Re: Jazz update and Newbie Questionnaire

2005-04-04 Thread Melbeach
Nina,
Hopefully, this is just a bad week. Don't they go in cycles? Hang in there!
Let us know what your internist says.

-Kyle

- Original Message - 
From: Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 3:06 PM
Subject: Jazz update and Newbie Questionnaire


 Kyle and group,
 Both Jazz and Grace started acting sick about two weeks ago.  Grace
 responded with Dox, and I tried to get away with splitting a vial of VO
 over two days for Jazz, (no Dox, Jazz has never been on Dox, and I
 didn't know if it was appropriate).  She seemed to get a little better,
 than she got worse.  I just started her on VO again 2 days ago, I'll do
 the full five days with 4cc each day, (I'm running out, but more is on
 order).  This is the first time she's not responding, at least not yet.
 I also started decided to go ahead and put her on Dox, (also two days
 ago), but I've only been giving it once a day.  Today I'll start giving
 Dox to her twice a day (as called for).  Grace has always responded well
 to only once a day, but something else is going on with Jazz.  She's
 hanging in there, she seemed a little bit better this morning, (a bit
 more alert than last night).  She's not eating well, (She's off her
 regular food altogether, she is eating a little bit of baby food, but
 not everytime I offer it, especially  if I try and slip in some Transfer
 Factor).  Her third eyelids have been up for the last week, and I've
 seen her licking cement, (sign of anemia).  I tend to panic, for good
 reason; we have an appointment at 5pm at the internist tomorrow.  I'm
 praying she'll drastically improve by then.  I've been focusing so much
 energy and attention on Gypsy, (who is improving slightly with oral
 Pred), that I let Jazz's situation get away from me.  I tell you, I'm
 tired!

 The one thing I've found, is that the VO can be, and is, a life saver.
 The problem is that it hasn't proved to be the cure I'd hoped for, at
 least not in the cases of cats that have reached the stages that Jazz,
 Grace and Brissle seem to, I'm guessing they're all at stage four.  It's
 an excellent weapon in our arsenal for keeping them asymptomatic,
 though.  I'm still hopeful that it will prove to be enough of a boost to
 clear the disease for those fortunate enough to use it during the
 earlier stages.

 I've been thinking about the new members.  The IBD list that I recently
 joined, (a real disappointment in many ways, I wrote to James to thank
 him for spoiling me without my even being aware!), has a questionnaire
 they send out to all newbies.  I think that's an excellent idea to save
 time in addressing common problems and help with solutions.  We could
 send each new member an off-list email with questions about their cat,
 his symptoms, and what, if anything they've already done.  Along with
 the questions, a few paragraphs about common treatments, and diet
 etc.would be a real time saver, (something like Kerry's already been
 doing).  What do you think?  I guess we should talk to the list
 administrators about this.

 Once again, thank you Kyle and everyone else for your continued support
 and help,
 Much love to all of you,
 Nina


 Melbeach wrote:

 Nina, what's going on with Jazz? Is she not responding to VO? I'm so sorry
to
 hear about this. We think we have the pot of gold, and no? I'll be praying
for
 you guys.
 
 -Kyle
 
 
 
 
 
 








Re: German Shepherd attack! Sooo OT

2005-04-04 Thread tamara stickler
When cats sharpen there claws I've been told that they are not only marking by ...well..making marks, but by releasing some sort of sent from the pours on the pads on the feet. Perhaps that is what was triggering the incidentI have also know dogs who play- remember animals do play bite...all growling and frightening sounds included- by mouthing a cat's head- my dog and cat played this way until Quintie grew up and played too roughly with the claws and biting..the dog backed off.

Chances are best that if the sheppard was actually - attacking- there would have been NO cat to pull out of her mouth..and he CERTAINLY would not have been unmarked.

Now I did place a mountain dog - trained to the teeth for a previous handicapped owner - gentle as could be- who decided he no longer need Taz and dumped him at the pound. The new owner took him home and that weekend her granddaughter brought over her new kitten. Taz walked right upcalm as could be--picked the kitten up by the back--shook once-- dropped the dead kitten at the granddaughter's feet. What I'm saying is...if the big dog MEANS to killit will be done quickly. Most likely the sheppard was just playing(although I will admit...play can look horrifying to a human!)

The sheppard should be socialized around cats wearing a muzzle an on a lease until you are certain of its intentions.

Many will tell you that if a dog is predisposed to attacking cats it can't be broken of thatBUT My mom has a standard poodle - a would be cat-killer- rescued from the pound- same background- chained outside for the first 4yrs of her life before being dumped. She made it her personal mission in life to try to eat cats, until a stray that adopted my parents..over the course of three years...taught Basha to accept him. Now to Basha's shugrin...she lives with TWO cats...who use her as a bed!

Don't give up hope.

Good luck,
TNina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Bonnie,I wanted to respond to your story about Andre and your brother's GSD. I can imagine how scary that incident was for you guys. Without my being there, or without more info about exactly what took place, it's hard for me to speculate on the "whys" of it. However, one thing I can tell you is, if that GSD meant to hurt Andre, you wouldn't have been shaking on the couch, you would have been headed to the ER, or worse. I'm guessing your reaction to the situation was more upsetting than the actual incident to either the dog or the cat, (I'm hoping that's why Andre was hiding under the chair, and not necessarily because of the encounter).When I first introduced my cat Trouble to our GSD, (Zevon), we had a similar scare. We had recently brought Zevon home from a rescue, (he was a year old and had been tied to a tree his whole young
 life!), and thought he was settled enough to meet Trouble. I sat on the couch with Trouble on my lap, and Bruce brought Zevon over on a leash. They touched noses and everything seemed to be going well, and then, YAUMP! In a split second, Zevon engulfed Trouble's entire head in his mouth! My husband and I both freaked out! Bruce started screaming NO, NO NO!, yanking Zevon out the door. I was so shook up. I quickly checked Troub over for wounds, and found none. He was a bit wet, but no damage. As I sat back on the couch shaking, Trouble started grooming himself, I swear I could hear him say, neah, neah, n, neah, neah! After that we watched the two of them like hawks. Poor Zevon got to the point that he would cower whenever he saw Trouble, (because of all the warnings we gave him about leaving Troub alone). Trouble loved it.Now, I'm not saying your situation is the same as this story. I wasn't there, but I would give them
 some time, leash the dog, and then calmly see how they react to each other. I'd hate to think of your brother and his dog being deprived of another cat friend without finding out for sure if his dog has really snapped his twig.BONNIE J KALMBACH wrote:No need to apologize! Tonight something inexplicable happened at our house. My black half meezer Andre was sharpening his claws at the cat scratcher when my brother's always sweet German Shepherd walked by. She's been around Andre a lot but suddenly she attacked and seemed to be biting him. I got her away from him, screaming all the time. I examined Andre all over and he doesn't seem hurt but he hid under a chair for a long time. Before this Andre was never afraid of dogs. We put the dog in her crate where she sat looking abashed and sad.My brother lost his own cat, Jezebel, to FELV and lymphoma last year and
 the dog was always so sweet to her. He was thinking about getting another cat, but he was so shaken by what happened tonight that he said he doesn't think he will now.It looked like Andre's scratching triggered the attack, but no one can figure out why. My brother got the dog from the Humane Society when she was a three month old pup.Bonnie in WI - Original Message -From: Jen Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Date: 

Re: German Shepherd attack! Sooo OT

2005-04-04 Thread Rachel
My husky-mix (suspected wolf-hybrid) - Sunny -supposedly killed a cat before being dumped at the pound. She has lived with 12 different cats over the last 4 years and hasn't harmed one of them.
My St. Bernard-Border Collie Mix - Nicholas - loves cats. He warned one of my kittens who got too close to his food bowl. I thought he was going to chomp the middle out of the kitten. There wasn't a mark on the kitten, he was just wet. That kitten doesn't put his head in the dogs food bowls anymore.tamara stickler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

When cats sharpen there claws I've been told that they are not only marking by ...well..making marks, but by releasing some sort of sent from the pours on the pads on the feet. Perhaps that is what was triggering the incidentI have also know dogs who play- remember animals do play bite...all growling and frightening sounds included- by mouthing a cat's head- my dog and cat played this way until Quintie grew up and played too roughly with the claws and biting..the dog backed off.

Chances are best that if the sheppard was actually - attacking- there would have been NO cat to pull out of her mouth..and he CERTAINLY would not have been unmarked.

Now I did place a mountain dog - trained to the teeth for a previous handicapped owner - gentle as could be- who decided he no longer need Taz and dumped him at the pound. The new owner took him home and that weekend her granddaughter brought over her new kitten. Taz walked right upcalm as could be--picked the kitten up by the back--shook once-- dropped the dead kitten at the granddaughter's feet. What I'm saying is...if the big dog MEANS to killit will be done quickly. Most likely the sheppard was just playing(although I will admit...play can look horrifying to a human!)

The sheppard should be socialized around cats wearing a muzzle an on a lease until you are certain of its intentions.

Many will tell you that if a dog is predisposed to attacking cats it can't be broken of thatBUT My mom has a standard poodle - a would be cat-killer- rescued from the pound- same background- chained outside for the first 4yrs of her life before being dumped. She made it her personal mission in life to try to eat cats, until a stray that adopted my parents..over the course of three years...taught Basha to accept him. Now to Basha's shugrin...she lives with TWO cats...who use her as a bed!

Don't give up hope.

Good luck,
TNina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Bonnie,I wanted to respond to your story about Andre and your brother's GSD. I can imagine how scary that incident was for you guys. Without my being there, or without more info about exactly what took place, it's hard for me to speculate on the "whys" of it. However, one thing I can tell you is, if that GSD meant to hurt Andre, you wouldn't have been shaking on the couch, you would have been headed to the ER, or worse. I'm guessing your reaction to the situation was more upsetting than the actual incident to either the dog or the cat, (I'm hoping that's why Andre was hiding under the chair, and not necessarily because of the encounter).When I first introduced my cat Trouble to our GSD, (Zevon), we had a similar scare. We had recently brought Zevon home from a rescue, (he was a year old and had been tied to a tree his whole young
 life!), and thought he was settled enough to meet Trouble. I sat on the couch with Trouble on my lap, and Bruce brought Zevon over on a leash. They touched noses and everything seemed to be going well, and then, YAUMP! In a split second, Zevon engulfed Trouble's entire head in his mouth! My husband and I both freaked out! Bruce started screaming NO, NO NO!, yanking Zevon out the door. I was so shook up. I quickly checked Troub over for wounds, and found none. He was a bit wet, but no damage. As I sat back on the couch shaking, Trouble started grooming himself, I swear I could hear him say, neah, neah, n, neah, neah! After that we watched the two of them like hawks. Poor Zevon got to the point that he would cower whenever he saw Trouble, (because of all the warnings we gave him about leaving Troub alone). Trouble loved it.Now, I'm not saying your situation is the same as this story. I wasn't there, but I would give them
 some time, leash the dog, and then calmly see how they react to each other. I'd hate to think of your brother and his dog being deprived of another cat friend without finding out for sure if his dog has really snapped his twig.BONNIE J KALMBACH wrote:No need to apologize! Tonight something inexplicable happened at our house. My black half meezer Andre was sharpening his claws at the cat scratcher when my brother's always sweet German Shepherd walked by. She's been around Andre a lot but suddenly she attacked and seemed to be biting him. I got her away from him, screaming all the time. I examined Andre all over and he doesn't seem hurt but he hid under a chair for a long time. Before this Andre was never afraid of dogs. We put the dog in her 

CLS for Monday April 3, 2005

2005-04-04 Thread Belinda Sauro
   Hi All,
  Here is the service for Monday April 3rd, 2005.  Hope all the furkids 
are doing well.  Take care all!

FeLV Candle Light Service
http://www.bemikitties.com/cls
--
Belinda
Happiness is being owned by cats ...
Be-Mi-Kitties ...
http://www.bemikitties.com
Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens
http://adopt.bemikitties.com



ot-dogfighting legislation

2005-04-04 Thread catatonya
I don't want to start another PETA battle. But if you're disturbed by dogfighting and cockfighting here is some info. for you.

I have a sample letter I wrote at the bottom of the email if you want to modify and use it. The House Bill and the Senate Bill have different numbers, so be sure to put the correct numbers in your correspondence.

You can find your senators' and congressman's email very easily by doing a google search.

example "us senators email addresses"

tPETA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: "PETA" [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Help Federal Officials Tackle Animal Fighters!Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 10:14:28 -0500Help Federal Officials Tackle Animal Fighters! 
Dear Friend,
Our nation and its animals need your voice today! As you may know, the sadistic blood sports of dogfighting and cockfighting continue in many states. Federal officials have shied away from investigating and prosecuting some of these crimes, citing the weak statute and penalties applicable to such offenses. A vital piece of legislation that will help address this issue—the Animal Fighting Prohibition Enforcement Act—was introduced in the House and the Senate on February 15 and is being reviewed by committees.
If they are passed by the Congress, S.382 and H.R.817 will strengthen prohibitions against animal fighting. The transport of animals for fighting—currently a federal misdemeanor punishable by one year in jail—would become a felony, with offenders facing two years in prison. The legislation would also criminalize the interstate shipment of cockfighting paraphernalia, including the razor-sharp gaffs typically attached to roosters’ legs before fights.
Please contact your senators and representative to express your support for the Animal Fighting Prohibition Enforcement Act today. And please forward this message to others who might be willing to lend their voices to this important issue:
Contact information for senators and representatives is available online. 
Thank you for your compassion for animals and for your willingness to act.
Yours sincerely,
Daniel PadenDomestic Animal and Wildlife Rescue  Information DepartmentPeople for the Ethical Treatment of Animals
Dear Congressman Linder,

Our nation and its animals need your voice today! As you may know, the sadistic blood sports of dogfighting and cockfighting continue in many states including Georgia wheretheyare illegal. I'm sure you're aware of the major bust here in Georgia where people had brought children to such a gruesome event. I believe it is time for the federal government to get more involved as the people involved cross state lines and put not only their 'fighting animals', but people's pets and children in danger through their actions.

I truly believe the increase in dog attacks we are seeing on children are related to these idiots abusing and training their animals to kill.

Please support the Animal Fighting Prohibition Enforcement Act! (H.R. 817)
Thank you for your time.
Tonya Tolbert
Acworth, GA

TeeCee's Prognosis from the specialist

2005-04-04 Thread Stephanie E Caldwell








Im not up to replying to all the wonderful mail Ive
received. Since 5pm Friday Ive
had a total of about 6 hours sleep. Tees been on liquid diet every hour
and other meds, so Ive been cat napping. Its starting to take its toll on me, and Im not thinking very
clearly.



Thanks Nina for the kind
words, If I hurt your feelings with my reply Im sorry. 



Kyle, thanks for the
ideas, but Im not sure that it will help him.



Everyone else, Thanks for the kind
words.



The clinic gave him a blood transfusion last night around 6
pm. Hes not perked up hardly any. 



His official diagnosis is FeLV, Anemia, Leukopenia, fever
unknown origins. And suspected Stage V Lymphoma. They
gave him a few days.



Hes home an sucralfate for
his mouth and throat ulcers. He cant close his mouth theyre so
painful. Buprenorphine, a mild painkiller. Will slow
his heart down, but hes in pain and if it shortens his time, so be it. 2 types of antibiotics. Prednisolone for I dont remember
what. Staying on the immune builder. Starting Transfer
factor tomorrow AM and a cancer fighter supplement.



Any ideas on the cancer? Oral ulcers?



Thanks,

Steph








RE: TeeCee's Prognosis from the specialist

2005-04-04 Thread Stephanie E Caldwell








What is the Liver Shake?



Im trying to stay positive. I had another hopeless
kitty saved by the herbal cancer cure, so I know it can work. Im just
not sure that it has time



Thanks,

Steph



-Original Message-
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of catatonya
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:58
PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: TeeCee's Prognosis
from the specialist





Steph,











No great ideas, but I'm sorry for what you're going
through with TeeCee. Have you tried the liver shake? It's good for
anemia, and some people swear by it.











Try to keep positive thoughts. Sometimes things
DO turn around.











tonya

Stephanie E Caldwell
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:





Im not up to
replying to all the wonderful mail Ive received. Since 5pm
Friday Ive had a total of about 6 hours sleep. Tees been on
liquid diet every hour and other meds, so Ive been cat napping.
Its starting to take its toll on me, and Im not thinking
very clearly.



Thanks Nina
for the kind words, If I hurt your feelings with my reply Im sorry. 



Kyle,
thanks for the ideas, but Im not sure that it will help him.



Everyone else, Thanks for
the kind words.



The clinic gave him a
blood transfusion last night around 6 pm. Hes not perked up hardly any. 



His official diagnosis is
FeLV, Anemia, Leukopenia, fever unknown origins. And suspected Stage V
Lymphoma. They gave him a few days.



Hes home an
sucralfate for his mouth and throat ulcers. He cant close his mouth
theyre so painful. Buprenorphine, a mild painkiller. Will slow his heart
down, but hes in pain and if it shortens his time, so be it. 2 types of
antibiotics. Prednisolone for I dont remember what. Staying on the
immune builder. Starting Transfer factor tomorrow AM and a cancer fighter
supplement.



Any ideas on the cancer?
Oral ulcers?



Thanks,

Steph










allergies/overgrooming

2005-04-04 Thread catatonya
Hi all,

I wrote a while back about my positive (DD) and her overgrooming. I took her to the vet 2 weeks ago and she suggested pred. I know Belinda said that had worked for her cat, but I asked about the benedryl as Michelle had suggested as well. The vet said the benedryl wouldn't work... She said it would make her drowsy but not help. I didn't really get into it with her. 

She did say if I didn't want to give pred I could try these allergy 'leave in' rinses and lotions. Well I thought that would be the least invasive, so I agreed.

DD did NOT appreciate the bath. And as I was having to scruff her to keep her in the sink I don't know how much of the stuff even got on her.

I can't tell a real difference, but the vet said to do it once a week.

Any ideas? Should I just go with the pred as the bath is stressful?

tonya

bartonella anyone?

2005-04-04 Thread catatonya
This week I also took in my 2 (negative) cats for their blood pressure check. They are both on med.s for high blood pressure. I asked before, but is ANYONE else's vet checking blood pressure now other than mine???

Anyway, one of them, Popeye, one of my oldest cats (maybe 10) has been losing weight, not grooming, etc...And he and Bob had terrible breath and I feared kidney problems. I tookthem in several months ago for this and they ran bloodwork which was good. Putthem on the blood pressure medicine and did a dental. I was told to wait and see if these things seemed to help.

I tookthem back in becausePopeye still seems to be losing weight andbothof them still have awfulbreath. They ran bloodwork again and it was fine. Blood pressure was fine. But they both seemed to have inflamed gums even after their recent dental.

The vet said she suspected Bartonella. Not Hemobartonella. She said this can cause mouth problems, etc... and that if 2 of my cats have it they probably all do. The tests take about a week to get back so I'm still waiting on results. Vet said it required a run on antibiotics. (zithromax, eurithromycin??? something like that)

Meanwhile, I did a search on Bartonella and found out that it is what gives people "Cat Scratch Fever (Disease)". There was not a lot of information. Apparently it's rather new research in how it effects cats? I'm starting to wonder if my vet reads all the new research and then wants to test all my cats for it! blood pressure, now bartonella.

She did tell me that the high blood pressure can cause blindness in cats and that Popeye had something ( I don't recall what she called it.) going on with his eyes caused by the blood pressure.

Anyone have any experience with this?

tonya

RE: TeeCee's Prognosis from the specialist

2005-04-04 Thread catatonya
Steph,

This is an old email from Sue with the recipe.

tonya

Hi Chris - not sure if this would help with the red blood cells... a liver shake recipe posted by Cesar a while ago... does anyone think this will help? 1 cup RAW LIVER (BEEF, or CHICKEN) 1 cup FRESH CARROT JUICE or V-8, or Tomatoe Juice 1/4 cup *FRESH FILTERED WATER 1 RAW EGG YOLK 1 tsp. KELP POWDER OR SPIRULINACOMBINE AND MIX IN A BLENDER UNTIL LIQUIFIED. (Note: it will be frothy)Dosage:Administer lOcc daily 3-6 times a day. (6Occ per day max)Some cats will need to be force-fed with a syringe, while others willdrink it out of a bowl.This food has a sweet and salty taste, and the energetic properties oftonifying (energy boosting), warming and stimulating and supports thekidneys, spleen, liver and stomach.This drink is a complete dinner for a sick cat until they feel goodenough to eat by themselves
 again.*Substitute rice water if the cat has diarrhea. Rice wateris made by boiling white rice (2 Tblsp) with water (1 cup) for 30minutes.This liquid aids digestion and assimilation and inhibits the symptomsof diarrhea.Stephanie E Caldwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:







What is the Liver Shake?

I’m trying to stay positive. I had another hopeless kitty saved by the herbal cancer cure, so I know it can work. I’m just not sure that it has time…

Thanks,
Steph

-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of catatonyaSent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:58 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: TeeCee's Prognosis from the specialist


Steph,



No great ideas, but I'm sorry for what you're going through with TeeCee. Have you tried the liver shake? It's good for anemia, and some people swear by it.



Try to keep positive thoughts. Sometimes things DO turn around.



tonyaStephanie E Caldwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I’m not up to replying to all the wonderful mail I’ve received. Since 5pm Friday I’ve had a total of about 6 hours sleep. Tee’s been on liquid diet every hour and other meds, so I’ve been cat napping. It’s starting to take it’s toll on me, and I’m not thinking very clearly.

Thanks Nina for the kind words, If I hurt your feelings with my reply I’m sorry. 

Kyle, thanks for the ideas, but I’m not sure that it will help him.

Everyone else, Thanks for the kind words.

The clinic gave him a blood transfusion last night around 6 pm. He’s not perked up hardly any. 

His official diagnosis is FeLV, Anemia, Leukopenia, fever unknown origins. And suspected Stage V Lymphoma. They gave him a few days.

He’s home an sucralfate for his mouth and throat ulcers. He can’t close his mouth they’re so painful. Buprenorphine, a mild painkiller. Will slow his heart down, but he’s in pain and if it shortens his time, so be it. 2 types of antibiotics. Prednisolone for I don’t remember what. Staying on the immune builder. Starting Transfer factor tomorrow AM and a cancer fighter supplement.

Any ideas on the cancer? Oral ulcers?

Thanks,
Steph

RE: TeeCee's Prognosis from the specialist

2005-04-04 Thread Stephanie E Caldwell








Thanks so much!!



Steph



-Original Message-
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of catatonya
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 11:17
PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: TeeCee's Prognosis
from the specialist





Steph,











This is an old email from Sue with the recipe.











tonya











Hi Chris - not sure if this would help with the red
blood cells... a 
liver 
shake recipe posted by Cesar a while ago... does anyone think this will 
help?

 1 cup RAW LIVER (BEEF, or CHICKEN)
 1 cup FRESH CARROT JUICE or V-8, or Tomatoe Juice
 1/4 cup *FRESH FILTERED WATER
 1 RAW EGG YOLK
 1 tsp. KELP POWDER OR SPIRULINA


COMBINE AND MIX IN A BLENDER UNTIL LIQUIFIED. (Note: it will be frothy)

Dosage:

Administer lOcc daily 3-6 times a day. (6Occ per day max)

Some cats will need to be force-fed with a syringe, while others will
drink it out of a bowl.

This food has a sweet and salty taste, and the energetic properties of
tonifying (energy boosting), warming and stimulating and supports the
kidneys, spleen, liver and stomach.

This drink is a complete dinner for a sick cat until they feel good
enough to eat by themselves again.

*Substitute rice water if the cat has diarrhea. Rice water
is made by boiling white rice (2 Tblsp) with water (1 cup) for 30
minutes.
This liquid aids digestion and assimilation and inhibits the symptoms
of diarrhea.





Stephanie E Caldwell
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:





What is the Liver Shake?



Im trying to stay positive. I had
another hopeless kitty saved by the herbal cancer cure, so I know it can work.
Im just not sure that it has time



Thanks,

Steph



-Original Message-
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of catatonya
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:58
PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: TeeCee's Prognosis
from the specialist





Steph,











No great ideas, but I'm sorry for what you're going
through with TeeCee. Have you tried the liver shake? It's good for
anemia, and some people swear by it.











Try to keep positive thoughts. Sometimes things
DO turn around.











tonya

Stephanie E Caldwell
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:





Im not up to
replying to all the wonderful mail Ive received. Since 5pm
Friday Ive had a total of about 6 hours sleep. Tees been on
liquid diet every hour and other meds, so Ive been cat napping.
Its starting to take its toll on me, and Im not thinking
very clearly.



Thanks Nina
for the kind words, If I hurt your feelings with my reply Im sorry. 



Kyle,
thanks for the ideas, but Im not sure that it will help him.



Everyone else, Thanks for
the kind words.



The clinic gave him a
blood transfusion last night around 6 pm. Hes not perked up hardly any. 



His official diagnosis is
FeLV, Anemia, Leukopenia, fever unknown origins. And suspected Stage V
Lymphoma. They gave him a few days.



Hes home an
sucralfate for his mouth and throat ulcers. He cant close his mouth
theyre so painful. Buprenorphine, a mild painkiller. Will slow his heart
down, but hes in pain and if it shortens his time, so be it. 2 types of
antibiotics. Prednisolone for I dont remember what. Staying on the
immune builder. Starting Transfer factor tomorrow AM and a cancer fighter
supplement.



Any ideas on the cancer?
Oral ulcers?



Thanks,

Steph












Re: German Shepherd attack! Sooo OT

2005-04-04 Thread BONNIE J KALMBACH
Nina,
 Andre has a white undercoat; it looks so funny to see white hair come 
out when he's being brushed There was a lot of ruffled white fur 
stcking out after his encounter with Midnight.

Bonnie

- Original Message -
From: Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Monday, April 4, 2005 7:02 pm
Subject: Re: German Shepherd attack! Sooo OT

 Bonnie,
 I forgot to mention, my cat Trouble, was also a black half meezer!
 Nina
 
  My black half meezer Andre was sharpening his claws at the cat 
 scratcher when my brother's always sweet German Shepherd walked 
 by. 
 She's been around Andre a lot but suddenly she attacked and seemed 
 to be 
 biting him. I got her away from him, screaming all the time. I 
 examined 
 Andre all over and he doesn't seem hurt but he hid under a chair 
 for a 
 long time.
 
 
 



Re: German Shepherd attack! Sooo OT

2005-04-04 Thread BONNIE J KALMBACH
Definitely; I met a couple who adopted a retied greyhound and as soon 
as he walked into their house for the first time, he immediately 
killed their cat who had come up to meet him. Many greyhounds are 
trained on live animals - bunnies, kittens, etc although it is 
supposed to be illegal in most places. But that's the racing biz; the 
dogs themselves, especially the slow ones, aren't treated any better 
as many of us know. The heartbroken couple to the dog back to the 
local rescue and later adopted one who had been tested for cat 
compatibility.

Bonnie
 
 (if i ever get a dog again, i'll seriously consider a retired
 greyhound, and it is VITAL that they be tested for cat-safeness)
 
 http://forums.doghobbyist.com/view.php?id=83207,83207
 http://forums.doghobbyist.com/view.php?id=83554,83554
 
 



Re: German Shepherd attack! Sooo OT

2005-04-04 Thread TenHouseCats
yep, any GOOD greyhound rescue pre-tests because it's such a big
issue. one friend has greys who LOVES her cats, and ANY cats,
actually--loves to clean out their ears. greys are good if you
have horses, too--easy to exercise!



Re: OT:Check out Alliance for Animals: Action Alerts (Cat Hunting in WI.)

2005-04-04 Thread Samiluke




I just want to remind all Wisconsin list members that the public hearings 
regarding this issue are coming up:Monday 4/11/05 at 7 PM. 
These meetings will occur in each Wisconsin county. To find the location 
for your county, check out Don't Shoot 
the Cat . Bonnie,I like your idea about confining the developers 
:)

Yvonne

In a message dated 3/8/2005 10:57:28 AM Central Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
This 
  topic was on a call in show on Wisconsin Public Radio this morning. Most 
  of the callers were enraged about the idea. The wildlife biologist who had 
  studied the effects of cats on bird populations said he had been getting 
  plenty of email too. But he did admit one thing - that development both 
  here and in southern locations where birds spend the winter was the major 
  cause of the decline in song bird populations. I suppose shooting 
  developers might be a bit extreme but maybe we can confine them somehow 
  :)Bonnie