KVM Routing VLAN's

[Overkill]

Greetings, I have a box with Fedora and with 3 nics assigned to three 
different subnets sitting behind a ASA firewall.  I have the nics setup 
as...


eth0 10.10.1.2 (outside, dmz1)
eth1 10.10.2.2 (inside, trusted)
eth2 10.10.3.2 (dmz, dmz2)

If I am sitting in the 10.10.2.x and I put in a public DNS name and 
route outside and come back into the 10.10.1.2 interface it simply 
drops.  If I have multiple vlan's I have to always access the host on 
it's local interface?  Is there no way around this?


Reason is I have public DNS entries that are nat'd to my eth0 interface 
and I cannot get to the web server, ftp, etc from the other vlan's.  Am 
I stuck setting up split brain DNS mapping it all internally?



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Re: Name of fedora lists - you're kidding right?

[Steven Susbauer]

On Dec 29, 2009, at 7:48 PM, Tim wrote:

> On Tue, 2009-12-29 at 11:10 -0800, Aldo Foot wrote:
>> There was a discussion a while back as to how to describe list. The
>> result is what you see today. The idea is that the list
>> name/description would clarify expectations to everyone arriving here.
>> In short it says: "this is what the fedora user list is for."
> 
> That may well be, but it's the wrong place to put a *description*.  And
> certainly not where any newcomer is going to see it.

It's not all that uncommon.

I've seen more than a few posts to this list that were also posted to:

Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions 


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Re: Where is 2.6.32?

[Mike Cloaked]

Mail Lists  sapience.com> writes:

> 
> On 12/29/2009 07:54 PM, Konstantin Svist wrote:
> > How come Fedora is still on 2.6.31? Is .32 held back on purpose or are
> > there issues merging it?
> > It took less than a week for .31.9 to be pushed through... but I don't
> > see .32 in updates-testing and it's been almost a whole month...
> > 
> 
>  Its not even in Koji ... unfortunately .. tho you may want to  post
> this in fedora-dev or fedora-test rather than the "Community assistance,
> encouragement, and advice for using Fedora. list ... 
> 

It looks like the kernel guys have been on a Christmas break - there are no
kernel builds at all in koji since the 24th  maybe they will return with
replenished New Year vigour and push out .32 for f11 and f12 before we can blink
an eye! (Well we can hope anyway!)



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Re: list server got slower ?

[Mike Cloaked]

Mail Lists  sapience.com> writes:

> 
> On 12/28/2009 02:46 PM, Sam Sharpe wrote:
> 
>  Good points ...
> 

All very well - but the fact remains that for a user like me the list is the
primary method of discussion about Fedora issues, fixes, workarounds etc.
and I would like to see a timely server response - certainly it did not
used to be like this with slow response.

Maybe when the lists move to their new servers around 9th January 2010 
then perhaps the servers will be tuned to deal with posts in a timely fashion?




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Re: Where is 2.6.32?

[Paulo Cavalcanti]

On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 9:12 AM, Mike Cloaked wrote:

> Mail Lists  sapience.com> writes:
>
> >
> > On 12/29/2009 07:54 PM, Konstantin Svist wrote:
> > > How come Fedora is still on 2.6.31? Is .32 held back on purpose or are
> > > there issues merging it?
> > > It took less than a week for .31.9 to be pushed through... but I don't
> > > see .32 in updates-testing and it's been almost a whole month...
> > >
> >
> >  Its not even in Koji ... unfortunately .. tho you may want to  post
> > this in fedora-dev or fedora-test rather than the "Community assistance,
> > encouragement, and advice for using Fedora. list ...
> >
>
> It looks like the kernel guys have been on a Christmas break - there are no
> kernel builds at all in koji since the 24th  maybe they will return
> with
> replenished New Year vigour and push out .32 for f11 and f12 before we can
> blink
> an eye! (Well we can hope anyway!)
>
>
>
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-December/msg01138.html

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Re: slow boot for latest fedora kernel 2.6.31.9-174.fc12.x86_64

[N James Bridge]

On Wed, 2009-12-30 at 10:19 +1030, Tim wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-12-29 at 20:00 +, N James Bridge wrote:
> > Without "quiet" I still get no output at all for 2min 35sec, then
> > normal rush of messages. Bootchart (very nice!) shows that the boot
> > process itself is running normally, once it starts, about 45sec
> > overall. The initial wait isn't shown on the chart. Once running,
> > everything seems to be working. The entries in grub.conf are
> > identical, except for version numbers.
> >  
> > So what causes the wait?
> 
> You haven't provided any details.  *Exactly* what text appears before
> the wait, and after the resumption?

Before: nothing. Just the flashing underline character, in the same
large typeface as the boot menu.

After: flashing underline switches to a smaller size, then a message
from plymouth (exactly the same for both versions of the kernel). 
plymouthd: ply_keyboard.c:450: ply_keyboard_add_input_handler:
'Assertion !=((void*)0)' failed.
After this it continues as expected.
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Problem with shutdown button not firing ACPI event

[Gijs]

Hello List,

I'm trying to get my shutdown button to work, but I can't seem to figure 
it out. When I press the button, nothing is received when I listen to 
ACPI events using acpi_listen.


dmesg | grep -i acpi displays the following information:
 BIOS-e820: bdf9 - bdfa8000 (ACPI data)
 BIOS-e820: bdfa8000 - bdfd (ACPI NVS)
ACPI: RSDP 000FB8B0, 0024 (r2 ACPIAM)
ACPI: XSDT BDF90100, 0054 (r1 091409 XSDT2121 20090914 MSFT   97)
ACPI: FACP BDF90290, 00F4 (r3 091409 FACP2121 20090914 MSFT   97)
ACPI Warning (tbfadt-0442): Optional field "Pm2ControlBlock" has zero 
address or length: /1 [20080609]

ACPI: DSDT BDF90450, DAFE (r1  A1150 A1150 INTL 20051117)
ACPI: FACS BDFA8000, 0040
ACPI: APIC BDF90390, 007C (r1 091409 APIC2121 20090914 MSFT   97)
ACPI: MCFG BDF90410, 003C (r1 091409 OEMMCFG  20090914 MSFT   97)
ACPI: OEMB BDFA8040, 0072 (r1 091409 OEMB2121 20090914 MSFT   97)
ACPI: HPET BDF9F450, 0038 (r1 091409 OEMHPET  20090914 MSFT   97)
ACPI: SSDT BDF9F490, 0206 (r1 A M I  POWERNOW1 AMD 1)
ACPI: PM-Timer IO Port: 0x808
ACPI: Local APIC address 0xfee0
ACPI: LAPIC (acpi_id[0x01] lapic_id[0x00] enabled)
ACPI: LAPIC (acpi_id[0x02] lapic_id[0x01] enabled)
ACPI: LAPIC (acpi_id[0x03] lapic_id[0x82] disabled)
ACPI: LAPIC (acpi_id[0x04] lapic_id[0x83] disabled)
ACPI: LAPIC (acpi_id[0x05] lapic_id[0x84] disabled)
ACPI: LAPIC (acpi_id[0x06] lapic_id[0x85] disabled)
ACPI: IOAPIC (id[0x02] address[0xfec0] gsi_base[0])
ACPI: INT_SRC_OVR (bus 0 bus_irq 0 global_irq 2 dfl dfl)
ACPI: INT_SRC_OVR (bus 0 bus_irq 9 global_irq 9 low level)
ACPI: IRQ0 used by override.
ACPI: IRQ2 used by override.
ACPI: IRQ9 used by override.
ACPI: HPET id: 0x8300 base: 0xfed0
Using ACPI (MADT) for SMP configuration information
ACPI: Core revision 20080609
ACPI: bus type pci registered
ACPI: EC: Look up EC in DSDT
ACPI: Interpreter enabled
ACPI: (supports S0 S1 S3 S4 S5)
ACPI: Using IOAPIC for interrupt routing
PCI: MCFG area at e000 reserved in ACPI motherboard resources
ACPI: PCI Root Bridge [PCI0] (:00)
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Routing Table [\_SB_.PCI0._PRT]
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Routing Table [\_SB_.PCI0.P0P1._PRT]
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Routing Table [\_SB_.PCI0.PCE6._PRT]
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Routing Table [\_SB_.PCI0.P0PC._PRT]
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKA] (IRQs *4 7 10 11 12 14 15)
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKB] (IRQs 4 *7 10 11 12 14 15)
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKC] (IRQs 4 7 *10 11 12 14 15)
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKD] (IRQs 4 7 10 *11 12 14 15)
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKE] (IRQs 4 7 10 *11 12 14 15)
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKF] (IRQs 4 7 10 11 12 14 15) *0, disabled.
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKG] (IRQs 4 7 *10 11 12 14 15)
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKH] (IRQs 4 7 10 11 12 14 15) *0, disabled.
ACPI Warning (tbutils-0217): Incorrect checksum in table [OEMB] - EF, 
should be E7 [20080609]

pnp: PnP ACPI init
ACPI: bus type pnp registered
pnp: PnP ACPI: found 16 devices
ACPI: ACPI bus type pnp unregistered
PCI: Using ACPI for IRQ routing
ACPI: RTC can wake from S4
acpiphp: ACPI Hot Plug PCI Controller Driver version: 0.5
ACPI: Power Button (FF) [PWRF]
ACPI: Power Button (CM) [PWRB]
ACPI: processor limited to max C-state 1
processor ACPI0007:00: registered as cooling_device0
ACPI: Processor [P001] (supports 8 throttling states)
processor ACPI0007:01: registered as cooling_device1
ACPI: WMI: Mapper loaded
ACPI: I/O resource piix4_smbus [0xb00-0xb07] conflicts with ACPI region 
SOR1 [0xb00-0xb0f]

ACPI: Device needs an ACPI driver

If the event was received and Linux wouldn't be doing anything with it, 
I could deal with it. But the event doesn't fire at all so I have no 
idea where to look. I'm running F10, kernel version 2.6.27.41-170.2.117.


Does anyone have an idea what the problem is?

Regards, Gijs

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Re: [fedora-virt] how to active XEN on Fedora 12

[Richard W.M. Jones]

On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 02:23:37PM +0100, Dario Lesca wrote:
> Thanks Boris, I use F12 on my Laptop and I want run some VM for test new
> version of distro.

KVM is generally better for laptops because of better power
management.  However ...

> Now I use qemu-kvm but each machine use 30/40% of CPU of host system.

Is KVM enabled?

  $ /sbin/lsmod | grep kvm
  kvm_intel  48184  6 
  kvm   163952  1 kvm_intel

You should see a kvm_* module.  Does your laptop support hardware
virtualization?  Recent hardware has much better support than the
first generation of hardware.  Is it enabled in the laptop BIOS?

> I want use XEN to see if it works better...
[...]
> then I'm looking for some thing to do after this

Basically Fedora 12 doesn't support Xen as a host.  Too bad, but this
is because upstream Xen people didn't get their changes into the Linux
kernel yet.

Your options are to go back to something out of date and unsupported
(Fedora 8 IIRC was the last version of Fedora that could be used as a
Xen host).  Or use KVM -- see above.  Or use RHEL 5 or a derivative
where an older version of Xen is fully supported.

Rich.

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Re: Where is 2.6.32?

[Mike Cloaked]

Paulo Cavalcanti  gmail.com> writes:

> 
>
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-December/msg01138.html--
Paulo Roma CavalcantiLCG - UFRJ
> 

Ahh - thank you - there is usually a good reason for these things...




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Re: Nouveau driver with nvidia dual head

[Kirk Lowery]

On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 1:24 PM, Anthony Messina wrote:

> On Thursday 24 December 2009 05:41:03 Kirk Lowery wrote:
> > Thanks for the response and the great idea! The same thing had occurred
> to
> > me, especially as I had used this technique to install Fedora 10.
> >
> > Only...there isn't any xorg.conf! Neither on the LiveCD nor on the
> >  installed hard disk! At least, it's not in /etc/X11 and locate only
> shows
> >  the man page.
> >
> > So how does nouveau get away without an xorg.conf?
> >
> > Kirk
> >
> I use dual head with nouveau using the following xorg.conf:
>

Well, I tried this conf and it worked -- exactly as without an xorg.conf:
everything about dual head works except for the background stretch.

I guess I'm going to have to get in touch with the LiveCD developers, and
find out who does the nouveau stuff for it; either that or the nouveau IRC.

If I ever solve this, I'll report back here.

Thanks for everyone's responses and for holding my hand on this!

Kirk
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Very BAD preupgrade experience.

[Michael D. Setzer II]

Just had a bad experience with preupgrade.
Had a phenom II x64 machine that had Fedora 11 freshly installed with 
default settengs a few weeks before 12 came out. Finally decided to try the 
upgrade to see how it would work, but could have done a clean install if it 
didn't work.

Preupgraded started find downloading files, but eventually came up with a 
message that it needed more space on /boot. Removed all but latest kernel, 
and memtest and eventually needed to remove the splash graphic to get it to 
work, but fianllly got enough space. So the preupgrade to finish the process 
to reboot. Then when it rebooted, there was a message that it needed more 
space, but there was nothing on the /boot to be removed. I was able to boot 
back to the Fedora 11 kernel, and then tried a last resort option. Took the 
initrd in the upgrade directory, and first gunziped it, and then used lzma on 
it. 
The resuld was about 500M smaller size, and then was able to reboot. This 
then alllowed the preupgrade boot to work, and the system has now 
upgraded. 

It would have been nicer to get a message to either no do a preupgrade, or 
to have a way to resize the systems. Would have tired partimage, but it 
doesn't resize lvm, so that would be another problem. 


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Re: Nouveau driver with nvidia dual head

[Mike Chambers]

On Wed, 2009-12-30 at 08:20 -0500, Kirk Lowery wrote:

> Well, I tried this conf and it worked -- exactly as without an
> xorg.conf: everything about dual head works except for the background
> stretch.
> 
> I guess I'm going to have to get in touch with the LiveCD developers,
> and find out who does the nouveau stuff for it; either that or the
> nouveau IRC.

xorg.conf file isn't used because the system is setup so that everything
(if possible)is detected automatically and setup/used depending on what
it finds (via some type of id that is used on various cards/monitors).
There are the exceptions I guess with dual monitors and certain setups
that normal users probably wouldn't encounter, as well as maybe certain
laptop setups.  I would say those type things might have to have an
xorg.conf file to get into more detail to get those type situations
working as they are suppose to.

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Re: Nouveau driver with nvidia dual head

[Kirk Lowery]

On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 8:48 AM, Mike Chambers  wrote:

> On Wed, 2009-12-30 at 08:20 -0500, Kirk Lowery wrote:
>
> > Well, I tried this conf and it worked -- exactly as without an
> > xorg.conf: everything about dual head works except for the background
> > stretch.
> >
> > I guess I'm going to have to get in touch with the LiveCD developers,
> > and find out who does the nouveau stuff for it; either that or the
> > nouveau IRC.
>
> xorg.conf file isn't used because the system is setup so that everything
> (if possible)is detected automatically and setup/used depending on what
> it finds (via some type of id that is used on various cards/monitors).
> There are the exceptions I guess with dual monitors and certain setups
> that normal users probably wouldn't encounter, as well as maybe certain
> laptop setups.  I would say those type things might have to have an
> xorg.conf file to get into more detail to get those type situations
> working as they are suppose to.
>
>
So...if a file /etc/X11/xorg.conf exists, does nouveau use it? If not, how
does one force its use?

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Re: Very BAD preupgrade experience.

[Robert G. (Doc) Savage]

On Wed, 2009-12-30 at 23:43 +1000, Michael D. Setzer II wrote:
> Just had a bad experience with preupgrade.
> Had a phenom II x64 machine that had Fedora 11 freshly installed with 
> default settengs a few weeks before 12 came out. Finally decided to try the 
> upgrade to see how it would work, but could have done a clean install if it 
> didn't work.
> 
> Preupgraded started find downloading files, but eventually came up with a 
> message that it needed more space on /boot. Removed all but latest kernel, 
> and memtest and eventually needed to remove the splash graphic to get it to 
> work, but fianllly got enough space. So the preupgrade to finish the process 
> to reboot. Then when it rebooted, there was a message that it needed more 
> space, but there was nothing on the /boot to be removed. I was able to boot 
> back to the Fedora 11 kernel, and then tried a last resort option. Took the 
> initrd in the upgrade directory, and first gunziped it, and then used lzma on 
> it. 
> The resuld was about 500M smaller size, and then was able to reboot. This 
> then alllowed the preupgrade boot to work, and the system has now 
> upgraded. 
> 
> It would have been nicer to get a message to either no do a preupgrade, or 
> to have a way to resize the systems. Would have tired partimage, but it 
> doesn't resize lvm, so that would be another problem. 

Michael,

It's too late now, but Michael Chronenworth posted a much simpler
solution to preupgrade's /boot space problem. He moved install.img
from /boot to a thumb drive. When anaconda doesn't find it in /boot, it
asks for its location. Point anaconda to the thumb drive and the upgrade
will proceed without a hitch.

If the partitioning default for fresh installs would increase /boot from
200MB to 300MB in future releases, this problem would gradually
disappear.

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no sound from wrapped macro-media flash player

[Ralph Blach]

Please excuse the previous post in html. Seamonkey did not ask me to 
choose between html and plain text


Anyway, I have installed macro-media flash, and it works fine, except 
there is not sound.

This worked great on when I wrapped on fedora 10.

Any suggestions?

Chip

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Re: Nouveau driver with nvidia dual head

[Mike Chambers]

On Wed, 2009-12-30 at 09:08 -0500, Kirk Lowery wrote:

> 
> So...if a file /etc/X11/xorg.conf exists, does nouveau use it? If not,
> how does one force its use?

the xorg.conf is used if it exists, and what's in it is used to
overwrite what is detected automatically. 

Example, if you want to install nvidia driver, then you have to list the
nvidia driver in the config.  Same as if you have a different type
monitor setup, or mode lines or whatever, just add the parts you want to
change in the .conf file and that should work.  I beleive the system is
setup to look for an xorg.conf file first, use what is in it, then auto
detect everything else.

Someone can correct me if I am off base here.


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Re: Nouveau driver with nvidia dual head

[Kirk Lowery]

On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 9:37 AM, Mike Chambers  wrote:

> On Wed, 2009-12-30 at 09:08 -0500, Kirk Lowery wrote:
>
> >
> > So...if a file /etc/X11/xorg.conf exists, does nouveau use it? If not,
> > how does one force its use?
>
> the xorg.conf is used if it exists, and what's in it is used to
> overwrite what is detected automatically.
>
> Example, if you want to install nvidia driver, then you have to list the
> nvidia driver in the config.  Same as if you have a different type
> monitor setup, or mode lines or whatever, just add the parts you want to
> change in the .conf file and that should work.  I beleive the system is
> setup to look for an xorg.conf file first, use what is in it, then auto
> detect everything else.
>
>
And to generate the conf file in the first place, would you say the best way
to start would be to 'X -configure'  and tweak from there?

Kirk
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Re: fedora

[Suvayu Ali]

Hi Parag,

On Tuesday 29 December 2009 10:10 PM, parag wrote:

hi I want fedora DVD of karmic 9.10
can any body send me or is there any site from where i can request it



I think you have been misinformed that Karmic is a Fedora release. The 
latest Fedora release is Fedora 12 Constantine. Whereas the latest 
Ubuntu release is Karmic 9.04. You can download either of them from the 
following web pages,


* Fedora 12 Constantine - http://www.fedoraproject.org/en/get-fedora
* Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic Koala - http://www.ubuntu.com/GetUbuntu/download

And this Mailing list is for the support of Fedora users. If you use 
Fedora and get stuck, you are welcome to ask here for help. If you use 
Ubuntu and get stuck, try asking to the Ubuntu community, 
http://www.ubuntu.com/support/communitysupport


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F12: KDE and PulseAudio latest update

[Terry Barnaby]

Having just updated my systems I have been trying to use skype with
an USB webcam having its own microphone under KDE.
The skype app only sees the PulseAudio device and cannot select
the USB webcams mic from its options menu. This used to work
some time in the past (F10 rather than F12 ?).
Also the KDE "System Settings/Multimedia" screen only shows the
"PulseAudio Sound Server".

paman shows the USB webcam mic is present.

How to I get Skype to use my USB webcams mic ?

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Re: Where is 2.6.32?

[Mail Lists]

On 12/30/2009 08:07 AM, Mike Cloaked wrote:
> Paulo Cavalcanti  gmail.com> writes:
> 
>>
>>
> https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-December/msg01138.html--
> Paulo Roma CavalcantiLCG - UFRJ
>>
> 
> Ahh - thank you - there is usually a good reason for these things...
> 
> 
> 
> 

  No, thats a really weird reason - the bug was noted in 2.62.32.rc4
...or earlier back in late november .. it was fixed in rc5 and in final
(dated dec 03).

  Don't understand why fedora 2.6.32 should have an old bug ... are we
backporting bugs ? Or is the build in koji not been updated since rc4 ?

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F12 and CUPS (Epson Aculaser C4000)

[Luc MAIGNAN]

Hi,

before F12 i didn't have any problems to configure my Epson Aculaser 
C4000 with CUPS. Unfortunaly, with F12 it doesn't work.
The recommended driver doesn't work (my printer doesn't seem to like PS) 
and when I use my previous PPD file, it says to me that there is no filter.


Anyone has an idea ?

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Blocking auto-update of Kernel

[James Allsopp]

Hi,
Is there an option to stop the F12 auto-update system updating my
kernel. I want to avoid a situation where my kernel gets updated but
there isn't a matching Madwifi rpm in the repositories?

Best regards
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Re: Blocking auto-update of Kernel

[Pikachu_2014]

2009/12/30 James Allsopp 

> Hi,
> Is there an option to stop the F12 auto-update system updating my
> kernel. I want to avoid a situation where my kernel gets updated but
> there isn't a matching Madwifi rpm in the repositories?
>
> Best regards
> James
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Hi,

by default yum keeps the last 3 kernels installed. But you can set yum to
keep all the updated kernels (see the installonly_limit key in
/etc/yum.conf).

Anyway I don't know any third-party repository that still provides madwifi
drivers, since Atheros chipsets are supported by the vanilla kernel for a
moment. Why do you still need madwifi? Which repo providing madwifi for F12
have you?
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Where did my penguins go?

[Robert G. (Doc) Savage]

I modified /etc/grub.conf on my ThinkPad W700 to show the boot-up
process as text. I did this by commenting out "hiddenmenu" and removing
"rhgb" and "quiet" from the kernel spec line. The W700 has trouble with
a tickless kernel in F12 and needs "nohz=off". The first stanza is shown
below.

The W700 has an nVidia display and uses the nouveau driver. Immediately
after the menu screen in F10 and F11 I'd see 4 penguins (quad core) as
the initialization began. It was kinda neat, but in F12 there's just
black space where those penguins would be. Where'd they go? Is this an
artifact of the nouveau driver?


#boot=/dev/sda
default=0
timeout=5
splashimage=(hd0,0)/grub/splash.xpm.gz
#hiddenmenu
#
# Kernel 0
title Fedora 12 (Constantine) [Update 3] (2.6.31.9-174.fc12.x86_64)
root (hd0,0)
kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.31.9-174.fc12.x86_64 ro root=UUID=blah-blah-blah  
LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16 KEYBOARDTYPE=pc KEYTABLE=us nohz=off
initrd /initramfs-2.6.31.9-174.fc12.x86_64.img


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Re: Blocking auto-update of Kernel

[Paulo Cavalcanti]

On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 2:01 PM, James Allsopp  wrote:

> Hi,
> Is there an option to stop the F12 auto-update system updating my
> kernel. I want to avoid a situation where my kernel gets updated but
> there isn't a matching Madwifi rpm in the repositories?
>
>
Adding

exclude=kernel*

to you /etc/yum.conf?


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Re: Where did my penguins go?

[Richard Shaw]

On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Robert G. (Doc) Savage
 wrote:
> I modified /etc/grub.conf on my ThinkPad W700 to show the boot-up process as
> text. I did this by commenting out "hiddenmenu" and removing "rhgb" and
> "quiet" from the kernel spec line. The W700 has trouble with a tickless
> kernel in F12 and needs "nohz=off". The first stanza is shown below.
>
> The W700 has an nVidia display and uses the nouveau driver. Immediately
> after the menu screen in F10 and F11 I'd see 4 penguins (quad core) as the
> initialization began. It was kinda neat, but in F12 there's just black space
> where those penguins would be. Where'd they go? Is this an artifact of the
> nouveau driver?
>
> #boot=/dev/sda
> default=0
> timeout=5
> splashimage=(hd0,0)/grub/splash.xpm.gz
> #hiddenmenu
> #
> # Kernel 0
> title Fedora 12 (Constantine) [Update 3] (2.6.31.9-174.fc12.x86_64)
>     root (hd0,0)
>     kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.31.9-174.fc12.x86_64 ro
> root=UUID=blah-blah-blah  LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16
> KEYBOARDTYPE=pc KEYTABLE=us nohz=off
>     initrd /initramfs-2.6.31.9-174.fc12.x86_64.img

These are two guesses but you may try turning off kernel mode setting
(appends nomodeset to the kernel parameters I believe) and if that
doesn't work try adding a VESA mode, something like "vga=..." I'm not
sure what resolution you want to run but try "vga=ask" the first time
and pick the one you like the most. If you're happy with it change the
parameter to "vga=0x". I found out the hard way that you need to
put "0x" on the front of whichever mode you choose.

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Re: Blocking auto-update of Kernel

[Paulo Cavalcanti]

On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Pikachu_2014 wrote:

>
>
> 2009/12/30 James Allsopp 
>
> Hi,
>> Is there an option to stop the F12 auto-update system updating my
>> kernel. I want to avoid a situation where my kernel gets updated but
>> there isn't a matching Madwifi rpm in the repositories?
>>
>> Best regards
>> James
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> Hi,
>
> by default yum keeps the last 3 kernels installed. But you can set yum to
> keep all the updated kernels (see the installonly_limit key in
> /etc/yum.conf).
>
> Anyway I don't know any third-party repository that still provides madwifi
> drivers, since Atheros chipsets are supported by the vanilla kernel for a
> moment. Why do you still need madwifi? Which repo providing madwifi for F12
> have you?
>
>
Atheros drivers never worked reliably for me.  I lost the connection with
them every 5 min. I am still using ndiswrapper and the windows driver. I
think it depends on the router one is using.

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Re: ]$ Compiz working but I am a little confused ?!?

[William Case]

Hi;

To be honest, my family complains that I am a lot confused.

On Tue, 2009-12-29 at 11:00 -0500, William Case wrote:

> I can add the ModulePath "/usr/lib64/xorg/modules/extensions/nvidia"
> manually.  But as the advice is dated April 2009, is it out of date
> (i.e. for versions earlier than F12)?
> 
I added the ModulePath manually -- now GLX and Compiz work.


> Shouldn't this type of configuration be added by some program or package
> automatically?  I have the "nVidia Display Settings" gui.  Shouldn't
> there be a way to set this configuration through that?
> 

But my main question remains, shouldn't the GLX and extensions info be
somehow added automatically?  I understood that developers where trying
to get rid of the use of xorg.conf and have Xwindows just read the info
directly , so why would something as basic as GLX and extensions require
xorg.conf?

If this is a bug or a request for enhancement, who should I file it
with; Fedora; rpmfusion; Xwindows? 

> I am running a GeForce 9500 GT on a PCIe Bus and a rpmfusion nvidia
> driver as part of a Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU system.
> 


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Re: [fedora-virt] how to active XEN on Fedora 12

[Pasi Kärkkäinen]

On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 12:21:56PM +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 02:23:37PM +0100, Dario Lesca wrote:
> > Thanks Boris, I use F12 on my Laptop and I want run some VM for test new
> > version of distro.
> 
> KVM is generally better for laptops because of better power
> management.  However ...
> 
> > Now I use qemu-kvm but each machine use 30/40% of CPU of host system.
> 
> Is KVM enabled?
> 
>   $ /sbin/lsmod | grep kvm
>   kvm_intel  48184  6 
>   kvm   163952  1 kvm_intel
> 
> You should see a kvm_* module.  Does your laptop support hardware
> virtualization?  Recent hardware has much better support than the
> first generation of hardware.  Is it enabled in the laptop BIOS?
> 
> > I want use XEN to see if it works better...
> [...]
> > then I'm looking for some thing to do after this
> 
> Basically Fedora 12 doesn't support Xen as a host.  Too bad, but this
> is because upstream Xen people didn't get their changes into the Linux
> kernel yet.
> 
> Your options are to go back to something out of date and unsupported
> (Fedora 8 IIRC was the last version of Fedora that could be used as a
> Xen host).  Or use KVM -- see above.  Or use RHEL 5 or a derivative
> where an older version of Xen is fully supported.
> 

Fedora 12 contains Xen hypervisor and tools, only dom0 kernel is
missing. 

There's a repository of xendom0 kernels as rpms, if you're willing to
install 3rdparty/testing rpms, see:

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/XenPvopsDom0

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Re: Name of fedora lists - you're kidding right?

[Chris Tyler]

On Wed, 2009-12-30 at 05:08 -0400, Steven Susbauer wrote:
> On Dec 29, 2009, at 7:48 PM, Tim wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, 2009-12-29 at 11:10 -0800, Aldo Foot wrote:
> >> There was a discussion a while back as to how to describe list. The
> >> result is what you see today. The idea 0052b2a6-0010ist
> >> name/description would clarify expectations to everyone arriving here.
> >> In short it says: "this is what the fedora user list is for."
> > 
> > That may well be, but it's the wrong place to put a *description*.  And
> > certainly not where any newcomer is going to see it.
> 
> It's not all that uncommon.
> 
> I've seen more than a few posts to this list that were also posted to:
> 
> Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions 
> 

Mea culpa, I set this field in 2008.

According to Mailman, that is the "Description" field (described as a
"Terse phrase identifying the list"). The actual *name* of the list is
"fedora-list". The name and description appear side-by-side at
https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo

This change followed a discussion about list quality (among other
things, no one was registered as list-owner at the time, and the
purpose/scope of the list was not clearly defined). We also wanted a
lightweight way to remind people that messages on the lists didn't
necessarily convey the official position of the Project, without doing
something stupid like attaching boilerplate text to the end of each
message.

Suggestions for new text values are welcome -- but you will have to sell
your proposal.

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Re: Very BAD preupgrade experience.

[Marko Vojinovic]

On Wednesday 30 December 2009 13:43:20 Michael D. Setzer II wrote:
> Just had a bad experience with preupgrade.
[snip]
> Preupgraded started find downloading files, but eventually came up with a
> message that it needed more space on /boot.
[snip]
> It would have been nicer to get a message to either no do a preupgrade, or
> to have a way to resize the systems. Would have tired partimage, but it
> doesn't resize lvm, so that would be another problem.

If you are using LVM, I would expect resizing partitions to be easy and 
painless, right? LVM was actually introduced precisely for this purpose, 
AFAIK.

Once preupgrade complained it needs more space for /boot, I would use LVM 
tools to expand /boot accordingly, then start again. That said, please note 
that I never upgrade Fedora (always reformat and do a clean install), and that 
I don't use LVM (always manually create a custom bare-bones partition layout 
to suit my needs). IOW, I may not be the proper person to give the above 
advice. ;-)

HTH, :-)
Marko

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Re: Name of fedora lists - you're kidding right?

[Todd Zullinger]

Chris Tyler wrote:
> Suggestions for new text values are welcome -- but you will have to
> sell your proposal.

IMO, the current description should be changed, but I'd prefer to not
see a lengthy debate on the list about it.  It just doesn't seem
important enough nor terribly on-topic.  With over 6,500 subscribers
and a high number of messages per day, keeping the list focused on
helping folks better use Fedora is more important that debating the
minutiae of list settings, which has a very high potential for
bikeshedding. :)

I believe the original message should have been directed to the list
owner address, as with all other such "administrivia" messages.  But
that's just my opinion.

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Re: small gripe -- for Fedora, or KDE, or ....?

[BeartoothHOS]

On Tue, 29 Dec 2009 10:37:02 -0600, Rex Dieter wrote:

> BeartoothHOS wrote:
> 
> 
>> But for as long as I can remember, there have been two kinds of entries
>> in the Main menu: ones that will tell you what they are or do if you
>> hover the cursor over them -- and ones that belong to KDE.
>> 
>> Why the lacuna? Do KDE developers, like Apple developers, presume that
>> *everyone* already knows?
> 
> You *ass*ume much here, pointing fingers and blame.

Puns are pointless here -- especially old cold dried-up ones.

You are reading an interpretation into my words which had not 
occurred to me, and which I disavow. 

My whole point was not to assign blame -- for all I know, 
some people may *like* the way things are, and consider praise due.

I *asked* several questions (not just the one you quote out of 
context), all leading to the same basic thing which I don't know and want 
to : where best to raise the issue. 

That was and is a real question.

*Why* do I get so much more info about Gnome apps than KDE ones, 
*who* could change that, and *where* can I make the request and expect it 
to be on topic?

You might have noted that I went out of my way to praise certain 
KDE apps, and to explain that I would like to find others, if they exist, 
which I would like as well.
 
> It goes both ways.  For example, Gnome doesn't support the GenericName
> part of the desktop-spec, whereas KDE in general doesn't offer Comment
> keys.

I have no idea what that jargon refers to. Why are you throwing 
it at me? What does it have to do with the issue?

> Sad part is that GenericName isn't an optional part of the spec.

Btw, it is true that I happen to be one of those who despise and 
detest the Apple interface as much as I do the M$ one -- if that 
discomfits you, so be it -- but the fact is altogether beside the point 
of my post. Apple, and the sneers of its admirers against the 
uninitiated, was a mere example, as was Stefan George. Are you going to 
take umbrage at my mention of him??

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Re: Wine (?) spoiling F12 boot : MITIGATED

[BeartoothHOS]

On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 12:12:10 -0500, Bill Davidsen wrote:
[...] 
> What does System->admin->display say in the display tab? I find that I
> need to manually set that sometimes. I think I said
> system->config->display the first time, had the wrong WM in front of me.

On the first tab (Settings), it tells me I have a setting of 
1280x1024 (offering only smaller others), and millions of colors; on the 
second (Hardware), it acknowledges what I think I told it -- that I have 
an LCD panel 1680x1050. (Iirc, it had supposed I had a CRT; at least one 
machine did.)

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Re: RAID 1 Mismatches

[Rick Wagner]

On Tuesday 29 December 2009 10:17:32 pm Raman Gupta wrote:
> On 12/29/2009 03:18 PM, Rick Wagner wrote:
> > On Tuesday 29 December 2009 06:27:27 am Michael Cronenworth wrote:
> > Other replies also imply that this is common if you have swap or mmaped
> > files on the MD.  swap is on separate partitions, but I suppose the
> > system or service may have some mmaped files (this is the root
> > partition).
> 
> I believe this will list the open memory-mapped files on your root
> partition:
> 
> lsof -d mem -a +f -- /
> 
> Out of the resulting list you can probably eliminate libraries that
> are being read but not written to. If /var is on your root filesystem,
> then there will probably be a bunch of mmap'ed stuff in the various
> directories inside /var.
> 
> Cheers,
> Raman
> 

Indeed, /var is on this volume, and lsof shows quite a number of mmaped files 
in /var/cache and /var/tmp.  Thank you all for your help on this, I will relax 
now.

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A very good PCI Wireless card for Fedora/Linux

[Jim]

Sabrent 802.11N PCI-802N , two antennas,

When I purchased this card it drove me crazy determining which Linux 
driver that was for this card.


RT2860sta driver, I have it in a bedroom in a PC that couldn't get a 
100% signal to it from a Linksys router, but with this card it gave me a 
100% signal. And it doesn't shut down.


Copy and Paste the model above into Google search and find locations 
that sell it.


I don't have any connections to anyone that make or sell it, I just want 
to pass on to the info to Fedora/Linux users that have need of a PCI 
wireless card.


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Re: RAID 1 Mismatches

[Michael Cronenworth]

Eero Tamminen on 12/30/2009 04:09 AM wrote:

Indeed, /var is on this volume, and lsof shows quite a number of mmaped files
in /var/cache and /var/tmp.  Thank you all for your help on this, I will relax
now.


Would you feel up to creating a bug against mdadm (the owner of 
99-raid-check) and ask for a better description to the warning? Rough 
example:" "WARNING: mismatch_cnt not 0 on /dev/$dev, not harmful, but 
repaired with 'echo repair > /sys/block/md#/md/sync_action'"


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Re: Very BAD preupgrade experience.

[Michael D. Setzer II]

On 30 Dec 2009 at 18:14, Marko Vojinovic wrote:

From:   Marko Vojinovic 
Send reply to:  vma...@ipb.ac.rs
To: fedora-list@redhat.com
Subject:Re: Very BAD preupgrade experience.
Date sent:  Wed, 30 Dec 2009 18:14:07 +
Copies to:  "Michael D. Setzer II" 

> On Wednesday 30 December 2009 13:43:20 Michael D. Setzer II wrote:
> > Just had a bad experience with preupgrade.
> [snip]
> > Preupgraded started find downloading files, but eventually came up with a
> > message that it needed more space on /boot.
> [snip]
> > It would have been nicer to get a message to either no do a preupgrade, or
> > to have a way to resize the systems. Would have tired partimage, but it
> > doesn't resize lvm, so that would be another problem.
> 
> If you are using LVM, I would expect resizing partitions to be easy and 
> painless, right? LVM was actually introduced precisely for this purpose, 
> AFAIK.
> 

Problem is that the /boot is a separate regular partition. /dev/sda1
The root and swap partitions are LVM in the /dev/sda2.

The LVM options don't seem to help in this setup, it would require reducing 
the size of the LVM inside the physical partition, and then resizing the 
physical parititon, and then moving the physical partition. Might be possible, 
but I don't  know all the commands.


> Once preupgrade complained it needs more space for /boot, I would use LVM 
> tools to expand /boot accordingly, then start again. That said, please note 
> that I never upgrade Fedora (always reformat and do a clean install), and 
> that 
> I don't use LVM (always manually create a custom bare-bones partition layout 
> to suit my needs). IOW, I may not be the proper person to give the above 
> advice. ;-)

I've thought of not using LVM, since I don't see needing the on the fly options 
it allows for my setup, but it is the default setup. If they where regular 
paritions, using partedmagic  or other program would make it easy to move 
the partitions. 

Thanks for the info.


> 
> HTH, :-)
> Marko
> 


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Re: small gripe -- for Fedora, or KDE, or ....?

[Marko Vojinovic]

On Wednesday 30 December 2009 18:26:53 BeartoothHOS wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Dec 2009 10:37:02 -0600, Rex Dieter wrote:
> > It goes both ways.  For example, Gnome doesn't support the GenericName
> > part of the desktop-spec, whereas KDE in general doesn't offer Comment
> > keys.
> 
>   I have no idea what that jargon refers to. Why are you throwing
> it at me? What does it have to do with the issue?

Not that I am an expert, but I guess the "GenericName" and "Comment" are fields 
inside the app.desktop files that are used to provide the information such as 
description when you hover the pointer in the menu. There is a standardized 
specification for these, which both KDE and Gnome (and other DE's) should 
follow. So if I understood what Rex said, KDE fills in the description in the 
GenericName field, while Gnome prefers the Comment field.

And all would be well if both KDE and Gnome would read the data from *both* 
fields and then decide which one to show to the user. But KDE disregards the 
Comment field, while Gnome disregards the GenericName field. If the other one 
happens to be empty, you have no description when you hover the pointer.

> > Sad part is that GenericName isn't an optional part of the spec.

Now, I understood this part as follows. The specification standard says that 
the Comment field is optional and may be left out (or left blank). So KDE does 
not do much wrong when disregarding this field. However GenericName field 
should 
be obligatory (per spec.) and Gnome *does* do wrong when it disregards it.

So essentially, this is a bug in Gnome, and you should report it against 
Gnome. What is sad is the fact that Gnome does not follow the agreed spec.
 
> Btw, it is true that I happen to be one of those who despise and
> detest the Apple interface

Finally, all this has absolutely nothing to do with Apple, AFAICS.

HTH, :-)
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Re: small gripe -- for Fedora, or KDE, or ....?

[Rex Dieter]

BeartoothHOS wrote:

> On Tue, 29 Dec 2009 10:37:02 -0600, Rex Dieter wrote:
> 
>> BeartoothHOS wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> But for as long as I can remember, there have been two kinds of entries
>>> in the Main menu: ones that will tell you what they are or do if you
>>> hover the cursor over them -- and ones that belong to KDE.
>>> 
>>> Why the lacuna? Do KDE developers, like Apple developers, presume that
>>> *everyone* already knows?
>> 
>> You *ass*ume much here, pointing fingers and blame.
> 
> Puns are pointless here -- especially old cold dried-up ones.
> 
> You are reading an interpretation into my words which had not
> occurred to me, and which I disavow.

"Do KDE developers, like Apple developers, presume 
that everyone already knows? "

Sounds like a blanket statement about intentions to me.  Stick to facts 
then, please, if you don't want a reaction.

> *Why* do I get so much more info about Gnome apps than KDE ones,
> *who* could change that, and *where* can I make the request and expect it
> to be on topic?

OK, simply put:  on gnome you get more info about gnome apps.  On kde, you 
get more info about kde apps.

>> It goes both ways.  For example, Gnome doesn't support the GenericName
>> part of the desktop-spec, whereas KDE in general doesn't offer Comment
>> keys.
> 
> I have no idea what that jargon refers to. Why are you throwing
> it at me? What does it have to do with the issue?

Gnome shows Comment= keys on hover, KDE shows GenericName entries in the 
menus.  Gnome ignores and doesn't use GenericName anywhere.  KDE doesn't use 
Commment= keys (for the most part).
 
Does that help?

Now, imo, KDE at least embraces the desktop-spec here, and I'll take any 
bugs wrt missing Comment= keys in .desktop files, and help fix it.  I've 
been virtually begging fedora/gnome developers to do the same for supporting 
GenericName= keys for quite awhile, with little success to date.


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Re: small gripe -- for Fedora, or KDE, or ....?

[Jud Craft]

> *Why* do I get so much more info about Gnome apps than KDE ones,
> *who* could change that, and *where* can I make the request and expect it
> to be on topic?
>

All this technical mumbo-jumbo aside.  Basically, it's because GNOME
treats the KDE apps unfairly.

Yes, it's lame.  Yes, it's a known problem in GNOME, and they're
working (talking about working?) on it.

No, there's nothing you can do - aside from helping - that will make
anyone move faster to solve it.

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Re: Very BAD preupgrade experience.

[Timothy Murphy]

Robert G. (Doc) Savage wrote:

> It's too late now, but Michael Chronenworth posted a much simpler
> solution to preupgrade's /boot space problem. He moved install.img
> from /boot to a thumb drive. When anaconda doesn't find it in /boot, it
> asks for its location. Point anaconda to the thumb drive and the upgrade
> will proceed without a hitch.

I assumed install.img had to be in /boot , for some reason.
If it doesn't have to be there, it seems a crazy decision
to try to install a file in a partition that manifestly won't hold it
in many, if not most, cases.

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i386 yum update download stops: updates/filelists_db

[Rich Emberson]

Trying to do a
yum makecache
on my fedora 12 i386 machine and it starts downloading updates/filelists_db
and the download rate gets slower and slower, from 100s of KBs/second to KBs
to 100s of B/s to Bytes/seccond
to 0 B/s - basically stopping.
I can Control-C to restart but the same happens again. After a couple of
Control-C's it switches
mirrors but it still happens.

Whats up?

Thanks.

Richard
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Re: GRUB2?

[Tom H]

>> I have forgotten whether the previous version of Ubuntu had an inittab
>> but the current one, 9.10, does not. You can nonetheless modify the
>> init levels at which init scripts are run (or not) and pass an init
>> level as a kernel parameter in grub or through "init X".

> Used to be able to, the latest ubuntu has gone almost totally upstart.
> You try to poke around in places like /etc/rc2.d and find they don't exist
> any more. That eventually led me to the gdm script in the new upstart
> directory (who's name I have already forgotten), and reading that
> script led me to the text parameter on the kernel boot line.

You still can.

The upstart directory of 9.10 is /etc/init (whereas it was
/etc/event.d in 9.04 as it is in Fedora).

To make an upstart job start at runlevels X and Y, you have to edit
the "start" line:
"start on runlevel [XY]"

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A great LAUGH for all Fedora users today

[Jim]

I was at the Super Walmart today in Indianapolis In., to check out the 
new Mini-laptops w/ MS7 and wanted to see how it look, all the laptops 
on display was asking for a PASSWOED, Ask a Walmart employee what was 
the password to check them out, she said some customer had changed all 
the passwords and they couldn't into them.

I just had to say to her , Thank God for Linux and Super User password.
For

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Re: GRUB2?

[Mail Lists]

On 12/30/2009 04:43 PM, Tom H wrote:

> To make an upstart job start at runlevels X and Y, you have to edit
> the "start" line:
> "start on runlevel [XY]"
> 

Except in older versions (like 0.3 and 0.6 too) is there a way to
specify a dependency other than using a different run level ?

If you want for example to start your sendmail milters before you
startsendmail - how do you do that in upstart (pre 1.0) ?

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Re: Name of fedora lists - you're kidding right?

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Wed, 2009-12-30 at 13:20 -0500, Todd Zullinger wrote:
> IMO, the current description should be changed, but I'd prefer to not
> see a lengthy debate on the list about it. 

My 2c: The Fedora users list

poc

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Re: Name of fedora lists - you're kidding right?

[Mail Lists]

On 12/30/2009 12:25 PM, Chris Tyler wrote:

> Suggestions for new text values are welcome -- but you will have to sell
> your proposal.
> 
> -Chris
> 


 I'd suggest something like: "Fedora Users"

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Re: Name of fedora lists - you're kidding right?

[Sam Sharpe]

2009/12/30 Patrick O'Callaghan :
> On Wed, 2009-12-30 at 13:20 -0500, Todd Zullinger wrote:
>> IMO, the current description should be changed, but I'd prefer to not
>> see a lengthy debate on the list about it.
>
> My 2c: The Fedora users list

My 2p

"Fedora Users" 

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Re: Where did my penguins go?

[g]

Richard Shaw wrote:

> try adding a VESA mode, something like "vga=..." I'm not
> sure what resolution you want to run but try "vga=ask" the first time
> and pick the one you like the most. If you're happy with it change the
> parameter to "vga=0x". I found out the hard way that you need to
> put "0x" on the front of whichever mode you choose.

either a hex value or a decimal value may be passed.

"0x" is used if you pass a hex value, else value passed will be taken as
being a decimal value.


some basic resolution codes, in decimal, are:

colors  bits  640x480  800×600  1024×768  1152×864 1280×1024  1600×1200
   2568   vga=769  vga=771   vga=773   vga=353   vga=775vga=796
  32K0vga=784  vga=787   vga=790   vga=354   vga=793vga=797
  65K0   16   vga=785  vga=788   vga=791   vga=355   vga=794vga=798
  16M7   24   vga=786  vga=789   vga=792   vga=795   vga=799


this page has charts for passing hex values with a few decimal thrown in;

   http://wiki.antlinux.com/pmwiki.php?n=HowTos.VgaModes


if you have "kernel source package" installed, you should find info in;

  /usr/src/linux/Documentation/fb/vesafb.txt


hth.

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Re: Name of fedora lists - you're kidding right?

[Mail Lists]

On 12/30/2009 06:27 PM, Mail Lists wrote:
> 
>  I'd suggest something like: "Fedora Users"
> 


  Or perhaps:   "Fedora General"

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Re: Name of fedora lists - you're kidding right?

[Ed Greshko]

Sam Sharpe wrote:
> 2009/12/30 Patrick O'Callaghan :
>   
>> On Wed, 2009-12-30 at 13:20 -0500, Todd Zullinger wrote:
>> 
>>> IMO, the current description should be changed, but I'd prefer to not
>>> see a lengthy debate on the list about it.
>>>   
>> My 2c: The Fedora users list
>> 
>
> My 2p
>
> "Fedora Users" 
>
>   
I'm not a Fedora User.  I only keep a F12 virtual machine to investigate
questions that interest me.  Does that disqualify me from posting?  :-)

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Re: Name of fedora lists - you're kidding right?

[Ed Greshko]

Mail Lists wrote:
> On 12/30/2009 06:27 PM, Mail Lists wrote:
>   
>>  I'd suggest something like: "Fedora Users"
>>
>> 
>
>
>   Or perhaps:   "Fedora General"
>
>   
Too non-specific .  :-)

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Re: GRUB2?

[Tom H]

>> To make an upstart job start at runlevels X and Y, you have to edit
>> the "start" line:
>> "start on runlevel [XY]"

> Except in older versions (like 0.3 and 0.6 too) is there a way to
> specify a dependency other than using a different run level ?

> If you want for example to start your sendmail milters before you
> startsendmail - how do you do that in upstart (pre 1.0) ?

I have not had to write a dependency-type upstart job but I assume
that "start on started sendmail" should do the trick. My one
reservation is that sendmail is an init script and not an upstart job
so I wonder whether upstart will consider it an event. It must,
hopefully; I have not had tried (or previously even considered trying)
to test such an interaction.

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Re: i386 yum update download stops: updates/filelists_db

[Rick Stevens]

On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 1:28 PM, Rich Emberson wrote:

> Trying to do a
> yum makecache
> on my fedora 12 i386 machine and it starts downloading updates/filelists_db
> and the download rate gets slower and slower, from 100s of KBs/second to
> KBs to 100s of B/s to Bytes/seccond
> to 0 B/s - basically stopping.
> I can Control-C to restart but the same happens again. After a couple of
> Control-C's it switches
> mirrors but it still happens.
>
> Whats up?
>

Just for giggles, try turning off iptables ("#service iptables stop").
There's some rule in the default iptables that
causes FTP downloads to crawl after a while. It's bitten me before doing FTP
software fetches and it's possible
that one or more of the repos you have uses FTP.

I've never had the time to figure out which iptables rule is causing the
issue, I just disable iptables, fetch stuff
and turn iptables back on.  Perhaps when I'm not so busy...
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Kde problems

[david walcroft]

I'm using fc12-86_64,my problem is when ever I logout/login or 
shut-down/reboot I lose kde,it will not start,only a blue screen.
and no desktop.Sometimes I get the error 'cannot access 
/usr/bin/autorun: no such file or directory' so I cp -r /usr/bin/autorun 
from my backup and logout/login with no result.
An install a while ago my sys. booted into a default desktop not my 
usual desktop,I found out that kde was not reading my ~/.kde file,I cp 
-r a copy from ~.kde.old ~.kde but on logging out/in the ~.kde file was 
over written.The only solution I've had is to reinstall the system.
I've got no idea how to troubleshoot these problems.Help would be 
appreciated.


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Re: i386 yum update download stops: updates/filelists_db

[Patrick Bartek]

--- On Wed, 12/30/09, Rich Emberson  wrote:

> Trying to do a 
> yum makecache
> on my fedora 12 i386 machine and it starts downloading
> updates/filelists_db
> and the download rate gets slower and slower, from 100s of
> KBs/second to KBs to 100s of B/s to Bytes/seccond
> 
> to 0 B/s - basically stopping.
> I can Control-C to restart but the same happens again.
> After a couple of Control-C's it switches
> mirrors but it still happens.
> 
> Whats up?

I got the same behavior with just a normal yum update on my 64-bit system. 
Solved it with: yum install yum-plugin-fastestmirror.  Also check to see if you 
have yum-presto installed, too.

This link will help.

   http://www.mjmwired.net/resources/mjm-fedora-f12.html#yum


B

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Re: Preupgrade to F11 worked but... [can't get httpd to start]

[Steve Blackwell]

On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 05:55:59 -0800 (PST)
TNWestTex  wrote:

> 
> 
> 
> Steve Blackwell wrote:
> > 
> > On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 11:18:59 -0800 (PST)
> > TNWestTex  wrote:
> > 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Steve Blackwell wrote:
> >> > 
> >> > I ran preupgrade to go from F10 to F11 and I was pleasantly
> >> > surprised (because F9->F10 was a mess) that it worked almost
> >> > flawlessly. 
> >> > 
> >> > When I booted into F11 for the first time, I got a warning about
> >> > a ssl library not being found. To cut a long story short, I have
> >> > found that there are 62 packages that did not get updated from
> >> > F10, one of them being httpd. I considered just deleting the
> >> > offending rpm and reinstalling but there are so many
> >> > dependencies.
> >> > 
> >> > Is this a common problem and how have others overcome it.
> >> > 
> >> 
> >> yum whatprovides libname
> >> 
> >> is useful.  
> > Thanks for the suggestions but they didn't help. 
> > 
> > I noticed that nearly all the fc10 packages that were left around
> > were -devel or -debug so I just deleted them. 
> > 
> > There were a couple that had no dependencies so I just yum removed
> > and then yum installed them.
> > 
> > I'm still having a problem with httpd. I yum removed it and its 10
> > dependencies and then re-installed them all (apart from bugzilla
> > which I don't need) but when I try to restart the service I get
> > this error:
> > 
> > # run_init service httpd restart
> > Authenticating steve.
> > Password: 
> > Stopping httpd:[FAILED]
> > Starting httpd: httpd: Syntax error on line 196
> > of /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf: Cannot
> > load /etc/httpd/modules/mod_file_cache.so into
> > server: /etc/httpd/modules/mod_file_cache.so: cannot open shared
> > object file: No such file or directory [FAILED]
> > 
> > Line 196 of /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf says:
> > LoadModule file_cache_module modules/mod_file_cache.so
> > 
> > yum whatprovides file_cache_modules says no matches
> > 
> > 
> 
> I don't use apache but for yum try 
> 
> yum whatprovides /etc/httpd/modules/mod_file_cache.so
> 
> Robert McBroom
> 
That just returns "No Matches found"

In the end I just commented out the 2 offending lines:

#LoadModule file_cache_module modules/mod_file_cache.so
#LoadModule mem_cache_module modules/mod_mem_cache.so

and httpd start OK now. I don't know what those two lines do but I
haven't noticed any difference yet.

Ah! I did a bit of digging and found this
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=505048.
although the directives are still in my .rpmnew file.

Steve.

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Re: Name of fedora lists - you're kidding right?

[William Case]

Hi;

On Wed, 2009-12-30 at 22:51 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Wed, 2009-12-30 at 13:20 -0500, Todd Zullinger wrote:
> > IMO, the current description should be changed, but I'd prefer to not
> > see a lengthy debate on the list about it. 
> 
> My 2c: The Fedora users list
> 

Geez Patrick, would I still be able to get community assistance,
encouragement and advice for using Fedora?  I would particularly miss
the encouragement.

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Re: Name of fedora lists - you're kidding right?

[Mail Llists]

On 12/30/2009 07:36 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> Mail Lists wrote:
>> On 12/30/2009 06:27 PM, Mail Lists wrote:
>>   
>>>  I'd suggest something like: "Fedora Users"
>>>
>>> 
>>
>>
>>   Or perhaps:   "Fedora General"
>>
>>   
> Too non-specific .  :-)
> 
> 

 Ok how about :  "Fedora Specifically General"

  :-)

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Re: Where did my penguins go?

[Bill Davidsen]

g wrote:

Richard Shaw wrote:


try adding a VESA mode, something like "vga=..." I'm not
sure what resolution you want to run but try "vga=ask" the first time
and pick the one you like the most. If you're happy with it change the
parameter to "vga=0x". I found out the hard way that you need to
put "0x" on the front of whichever mode you choose.


either a hex value or a decimal value may be passed.

"0x" is used if you pass a hex value, else value passed will be taken as
being a decimal value.

It's not *quite* that simple, that the way it works on the command line passed 
to the kernel. However, if you use VGA=ask, those numbers are hex and 0x is 
neither needed nor accepted.Ste 300


some basic resolution codes, in decimal, are:

colors  bits  640x480  800×600  1024×768  1152×864 1280×1024  1600×1200
   2568   vga=769  vga=771   vga=773   vga=353   vga=775vga=796
  32K0vga=784  vga=787   vga=790   vga=354   vga=793vga=797
  65K0   16   vga=785  vga=788   vga=791   vga=355   vga=794vga=798
  16M7   24   vga=786  vga=789   vga=792   vga=795   vga=799


this page has charts for passing hex values with a few decimal thrown in;

   http://wiki.antlinux.com/pmwiki.php?n=HowTos.VgaModes


if you have "kernel source package" installed, you should find info in;

  /usr/src/linux/Documentation/fb/vesafb.txt

In addition, with recent kernels, you have to start doing anything interesting 
with "nomodeset" before you can use vga= or it's useful friends video= and xdriver=


Example of everything all at once, use vesa and see penguins:
  nomodeset vga=0x318 video=vesafb xdriver=vesa

This allows you to use alternate framebuffer and X drivers, and trade the high 
performance and low reliability of some modern kernel drivers for the slow 
stability of vesa.


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Re: A great LAUGH for all Fedora users today

[Bill Davidsen]

Jim wrote:
I was at the Super Walmart today in Indianapolis In., to check out the 
new Mini-laptops w/ MS7 and wanted to see how it look, all the laptops 
on display was asking for a PASSWOED, Ask a Walmart employee what was 
the password to check them out, she said some customer had changed all 
the passwords and they couldn't into them.

I just had to say to her , Thank God for Linux and Super User password.

Having someone change the Linux root password would be better how? I guess I 
don't know enough about Win7 to know why this is funny.


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Re: Where is 2.6.32?

[Bill Davidsen]

Konstantin Svist wrote:

How come Fedora is still on 2.6.31? Is .32 held back on purpose or are
there issues merging it?
It took less than a week for .31.9 to be pushed through... but I don't
see .32 in updates-testing and it's been almost a whole month...

My personal experience with building 2.6.32.recent is that if they enhance the 
video drivers any more we will be running text only. Let the developers have the 
holiday off, and hopefully they will have run 2.6.32 on their laptops and be 
motivated to work on it.


A new year is coming.

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Re: -ck with Fedora?

[Bill Davidsen]

Dave Stevens wrote:

Does anyone have experience to report in using the new -ck kernel patches?

Have not tried them against Fedora kernel, the kernel.org kernel seemed stable. 
Wasn't that exciting, so I just booted and ran for an hour or so.


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Re: Wine (?) spoiling F12 boot : MITIGATED

[Bill Davidsen]

BeartoothHOS wrote:

On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 12:12:10 -0500, Bill Davidsen wrote:
	[...] 

What does System->admin->display say in the display tab? I find that I
need to manually set that sometimes. I think I said
system->config->display the first time, had the wrong WM in front of me.


	On the first tab (Settings), it tells me I have a setting of 
1280x1024 (offering only smaller others), and millions of colors; on the 
second (Hardware), it acknowledges what I think I told it -- that I have 
an LCD panel 1680x1050. (Iirc, it had supposed I had a CRT; at least one 
machine did.)


What I have been doing is use the admin->display to get the display type right, 
check the video card (never had to change it), and then I could set size in the 
system->prefderences->hardware->screenResolution. If that sequence doesn't show 
the large sizes I have no other tricks (and haven't needed them to date).


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Re: Name of fedora lists - you're kidding right?

[Antonio Olivares]

> I'm not a Fedora User.  I only keep a F12 virtual
> machine to investigate
> questions that interest me.  Does that disqualify me
> from posting?  :-)
> 
> -- 

No sir!  You shall not be disqualified! :)  You are subscribed to the list and 
therefore you should be allowed to post :)

And by the way, even if you run Fedora virtually, you are still running Fedora 
:)

Happy New Year!  

Regards,

Antonio 


  

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Re: A great LAUGH for all Fedora users today

[Suvayu Ali]

On Wednesday 30 December 2009 05:58 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote:

Jim wrote:

I was at the Super Walmart today in Indianapolis In., to check out the
new Mini-laptops w/ MS7 and wanted to see how it look, all the laptops
on display was asking for a PASSWOED, Ask a Walmart employee what was
the password to check them out, she said some customer had changed all
the passwords and they couldn't into them.
I just had to say to her , Thank God for Linux and Super User password.


Having someone change the Linux root password would be better how? I
guess I don't know enough about Win7 to know why this is funny.



I think he means the root password would prevent a user from doing 
anything drastic. Changing the password of a regular user could easily 
solved by root. Whereas in Windows most of the time a regular user logs 
in with admin privileges.


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Re: Where did my penguins go?

[Sam Varshavchik]

g writes:


Richard Shaw wrote:


try adding a VESA mode, something like "vga=..." I'm not
sure what resolution you want to run but try "vga=ask" the first time
and pick the one you like the most. If you're happy with it change the
parameter to "vga=0x". I found out the hard way that you need to
put "0x" on the front of whichever mode you choose.


either a hex value or a decimal value may be passed.

"0x" is used if you pass a hex value, else value passed will be taken as
being a decimal value.


some basic resolution codes, in decimal, are:

colors  bits  640x480  800×600  1024×768  1152×864 1280×1024  1600×1200
   2568   vga=769  vga=771   vga=773   vga=353   vga=775vga=796
  32K0vga=784  vga=787   vga=790   vga=354   vga=793vga=797
  65K0   16   vga=785  vga=788   vga=791   vga=355   vga=794vga=798
  16M7   24   vga=786  vga=789   vga=792   vga=795   vga=799


Maybe, maybe not. I have several laptops here. Each one produces a different 
list of possible VGA modes.


Your actual VGA modes depend solely on your video BIOS. I looked, and I was 
unable to find any way to obtain a list of supported video modes from 
userspace. The boot time prompt is the only time yu see them.




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Re: Name of fedora lists - you're kidding right?

[Tony Nelson]

On 09-12-30 18:27:53, Mail Lists wrote:
> On 12/30/2009 12:25 PM, Chris Tyler wrote:
> 
> > Suggestions for new text values are welcome -- but you will have to
> > sell your proposal.

>  I'd suggest something like: "Fedora Users"

Too terse to guide new signups away from the developers' list.  The 
current"name" is wordy and wraps too often.

"Community assistance for using Fedora."

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Re: Name of fedora lists - you're kidding right?

[William Case]

Hi;

On Wed, 2009-12-30 at 21:54 -0500, Tony Nelson wrote:
> On 09-12-30 18:27:53, Mail Lists wrote:
> > On 12/30/2009 12:25 PM, Chris Tyler wrote:
> > 
> > > Suggestions for new text values are welcome -- but you will have to
> > > sell your proposal.
> 
> >  I'd suggest something like: "Fedora Users"
> 
> Too terse to guide new signups away from the developers' list.  The 
> current"name" is wordy and wraps too often.
> 
> "Community assistance for using Fedora."

Then change the name of the developers' list.

"Only for developers working on Fedora"

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Re: Where is 2.6.32?

[john wendel]

On 12/30/2009 06:08 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote:

Konstantin Svist wrote:

How come Fedora is still on 2.6.31? Is .32 held back on purpose or are
there issues merging it?
It took less than a week for .31.9 to be pushed through... but I don't
see .32 in updates-testing and it's been almost a whole month...


My personal experience with building 2.6.32.recent is that if they
enhance the video drivers any more we will be running text only. Let the
developers have the holiday off, and hopefully they will have run 2.6.32
on their laptops and be motivated to work on it.

A new year is coming.



F11 with kernel.org 2.6.32.2 + Nvidia driver working fine here. You 
really should learn to build a kernel from sources, once you get the 
config file done, the rest is easy.


Regards,

John

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skype issues on Fedora 11

[Kevin Kempter]

Hi All;


I have a client that uses skype for group IM sessions when we do production 
release calls. I've installed Skype on my Fedora 11 box but when I click on 
the 'join public chat' link the group sends out (running firefox) I get this:

"Firefox doesn't know how to open this address, because the protocol (skype) 
isn't associated with any program."

I tried following the directions found here:

http://share.skype.com/sites/linux/2006/08/making_skype_links_work.html

but it still didn't work.

Thoughts?


Thanks in advance

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Re: A great LAUGH for all Fedora users today

[Frank Cox]

On Wed, 2009-12-30 at 20:58 -0500, Bill Davidsen wrote:
> Having someone change the Linux root password would be better how?

Boot to runlevel 1 and change it back.
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The Counter-Fedora People At #fedora

[Randy Yates]

Why do the following people, time after time, insist on banning me for
asking fedora questions on #fedora?

  VileGent
  Khaytsus (or however you speel his name)
  [R]

They are absolute pricks. If the Fedora community wants to improve
their position with the public, I suggest that they start monitoring
#fedora for the utterly vehement, venomous, vicious attitudes these
regulars have there and do a little pruning of operator priviledges.

I have been a Fedora user for 4 years (since FC3). I have (for
better or worse) provided documentation on some things that have
helped me:

  http://galois.digitalsignallabs.com/notes.htm

I have encouraged my friends to switch to linux/fedora. I'm advising
others. I've filed several bug reports. I'M ON-BOARD WITH FEDORA!

So if you want to keep folks like me, and encourage others, please,
PLEASE - clean up the #fedora channel from the egomaniac, self-centered,
self-serving folks that spoil it for so many others.

Have a good New Year!
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Re: The Counter-Fedora People At #fedora

[Ed Greshko]

Randy Yates wrote:
> Why do the following people, time after time, insist on banning me for
> asking fedora questions on #fedora?
>
>   VileGent
>   Khaytsus (or however you speel his name)
>   [R]
>
> They are absolute pricks. If the Fedora community wants to improve
> their position with the public, I suggest that they start monitoring
> #fedora for the utterly vehement, venomous, vicious attitudes these
> regulars have there and do a little pruning of operator priviledges.
>
> I have been a Fedora user for 4 years (since FC3). I have (for
> better or worse) provided documentation on some things that have
> helped me:
>
>   http://galois.digitalsignallabs.com/notes.htm
>
> I have encouraged my friends to switch to linux/fedora. I'm advising
> others. I've filed several bug reports. I'M ON-BOARD WITH FEDORA!
>
> So if you want to keep folks like me, and encourage others, please,
> PLEASE - clean up the #fedora channel from the egomaniac, self-centered,
> self-serving folks that spoil it for so many others.
>
> Have a good New Year!
>   
Are you asking a question regarding an IRC chat room on the fedora
mailing list?  Those two things are separate.

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Re: The Counter-Fedora People At #fedora

[Randy Yates]

Ed Greshko  writes:

> Randy Yates wrote:
>> Why do the following people, time after time, insist on banning me for
>> asking fedora questions on #fedora?
>>
>>   VileGent
>>   Khaytsus (or however you speel his name)
>>   [R]
>>
>> They are absolute pricks. If the Fedora community wants to improve
>> their position with the public, I suggest that they start monitoring
>> #fedora for the utterly vehement, venomous, vicious attitudes these
>> regulars have there and do a little pruning of operator priviledges.
>>
>> I have been a Fedora user for 4 years (since FC3). I have (for
>> better or worse) provided documentation on some things that have
>> helped me:
>>
>>   http://galois.digitalsignallabs.com/notes.htm
>>
>> I have encouraged my friends to switch to linux/fedora. I'm advising
>> others. I've filed several bug reports. I'M ON-BOARD WITH FEDORA!
>>
>> So if you want to keep folks like me, and encourage others, please,
>> PLEASE - clean up the #fedora channel from the egomaniac, self-centered,
>> self-serving folks that spoil it for so many others.
>>
>> Have a good New Year!
>>   
> Are you asking a question regarding an IRC chat room on the fedora
> mailing list?  Those two things are separate.

Well there is one connection: Fedora! If one part of the community is
hurting Fedora, the other parts should be concerned. 
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Changing GNOME "default" directories

[Alessandro Boggiano]

Hello all,
how can I change the position of the "default" directories in GNOME ?
For example, I'd like to change Download directory from
 "$HOME/Download" to "/Data/Download".

I changed the line  XDG_DOWNLOAD_DIR="$HOME/Download" in the file
/home/myuser/.config/user-dirs.dirs, logout/login, but no effects.

Where 's the trick ?

Thanks
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Re: Where is 2.6.32?

[Konstantin Svist]

On 12/30/2009 07:39 PM, john wendel wrote:
> F11 with kernel.org 2.6.32.2 + Nvidia driver working fine here. You
> really should learn to build a kernel from sources, once you get the
> config file done, the rest is easy.

I've done this way: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs/CustomKernel
But don't think it'll work so easily with vanilla - there's a boatload
of patches from redhat, I don't really want to check myself which ones
need to be applied and which don't.

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Re: The Counter-Fedora People At #fedora

[Ed Greshko]

Randy Yates wrote:
> Ed Greshko  writes:
>
>   
>> Randy Yates wrote:
>> 
>>> Why do the following people, time after time, insist on banning me for
>>> asking fedora questions on #fedora?
>>>
>>>   VileGent
>>>   Khaytsus (or however you speel his name)
>>>   [R]
>>>
>>> They are absolute pricks. If the Fedora community wants to improve
>>> their position with the public, I suggest that they start monitoring
>>> #fedora for the utterly vehement, venomous, vicious attitudes these
>>> regulars have there and do a little pruning of operator priviledges.
>>>
>>> I have been a Fedora user for 4 years (since FC3). I have (for
>>> better or worse) provided documentation on some things that have
>>> helped me:
>>>
>>>   http://galois.digitalsignallabs.com/notes.htm
>>>
>>> I have encouraged my friends to switch to linux/fedora. I'm advising
>>> others. I've filed several bug reports. I'M ON-BOARD WITH FEDORA!
>>>
>>> So if you want to keep folks like me, and encourage others, please,
>>> PLEASE - clean up the #fedora channel from the egomaniac, self-centered,
>>> self-serving folks that spoil it for so many others.
>>>
>>> Have a good New Year!
>>>   
>>>   
>> Are you asking a question regarding an IRC chat room on the fedora
>> mailing list?  Those two things are separate.
>> 
>
> Well there is one connection: Fedora! If one part of the community is
> hurting Fedora, the other parts should be concerned. 
>   
I have the feeling that people use one or the other.  I never use the
IRC channel.  So, I wouldn't even being to know where the correct place
to address your issue. 

I just logged in to that channel and see the following disclaimer

"Any advice you read here is provided by individual community members.
You should use it at your OWN RISK. This advice is owned by each
individual, and does NOT represent the views of Freenode, Fedora or Red
Hat. This channel may be logged"

FWIW, you may find (infrequently) people on this list that don't get
along.  They normally take their food fights offline.  :-)

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Re: Where is 2.6.32?

[Konstantin Svist]

On 12/30/2009 06:08 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote:
> My personal experience with building 2.6.32.recent is that if they
> enhance the video drivers any more we will be running text only. Let
> the developers have the holiday off, and hopefully they will have run
> 2.6.32 on their laptops and be motivated to work on it.
>
> A new year is coming.
>

Ouch, good point :D

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Re: F12/Subversion/httpd -- PROPFIND access denied [Solved]

[Steven F. LeBrun]

On 12/29/2009 08:01 PM, Steven F. LeBrun wrote:
After upgrading to Fedora 12, I installed and tried to set up a 
Subversion repository with mixed success.  I have worked out the bulk 
of the issues but one still has me stumped.  Hopefully, someone on 
this list knows the answer or can point me to a URL that does.


The problem is that I cannot get Subversion to work with Apache 2.2.  
Every time that I try to checkout the repository, I receive a 403 
Forbidden Access error.  To make matters more frustrating, if I access 
the repository using local access (file:///...) the command works.  It 
is only when I try to use HTTP/WebDAV access 
(http://localhost/svn/...) does the access problem occur.


Things that I have tried:

- SELinux enabled and disabled -- no difference.

- Various permissions and ownerships.
  -- The repository and Subversion directories are currently owned by 
apache.apache.


- Various settings in my subversion.conf file for httpd.
  -- When the  section is commented out, the failure 
comes on the third
  "PROPFIND /svn/Home/sfbooks/trunk  HTTP/1.1" request.  The first 
two return 207
  while the third one returns 403.  Using Wireshark, all three 
requests are identical

  barring numbers in the IP headers.
  -- When the  section is active, the failure comes on 
the very first request,
  "OPTIONS /svn/Home/sfbooks/trunk HTTP/1.1" request with a 403 
response.
  -- Both 403 responses contain the same reason: "You don't have 
permission to access

  /svn/Home/sfbooks/trunk\n on this server."

Any suggestions will be appreciated.

Setup:

Root Subversion Directory:/opt/Subversion
Repository Parent Directory:  /opt/Subversion/repos
Password File:  
/opt/Subversion/users/passwords (created using htpasswd)
SVN Authz Config File:
/opt/Subversion/permissions/svnauthz.conf


Repository:   Home  (located at 
/opt/Subversion/repos/Home)

Project within Home Repo: sfbooks/trunk

Content of passwords:
steven:MD5PasswordHash

Content of svnauthz.conf
[/]
steven=rw

Content of conf.d/subversion.conf

  LoadModule dav_svn_module modules/mod_dav_svn.so
  LoadModule authz_svn_module   modules/mod_authz_svn.so

  Alias  /svn  /opt/Subversion/repos


 # mod_dav Commands
 DAV  svn
 DavDepthInfinity on

 # SVN Provider Commands
 SVNParentPath/opt/Subversion/repos

 # authz_svn_module Commands
 AuthzSVNAccessFile   /opt/Subversion/permissions/svnauthz.conf



 # Authentication Commands
 AuthType Basic
 AuthName "Subversion Repository Login"
 AuthUserFile /opt/Subversion/users/passwords
 Satisfy  Any
 Require  valid-user


 # 
 #Order   Allow,Deny
 #Allow   from All
 # 




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After a lot of searching with google, forums, etc, no solution was found 
on the net.  There were a lot of forums/mailing lists that listed the 
same problem but no solutions were offered.  A lot of things were hinted 
at nobody had a general solution.


Most of the suggestions revolved around access permissions of the actual 
files in the repository and its path.  That did not affect my problem.


Two facts lead me to the final solution:
1)  "svn checkout file:///[repo path]  [sandbox path]" worked while
 "svn checkout http://localhost/[repo URI] [sandbox path]" did not.
 This lead me to believe that I had created my Subversion 
repository correctly and that
 the problem was probably with my Apache configuration or Linux 
filesystem access

 permissions.

2)  When I ran the checkout command using the http URL, the Apache 
access log showed
 multiple requests ran correctly before the 403 Forbidden 
occurred.  Plus, the request
 that received the 403 status was the third request for the same 
data.  The content of
 the all three requests were identical with the exception of IP 
headers (counters and

 times differ).

So what could be the problem that allowed the first two PROPFIND 
requests to succeed while rejecting the third identical request.


The answer:  mod_evasive (mod_evasive20.so in my case).

The evasive module is designed to stop denial of service attacks.  It 
works by tracking how many times the same request comes in from the same 
IP address in a configurable interval.  In the case of the default 
settings the threshold was set to 2 requests/IP Address/1 second 
interval.  This allowed the first two PROPFIND requests to the same path 
to succeed and the third request to fail with a 403 Forbidden error.


Increasing the threshold to 5 requests per second per IP addre

Re: A great LAUGH for all Fedora users today

[jdow]

From: "Frank Cox" 
Sent: Wednesday, 2009/December/30 20:37




On Wed, 2009-12-30 at 20:58 -0500, Bill Davidsen wrote:

Having someone change the Linux root password would be better how?


Boot to runlevel 1 and change it back.
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Log in as Administrator (not the visible username.) Then change
the user's password back to something useful.

(ctl-alt-delete twice on the login page gives you the menu that
has Administrator on it. It would take a fairly canny person to
realize that there is an Administrator account to be changed. This
works on XP, at least. I suspect it works on newer versions, too.)

{^,-}

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