Re: Buster update

2006-02-11 Thread Belinda Sauro

  Actigal, and Milk thistle are good for liver ailments.

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RE: Chris' Tucson - testing neg than pos

2006-02-11 Thread Chris









Well-Tucson came out of that wall; ate and
hasn’t stopped eating since!

 



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Subject: Re: Chris' Tucson - testing
neg than pos

 

    What
an amazing story!!
 Took 5 more days and many
holes punched and threats to management to call media but lo & behold
little Tucson & her brother came out of the wall.  They were about 6
weeks old and had fallen into an ac duct.  Mom who was an incredible cat
must have been dropping food down there while caring for her other kittens on
the roof—all this in 100 degree weather! 



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Re: Buster update

2006-02-11 Thread Marylyn



See if you can find something salty for him.  
That seems to help Kitty.  Deli ham (I know, it is awful) is a 
favorite.  If she gets a little down she feels better and often will eat 
later.  You may need to rub it on the nose or put a piece in the mouth 
(don't force it--just make sure he can taste it).
 
Good luck.  This is a hard 
one. 
 
 
 
 
 
 
If you have men who will exclude any of God's 
creatures 
from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who 
 
will deal likewise with their fellow 
man.  
St. Francis

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  catatonya 
  
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  
  Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 8:05 
  PM
  Subject: Re: Buster update
  
  I don't know, Kerry.  I don't think I would force feed if he's 
  vomiting.  I can't recall the med. my cat was on for liver disease, but 
  she was on something.  We also had her on sam-E.  I would think the 
  a/d would be too rich for her?
   
  Maybe some chicken broth?
   
  tonyaKerry Roach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
  wrote:
  
Buster isn't doing well at all today...I did get him to eat a little on 
his own Fri..and drink some water..He went to the box a couple of times, but 
is very wobbly..
I got his meds down him early this morning, but now he won't eat at 
all...I tried to feed him some of the same thing I did yesterday and  
he licked the juice then almost immediately threw up...then I tried a/d, but 
he wouldn't touch it...I know I have to get something in him, but he is very 
hard to deal with like that..It really stresses him out..I did give him some 
pepcid and appetite stimulant transdermal.
I guess Bandy knows he isn't feeling well because I have never seen 
Bandy clean him and now I have seen this twice today...Bandy is staying 
right with him..
Any suggestions on what I should do since he threw up, I don't know 
what to do..I did get a little water in him but not much...I didn't know if 
I should try to force feed him or not since he threw up..
I will post his blood work later...I do know that his WBC is very low 
and so is the PCV. All liver tests are elevated and all others are 
normal..
 
Keep him in your prayers..
Kerry, Bandy and Buster


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Re: Buster update

2006-02-11 Thread catatonya
I don't know, Kerry.  I don't think I would force feed if he's vomiting.  I can't recall the med. my cat was on for liver disease, but she was on something.  We also had her on sam-E.  I would think the a/d would be too rich for her?     Maybe some chicken broth?     tonyaKerry Roach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Buster isn't doing well at all today...I did get him to eat a little on his own Fri..and drink some water..He went to the box a couple of times, but is very wobbly..  I got his meds down him early this morning, but now he won't eat at all...I tried to feed him some of the same thing I did yesterday and  he licked the juice then almost immediately threw up...then I tried a/d, but he wouldn't touch it...I know I have to get something in him,
 but he is very hard to deal with like that..It really stresses him out..I did give him some pepcid and appetite stimulant transdermal.  I guess Bandy knows he isn't feeling well because I have never seen Bandy clean him and now I have seen this twice today...Bandy is staying right with him..  Any suggestions on what I should do since he threw up, I don't know what to do..I did get a little water in him but not much...I didn't know if I should try to force feed him or not since he threw up..  I will post his blood work later...I do know that his WBC is very low and so is the PCV. All liver tests are elevated and all others are normal..     Keep him in your prayers..  Kerry, Bandy and Buster  Relax. Yahoo! Mail virus scanning helps detect nasty viruses!

Re: Chris' Tucson - testing neg than pos

2006-02-11 Thread Belinda Sauro




    What an amazing story!!
 Took 5 more
days and many holes punched and threats to management to call media but
lo
& behold little Tucson & her
brother came out of the wall.  They were about 6
weeks old and had fallen into an ac duct.  Mom who was an incredible
cat
must have been dropping food down there while caring for her other
kittens on
the roof—all this in 100 degree weather! 
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Re: Spayed twice - Marylyn

2006-02-11 Thread Marylyn



They were looking at the hormone levels.  
There are two tests that can be run.  I don't understand the details but 
the one they ran on Dixie was a simple blood test.  The other involves 
giving the cat hormones and seeing what the reaction is.  I would 
have loved to have seen my vet's face when the test results came in.  He 
was very sure she was intact.  Anyway, when he called it was "Dixie is 
either a male or she has been spayed."  I understand an ultrasound and a 
very good reader can tell.  I was a big believer in animal communicators 
before this.  Now I am totally convinced.  What are the odds of a cat 
who has been thrown away being spayed and showing up at my house?  Then 
having enough sense to tell two friends that she absolutely did not need to go 
to the vet's again?
 
My vet was against letting her come into heat if we 
could prevent it.  He said the spaying would be less traumatic for her than 
coming into heat.   
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
If you have men who will exclude any of God's 
creatures 
from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who 
 
will deal likewise with their fellow 
man.  
St. Francis

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Tad 
  Burnett 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  
  Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 2:35 
  PM
  Subject: Re: Spayed twice - Marylyn
         If she can't come in contact 
  with an intact maleyou can wait and see if she comes in 
  heatTadNina wrote:
  Marylyn,A 
neighbor of mine rescued a kitty off the street and asked me to have her 
spayed.  Of course, she had very little money so I asked a local 
shelter if we could do it through them.  Poor kitty was opened up only 
to find she had already been spayed.  She was never the same after 
that.  She was never really a friendly cat, but after that she wouldn't 
let anyone touch her except through a brush.  Very sad.  I had 
simply turned her over to this group, I'll never do that again.  I 
always take any cats into the vet myself now.  Who knows if she had 
rough treatment, or disrespectful treatment, when I wasn't there.  Hard 
lesson learned.What were the vets looking for with the blood 
test?  Reduced hormone levels?  I have always been told, if you 
can't see the scar, there's no way to know if they've been spayed 
before.  I would do anything not to put another cat through an 
experience like that poor kitty endured.NinaMarylyn wrote: 

  

  I took Dixie Louise to my vet to be spayed 
  and she tested positive for FeLV.  There were lots of conversations 
  about how to handle the "situation" especially since I have Kitty, a FeLV 
  neg cat who has cancer.  To get to the point, all the vets at the 
  clinic, who are very friendly to all the oddities I bring in, supported 
  having her spayed because it was a lot less stressful than going into heat 
  several times a year and certainly less stressful than a 
  pregnancy. 
   <>I have friends who 
  are animal communicators and Dixie kept telling them she had been to 
  the vet before.  I had my vets run a blood test when they could 
  find no surgery scar.  Seems like Dixie had been spayed by someone in 
  the past.  Luckily, my AC friends were there for her or she would 
  have had surgery a second time.   It is highly unlikely this 
  would ever happen again. 


RE: Buster update

2006-02-11 Thread Chris








So sorry to hear about Buster… when
my Tucson had very low WBC, vet gave her a series of immuno-regulin
shots.  WBC came back up pretty quick.  Had to do it twice and both
times it worked…  Both times I knew something was up because she
didn’t eat—and eating is her very favorite thing to do!  I got
her to eat a little something by giving her anything she would swallow—ham,
tuna water, cottage cheese, a little milk…  not things I would
normally rely on as nourishment but at that point I just wanted to get
something in her.  Luckily, her lack of appetite only lasted a few days so
it was not a major problem..  Didn’t know whether you had considered
this…  

 



Chris

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From:
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Behalf Of Kerry Roach
Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006
5:12 PM
To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Buster update

 



Buster isn't doing well at all today...I did get him
to eat a little on his own Fri..and drink some water..He went to the box a
couple of times, but is very wobbly..





I got his meds down him early this morning, but now he
won't eat at all...I tried to feed him some of the same thing I did yesterday
and  he licked the juice then almost immediately threw up...then I tried
a/d, but he wouldn't touch it...I know I have to get something in him, but he
is very hard to deal with like that..It really stresses him out..I did give him
some pepcid and appetite stimulant transdermal.





I guess Bandy knows he isn't feeling well because I
have never seen Bandy clean him and now I have seen this twice today...Bandy is
staying right with him..





Any suggestions on what I should do since he threw up,
I don't know what to do..I did get a little water in him but not much...I
didn't know if I should try to force feed him or not since he threw up..





I will post his blood work later...I do know that his
WBC is very low and so is the PCV. All liver tests are elevated and all others
are normal..





 





Keep him in your prayers..





Kerry, Bandy and Buster









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Buster update

2006-02-11 Thread Kerry Roach
Buster isn't doing well at all today...I did get him to eat a little on his own Fri..and drink some water..He went to the box a couple of times, but is very wobbly..  I got his meds down him early this morning, but now he won't eat at all...I tried to feed him some of the same thing I did yesterday and  he licked the juice then almost immediately threw up...then I tried a/d, but he wouldn't touch it...I know I have to get something in him, but he is very hard to deal with like that..It really stresses him out..I did give him some pepcid and appetite stimulant transdermal.  I guess Bandy knows he isn't feeling well because I have never seen Bandy clean him and now I have seen this twice today...Bandy is staying right with him..  Any suggestions on what I should do since he threw up, I don't know what to do..I did get a little water in him but not much...I didn't know if I should try to force feed him or not since he threw up..  I
 will post his blood work later...I do know that his WBC is very low and so is the PCV. All liver tests are elevated and all others are normal..     Keep him in your prayers..  Kerry, Bandy and Buster
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Re: Hi, I'm New to the Group

2006-02-11 Thread catatonya
Hi Shana,     If your mother in law has agreed to take her I think that would be great.  If you have your negative cats vaccinated you could also choose to keep her yourself.  If she is in perfect health, she could still throw off the virus, could never get sick from the virus, or could get sick.  She could get sick sometime soon, or not for 10 years!  That's just how unpredictable felv is.       You will get lots of good info. from this list.  I would put her on a good quality food and a good vitamin supplement, and that's all I would do until and unless she showed some symptoms of some sort.     Also, yes, I would have her spayed.  It's less stressful to go ahead and do it than to let her go through her cycles.  I would find a good vet that is willing and positive about treating positive cats. There ARE many out there.  Any vet who says there is nothing
 you can do to help a cat who is not even sick is not a good vet in my opinion.     tonyashana tarver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Hi Everyone,     I am new to the group. We found a beautiful sweet little kitty in our yard 3 wks ago that we named Audrey. She behaved like a feral cat the first week we had her but is now a complete love. She purrs when she hears your voice and jumps into your lap for pets. She has had both the ELISA and IFA test and sadly both have come back positive. She is 1 yr old (although she's tiny, 6 lbs) and in perfect
 heath. We have 2 others cats that are negative (we have kept her in a separate room). We just received the results of the IFA today and we are heartbroken. We were hoping the ELISA was a false pos. Our vet said there is really nothing we can do to help her. My Mother in Law has offered to give her a home and has no other cats. I would love suggestions on our next step with her and any success stories you may have. Also, we need to have her spayed but I am worried about doing it. Any thoughts?     thanks so much,  Shana - Toulouse, Pollock and Audrey

Re: Spayed twice - Marylyn

2006-02-11 Thread Tad Burnett




       If she can't come in contact with an intact male
you can wait and see if she comes in heat
Tad

Nina wrote:

  
  
Marylyn,
A neighbor of mine rescued a kitty off the street and asked me to have
her spayed.  Of course, she had very little money so I asked a local
shelter if we could do it through them.  Poor kitty was opened up only
to find she had already been spayed.  She was never the same after
that.  She was never really a friendly cat, but after that she wouldn't
let anyone touch her except through a brush.  Very sad.  I had simply
turned her over to this group, I'll never do that again.  I always take
any cats into the vet myself now.  Who knows if she had rough
treatment, or disrespectful treatment, when I wasn't there.  Hard
lesson learned.
  
What were the vets looking for with the blood test?  Reduced hormone
levels?  I have always been told, if you can't see the scar, there's no
way to know if they've been spayed before.  I would do anything not to
put another cat through an experience like that poor kitty endured.
Nina
  
Marylyn wrote:
  




I took Dixie Louise to my vet to
be
spayed and she tested positive for FeLV.  There were lots of
conversations about how to handle the "situation" especially since I
have Kitty, a FeLV neg cat who has cancer.  To get to the point, all
the vets at the clinic, who are very friendly to all the oddities I
bring in, supported having her spayed because it was a lot less
stressful than going into heat several times a year and certainly less
stressful than a pregnancy. 
 
<>I have friends who are animal
communicators and Dixie kept telling them she had been to the vet
before.  I had my vets run a blood test when they could find no surgery
scar.  Seems like Dixie had been spayed by someone in the past. 
Luckily, my AC friends were there for her or she would have had surgery
a second time.   It is highly unlikely this would ever happen again. 





Spayed twice - Marylyn

2006-02-11 Thread Nina




Marylyn,
A neighbor of mine rescued a kitty off the street and asked me to have
her spayed.  Of course, she had very little money so I asked a local
shelter if we could do it through them.  Poor kitty was opened up only
to find she had already been spayed.  She was never the same after
that.  She was never really a friendly cat, but after that she wouldn't
let anyone touch her except through a brush.  Very sad.  I had simply
turned her over to this group, I'll never do that again.  I always take
any cats into the vet myself now.  Who knows if she had rough
treatment, or disrespectful treatment, when I wasn't there.  Hard
lesson learned.

What were the vets looking for with the blood test?  Reduced hormone
levels?  I have always been told, if you can't see the scar, there's no
way to know if they've been spayed before.  I would do anything not to
put another cat through an experience like that poor kitty endured.
Nina

Marylyn wrote:

  
  
  
  
  I took Dixie Louise to my vet to be
spayed and she tested positive for FeLV.  There were lots of
conversations about how to handle the "situation" especially since I
have Kitty, a FeLV neg cat who has cancer.  To get to the point, all
the vets at the clinic, who are very friendly to all the oddities I
bring in, supported having her spayed because it was a lot less
stressful than going into heat several times a year and certainly less
stressful than a pregnancy. 
   
  <>I have friends who are animal
communicators and Dixie kept telling them she had been to the vet
before.  I had my vets run a blood test when they could find no surgery
scar.  Seems like Dixie had been spayed by someone in the past. 
Luckily, my AC friends were there for her or she would have had surgery
a second time.   It is highly unlikely this would ever happen again. 




Jewel Update

2006-02-11 Thread Sherry DeHaan
Well it looks like someone finally took notice of her situation,she is at the clinic and on meds,she is very anemic,so keep the prayers coming.
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Re: Hi, I'm New to the Group

2006-02-11 Thread Tad Burnett




Have his blood tested for anemia...red / white blood cell count...  If
normal it is
probably wise to spay as it will mean less stress later when it really
counts...
 
If the count is low then I would not do surgery...
 
Tad

Marylyn wrote:

  
  
  
  
  I took Dixie Louise to my vet to be
spayed and she tested positive for FeLV.  There were lots of
conversations about how to handle the "situation" especially since I
have Kitty, a FeLV neg cat who has cancer.  To get to the point, all
the vets at the clinic, who are very friendly to all the oddities I
bring in, supported having her spayed because it was a lot less
stressful than going into heat several times a year and certainly less
stressful than a pregnancy. 
   
  I have friends who are animal
communicators and Dixie kept telling them she had been to the vet
before.  I had my vets run a blood test when they could find no surgery
scar.  Seems like Dixie had been spayed by someone in the past. 
Luckily, my AC friends were there for her or she would have had surgery
a second time.   It is highly unlikely this would ever happen again.  
   
   
   
   
   
   If you have men
who will exclude any of God's creatures
 from the shelter of
compassion and pity, you will have men who 
 will deal likewise
with their fellow man.
  St.
Francis
  
-
Original Message - 
From:
Nina

To:
felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

Sent:
Saturday, February 11, 2006 11:12 AM
Subject:
Re: Hi, I'm New to the Group


Hi Shana,
Thank you so much for taking in little Audrey!  I'm so glad you
followed your heart and didn't take the advice of your vet!  If you
take a look at our archives, (you could probably do a search on
"mixing"), you see that a great many folks on the list mix their negs
and pos.  I no longer have any felv pos in the house, but when I did, I
mixed them too.  Are your other cats vaccinated?  Are they adults?  If
so, in our experience there is very little chance of them succumbing to
the disease.  Vets warn against mixing for the same reason they advise
pts, it's the safest and easiest solution.  Pure ignorance.  It's a
real hot button with me.  We're all going to die sometime, why should
our little pos friends be denied the chance to live, just because their
life spans may be shorter?

It sounds like a wonderful solution to have your MIL adopt Audrey. 
Bless her heart!  I hope she's as nice in every other way!  If you
decide at the outset that you won't be taking extraordinary measures to
prolong Audrey's life, should she become terminal, then it doesn't have
to be expensive.  There are things you can do to help her stay healthy
and happy that won't cost much at all.  Being an indoor, only cat is a
great start!  Keeping the stress level down, adding immune boosting
supplements and feeding her a high quality diet are the best ways to
maintain her health.  Finding a vet that understands their needs and
isn't willing to write them off at the first sign of illness is
another.  With felv, it's the secondary diseases that take hold that
cause the problems, not felv itself.  If you catch things quickly
enough, they can recover, they just need extra support because they're
immune systems don't allow their bodies to heal themselves as easily. 
There is also a great possibility that she may have been infected and
is in the process of shedding the disease naturally.  She may test neg
in the future!

As far as having her spayed...  If she were mine, I'd go ahead and do
it.  I'd do it now, while she's healthy.  Coming into season is
stressful, (at least it has appeared so to me, all the yowling and
trying to get out to find a boyfriend).  You certainly don't want to
take the chance of her becoming pregnant.  Talk about stressful to the
system!  Hideyo had some good advice about insuring her safety during
the operation, and once you find that felv friendly vet, they'll
understand that add precautions might be necessary.  I'd look for a
board certified internist to help you and your MIL with Audrey's care. 


One more thing...  Where did Audrey come from?  If there's one intact
kitten out there, there are probably more.  You could do them all an
enormous favor by getting some help to TNR (trap/neuter/release), the
colony.  Just think about the sweet angels that weren't as lucky as
Audrey in finding their way into your home.

Let us know what you've decided.  Ask as many questions as you like. 
We're all here to support each other and together we've got an enormous
amount of experience and information to share.  Welcome to our group
Shana,
Nina

shana tarver wrote:

  
  Hi
Everyone,
   
  I
am new to the group. We found a beautiful sweet little kitty in our
yard 3 wks ago that we named 

Re: Hi, I'm New to the Group

2006-02-11 Thread Marylyn



I took Dixie Louise to my vet to be spayed and she 
tested positive for FeLV.  There were lots of conversations about how to 
handle the "situation" especially since I have Kitty, a FeLV neg cat who has 
cancer.  To get to the point, all the vets at the clinic, who are very 
friendly to all the oddities I bring in, supported having her spayed because it 
was a lot less stressful than going into heat several times a year and certainly 
less stressful than a pregnancy. 
 
I have friends who are animal communicators 
and Dixie kept telling them she had been to the vet before.  I had my 
vets run a blood test when they could find no surgery scar.  Seems 
like Dixie had been spayed by someone in the past.  Luckily, my AC friends 
were there for her or she would have had surgery a second time.   It 
is highly unlikely this would ever happen again.  
 
 
 
 
 
 
If you have men who will exclude any of God's 
creatures 
from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who 
 
will deal likewise with their fellow 
man.  
St. Francis

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Nina 
  
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  
  Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 11:12 
  AM
  Subject: Re: Hi, I'm New to the 
  Group
  Hi Shana,Thank you so much for taking in little 
  Audrey!  I'm so glad you followed your heart and didn't take the advice 
  of your vet!  If you take a look at our archives, (you could probably do 
  a search on "mixing"), you see that a great many folks on the list mix their 
  negs and pos.  I no longer have any felv pos in the house, but when I 
  did, I mixed them too.  Are your other cats vaccinated?  Are they 
  adults?  If so, in our experience there is very little chance of them 
  succumbing to the disease.  Vets warn against mixing for the same reason 
  they advise pts, it's the safest and easiest solution.  Pure 
  ignorance.  It's a real hot button with me.  We're all going to die 
  sometime, why should our little pos friends be denied the chance to live, just 
  because their life spans may be shorter?It sounds like a wonderful 
  solution to have your MIL adopt Audrey.  Bless her heart!  I hope 
  she's as nice in every other way!  If you decide at the outset that you 
  won't be taking extraordinary measures to prolong Audrey's life, should she 
  become terminal, then it doesn't have to be expensive.  There are things 
  you can do to help her stay healthy and happy that won't cost much at 
  all.  Being an indoor, only cat is a great start!  Keeping the 
  stress level down, adding immune boosting supplements and feeding her a high 
  quality diet are the best ways to maintain her health.  Finding a vet 
  that understands their needs and isn't willing to write them off at the first 
  sign of illness is another.  With felv, it's the secondary diseases that 
  take hold that cause the problems, not felv itself.  If you catch things 
  quickly enough, they can recover, they just need extra support because they're 
  immune systems don't allow their bodies to heal themselves as easily.  
  There is also a great possibility that she may have been infected and is in 
  the process of shedding the disease naturally.  She may test neg in the 
  future!As far as having her spayed...  If she were mine, I'd go 
  ahead and do it.  I'd do it now, while she's healthy.  Coming into 
  season is stressful, (at least it has appeared so to me, all the yowling and 
  trying to get out to find a boyfriend).  You certainly don't want to take 
  the chance of her becoming pregnant.  Talk about stressful to the 
  system!  Hideyo had some good advice about insuring her safety during the 
  operation, and once you find that felv friendly vet, they'll understand that 
  add precautions might be necessary.  I'd look for a board certified 
  internist to help you and your MIL with Audrey's care.  One more 
  thing...  Where did Audrey come from?  If there's one intact kitten 
  out there, there are probably more.  You could do them all an enormous 
  favor by getting some help to TNR (trap/neuter/release), the colony.  
  Just think about the sweet angels that weren't as lucky as Audrey in finding 
  their way into your home.Let us know what you've decided.  Ask as 
  many questions as you like.  We're all here to support each other and 
  together we've got an enormous amount of experience and information to 
  share.  Welcome to our group Shana,Ninashana tarver 
wrote:
  

Hi 
Everyone,
 
I am new to the 
group. We found a beautiful sweet little kitty in our yard 3 wks ago that we 
named Audrey. She behaved like a feral cat the first week we had her but is 
now a complete love. She purrs when she hears your voice and jumps into your 
lap for pets. She has 

Re: Lucy--B12 injections

2006-02-11 Thread Nina




Thank you Karen for getting the info to Michelle so quickly!
Nina

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  I buy mine from revival animal health with no prescription
  http://www.revivalanimal.com/Default.asp?bhcd2=1139626865
   
  they are a great source for meds.
   
  see our available orphans at:
  http://members.petfinder.org/~TX418/index.html
Karen 817-453-4888
  




Re: Hi, I'm New to the Group

2006-02-11 Thread Nina




Hi Shana,
Thank you so much for taking in little Audrey!  I'm so glad you
followed your heart and didn't take the advice of your vet!  If you
take a look at our archives, (you could probably do a search on
"mixing"), you see that a great many folks on the list mix their negs
and pos.  I no longer have any felv pos in the house, but when I did, I
mixed them too.  Are your other cats vaccinated?  Are they adults?  If
so, in our experience there is very little chance of them succumbing to
the disease.  Vets warn against mixing for the same reason they advise
pts, it's the safest and easiest solution.  Pure ignorance.  It's a
real hot button with me.  We're all going to die sometime, why should
our little pos friends be denied the chance to live, just because their
life spans may be shorter?

It sounds like a wonderful solution to have your MIL adopt Audrey. 
Bless her heart!  I hope she's as nice in every other way!  If you
decide at the outset that you won't be taking extraordinary measures to
prolong Audrey's life, should she become terminal, then it doesn't have
to be expensive.  There are things you can do to help her stay healthy
and happy that won't cost much at all.  Being an indoor, only cat is a
great start!  Keeping the stress level down, adding immune boosting
supplements and feeding her a high quality diet are the best ways to
maintain her health.  Finding a vet that understands their needs and
isn't willing to write them off at the first sign of illness is
another.  With felv, it's the secondary diseases that take hold that
cause the problems, not felv itself.  If you catch things quickly
enough, they can recover, they just need extra support because they're
immune systems don't allow their bodies to heal themselves as easily. 
There is also a great possibility that she may have been infected and
is in the process of shedding the disease naturally.  She may test neg
in the future!

As far as having her spayed...  If she were mine, I'd go ahead and do
it.  I'd do it now, while she's healthy.  Coming into season is
stressful, (at least it has appeared so to me, all the yowling and
trying to get out to find a boyfriend).  You certainly don't want to
take the chance of her becoming pregnant.  Talk about stressful to the
system!  Hideyo had some good advice about insuring her safety during
the operation, and once you find that felv friendly vet, they'll
understand that add precautions might be necessary.  I'd look for a
board certified internist to help you and your MIL with Audrey's care. 


One more thing...  Where did Audrey come from?  If there's one intact
kitten out there, there are probably more.  You could do them all an
enormous favor by getting some help to TNR (trap/neuter/release), the
colony.  Just think about the sweet angels that weren't as lucky as
Audrey in finding their way into your home.

Let us know what you've decided.  Ask as many questions as you like. 
We're all here to support each other and together we've got an enormous
amount of experience and information to share.  Welcome to our group
Shana,
Nina

shana tarver wrote:

  
  
  Hi
Everyone,
   
  I
am new to the group. We found a beautiful sweet little kitty in our
yard 3 wks ago that we named Audrey. She behaved like a feral cat the
first week we had her but is now a complete love. She purrs when she
hears your voice and jumps into your lap for pets. She has had both the
ELISA and IFA test and sadly both have come back positive. She is 1 yr
old (although she's tiny, 6 lbs) and in perfect heath. We have 2 others
cats that are negative (we have kept her in a separate room). We just
received the results of the IFA today and we are heartbroken. We were
hoping the ELISA was a false pos. Our vet said there is really nothing
we can do to help her. My Mother in Law has offered to give her a home
and has no other cats. I would love suggestions on our next step with
her and any success stories you may have. Also, we need to have her
spayed but I am worried about doing it. Any thoughts?
   
  thanks
so much,
  Shana
- Toulouse, Pollock and Audrey





Manual

2006-02-11 Thread Lomaxturtle
Yes I got it thanks Wendy. Haven't read it yet though.

Thanks

Michelle, Minstrel, Buddy & Angel Bramble