedora 12 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/F12X86Support Rahul -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: location of popup helpers question
On Monday 28 September 2009, Anne Wilson wrote: On Sunday 27 September 2009 22:42:55 Gene Heskett wrote: Greetings; I have one rather exasperating function I wish I could either turn off, or relocate. It's in kmail, the little helpful (not) gizmo that pops up if you leave the mouse sitting on an icon. It is useful for some things, but I have kmail setup with the message list pane left of the message pane, which puts the messages panes subject line not too far below the icons along the top of the main window. And when it pops up, it takes about a minute for it to go way, during which time the messages subject line is hidden. Having to move the mouse to a clear place when I want to switch to the + key, and back again tends to aggravate my arthritis. Can this be relocated to a point above the icon, or can the display timeout be set down to maybe 2 seconds? If so, what file do I edit to accomplish this? It's not entirely clear which tooltip you are referring to, but go to http://userbase.kde.org/KMail/FAQs_Hints_and_Tips and it's probably 2.7 or 2.8 that you need. Anne In particular, the one for the next button, Anne. Thanks, when I do get up for good, I'll check that link out. -- Cheers, Gene There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) The NRA is offering FREE Associate memberships to anyone who wants them. https://www.nrahq.org/nrabonus/accept-membership.asp Small is beautiful. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: location of popup helpers question
On Monday 28 September 2009 11:28:22 Gene Heskett wrote: On Monday 28 September 2009, Anne Wilson wrote: On Sunday 27 September 2009 22:42:55 Gene Heskett wrote: Greetings; I have one rather exasperating function I wish I could either turn off, or relocate. It's in kmail, the little helpful (not) gizmo that pops up if you leave the mouse sitting on an icon. It is useful for some things, but I have kmail setup with the message list pane left of the message pane, which puts the messages panes subject line not too far below the icons along the top of the main window. And when it pops up, it takes about a minute for it to go way, during which time the messages subject line is hidden. Having to move the mouse to a clear place when I want to switch to the + key, and back again tends to aggravate my arthritis. Can this be relocated to a point above the icon, or can the display timeout be set down to maybe 2 seconds? If so, what file do I edit to accomplish this? It's not entirely clear which tooltip you are referring to, but go to http://userbase.kde.org/KMail/FAQs_Hints_and_Tips and it's probably 2.7 or 2.8 that you need. Anne In particular, the one for the next button, Anne. Thanks, when I do get up for good, I'll check that link out. You'll find plenty that's useful there, Gene, but it won't solve this particular problem. I think that is a system-wide setting, so try systemsettings Appearance Windows Buttons tab Show window button tooltips Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Seamonkey composer
On Monday 28 September 2009 09:36:24 g wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: For a quick and dirty web page edit, such as adding a single date to a club calendar, I like seamonkey composer. At the moment I have to open the web browser then change to composer, which seems silly. I've added the relevant command to the manu. Can anyone tell me how to add composer to the krunner, or will it appear when I've called it a few times? Thanks 'seamonkey --help' ?? Nope. This is more of a problem of understanding where krunner gets its info. I know that when desktop search gets fully implemented it will be picked up, and maybe it will even now, if I wait a bit. The actual command to run it is 'seamonkey-bin -edit' and I can do that in krunner, but it hasn't yet got the capability of offering me that command in completion mode. Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: backlight control
Am Sonntag, den 27.09.2009, 13:58 -0700 schrieb Konstantin Svist: What component is responsible for turning off the backlight when the laptop lid is down? I'm running F11/radeon/xfce xfce4-power-manager, if it's installed. Regards, Christoph -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
a fully open source ECM suite? i'm glad you asked.
http://candyandaspirin.blogspot.com/2009/09/next-adventure-in-ecm-begins.html DISCLAIMER: i know the lady in question, but that doesn't stop you from appreciating the idea of total open source. rday p.s. here's my contribution to the cause: http://www.crashcourse.ca/wiki/index.php/Nuxeo probably needs a bit of updating by now. -- Robert P. J. Day Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry. Web page: http://crashcourse.ca Twitter: http://twitter.com/rpjday -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: a fully open source ECM suite? i'm glad you asked.
On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 08:22:45 -0400 (EDT) Robert P. J. Day wrote: http://candyandaspirin.blogspot.com/2009/09/next-adventure-in-ecm-begins.html DISCLAIMER: i know the lady in question, but that doesn't stop you from appreciating the idea of total open source. We might appreciate it more if we knew what in the blue blazes ECM was :-). -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: a fully open source ECM suite? i'm glad you asked.
On Mon, 28 Sep 2009, Tom Horsley wrote: On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 08:22:45 -0400 (EDT) Robert P. J. Day wrote: http://candyandaspirin.blogspot.com/2009/09/next-adventure-in-ecm-begins.html DISCLAIMER: i know the lady in question, but that doesn't stop you from appreciating the idea of total open source. We might appreciate it more if we knew what in the blue blazes ECM was :-). heh, indeed. Enterprise Content Management. WCM = Web Content Management DM = Document Management rday -- Robert P. J. Day Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry. Web page: http://crashcourse.ca Twitter: http://twitter.com/rpjday -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: a fully open source ECM suite? i'm glad you asked.
On Mon, 2009-09-28 at 08:43 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 08:22:45 -0400 (EDT) Robert P. J. Day wrote: http://candyandaspirin.blogspot.com/2009/09/next-adventure-in-ecm-begins.html DISCLAIMER: i know the lady in question, but that doesn't stop you from appreciating the idea of total open source. We might appreciate it more if we knew what in the blue blazes ECM was :-). Enterprise content management; the new name for content management. It's a common enough term for the topic - wikipedia has an article by the name (with an almost insignificant This article has multiple issues section ;): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enterprise_content_management Regards, Bryn. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: I think something is 'stuck' on the fedoara-list ?!?
On Mon, 2009-09-28 at 10:06 +0400, Hiisi wrote: In my opinion gmail is the best mail-provider I've ever used. But I use web-mail, not programs like evolution or kmail... These are not mutually exclusive. I use Gmail for most of my lists, but do it via IMAP through Evolution. I then always have the webmail interface as a fallback in case Evo screws up (not that it ever does of course :-), plus I can keep complete archives and search them very quickly, take advantage of Gmail's excvellent spam filtering, etc. poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: scim - Fedora 11
On Mon, 2009-09-28 at 13:59 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: Craig White wrote: On Mon, 2009-09-28 at 12:00 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: Craig White wrote: ibus however worked right away in most everything. I deleted my symbolic link from scim.conf = ~/.xinputrc and replaced it with ibus.conf and am going to log out now but I think this will be more than sufficient. ;-) Yeah I'm probably going to stick with ibus going forward. I may play with scim to see if I can get it working it I have time.. OK but I am confused. ibus looks really simple and seems to work but I am too stupid to know if it is simplified (what I want) or traditional (I think what you want) and I can't tell and I can't see any way to communicate this to ibus. Do you have any idea? Does ibus give you traditional? Unless you have installed other input methods for Chinese use PinYin and you will get Simplified Chinese. For example, if I use PinYin to enter my wife's family name I would get 杨 as one of the choices. This is equivalent to 楊 which you'd get by, for example, using Chewing. OK - I am just paranoid then because I am used to everything always telling me exactly which Chinese character set [simplified|traditional] and ibus doesn't give me any hints. I thought you were in Taiwan? Don't you use traditional? Craig -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: scim - Fedora 11
Craig White wrote: On Mon, 2009-09-28 at 13:59 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: Craig White wrote: On Mon, 2009-09-28 at 12:00 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: Craig White wrote: ibus however worked right away in most everything. I deleted my symbolic link from scim.conf = ~/.xinputrc and replaced it with ibus.conf and am going to log out now but I think this will be more than sufficient. ;-) Yeah I'm probably going to stick with ibus going forward. I may play with scim to see if I can get it working it I have time.. OK but I am confused. ibus looks really simple and seems to work but I am too stupid to know if it is simplified (what I want) or traditional (I think what you want) and I can't tell and I can't see any way to communicate this to ibus. Do you have any idea? Does ibus give you traditional? Unless you have installed other input methods for Chinese use PinYin and you will get Simplified Chinese. For example, if I use PinYin to enter my wife's family name I would get 杨 as one of the choices. This is equivalent to 楊 which you'd get by, for example, using Chewing. OK - I am just paranoid then because I am used to everything always telling me exactly which Chinese character set [simplified|traditional] and ibus doesn't give me any hints. I thought you were in Taiwan? Don't you use traditional? Yes, I'm in Taiwan. And, yes, I use traditional98% of the time. Need to deal with simplified from time to time. -- polygon: Dead parrot. Guess Who! http://tinyurl.com/mc4xe7 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How to dump the locked up program
Vincent Onelli wrote: Hello all, Is there way to dump the program stop responding, instead of do a full reboot?. What you are calling dump is probably called kill in the Unix world. And program is better spelled process. So, a simple Google search for How do I kill a process in Linux? will give you a lot of answers. In a console: kill 666 (where 666 is the PID of the process) Via GUI, it depends on GNOME, KDE, whatever you are using (it could be Ctrl-Esc or similar key commands). -- Roberto Ragusamail at robertoragusa.it -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: missing dependency with qt4-devel for assistant-qt4
Hiisi wrote: 2009/9/28 Rob spamref...@yahoo.com: I planned to write a program with Qt, using the designer-qt4. Installing qt4-devel pulled in lots of other dependencies. When I started the designer-qt4 and clicked on 'help' in the menu, this opened assistant-qt4 completely empty: no contents and no index at all. It took me a while to figure out that apparently the qt-doc had not been installed. Installing qt-doc.noarch solved the problem. Therefore I assume that this is a missing dependency of qt4-devel, which comes with the assistant-qt4, but not automatically with the necessary documentation to make the assistant work! ... I think you should fill a bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/index.cgi And ask the same question on devel-list (fedora-devel-l...@redhat.com). I think I've got all the issues outlined here fixed in qt-4.5.2-20 in rawhide. These fixes will be included in the next update for F-10/F-11 (current plan is when qt-4.5.3 lands). -- Rex -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Going from ODF to MSOffice
Hi, The powers that be want me off my nice clean and completely functional OS onto that pile of ik from MS and part of that is getting my stuff from ODF to Office (not sure if it's 2007 or 2003). I know that I can export as MS Office, or do a bulk import of MS Office to ODF via OOo, but can't do a bulk ODF to MS Office convert. Is there a way to do this? Don't mind if it need another package. Please don't say OOo is available for Win32 - I know it is, but the powers that want me on Office :-(. Anyone who says Office2007 SP2 can import ODF, please don't. It can't correct. It makes a mess of it! TTFN Paul -- It's only me, only me and no-one else. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: installing new graphics card FIXED
On 09/28/2009 09:09 AM, Gerhard Magnus wrote: (If this question doesn't have a short answer maybe someone could suggest a webpage to look at) Perhaps have a lok at the nvidia config page at rpmfusion (where you are getting the rpm packaged version of the kernel modules driver from. http://rpmfusion.org/Howto/nVidia http://rpmfusion.org/Package theb the three kmod/nvidia links. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How to dump the locked up program
On Mon, 2009-09-28 at 15:24 +0200, Roberto Ragusa wrote: Vincent Onelli wrote: Hello all, Is there way to dump the program stop responding, instead of do a full reboot?. What you are calling dump is probably called kill in the Unix world. And program is better spelled process. So, a simple Google search for How do I kill a process in Linux? will give you a lot of answers. In a console: kill 666 (where 666 is the PID of the process) Via GUI, it depends on GNOME, KDE, whatever you are using (it could be Ctrl-Esc or similar key commands). A couple of extra points: 1) The kill command doesn't technically kill the process, it sends it a signal. kill -l gives a list of possible signals. The default signal (SIGTERM) can be caught by the process. This is to allow it to clean up before finishing (and it might decide not to finish at all). SIGKILL on the other hand cannot be caught. 2) Sometimes a process cannot be killed even with SIGKILL (because it's waiting in the kernel on some event that will never happen) and a reboot is the only answer. poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
RE: gnome-terminal question
ok took a look at the hoto that a few had referenced. it seems to apply to xterm windows, as opposed to gnome terms, but i went ahead and attempted to implement the escape sequences with no luck.. (could just be user error!) i also attempted to try to modify the underlying conf files for gnome-terminal, using the gconftool to dump the intial key/value pairs from my test gnome-terminal profile. steps: 1) create a test gnome profile 2) do a gconftool -- dump ./.gconf/apps/gnome-terminal/profiles/test1 testconf (this gets a dump of the key/values for the test profile) 3) modify the title element/key in the dumped file.. 4) do a load of the new/modified dumped file, to see if this gets loaded in the current gnome-terminal with the changed title -- gconftool --load testconf the changed title is in the testconf file. the gnome-terminal title is still the same, ie the changes i made aren't in the profile, although there was/were no error generated by the --load of the conf file i also reset the PROMPT-COMMAND to just in the weird case it was somehow resetting my changes... i've seen a number of people who've had this same/similar question, with no apparent solution... i'm willing to create a short step-by-step process once this is solved! thoughts/comments/pointers... thanks... -Original Message- From: fedora-list-boun...@redhat.com [mailto:fedora-list-boun...@redhat.com]on Behalf Of Tony Nelson Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2009 5:36 PM To: fedora-list@redhat.com Subject: Re: gnome-terminal question On 09-09-27 19:19:48, Richard England wrote: On 09/27/2009 02:09 PM, bruce wrote: hey... trying to solve an issue on changing the title of the current gnome-terminal session. how does one go about changing the title of the current gnome-terminal via the cmdline... i'm trying to figure out if you can use escape sequences, or modifying the profile for the terminal. trying some of the escape sequences from different web sites haven't worked... thoughts/comments/pointers appreciated... i'm running fedora 9 thanks Have you investigated http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Xterm-Title.html What have you tried? If you post your trials, someone may spot a problem or we may be able to test it. I think the problem is that PROMPT_COMMAND is setting it each command, after you set it. Either unset PROMPT_COMMAND or change it to do what you want. -- TonyN.:' mailto:tonynel...@georgeanelson.com ' http://www.georgeanelson.com/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How to dump the locked up program
On Monday 28 September 2009 15:04:08 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Mon, 2009-09-28 at 15:24 +0200, Roberto Ragusa wrote: Vincent Onelli wrote: Hello all, Is there way to dump the program stop responding, instead of do a full reboot?. What you are calling dump is probably called kill in the Unix world. And program is better spelled process. So, a simple Google search for How do I kill a process in Linux? will give you a lot of answers. In a console: kill 666 (where 666 is the PID of the process) Via GUI, it depends on GNOME, KDE, whatever you are using (it could be Ctrl-Esc or similar key commands). A couple of extra points: 1) The kill command doesn't technically kill the process, it sends it a signal. kill -l gives a list of possible signals. The default signal (SIGTERM) can be caught by the process. This is to allow it to clean up before finishing (and it might decide not to finish at all). SIGKILL on the other hand cannot be caught. 2) Sometimes a process cannot be killed even with SIGKILL (because it's waiting in the kernel on some event that will never happen) and a reboot is the only answer. In many distros the key-combination ctrl-alt-Esc starts kill - producing a skull and crossbones icon, which you then move to the titlebar of the gui application you want to kill. If you change your mind, Esc gets you out of it. Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: I think something is 'stuck' on the fedoara-list ?!? [SOLVED - kinda]
On Mon, 2009-09-28 at 10:06 +0400, Hiisi wrote: 2009/9/28 William Case billli...@rogers.com: Hi Hiisi On Mon, 2009-09-28 at 00:37 +0400, Hiisi wrote: 2009/9/28 William Case billli...@rogers.com: Does it matter if you have a replay to your post (like now)? Can you see your message now? Can you see your message now? I sent a message over a half an hour ago replying 'Yes' to your query; but that 'yes' response hasn't shown up here yet although it is in the archive. The usual turnaround time is about 1 to 2 minutes. The first two messages that I sent on this thread made it through instantly. The 'yes' response which was sent about a half hour - 45 minutes before the second response arrived here about an hour after the second message i.e. about 2 hours after sending. OK. We have here two messages from you, the second arrived about a half of an hour after the first one. The second message, a reply to does it matter arrived first about 1-2 minutes after sending. I also noticed that even for a thread that wasn't mine, I received a users response about 1/2 an hour before I received the original post. Recently I had similar problem with my messages. But in my case I new exactly where problem laid. I used rambler.ru here in Moscow, Russia. And they have the same reputation of 'screwing around with their system on weekends without telling anybody' ;-) My solution was to sign up in gmail, then set up my old address as 'reply-to' in gmail and forward all messages to the new mailbox from the old one. You could then unsubscribe the old address from list-messages and subscribe for it on the new one. Hope that helps. In my opinion gmail is the best mail-provider I've ever used. But I use web-mail, not programs like evolution or kmail... For the time being I am going to drop the issue, as things seem to be straightening out. Just for future reference, and to add to my own personal knowledge, I wish I had a better idea of what was going on. I have wasted 2 or 3 hours try to figure out what I did wrong when I probably haven't done anything I shouldn't have. It would be nice to be able to recognize the source of this kind of problem. -- Regards Bill Fedora 11, Gnome 2.26.3 Evo.2.26.3, Emacs 23.1.1 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: gnome-terminal question
2009/9/27 bruce bedoug...@earthlink.net: hey... trying to solve an issue on changing the title of the current gnome-terminal session. how does one go about changing the title of the current gnome-terminal via the cmdline... i'm trying to figure out if you can use escape sequences, or modifying the profile for the terminal. trying some of the escape sequences from different web sites haven't worked... thoughts/comments/pointers appreciated... Follow the instructions at http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Xterm-Title.html. You don't say which shell you're using, but using the default bash shell, you can do this: $ echo -ne \033]0;A New Title\007 You'll probably need to unset the PROMPT_COMMAND value first; $ export PROMPT_COMMAND= i'm running fedora 9 You know that's unsupported, right? I strongly recommend upgrading. hth, Dave... -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Going from ODF to MSOffice
On Mon, 2009-09-28 at 14:47 +0100, Paul F. Johnson wrote: Hi, The powers that be want me off my nice clean and completely functional OS onto that pile of ik from MS and part of that is getting my stuff from ODF to Office (not sure if it's 2007 or 2003). I know that I can export as MS Office, or do a bulk import of MS Office to ODF via OOo, but can't do a bulk ODF to MS Office convert. Is there a way to do this? Don't mind if it need another package. Please don't say OOo is available for Win32 - I know it is, but the powers that want me on Office :-(. Anyone who says Office2007 SP2 can import ODF, please don't. It can't correct. It makes a mess of it! I was able to run OpenOffice 'headless' and batch convert using Alfresco but that is overkill here. I would probably suggest that you check the openoffice.org website Craig -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: location of popup helpers question
On Monday 28 September 2009, Anne Wilson wrote: On Sunday 27 September 2009 22:42:55 Gene Heskett wrote: Greetings; I have one rather exasperating function I wish I could either turn off, or relocate. It's in kmail, the little helpful (not) gizmo that pops up if you leave the mouse sitting on an icon. It is useful for some things, but I have kmail setup with the message list pane left of the message pane, which puts the messages panes subject line not too far below the icons along the top of the main window. And when it pops up, it takes about a minute for it to go way, during which time the messages subject line is hidden. Having to move the mouse to a clear place when I want to switch to the + key, and back again tends to aggravate my arthritis. Can this be relocated to a point above the icon, or can the display timeout be set down to maybe 2 seconds? If so, what file do I edit to accomplish this? It's not entirely clear which tooltip you are referring to, but go to http://userbase.kde.org/KMail/FAQs_Hints_and_Tips and it's probably 2.7 or 2.8 that you need. Anne I've looked, with right clicks, on several items, but I'm apparently not seeing what you are. And I also have noted that its been 2 weeks or so since I was last able to forward a message from the pulldown 'message' menu as it shows only one choice, custom template, which doesn't exist. The FWD button does work, but is not an inline forward, but as an attachment. I have had 2 rather spectacular crashes in that time frame, both related to watching a video someone sent me a link to, and the last one took a reboot to fix as it also wiped out X. kmail advised me that a recovery was possible, but that I would lose all my message flags, and it was after that when I noted I had lost the choices in the fwd menu. And it is the same with the mark messages menu, there are no choices now, either in the pulldown, or in the configure-kmailappearancemessage-tags. That screen is displayed ok, but there are no choices available. -- Cheers, Gene There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) The NRA is offering FREE Associate memberships to anyone who wants them. https://www.nrahq.org/nrabonus/accept-membership.asp Man is a rational animal who always loses his temper when he is called upon to act in accordance with the dictates of reason. -- Oscar Wilde -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Power cut woes
Hi all, I have an old PC running F10, setup to play a simple animation in a display. Nothing fancy. Yesterday the town was hit with a series of power cuts which seems to have well and truely mucked it up. I took a picture of the kind of errors I'm getting: http://www.bacomponents.co.uk/f10-startup-errors.jpeg The HAL bit sits for ages, then the screen blanks. X fails to start, trying to login on the console gives me a password error, and ssh fails to connect. I've run e2fsck on the disk and it seems fine. Should I just nuke it and start again? Or is there a handy way to fix it? -Phil -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: I think something is 'stuck' on the fedoara-list ?!? [SOLVED - kinda]
William Case wrote: Just for future reference, and to add to my own personal knowledge, I wish I had a better idea of what was going on. I have wasted 2 or 3 hours try to figure out what I did wrong when I probably haven't done anything I shouldn't have. It would be nice to be able to recognize the source of this kind of problem. Have you checked the Received headers of the messages in question? It's quite possible that one of the hops along the way was the source of the delay. Greylisting or other anti-spam tactics might be the cause. -- ToddOpenPGP - KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ Remember, there's a big difference between kneeling down and bending over. -- Frank Zappa pgp2xZ2WGH9bO.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Power cut woes
On Mon, 2009-09-28 at 16:05 +0100, Philip Heron wrote: Hi all, I have an old PC running F10, setup to play a simple animation in a display. Nothing fancy. Yesterday the town was hit with a series of power cuts which seems to have well and truely mucked it up. I took a picture of the kind of errors I'm getting: http://www.bacomponents.co.uk/f10-startup-errors.jpeg The HAL bit sits for ages, then the screen blanks. X fails to start, trying to login on the console gives me a password error, and ssh fails to connect. I've run e2fsck on the disk and it seems fine. Should I just nuke it and start again? Or is there a handy way to fix it? it should be a bit more graceful in handling this... In the past, I have pressed ControlC to cancel the process, then once it boots, I tell the system to restart and do not log in until it has done a normal restart. I think that there are many files left over from the abrupt shutdown in /proc that have to be cleaned out which is why you are getting those errors. Craig -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Power cut woes
On 09/28/2009 11:05 AM, Philip Heron wrote: Hi all, I have an old PC running F10, setup to play a simple animation in a display. Nothing fancy. Yesterday the town was hit with a series of power cuts which seems to have well and truely mucked it up. I took a picture of the kind of errors I'm getting: http://www.bacomponents.co.uk/f10-startup-errors.jpeg The HAL bit sits for ages, then the screen blanks. X fails to start, trying to login on the console gives me a password error, and ssh fails to connect. I've run e2fsck on the disk and it seems fine. Should I just nuke it and start again? Or is there a handy way to fix it? I'd look into the errors that happen way before hal tries to start. I'd probably force an fsck on the partition that holds /etc because it looks like your /etc/passwd file is messed up Maybe all of your filesystems Then, again, perhaps this is the result of running fsck on your filesystems after the power failures. You may be SOL if you were running fsck and took a power hit. If that's the case, a re-install may be your best bet. Do you have file fragments in your top level lost+found directories? -Phil -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
RE: gnome-terminal question
hi dave... thanks... went back, and rechecked the howto... it was a user error! i had been using 003 instead of 033 .. gotta learn to read! and yeah.. i know the system is a few versions back! 09 vs 10.. thanks! ps. know.. if i can figure out how to use the gnome-terminal --execute foo without having the child process error msg appear... thanks again.. -Original Message- From: fedora-list-boun...@redhat.com [mailto:fedora-list-boun...@redhat.com]on Behalf Of Dave Cross Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 7:42 AM To: Community assistance, encouragement,and advice for using Fedora. Subject: Re: gnome-terminal question 2009/9/27 bruce bedoug...@earthlink.net: hey... trying to solve an issue on changing the title of the current gnome-terminal session. how does one go about changing the title of the current gnome-terminal via the cmdline... i'm trying to figure out if you can use escape sequences, or modifying the profile for the terminal. trying some of the escape sequences from different web sites haven't worked... thoughts/comments/pointers appreciated... Follow the instructions at http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Xterm-Title.html. You don't say which shell you're using, but using the default bash shell, you can do this: $ echo -ne \033]0;A New Title\007 You'll probably need to unset the PROMPT_COMMAND value first; $ export PROMPT_COMMAND= i'm running fedora 9 You know that's unsupported, right? I strongly recommend upgrading. hth, Dave... -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: location of popup helpers question
On Monday 28 September 2009, Anne Wilson wrote: On Monday 28 September 2009 11:28:22 Gene Heskett wrote: On Monday 28 September 2009, Anne Wilson wrote: On Sunday 27 September 2009 22:42:55 Gene Heskett wrote: Greetings; I have one rather exasperating function I wish I could either turn off, or relocate. It's in kmail, the little helpful (not) gizmo that pops up if you leave the mouse sitting on an icon. It is useful for some things, but I have kmail setup with the message list pane left of the message pane, which puts the messages panes subject line not too far below the icons along the top of the main window. And when it pops up, it takes about a minute for it to go way, during which time the messages subject line is hidden. Having to move the mouse to a clear place when I want to switch to the + key, and back again tends to aggravate my arthritis. Can this be relocated to a point above the icon, or can the display timeout be set down to maybe 2 seconds? If so, what file do I edit to accomplish this? It's not entirely clear which tooltip you are referring to, but go to http://userbase.kde.org/KMail/FAQs_Hints_and_Tips and it's probably 2.7 or 2.8 that you need. Anne In particular, the one for the next button, Anne. Thanks, when I do get up for good, I'll check that link out. You'll find plenty that's useful there, Gene, but it won't solve this particular problem. I think that is a system-wide setting, so try systemsettings Appearance Windows Buttons tab Show window button tooltips Anne That also seems to be a no-op, it was, I cycled it, left it off clicked apply, but when I park the mouse over the next arrow, a tooltip will pop up in a short time, and which covers the left end of that messages subject line. I am rather not inclined to move .kde as that means I'd have to spend a couple of long days rebuilding the message sort filters among other things. I would love to see kde break the kmailrc file up in subcategories as separate files, keeping everything kmail related in the kmailrc has led to several extensive, re-inventing the wheel by starting with the fuel injectors type rebuilds over the years. Thanks for trying, Anne. -- Cheers, Gene There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) The NRA is offering FREE Associate memberships to anyone who wants them. https://www.nrahq.org/nrabonus/accept-membership.asp Most people have two reasons for doing anything -- a good reason, and the real reason. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Munged Headers....
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 16:31:18 +1000, Cameron Simpson c...@zip.com.au wrote: Bruno, I notice you're running mutt-1.5.18. I'm running 1.5.20 and it produces much nicer results, which are visibly good to the human eye. In fact it takes Frank's not properly 2407 encoded header and undoes it and writes an unencoded address, nice and clear. Maybe you could upgrade - it would save a lot of bickering:-) I have been planning to upgrade this machine for a while (both software and replacing the hardware). Bruno, could you attach Frank's original message, as it is in _your_ mail folder, to your reply for inspection? I'd like to compare it against my copy and the copy Ed sent me. I have trouble believing they're all the same. I don't have the copy that I originally replied to. I have a copy I pulled from the archive when I started looking in to the issue. I send you that attachment privately and try to supply what would have been on the cc header in the same message (without sending another copy back to the list). -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Power cut woes
Kevin J. Cummings wrote: I'd look into the errors that happen way before hal tries to start. I'd probably force an fsck on the partition that holds /etc because it looks like your /etc/passwd file is messed up Maybe all of your filesystems Then, again, perhaps this is the result of running fsck on your filesystems after the power failures. You may be SOL if you were running fsck and took a power hit. If that's the case, a re-install may be your best bet. I suspect this might be the case - the second and third cut where only a minute apart, the machine would have been in the middle of starting up again. Do you have file fragments in your top level lost+found directories? e2fsck -f says it's clean, lost+found is empty. I tried starting up in runlevel 2 and although it boots up a lot quicker there are still a load of errors (mostly concerning missing users or UIDs) and I can't log in. The most I can do is restart it with Ctrl+Alt+Del. I don't know what all files are involved in the user database, but passwd and shadow seem fine? root and my own user are in there. -Phil -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: I think something is 'stuck' on the fedoara-list ?!? [SOLVED - kinda]
On Mon, 2009-09-28 at 10:37 -0400, William Case wrote: Just for future reference, and to add to my own personal knowledge, I wish I had a better idea of what was going on. I have wasted 2 or 3 hours try to figure out what I did wrong when I probably haven't done anything I shouldn't have. It would be nice to be able to recognize the source of this kind of problem. Bill, in my days as the guy where the buck stops for a University user community, one of the things I constantly had to explain was that email doesn't obey strict rules of time-ordering as seen by the user, and the fact that a message hasn't arrived *yet* wasn't necessarily my fault. It's quite illuminating to study how email actually works, end-to-end. It's enormously more complex than most people realize, in fact it's something of a miracle that it works at all :-) poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How to dump the locked up program
On Mon, 2009-09-28 at 15:30 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote: On Monday 28 September 2009 15:04:08 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Mon, 2009-09-28 at 15:24 +0200, Roberto Ragusa wrote: Vincent Onelli wrote: Hello all, Is there way to dump the program stop responding, instead of do a full reboot?. What you are calling dump is probably called kill in the Unix world. And program is better spelled process. So, a simple Google search for How do I kill a process in Linux? will give you a lot of answers. In a console: kill 666 (where 666 is the PID of the process) Via GUI, it depends on GNOME, KDE, whatever you are using (it could be Ctrl-Esc or similar key commands). A couple of extra points: 1) The kill command doesn't technically kill the process, it sends it a signal. kill -l gives a list of possible signals. The default signal (SIGTERM) can be caught by the process. This is to allow it to clean up before finishing (and it might decide not to finish at all). SIGKILL on the other hand cannot be caught. 2) Sometimes a process cannot be killed even with SIGKILL (because it's waiting in the kernel on some event that will never happen) and a reboot is the only answer. In many distros the key-combination ctrl-alt-Esc starts kill - producing a skull and crossbones icon, which you then move to the titlebar of the gui application you want to kill. If you change your mind, Esc gets you out of it. Interesting, I'd never seen that. It seems to be the same as the xkill command, which I sometimes find useful. However the OP didn't say he wanted to kill a GUI client. Also, xkill doesn't send any signals, it just closes the connection from the X client to the X server. Most clients then commit suicide, but nothing forces them to. poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Fedora IRC Classoom session coming up (2009-09-29 at 1:00 UTC)
Greetings. This is a regular posting every monday, letting people know about the upcoming IRC classroom sessions that are scheduled. From the Classroom page at: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Classroom we currently have the following Classes scheduled: 2009-09-29 01:00 UTC Upcoming Fedora 12 Features overview -- Kevin Fenzi Note that this is tonight in the evening in North America. (Use 'date -u' to see your current time and date in UTC). We have several other classes in planning stages now, hopefully to be announced soon. Please see the above page for more information on signing up to teach a class, providing feedback to the classroom mailing list or other general information. Hope to see lots of folks there! kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: location of popup helpers question
On Monday 28 September 2009 16:38:13 Gene Heskett wrote: On Monday 28 September 2009, Anne Wilson wrote: On Monday 28 September 2009 11:28:22 Gene Heskett wrote: On Monday 28 September 2009, Anne Wilson wrote: On Sunday 27 September 2009 22:42:55 Gene Heskett wrote: Greetings; I have one rather exasperating function I wish I could either turn off, or relocate. It's in kmail, the little helpful (not) gizmo that pops up if you leave the mouse sitting on an icon. It is useful for some things, but I have kmail setup with the message list pane left of the message pane, which puts the messages panes subject line not too far below the icons along the top of the main window. And when it pops up, it takes about a minute for it to go way, during which time the messages subject line is hidden. Having to move the mouse to a clear place when I want to switch to the + key, and back again tends to aggravate my arthritis. Can this be relocated to a point above the icon, or can the display timeout be set down to maybe 2 seconds? If so, what file do I edit to accomplish this? It's not entirely clear which tooltip you are referring to, but go to http://userbase.kde.org/KMail/FAQs_Hints_and_Tips and it's probably 2.7 or 2.8 that you need. Anne In particular, the one for the next button, Anne. Thanks, when I do get up for good, I'll check that link out. You'll find plenty that's useful there, Gene, but it won't solve this particular problem. I think that is a system-wide setting, so try systemsettings Appearance Windows Buttons tab Show window button tooltips Anne That also seems to be a no-op, it was, I cycled it, left it off clicked apply, but when I park the mouse over the next arrow, a tooltip will pop up in a short time, and which covers the left end of that messages subject line. I am rather not inclined to move .kde as that means I'd have to spend a couple of long days rebuilding the message sort filters among other things. I would love to see kde break the kmailrc file up in subcategories as separate files, keeping everything kmail related in the kmailrc has led to several extensive, re-inventing the wheel by starting with the fuel injectors type rebuilds over the years. Thanks for trying, Anne. You did restart kmail, didn't you? Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: latest selinux policy update errors
Mark Haney wrote: Is anyone else seeing these types of failures with the latest selinux updates? libsemanage.semanage_direct_remove: Module dpkg was not found. semodule: Failed on dpkg! error: %trigger(selinux-policy-strict-2.6.4-21.fc7.noarch) scriptlet failed, exit status 1 libsemanage.semanage_direct_remove: Module dpkg was not found. semodule: Failed on dpkg! error: %trigger(selinux-policy-strict-2.6.4-23.fc7.noarch) scriptlet failed, exit status 1 Should I file a bug report? No I think this is an isolated occurrence. If it happens on the next update, report it. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Power cut woes
On 09/28/2009 11:57 AM, Philip Heron wrote: Kevin J. Cummings wrote: I'd look into the errors that happen way before hal tries to start. I'd probably force an fsck on the partition that holds /etc because it looks like your /etc/passwd file is messed up Maybe all of your filesystems Then, again, perhaps this is the result of running fsck on your filesystems after the power failures. You may be SOL if you were running fsck and took a power hit. If that's the case, a re-install may be your best bet. I suspect this might be the case - the second and third cut where only a minute apart, the machine would have been in the middle of starting up again. Do you have file fragments in your top level lost+found directories? e2fsck -f says it's clean, lost+found is empty. I tried starting up in runlevel 2 and although it boots up a lot quicker there are still a load of errors (mostly concerning missing users or UIDs) and I can't log in. The most I can do is restart it with Ctrl+Alt+Del. You want to boot into runlevel 1 (single user mode). If you do it right, you'll already be the root user. If it continually prompts you for a password, you'll need a rescue disk to boot from. I don't know what all files are involved in the user database, but passwd and shadow seem fine? root and my own user are in there. Attack your errors one at a time, starting with the first error. Check the /var/log/dmesg and /var/log/boot.log files for more information. -Phil -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: location of popup helpers question
On Monday 28 September 2009, Anne Wilson wrote: On Monday 28 September 2009 16:38:13 Gene Heskett wrote: On Monday 28 September 2009, Anne Wilson wrote: On Monday 28 September 2009 11:28:22 Gene Heskett wrote: On Monday 28 September 2009, Anne Wilson wrote: On Sunday 27 September 2009 22:42:55 Gene Heskett wrote: Greetings; I have one rather exasperating function I wish I could either turn off, or relocate. It's in kmail, the little helpful (not) gizmo that pops up if you leave the mouse sitting on an icon. It is useful for some things, but I have kmail setup with the message list pane left of the message pane, which puts the messages panes subject line not too far below the icons along the top of the main window. And when it pops up, it takes about a minute for it to go way, during which time the messages subject line is hidden. Having to move the mouse to a clear place when I want to switch to the + key, and back again tends to aggravate my arthritis. Can this be relocated to a point above the icon, or can the display timeout be set down to maybe 2 seconds? If so, what file do I edit to accomplish this? It's not entirely clear which tooltip you are referring to, but go to http://userbase.kde.org/KMail/FAQs_Hints_and_Tips and it's probably 2.7 or 2.8 that you need. Anne In particular, the one for the next button, Anne. Thanks, when I do get up for good, I'll check that link out. You'll find plenty that's useful there, Gene, but it won't solve this particular problem. I think that is a system-wide setting, so try systemsettings Appearance Windows Buttons tab Show window button tooltips Anne That also seems to be a no-op, it was, I cycled it, left it off clicked apply, but when I park the mouse over the next arrow, a tooltip will pop up in a short time, and which covers the left end of that messages subject line. I am rather not inclined to move .kde as that means I'd have to spend a couple of long days rebuilding the message sort filters among other things. I would love to see kde break the kmailrc file up in subcategories as separate files, keeping everything kmail related in the kmailrc has led to several extensive, re-inventing the wheel by starting with the fuel injectors type rebuilds over the years. Thanks for trying, Anne. You did restart kmail, didn't you? Anne No, it has always responded instantly to any changes I made previously. This isn't winderz, where installing a mouse driver take 4 reboots. :) And a restart or reboot will not change anything now as this has been this way for a couple of weeks. It was last restarted 4 days ago when I installed kernel 2.6.31.1. -- Cheers, Gene There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) The NRA is offering FREE Associate memberships to anyone who wants them. https://www.nrahq.org/nrabonus/accept-membership.asp My mother is a fish. - William Faulkner -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: location of popup helpers question
On Monday 28 September 2009 17:36:13 Gene Heskett wrote: You did restart kmail, didn't you? Anne No, it has always responded instantly to any changes I made previously. This isn't winderz, where installing a mouse driver take 4 reboots. :) And a restart or reboot will not change anything now as this has been this way for a couple of weeks. It was last restarted 4 days ago when I installed kernel 2.6.31.1. Who mentioned rebooting? I suggested restarting kmail, as many applications only read configurations when they start up. As it happens, though, that wasn't the answer, either. I'll try to find out. Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How to dump the locked up program
On Monday 28 September 2009 17:07:06 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Mon, 2009-09-28 at 15:30 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote: On Monday 28 September 2009 15:04:08 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Mon, 2009-09-28 at 15:24 +0200, Roberto Ragusa wrote: Vincent Onelli wrote: Hello all, Is there way to dump the program stop responding, instead of do a full reboot?. What you are calling dump is probably called kill in the Unix world. And program is better spelled process. So, a simple Google search for How do I kill a process in Linux? will give you a lot of answers. In a console: kill 666 (where 666 is the PID of the process) Via GUI, it depends on GNOME, KDE, whatever you are using (it could be Ctrl-Esc or similar key commands). A couple of extra points: 1) The kill command doesn't technically kill the process, it sends it a signal. kill -l gives a list of possible signals. The default signal (SIGTERM) can be caught by the process. This is to allow it to clean up before finishing (and it might decide not to finish at all). SIGKILL on the other hand cannot be caught. 2) Sometimes a process cannot be killed even with SIGKILL (because it's waiting in the kernel on some event that will never happen) and a reboot is the only answer. In many distros the key-combination ctrl-alt-Esc starts kill - producing a skull and crossbones icon, which you then move to the titlebar of the gui application you want to kill. If you change your mind, Esc gets you out of it. Interesting, I'd never seen that. It seems to be the same as the xkill I believe it is xkill. command, which I sometimes find useful. However the OP didn't say he wanted to kill a GUI client. Also, xkill doesn't send any signals, it just closes the connection from the X client to the X server. Most clients then commit suicide, but nothing forces them to. It's simplistic, yes, but generally it gets rid of those pesky situations where something has obviously got stuck in a loop. Very useful. Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: bind-chroot directory permissions?
On Friday 25 September 2009 11:21:41 Tom Horsley wrote: I recently enabled dynamic DNS for the virtual machines I've been installing and named started getting errors (running as chroot) trying to write .jnl files to the /var/named directory under the chroot. Fixing the directory to be root:named 770 instead of root:named 750 took care of that. Then with the recent update of bind and bind-chroot, I started seeing these messages in the log: Sep 25 08:03:21 zooty named[12710]: dumping master file: tmp-PDw9vymVVL: open: permission denied I'm not sure what directory it is trying to write those in, but I found and chmodded a few more directories and haven't seen one of those messages since. Should directory permissions be adjusted in one or more of the rpms to take these things into account? 1. Don't turn selinux off on your local name-server system ... it actually works fine with bind/named. 2. You really do not need to run chroot'ed if you have selinux enabled. However, it will run fine and with selinux -- this will give you an belt and suspenders solution for named security. 3. As currently implemented on Fedora 11, dynamic updates (by dhcpd I assume) need to have your database files in either a dynamic or a slaves subdirectory of the named directory (either one will work). 4. Then, in the zone definitions in the named.conf file, you need to point to the subdirectory with something like: file dynamic/lcl.db; rather than: file lcl.db; Gene -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
booted from X if I unplug USB external drive
Hi all, My USB external disk doesn't go to sleep, even if it's not mounted. It was sleeping properly (even mounted!) with Fedora 9. Furthermore, if I unplug it (to make it sleep), I get booted from X. var/log only shows this: Sep 28 12:44:50 mauri kernel: usb 1-4: USB disconnect, address 3 Sep 28 12:45:04 mauri kdm[1950]: X server for display :0 terminated unexpectedly I'm using Fedora11 x86_64 - I'm actually not sure if this Fedora-related at all... if not, I apologize. best regards, mauri -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: location of popup helpers question
On Monday 28 September 2009, Anne Wilson wrote: On Monday 28 September 2009 17:36:13 Gene Heskett wrote: You did restart kmail, didn't you? Anne No, it has always responded instantly to any changes I made previously. This isn't winderz, where installing a mouse driver take 4 reboots. :) And a restart or reboot will not change anything now as this has been this way for a couple of weeks. It was last restarted 4 days ago when I installed kernel 2.6.31.1. Who mentioned rebooting? I suggested restarting kmail, as many applications only read configurations when they start up. As it happens, though, that wasn't the answer, either. I'll try to find out. Anne AFAIK, kmail updates that kmailrc file everytime it does _anything_, even clicking on the next message button updates it because it contains the current message numbers. The incoming mail function updates it similarly. All this is, to me, is a golden opportunity for any bug anyplace in the kmail -filesystem to eventually eat our respective lunches. Here, it is a bit over 131 kilobytes, and to expect a file to get data in the middle of it overwritten with random lengths of new data, and remain forever properly formatted and error free seems like tempting fate. It is now 12:58:30 and when I opened this message: [r...@coyote config]# ls -l kmailrc -rw--- 1 root root 139265 2009-09-28 12:51 kmailrc Now: [r...@coyote config]# ls -l kmailrc -rw--- 1 root root 139265 2009-09-28 12:56 kmailrc So incoming mail updated it, and that means it is a very high traffic file, and it has ALL of kmails eggs in it. IMO the data that needs updated frequently like that, really should be kept in a separate file. -- Cheers, Gene There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) The NRA is offering FREE Associate memberships to anyone who wants them. https://www.nrahq.org/nrabonus/accept-membership.asp Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: bind-chroot directory permissions?
On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 12:53:58 -0400 Gene Czarcinski wrote: 4. Then, in the zone definitions in the named.conf file, you need to point to the subdirectory with something like: file dynamic/lcl.db; rather than: file lcl.db; Yep, I was beginning to suspect that was the kind of organization the default rpms now expect me to use. Glad to have it confirmed. Thanks. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Going from ODF to MSOffice
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 02:47:05PM +0100, Paul F. Johnson wrote: Hi, The powers that be want me off my nice clean and completely functional OS onto that pile of ik from MS and part of that is getting my stuff from ODF to Office (not sure if it's 2007 or 2003). I know that I can export as MS Office, or do a bulk import of MS Office to ODF via OOo, but can't do a bulk ODF to MS Office convert. Is there a way to do this? Don't mind if it need another package. Please don't say OOo is available for Win32 - I know it is, but the powers that want me on Office :-(. Anyone who says Office2007 SP2 can import ODF, please don't. It can't correct. It makes a mess of it! I haven't looked into how to automate a bulk conversion, but... one step that may work out is to save all your OOo documents as .rtf then import rtf into Word. In my (admittedly limited) experience, using rtf as an intermediate format has worked out pretty well. Fred -- Fred Smith -- fre...@fcshome.stoneham.ma.us - The Lord detests the way of the wicked but he loves those who pursue righteousness. - Proverbs 15:9 (niv) - -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
sed, awk, or something...help meeeeeeeeeee
Hi All, I don't know if I should use sed for what I'm about to ask, but it seems like a good idea. If awk is better, or something else entirely, that's fine too. I have two files. File 1 looks like this: AA BB CC DD AA BB CC DD File 2 looks like this: 1 2 3 So, BB in file 1 always occurs in the same spot (i.e. between lines AA and CC). Knowing that, how do I replace the first occurrence of BB in file 1 with 1 from file 2, the second occurrence of BB in file 1 with 2 from file 2, and so on? I think a bash 'for' or 'while' loop may be useful here, too. But, it's the sed/awk/whatever bits I don't know how to do. I've read some of the man/info page, looked up sed help on the net, etc. I'm still not sure how to do the above with sed. Thanks in advance! Regards, Ranbir -- Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu Linux 2.6.27.30-170.2.82.fc10.x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux 13:29:18 up 9 days, 3:04, 3 users, load average: 1.13, 0.37, 0.18 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: sed, awk, or something...help meeeeeeeeeee
Am 28.09.2009 19:38, schrieb Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu: Hi All, I don't know if I should use sed for what I'm about to ask, but it seems like a good idea. If awk is better, or something else entirely, that's fine too. I have two files. File 1 looks like this: AA BB CC DD AA BB CC DD File 2 looks like this: 1 2 3 So, BB in file 1 always occurs in the same spot (i.e. between lines AA and CC). Knowing that, how do I replace the first occurrence of BB in file 1 with 1 from file 2, the second occurrence of BB in file 1 with 2 from file 2, and so on? I think a bash 'for' or 'while' loop may be useful here, too. But, it's the sed/awk/whatever bits I don't know how to do. I've read some of the man/info page, looked up sed help on the net, etc. I'm still not sure how to do the above with sed. Thanks in advance! Regards, Ranbir Probably it's not what you want, but I would prefer writing a 50 lines standard C program for that task... Joerg -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: location of popup helpers question
On Monday 28 September 2009 18:05:11 Gene Heskett wrote: AFAIK, kmail updates that kmailrc file everytime it does _anything_, even clicking on the next message button updates it because it contains the current message numbers. The incoming mail function updates it similarly. All this is, to me, is a golden opportunity for any bug anyplace in the kmail -filesystem to eventually eat our respective lunches. Here, it is a bit over 131 kilobytes, and to expect a file to get data in the middle of it overwritten with random lengths of new data, and remain forever properly formatted and error free seems like tempting fate. It is now 12:58:30 and when I opened this message: [r...@coyote config]# ls -l kmailrc -rw--- 1 root root 139265 2009-09-28 12:51 kmailrc Now: [r...@coyote config]# ls -l kmailrc -rw--- 1 root root 139265 2009-09-28 12:56 kmailrc So incoming mail updated it, and that means it is a very high traffic file, and it has ALL of kmails eggs in it. IMO the data that needs updated frequently like that, really should be kept in a separate file. Take a copy of your kmailrc, then again after one of your 'changes' and diff them. Tell us what comes out. I don't believe you have actually studied your kmailrc. It does not contain messages at all. It contains your folder definitions, which may be what you are mistaking for messages. It does contain quite a lot of other information, all of it configuration. Unless you are a very strange user it does not get updated very frequently. You will notice that in the example you quoted, the file size did not alter at all. Maybe what you see is a timestamp of when the file was accessed for information? You also said earlier I would love to see kde break the kmailrc file up in subcategories as separate files, . Why? One file does one job. In this case it defines all the norms for your folders, identities, accounts and mail transports. The reason your file is big (and mine is much bigger) is the number of identities and folders maintained. The kmailrc file is clearly broken up into labelled sections. There is no difficulty in seeing what each one does. Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: sed, awk, or something...help meeeeeeeeeee
On Mon, 2009-09-28 at 19:48 +0200, Joerg Bergmann wrote: Probably it's not what you want, but I would prefer writing a 50 lines standard C program for that task... Gah! 'Probably' isn't the right word. More reading and now I've got something along the lines of what I want to do, but it's obviously not going to work: sed '/BB/r file2' file1 This will dump the contents of file2 after each BB line in file1. That's not what I'm after. Is there a way in sed to read in one line at a time from file2 to replace BB from file1 (as I explained earlier)? Regards, Ranbir -- Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu Linux 2.6.27.30-170.2.82.fc10.x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux 14:00:55 up 9 days, 3:36, 3 users, load average: 1.28, 1.19, 0.95 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
creating a new gnome terminal, running a command when the term starts...
Hi. I'm trying to create/invoke a new gnome-terminal, were i start/run a script when the term starts up.. from the gnome-terminal docs, i'm assuming i can accomplish this by using the -x/-e attribute when i fire up gnome-terminal... this doesn't work... others appear to have the same issue... so, when i do: gnome-terminal -x foo a new gnome term is created, but it hangs without a bash prompt (or any prompt) created. so it appears that a useless blank term window is displayed. the foo script is simply an empty script for testing. it has the chgrp of 777 with a chown of 777 and a chmod of +x. in the fstab, there is a default devpts so the virtual dev for the term window should be ok.. i think. i'm running an older fedora 9 for this test. any pointers/thoughts... thanks... -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: I can't connect via ssh [SOLVED]
On Sun, 2009-09-27 at 11:33 -0400, Erik Hemdal wrote: . Message: 2 Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 17:23:17 -0300 From: Germ?n Racca german.ra...@gmail.com Subject: Re: I can't connect via ssh To: Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora. fedora-list@redhat.com Message-ID: 1253996597.1845.16.ca...@centauri.das.inpe.br Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Sat, 2009-09-26 at 15:30 -0400, Erik Hemdal wrote: From: Germ?n Racca german.ra...@gmail.com Subject: Re: I can't connect via ssh To: Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora. fedora-list@redhat.com Message-ID: 1253925734.7784.27.ca...@centauri.das.inpe.br Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi Erik, Thanks for your clarifying message! Now I discovered the following: I can ping and connect via ssh from other computer to my notebook, but *I can't from other computer to my PC*. The messages, from other computer to my PC are: $ ssh xx.xx.xx.xx ssh: connect to host xx.xx.xx.xx port 22: No route to host OK, so what can we learn from this? Your notebook has a working configuration of the SSH server and it can be found on the network. Your other computer probably has a good configuration of the SSH client. If you end up with SSH troubles, knowing which systems have known-good setups can be very important. But from what you've told me, I don't yet suspect SSH is the problem, there's something else. You aren't even reaching SSH on the computer you want to get to. $ ping xx.xx.xx.xx From xx.xx.xx.xx icmp_seq=11 Destination Host Unreachable So if I understand things, there are three computers here: The PC, which is the computer you're trying to access, let's call that Alpha, another computer, let's call it Baker, and your notebook, let's call it Charlie. Baker can ssh into Charlie. But neither Baker nor Charlie can ssh into Alpha. And Alpha is the one you really need to reach. Further,you can't even ping Alpha, you get the no route to host errors. Since you get them from two different computers, Baker and Charlie, I'm more suspicious that something on Alpha is the problem, or something on the network (the common link) is wrong. If I were there, I would check a few things. I'd log on to Alpha and see what I can do FROM that computer. Can you browse the Web, ping other computers, and so forth? That might tell us a lot. For example, if the network cable on that computer is loose or broken, you'd see these problems. Then, I'd try to look at the equipment itself: What is the computer connected to on the network? For example, it might go into a network box right there in the room, or it might just go into the wall. If the first case is true, then you can check the network connections that are there. If the network cable goes into the wall, you probably need to talk to the network admins for help. When other posters were asking about your physical setup, this is what they were asking about. If you can reboot Alpha, or at least restart its network service, you might cure the problem too. But you need to know if Alpha is working right first; don't just turn it off if you don't have to. Erik Hi all: After the administrator of the network changing the connection of my PC in the switcher, I can ping and connect via ssh from my PC to my notebook and vice versa. Thanks to all that helped me with this issue, I learned a bit more about this. Cheers abrazos, Germán -- Germán A. Racca National Institute for Space Research (INPE) São José dos Campos - SP - Brasil http://gracca.wordpress.com http://tinyurl.com/SkyTux -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: creating a new gnome terminal, running a command when the term starts...
2009/9/28 bruce bedoug...@earthlink.net: Hi. I'm trying to create/invoke a new gnome-terminal, were i start/run a script when the term starts up.. from the gnome-terminal docs, i'm assuming i can accomplish this by using the -x/-e attribute when i fire up gnome-terminal... this doesn't work... others appear to have the same issue... so, when i do: gnome-terminal -x foo I don't know what you are doing, but I don't think it's right. Try this: # echo echo hello /tmp/foo # echo sleep 100 /tmp/foo # chmod 755 /tmp/foo # gnome-terminal -e /tmp/foo On my system, that results in a new gnome-terminal opening, containing the word hello. If that works, then there is something wrong with your script and not gnome-terminal. -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: sed, awk, or something...help meeeeeeeeeee
On 09/28/2009 11:18 PM, Joerg Bergmann wrote: Am 28.09.2009 19:38, schrieb Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu: Hi All, I don't know if I should use sed for what I'm about to ask, but it seems like a good idea. If awk is better, or something else entirely, that's fine too. I have two files. File 1 looks like this: AA BB CC DD AA BB CC DD File 2 looks like this: 1 2 3 So, BB in file 1 always occurs in the same spot (i.e. between lines AA and CC). Knowing that, how do I replace the first occurrence of BB in file 1 with 1 from file 2, the second occurrence of BB in file 1 with 2 from file 2, and so on? I think a bash 'for' or 'while' loop may be useful here, too. But, it's the sed/awk/whatever bits I don't know how to do. I've read some of the man/info page, looked up sed help on the net, etc. I'm still not sure how to do the above with sed. Thanks in advance! Regards, Ranbir Probably it's not what you want, but I would prefer writing a 50 lines standard C program for that task... Seriously ?? ...no, really, seriously ? I'd recommend using python. something like: -- file1_lines = open(file1).readlines() file2_lines = open(file2).readlines() modified_file_lines = [] for line in file1_lines: if line == 'BB\n': modified_file_lines.append(file2_lines.pop(0)) else: modified_file_lines.append(line) open(modified.out, 'w').write(modified_file_lines) -- Of course, i've gone for clarity rather than efficiency here. If you understand that, I'll gladly show you how to write it more efficiently. cheers, - steve -- random non tech spiel: http://lonetwin.blogspot.com/ tech randomness: http://lonehacks.blogspot.com/ what i'm stumbling into: http://lonetwin.stumbleupon.com/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: sed, awk, or something...help meeeeeeeeeee
2009/9/28 Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu m3fr...@thesandhufamily.ca: On Mon, 2009-09-28 at 19:48 +0200, Joerg Bergmann wrote: Probably it's not what you want, but I would prefer writing a 50 lines standard C program for that task... Gah! 'Probably' isn't the right word. More reading and now I've got something along the lines of what I want to do, but it's obviously not going to work: sed '/BB/r file2' file1 This will dump the contents of file2 after each BB line in file1. That's not what I'm after. Is there a way in sed to read in one line at a time from file2 to replace BB from file1 (as I explained earlier)? Yes, but it involves reading the man page for sed - I'm not totally sure you are capable of doing that. I suggest looking at the output of man sed, finding the section about the command r and then reading the next few lines. -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
