Re: Daughter's Kitty...CLS
I'm so sorry about Gutt. Please tell Julie she is in my prayers as are all of you. I'm glad you had a service for him and for yourselves to say goodbye.Gina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Belinda, Can you add my daughter's kitty "Gutt" to the Candlelight Services? My daughter's name is Julie. Gutt was 8-9 yrs old. He was an awesome Maine Coon mix I adored him ever since he was a baby.I had noticed that he was acting strange and losing weight. He was losing control of his hind legs. Also, loose bowels and the fact that his zest for life was gone he was crying. I had also noticed this for the last few days was hoping he had just a bad tummy. This was so sudden. My gut feeling was he had a mass growing and thought it was a tumor. He lost 3 pounds in the since last month. (She weighed him every month) I told her he needed to go to the Vet A.S.A.P. so she called was able to get in to seeone of my favorite Vetsthis evening.Sadly to say he had a huge mass the size of a baseball growing in stomach. My daughter decided to let him goto the"Rainbow Bridge" because she didn't have the money to pay for added expenses due to her divorce and being a single parent. She told me that she wanted him to go peacefully and his quality of life is what mattered not quantity. She wasn't thinking about herself only about him she didn't want him to suffer. She didn't want him to endure all the medical treatments with his chances being slim of survival. I'm proud of her for making that decision even though it was hard on her.My husband and I would have helped her in this matter. She didn't want him to suffer. Julieloved him with all her heart. So she brought him home and we buried him next to "Sam" that I lost back in March. My husband dugged the hole for him. This man had recent shoulder surgery but it didn't matter. He loved Gutt as well. We read the Rainbow Bridge and a prayer to him. Laid him to rest. We all hugged and cried in each other arms. This was about an hour and a half ago. My husband also said that he was going to build a special fence around the area we have for all the futurefurangels that pass on to the Rainbow Bridge. Yes, we have a Pet Cemetery on our new property. Which is under a beautifulmaple tree.Thanks for hearing me out... :(Terrie Mohr-ForkerTAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTSSIAMESE COLLIE RESCUEDonations accepted at:https://www.paypal.com/http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescuehttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.htmlhttp://www.felineleukemia.org/http://www.hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.htmlhttp://www.petloss.com/Visit my Tigger Tales site! Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. Yahoo! Small Business.
Re: Angel Peanut
Hi Nina, Peanut came to us mid-July, with 2 of her companions from a bad situation. The other 2 gained weight, but Peanut did not. She was obsessed with food, though, she ate, so my first suspicion was hyper-T, as she had already tested negative for intestinal parasites. I never imagined that it would turn out to be something like this, so I've been in quite a state of shock. Our vet said that cancer can sometimes cause an increased appetite, b/c basically the cancer is sapping all the calories nutrients from the cat, so the cat tries to eat more to compensate. They said this probably started before I had her that there was likely nothing I could have done to have changed the outcome, especially with an 18 year old cat. I'm trying not to second guess myself but it's hard. I know, though, that Peanut would not want me to beat up on myself, so for her sake, I'm trying not to. I know it will get better with time. Thank you so much for your thoughts. The support of others really helps when it comes to coping with times like these. Yvonne In a message dated 10/2/2006 5:53:26 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dear Yvonne,I'm so sorry about your little Peanut. It sounds like you did everything possible to help her and your final decision, was of course difficult for you, but the kindest one for her. Do your best to not second guess yourself, she was ready to move on or she wouldn't have stopped swallowing like that. I know how hard it is to let go of the hope for a miracle, but she no longer needs you to fret about her care. You gave her a wonderful life and right up until her last breath you did your best to make wise and unselfish decisions based on what was best for her. Didn't I read that she was healthy and strong until this final illness overcame her? That's the sort of life and passing that I pray for for all those I love. I hope you can take some comfort in knowing how grateful she must be to have been such an important member of your family. Nina
Re: A little more on Spencer
LOL! That little Stinker! I love it when mine are eating their canned food one reaches out a paw snatches the dish right out from under the nose of another. They crack me up! Yvonne In a message dated 10/2/2006 8:15:31 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: He was reaching his paw into her cage to scoop out some of her dry food!
Re: Angel Peanut
Thank you, Cindy. Yvonne In a message dated 10/2/2006 9:07:52 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am so sorry to hear about your precious Peanut and Iam sorry you had to make that decision. You are in myprayers.Cindy
Re: Angel Peanut
Thank you...it means a lot to me. Yvonne In a message dated 10/2/2006 10:14:26 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yvonne, I am so sorry to hear about Peanut.
Re: OT: Crackers wins the Oct 2006 Cute Kitty Contest!
Thank you! I was silently thinking "pick Cracker, pick Crackers!" And was so happy when my husband did.Gina Belinda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gina,Love your website!! Yaa Crackers, such a cute photo.-- Belindahappiness is being owned by cats ...Be-Mi-Kittieshttp://bemikitties.comPost Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittenshttp://adopt.bemikitties.comFeLV Candlelight Servicehttp://bemikitties.com/clsHostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design]http://HostDesign4U.comBMK Designs [non-profit animals websites]http://bmk.bemikitties.comVisit my Tigger Tales site! Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1ยข/min.
Re: Hello Everyone, a not so brief update
The way you look at things is a real inspiration to me Nina. I am so glad that Spence has you in his life and he obviously brings so much joy to yours. Every moment you have with him is a cherished gift.Gina Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you Gina. It's the strangest thing with Spencer... Everytime I think he's down for the count, (beginning with his disappearing act that horrible day), he bounces back. Having accepted his fate when I thought he'd crawled away to die has given me a strange sort of peace about him. It's like all the time we've spent together since starting his dex shots are gravy. I'm so grateful for this time together, prepared for his passing, and yet somehow I'm still remaining optimistic that this is all just a big mistake and he's going to rebound and be with me a very long time. Maybe all that spiritual work with the Serenity prayer is finally paying off! The last few nights he's been sleeping in my bed, something he never did before. It's such a pleasure to reach down and pet his skinny body next to mine. What a marvel this guy is! Yesterday he spent the entire day loose in the bedroom with my PTSD kitty, Matilda. I can't believe he's making such a difference in the lives around him while his time is seemingly winding down. I feel so blessed to have him in my life.NinaGina WN wrote: Nina, I'm glad to hear from you. Thoughts and prayers are with Spence and you. GinaVisit my Tigger Tales site! Stay in the know. Pulse on the new Yahoo.com. Check it out.
Re: OT: Why is this list so nice?
I like the layout ofyour site. What kind of cat graphic do you have in mind. I would like to help you find one if you would like.Gina Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Hi Belinda,I am planning to open an account on Petfinder. Right now all the kitties I have belong to another rescue group (the one I won't be working with any more). I am filing my incorporation papers with the state this week. Then I will start working on my 501(c)3. I have an initial website up, though I need to get a cat graphic to replace the flower graphic. Feel free to have a look, though all my links do not work yet. http://www.rescuties.org I was really talking about how to keep the list for the rescue group positive though. Most other animal lists I am on have a lot of fighting.Thanks!Kelley On 10/2/06, Belinda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Hi Kelley,My suggestion would be to open a Petfinder account for a website,they are world renown and it is fairly easy to get a site and it is free.Here is the page that posts their requirements for a website, I'dbe happy to help:http://www.petfinder.com/register/index.html--Belindahappiness is being owned by cats ...Be-Mi-Kittieshttp://bemikitties.comPost Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittenshttp://adopt.bemikitties.comFeLV Candlelight Servicehttp://bemikitties.com/clsHostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design]http://HostDesign4U.comBMK Designs [non-profit animals websites]http://bmk.bemikitties.com-- Vist the Austin Siamese Rescue store and save a kitty life!http://www.cafepress.com/austinsiamesehttp://astore.amazon.com/austinsiamese-20 Visit my Tigger Tales site! Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail.
Re: Daughter's Kitty...CLS
Terrie, I am so sorry to hear about Julie losing her precious kitty Gutt. My prayers go out to her to Gutt. He is in great company at the Bridge. Yvonne
Re: Samantha/Good News
How old is Sammy again? My Buddy was FIV+ and had dental issues. He was 16 years old the last time he had his teeth cleaned and a few teeth pulled. He went through the anesthesia just fine. He was in really good health despite the FIV though.What does your "gut" say about puttingSammy through anesthesia?:) Gina SamilukeMon, 02 Oct 2006 00:43:05 -0700 Thanks, Kayte...she ate this morning tonite, too. Yay Sammy! I think it's time for another dental for her, but I'm always nervous about anesthesia at her age. Visit my Tigger Tales site! Do you Yahoo!? Get on board. You're invited to try the new Yahoo! Mail.
Re: OT: Crackers wins the Oct 2006 Cute Kitty Contest!
Thank you! By the way, Tigger and Taylor turned 14 years oldSunday. :) I can't believe it was that long ago that I found them in a wall and hand reared them. It makes me want to cry with happiness for all the wonderful years we've had together, and I hope to be blessed with more time.Gina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Congrats to Kayte Crackers!! I just wanted to reach into the picture rub that tummy! I enjoyed the pics of your furkids, too, Gina. You have some adorable babies!YvonneIn a message dated 10/2/2006 1:22:07 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:Hi Everyone,I wanted to let you know that Kayte's darlingcat Crackers won the October 2006 Cute Kitty Contestat my Tigger Tales site. I had my husband judge so it would be unbiased. (He doesn't know whose kitties are whose!) :) You can see Crackers' winning picture at Tigger Tales.GinaVisit my Tigger Tales site! Stay in the know. Pulse on the new Yahoo.com. Check it out.
Re: Hello Everyone, a not so brief update
Nina, just my opinion but I would not cut back on the dex amounts. I do not think that Spencer has a long time. There are always miracles, but large cell lymphoma on only steroids does not usually go that long-- six months I have heard of on the dex/depo combo shots, but that is really an outside bet. How long has it been now since he got sick? It could be providence, but I think it is the dex that is helping, and the extra dex that made him do better. How much did you up it by? I really would not cut back that much. He might crash. I cut back some on pred with my Josephine when she had lymphoma (no chemo) and she really crashed. Maybe you could give him the extra every other day and the .4 every other day. Is that what you were saying you are doing? More prayers, Michelle In a message dated 10/2/2006 8:16:47 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hey Michelle,I'm sorry that your sleep habits are as bad as mine, but it's kind of comforting knowing that you're up in the wee hours with me. Thank you so much for keeping me and Spence in your thoughts. I did up the dosage a little for a while, (thanks to your reassuring post about it being all right to do so). Last night I actually cut the dose because Spencer seems to be doing so well and I'd like to see if I can start weaning him off. He hadn't eaten but a few bites of kibble in days and then last night he scarfed a small bowl of wet food! I don't want to go to an eod protocol just yet, so I'm going to try to half his dose eod and see how he reacts. I can't tell if it's Divine providence or the steroid shots that are keeping him around. This guy is so amazing. He's back to occasionally jumping on counters and following me outside for time in the yard. It's that same old roller coaster we always go through, but I can't shake the hope that somehow he's going to recover. With that hope in mind I don't want to cause complications with long term steroid use. I was going through some IBD archive posts and remembered how IBD kitties are sometimes kept on Pred for months and months without complications from side effects. When I first put Gypsy on Pred, it was suggested that we try Dex instead. Do you know if the reactions are the same?How is your Lucy doing? I've been looking for updates, but I'm so far behind on the list that I doubt I'll be able to catch up.Keep those prayers coming!Nina
Re: Daughter's Kitty...CLS
Terry, Tell your daughter prayers are going out for her; she's going through a tough time. I'm sorry she lost her beloved Gutt. When it rains, it pours... :) Wendy --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Belinda, Can you add my daughter's kitty Gutt to the Candlelight Services? My daughter's name is Julie. Gutt was 8-9 yrs old. He was an awesome Maine Coon mix I adored him ever since he was a baby. I had noticed that he was acting strange and losing weight. He was losing control of his hind legs. Also, loose bowels and the fact that his zest for life was gone he was crying. I had also noticed this for the last few days was hoping he had just a bad tummy. This was so sudden. My gut feeling was he had a mass growing and thought it was a tumor. He lost 3 pounds in the since last month. (She weighed him every month) I told her he needed to go to the Vet A.S.A.P. so she called was able to get in to see one of my favorite Vets this evening. Sadly to say he had a huge mass the size of a baseball growing in stomach. My daughter decided to let him go to the Rainbow Bridge because she didn't have the money to pay for added expenses due to her divorce and being a single parent. She told me that she wanted him to go peacefully and his quality of life is what mattered not quantity. She wasn't thinking about herself only about him she didn't want him to suffer. She didn't want him to endure all the medical treatments with his chances being slim of survival. I'm proud of her for making that decision even though it was hard on her. My husband and I would have helped her in this matter. She didn't want him to suffer. Julie loved him with all her heart. So she brought him home and we buried him next to Sam that I lost back in March. My husband dugged the hole for him. This man had recent shoulder surgery but it didn't matter. He loved Gutt as well. We read the Rainbow Bridge and a prayer to him. Laid him to rest. We all hugged and cried in each other arms. This was about an hour and a half ago. My husband also said that he was going to build a special fence around the area we have for all the future furangels that pass on to the Rainbow Bridge. Yes, we have a Pet Cemetery on our new property. Which is under a beautiful maple tree. Thanks for hearing me out... :( Terrie Mohr-Forker TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS SIAMESE COLLIE RESCUE Donations accepted at: _https://www.paypal.com/_ (https://www.paypal.com/) _http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/_ (http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/) _http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescue_ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescue) _http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.html_ (http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.html) _http://www.felineleukemia.org/_ (http://www.felineleukemia.org/) _http://www.hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.html_ (http://www.hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.html) _http://www.petloss.com/_ (http://www.petloss.com/) __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: OT: Why is this list so nice?
I think the horrible grief we all have felt fighting for our FeLV babies, and losing many of them, binds us together in ways that the rescue groups may not experience. The grief humbles us and enables us to care gently for one another through identification. You may not be able to reproduce that in a different scenario. On another note, you could require anyone posting on your site to read a rescue bill of rights or the like where you lay out that everyone will be respectful of one another regardless of their beliefs. It might help. :) Wendy --- Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Belinda, I am planning to open an account on Petfinder. Right now all the kitties I have belong to another rescue group (the one I won't be working with any more). I am filing my incorporation papers with the state this week. Then I will start working on my 501(c)3. I have an initial website up, though I need to get a cat graphic to replace the flower graphic. Feel free to have a look, though all my links do not work yet. http://www.rescuties.org I was really talking about how to keep the list for the rescue group positive though. Most other animal lists I am on have a lot of fighting. Thanks! Kelley On 10/2/06, Belinda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Kelley, My suggestion would be to open a Petfinder account for a website, they are world renown and it is fairly easy to get a site and it is free. Here is the page that posts their requirements for a website, I'd be happy to help: http://www.petfinder.com/register/index.html -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com -- Vist the Austin Siamese Rescue store and save a kitty life! http://www.cafepress.com/austinsiamese http://astore.amazon.com/austinsiamese-20 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Angel Peanut
Yvonne, I'm so sorry to hear about little Peanut. She was so lucky to have you loving her until she passed. :) Wendy --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just wanted to thank everyone for their good wishes prayers. Unfortunately, the antibiotics fluids did not get any response. They tried to syringe feed Peanut at the vet she wasn't even swallowing. At that point, they decided it was more likely to be cancer (lymphoma) that was causing the problem not hepatitis. They did not feel that there was any chance to turn things around. I brought her home overnight held her, talked to her prayed, prayed, prayed for either a miracle or the strength to let her go. I really thought she would pass at home, but by 5:00 on Friday, she was still with us seemed to be getting into quite a bit of pain and/or discomfort, so we decided to make the trip to the vet to help her to the Bridge. It was so hard it just seems so wrong that we only got 2 and half months with her. She's a beautiful calico girl with the most gorgeous emerald green eyes. I will miss her climbing up my pant legs whenever I was doing anything that involved food...she had so much personality. I just hope to God that I did the right thing. Belinda, can you please add Peanut to the Bridge list? Thank you all for being there. Yvonne Angel Peanut __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Daughter's Kitty...CLS
Terri, I'm so sorry. GLOW to light Gutt's path and ease your hearts...[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Belinda, Can you add my daughter's kitty "Gutt" to the Candlelight Services? My daughter's name is Julie. Gutt was 8-9 yrs old. He was an awesome Maine Coon mix I adored him ever since he was a baby. I had noticed that he was acting strange and losing weight. He was losing control of his hind legs. Also, loose bowels and the fact that his zest for life was gone he was crying. I had also noticed this for the last few days was hoping he had just a bad tummy. This was so sudden. My gut feeling was he had a mass growing and thought it was a tumor. He lost 3 pounds in the since last month. (She weighed him every month) I told her he needed to go to the Vet A.S.A.P. so she called was able to get in to seeone of my favorite Vetsthis evening. Sadly to say he had a huge mass the size of a baseball growing in stomach. My daughter decided to let him goto the"Rainbow Bridge" because she didn't have the money to pay for added expenses due to her divorce and being a single parent. She told me that she wanted him to go peacefully and his quality of life is what mattered not quantity. She wasn't thinking about herself only about him she didn't want him to suffer. She didn't want him to endure all the medical treatments with his chances being slim of survival. I'm proud of her for making that decision even though it was hard on her. My husband and I would have helped her in this matter. She didn't want him to suffer. Julieloved him with all her heart. So she brought him home and we buried him next to "Sam" that I lost back in March. My husband dugged the hole for him. This man had recent shoulder surgery but it didn't matter. He loved Gutt as well. We read the Rainbow Bridge and a prayer to him. Laid him to rest. We all hugged and cried in each other arms. This was about an hour and a half ago. My husband also said that he was going to build a special fence around the area we have for all the futurefurangels that pass on to the Rainbow Bridge. Yes, we have a Pet Cemetery on our new property. Which is under a beautifulmaple tree. Thanks for hearing me out... :( Terrie Mohr-ForkerTAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTSSIAMESE COLLIE RESCUEDonations accepted at:https://www.paypal.com/http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescuehttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.htmlhttp://www.felineleukemia.org/http://www.hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.htmlhttp://www.petloss.com/Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito"My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile."- Anonymous Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. Yahoo! Small Business.
Re: Felv and Feline Interferon
Hi Nina, Glad to have you back online, you were missed! Haven't had enough caffeine today, what is a "GSD"? Glad to here he did well, I think Moxy will too, she's a little tuffie and absolutely lives up to her name. I've been sleeping with her on the floor every few nights when my old middle-aged joints can stand it, playing with her in the evening and allowing her supervised visits with her brothers during their quiet time. Otherwise, she has free run of the spare bedroom, we took all the furniture out and put it in the frontroom so there would be nothing to jump on and no need for a cage. Still, she's anxious to be free again. Another week and she can start coming out a bit, though we'll have to lock up our adult kitty, Blue, while Moxy is out. Blue is fascinated with the kittens but is just not getting the "play nice" thing. She was chasing them all over the house, cornering them, hissing, and slapping the poor dears. Or laying in wait on tall pieces of furniture for them to come walking by unawares, when she would drop straight down on them like a leopard from a tree. She doesn't bite, she thinks it is all a great game, but she's scaring the out of the babies, so I've had to start locking her up during the day for their sanity. I bought some feliway spray to try, but the only difference I can see is that she doesn't hiss at them anymore and she has an absolute look of joy on her face as she does a flying superman leap into the room, hoping to land on one :oP. Thanks for the info. on the feline interferon, I can't afford it at this point, but will bringit up with my vet at Will's next visit for blood work(and maybe neutering, though this scares me).I don't want to offend her, but I'm going to ask if she will refer him to an internest after the surgery, as her knowledge of this treatment is limited.The only reason Iknew to push herto starthim on the alpha int. was because of all the wonderful information from you folks on this site. Perhaps the FDA packet and thehard numbers from that study I found will be enough to convince her (or the internest)to try the omega. Thanks again, and best wishes forSpencer'sgood days to continue through October. Beth
Re: Felv and Feline Interferon
Beth, your description of Blue is hilarious. I love it. Leslie -From: Gary Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Felv and Feline InterferonHi Nina, Glad to have you back online, you were missed!Haven't had enough caffeine today, what is a GSD?Glad to here he did well, I think Moxy will too, she's a little tuffie and absolutely lives up to her name.I've been sleeping with her on the floor every few nights when my old middle-aged joints can stand it, playing with her in the evening and allowing her supervised visits with her brothers during their quiet time.Otherwise, she has free run of the spare bedroom, we took all the furniture out and put it in the frontroom so there would be nothing to jump on and no need for a cage.Still, she's anxious to be free again.Another week and she can start coming out a bit, though we'll have to lock up our adult kitty, Blue, while Moxy is out.Blue is fascinated with the kittens but is just not getting the play nice thing.She was chasing them all over the house, cornering them, hissing, and slapping the poor dears.Or laying in wait on tall pieces of furniture for them to come walking by unawares, when she would drop straight down on them like a leopard from a tree.She doesn't bite, she thinks it is all a great game, but she's scaring the out of the babies, so I've had to start locking her up during the day for their sanity.I bought some feliway spray to try, but the only difference I can see is that she doesn't hiss at them anymore and she has an absolute look of joy on her face as she does a flying superman leap into the room, hoping to land on one :oP. Thanks for the info. on the feline interferon, I can't afford it at this point, but will bring it up with my vet at Will's next visit for blood work (and maybe neutering, though this scares me).I don't want to offend her, but I'm going to ask if she will refer him to an internest after the surgery, as her knowledge of this treatment is limited.The only reason I knew to push her to start him on the alpha int. was because of all the wonderful information from you folks on this site.Perhaps the FDA packet and the hard numbers from that study I found will be enough to convince her (or the internest) to try the omega. Thanks again, and best wishes for Spencer's good days to continue through October. Beth
Beatrix and Satchmo update
Nina, So good to have you back. I've been thinking a lot of you and Spencer while you weren't able to write. I'm so glad that you've won this time with him (we're winning, we're winning!) - each battle is a war, you have every reason to celebrate and hope. (I do agree with Michelle, though, keep on with the Dex - deal with the next turn when it comes, we're not approaching long term yet.) Iknow that you and yours will make the best decision about the pups and have the wisdom to be okay with whatever that turns out to be. You ballast the crew, so acknowledging the benefit that the young ones gave your sheperd, and then how the peace will be good too, is just as acceptable as deciding that the universe tends toward chaos anyway (that's the2nd Law of Thermodynamics, so I have proof on this one!) so why fight it? Anyway, the Great Cat Meet went down so smoothly and the roly poly cats have not stopped yet. Funny because Satch is three times bigger than her, so she just launches herself at him in whatever manner she can.The best is when they are at stand off (you know, both a foot apart, one paw raised, ready and waiting for the next flurry of action) and she jumps into him, wrapping all four paws around him as she's so small, and off they go. He takes the high road in their gallomping trans-apartment travails and she goes under things as he's too big to take her route and she's too small to make the leaps he pulls off. I wish that I knew how to get pictures to you guys, because they are really too cute. She's like a younger sibling, following him everywhere, to the scratching post, into the litterbox, when he drinks water, she drinks water, etc. The only thing that she won't let him do is sleep. But he is much calmer now than he was, less clingy (though still cuddly), it's nice to see him get all of his energy out and happy. About Satch's cough, the vet determined it to be asthma instigated by the URI, so we're treating for that and it's going well. Anyone with tips about asthmatic cats, please pipe in! Leslie From: Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: Those who don't use Interferon So, Leslie,Tell us do!How did the introductions go??Hideyo, what side effects are you talking about with interferon use?Iknow you mentioned that before, but I hadn't heard any other mention of it.Every vet I've talked to has either been for it's use, or at leastbeen convinced that it wasn't harmful in any way.I've always used human interferon when my cats become symptomatic.Because of the resistance factor, I thought it was better, (just in case it does help boost their immune response), to use it when they need itmost.Gloria could be right in using it continuously.Who the hellknows?The unpredictability of this disease keeps us guessing andrelying on instinct and faith to do our best to combat it. Nina
Re: OT Why is this group so nice
Unfortunately, there are a lot of people in rescue who think that this is the way it is and we don't want to hear any differently. The group I was working with recently took in some FELV+ kittens. I tried to refer them here (which was probably a bad idea because when I mentioned that some people mix + and - cats they had a fit and called yall irresponsible and a whole bunch of other stuff), but they wouldn't come. I gave them some more current information on FELV but they do not want to hear it. There is a section in the corporate bylaws (supposedly - I've never seen them myself) that mandates the following: It is sprea through any bodily fluids, saliva, feces, urine - therefore water bowls, food bowls, bedding, litter boxes and litter, toys, anything!If we get one (FELV+)for an overnight we use totally disposable pads, beds, dishes, litter boxes and toys. Then everything is bagged and put out to trash.The cages or carriers are bleach washed and mediphene wiped down.This group also does not allow mixing of FIV+ and - cats, and will not adopt an FIV+ cat to a person with FIV- cats in the house. One of many reasons I am leaving. Kelley On 10/2/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow Nina that is terrible Re: My mentor in rescue dropped me out of her life cold when she learned that the litter of bottle babies I rescued had felv and I refused to euthanise them upon diagnosis. My mouth still gapes open when I think about the irony of her being disappointed in me! Sometimes I think people come into our lives for a reason for a short time thenthey are just destined to leave it. You are a Great person I am glad you refused to euthanise and bottle fed and listened to your heart. As for anyone thinking anything bad about this group my mouth gapes open! This group saved me from a nervous breakdown. When crackers was diagnosed Felv Pos, I had no clue what it was what to expect. Even at a time when you all where dealing with your sick babies you all help me! I have gained all my knowledge from this group! Starting with Belinda who told me about this and her Bailey. (Her story is my inspiration) You are all the BEST!! Hope all kitties are good! kayte and Crackers!-- Vist the Austin Siamese Rescue store and save a kitty life!http://www.cafepress.com/austinsiamese http://astore.amazon.com/austinsiamese-20
Re: timing on FeLV+ test
Are you saying Oreo got it from Ellie, but now he doesn't have it any more??tKathi Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, Tonya. This has given me something to think about. I haven't had the other ones tested again and I don't think I will. My vet said if she was in my situation she would retest only if I brought them in for an illness on down the road. If Ellie tests negative on the IFA on October 13, I'll mix her with the others. If she doesn't, I may still integrate her. Is that taking a big risk with the 1-year-olds, though? As I said, Oreo, who's 1, became infected by Ellie and I know if I mix the two again, they'll have a great deal of one-on-one contact. Oreo and Connie have a lot of contact now and if Oreo contracts it again, does that put Connie at risk? Sorry so many questions. I'm just a nervous mother and FeLV is so new to me.I would miss Ellie so if I found her another home and would always be worried if she was happy or not and taken care of. I just am concerned that if she has health issues in the future, I can't financially handle the big vet bills. Perhaps someone else who's better off financially could give her a happy home, too. But the odds of finding someone who is better off financially are small, I know. So, it's just wait and see, like everything else in life. I try not to panic anymore.This is the best site. I've learned more from all of you than I have from my vet. I wonder if she knows she shouldn't have tested Ellie with the IFA so soon after the ELISSA. I don't see that vet any longer.KathiFrom: catatonya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: timing on FeLV+ testDate: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 05:49:35 -0700 (PDT)If I were in your situation I would mix. BUT I would not be second guessing myself if one of the others happens to turn up positive down the line. Unless you've had your other cats recently tested they couled be positive right now. Cats can harbor the virus for years. So in my opinion I would mix if all my other cats' leukemia shots were up to date. After 10 years of no one catching felv from my positives I've stopped vaccinating for it every year. tonyaKathi Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: Althea, 13Tabitha, 11Bear, 5Oreo, 1Connie, 1 From: catatonya Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: timing on FeLV+ test Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 19:31:42 -0700 (PDT) How old are the other 5? Kathi Clark wrote: Are you all saying that if my 5 kitties have been vaccinated and boostered for FeLV (July 2006) that Ellie, my FeLV+ kitty, can join them now I have her separated and planned to keep her separated from the others until I get the results of her IFA on October 13. October 13 will be 120 days from the first positive IFA; she tested positive on the ELISSA a month before that. Even if she's still positive after the second IFA, is it okay to integrate her with the others? I have one kitty who would wrestle and hiss and spit playfully with her because he already has. Oreo tested positive on the ELISSA after contact with Ellie but tested negative on his IFA a month later. I now know that the vet retested him too soon but I'm too scared to have him retested with another IFA. I couldn't bear to know that my boy, my favorite, is still infected. I'd rather not know. Right after the negative IFA, I added Oreo to the bunch. Ellie, on the other hand, is a different story. I need to know what to do before I integrate her. She's SO very lonely in a bedroom all by herself. I just would feel like a horrible mother if any of my others came down with FeLV and it was because of Ellie. Please tell me what to do. I want the best for everyone -- me, my negs and my one positive! Kathi
Re: [Fwd: I need a fiv felv home today or Dodger will die. Please HELP!!]
If that 4 pm deadline and Michigan area code are for real, it's already too late. It is now almost 8 pm on the east coast.Assuming the cat has not already been pts, I would suggest vaccinating the FeLV- cat and encourage the people to learn more about FIV and FeLV. But this may all be a moot point by now.Belinda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Original Message Subject: I need a fiv felv home today or Dodger will die. Please HELP!!Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2006 13:55:06 -0400From: Christine Parsons [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello, I am in desperate need of help.We have two cats - only one of which has been tested positive for both FIV AND FeLV. My husband doesn't want to put the uninfected cat at risk and is encouraging me to have the infected cat put down. (besides being of no desire to "deal" with it at all )I can't live with that decision. My vet is holding the infected cat until 4 or so today until I give them our decision...I hope to instead of being responsible for his early end, to be on my way to your facility...please call me, Christine back ASAP at 989-5600-5906Thank You! Christine :) Get today's hot entertainment gossip -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ...Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.comPost Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.comFeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/clsHostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.comBMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: OT Why is this group so nice
Unfortunately it does boil down to who we just pick to rescue. I'm trying to decide right now whether to take in another positive. My decision is the life or death decision for this cat. I just found a dog, and I know I have no business even considering bringing in another cat. It makes me mad that I am the one that has to make these kinds of decisions almost daily. well daily, really, becausepeople won't justspay and neuter their animals.I don't know where you live, but I know where the best cat vet in Atlanta is.tIoana-Dina Rican [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Isn't this ironic how the destiny of those hopeless animals is chosen by humans? And how these decisions are taken? Then why does the "rescue" word exist if "we" just pick and choose who do we save? I don't know on which part of the planet you are because since I've been here in Atlanta I met only people that abandoned their pets, vets willing to put downpets just because they carry a virus, and I am just stunned by the actions of people towards animals. I think too that this group is the best, helps me keep my sanity, and gives me a hope that good people are still around. Good for you you didn't put down the babies. I would have done the same thing. I worked with a rescue group too and they made me put down a feral cat that had half of his body flat, probably a car run him over. They said the cat had no chance of getting better, the vet could not even look at him. Still I suffered a lot. After some months they came with the same idea about another cat that I rescued and I refused. She passed away two months ago after two years of being rescued . Ioana [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow Nina that is terrible Re:My mentor in rescue dropped me out of her life cold when she learned that the litter of bottle babies I rescued had felv and I refused to euthanise them upon diagnosis. My mouth still gapes open when I think about the irony of her being disappointed in me!Sometimes I think people come into our lives for a reason for a short time thenthey are just destined to leave it. You are a Great person I am glad you refused to euthanise and bottle fed and listened to your heart. As for anyone thinking anything bad about this group my mouth gapes open! This group saved me from a nervous breakdown. When crackers was diagnosed Felv Pos, I had no clue what it was what to expect. Even at a time when you all where dealing with your sick babies you all help me! I have gained all my knowledge from this group! Starting with Belinda who told me about this and her Bailey. (Her story is my inspiration) You are all the BEST!! Hope all kitties are good! kayte and Crackers! Do you Yahoo!?Get on board. You're invited to try the new Yahoo! Mail.
Re: [Fwd: I need a fiv felv home today or Dodger will die. Please HELP!!]
That email was sent this morning but I didn't get it in my mail box until right when I sent it, I was horrified that it probably was too late already. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: [Fwd: I need a fiv felv home today or Dodger will die. Please HELP!!]
perhaps we should find out, just in casekelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 07:06 PM 10/3/2006, you wrote:BelindaPlease pass on my dismay at waiting until it was too late...and our dismay at the ignorance and seeming lack of concern on this persons end. It is always hard when we seemed to be faced with a "Take this cat or it will die ultimatum" I feel so sad for the poor cat, but I do not have any sympathy for the owner. It also saddens me that some women are at the mercy of their husbands last word. Have they no voice?Kelly Lane That email was sent this morning but I didn't get it in my mail box until right when I sent it, I was horrified that it probably was too late already.--Belindahappiness is being owned by cats ...Be-Mi-Kittieshttp://bemikitties.comPost Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittenshttp://adopt.bemikitties.comFeLV Candlelight Servicehttp://bemikitties.com/clsHostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design]http://HostDesign4U.comBMK Designs [non-profit animals websites]http://bmk.bemikitties.com--No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.12.12/461 - Release Date: 10/2/2006
Belinda
You accidently put Sheilas name with Dodgers on the CLS.Sorry to bother you.Thank you for having a place for us to remember our sweet babies. Sherry Do you Yahoo!? Get on board. You're invited to try the new Yahoo! Mail.
OT: Photo contest Terrie's Siamese
Please Vote for my Siameses...Tazzy, Vinnie, Ling, and Sam Sam and Ling are no longer with me. They await for me at the bridge. This is a huge contest...we finally made it in. Please Vote! Goodmorning and thank you for your recent photo submission. Your cat's picture has been posted to the Cat Connection website for theOctober 2006 photo contest. Please tell your friends and family to vote for their favorite photo! Remember, only one vote per person.If there is a problem with the picture, name or voting, please let us know ASAP so we can correct the problem. You can follow this link to the contest: http://www.thecatconnection.com/contest/contestants.shtml Good luck!-Maggie, Abby ShadowThe Cat Connection Shop Cats --The Cat Connection14233 Inwood RdDallas, TX 75244972-386-6369866-386-6369 (toll-free)-- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 5:02 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Photo contest Terrie Mohr-ForkerRescued Siamese (Tazzy, Ling, Vinnie, and Sam)Ages from 2 yrs-16 yrs.They all love each other. Where you find one you will find all. Terrie Mohr-ForkerTAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTSSIAMESE COLLIE RESCUEDonations accepted at:https://www.paypal.com/http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescuehttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.htmlhttp://www.felineleukemia.org/http://www.hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.htmlhttp://www.petloss.com/
Fwd: Daughter's Kitty...CLS
Terrie Mohr-ForkerTAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTSSIAMESE COLLIE RESCUEDonations accepted at:https://www.paypal.com/http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescuehttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.htmlhttp://www.felineleukemia.org/http://www.hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.htmlhttp://www.petloss.com/ ---BeginMessage--- Tell all of your friends that I said thank you! :o) It means alot! Their prayers along with my friends' prayers got me thru work today without tears! Julie ---End Message---
Re: OT: Photo contest Terrie's Siamese
Just voted, hope you win!!! Will get your daughters kitty Gutt on the service tomorrow. Please give her my condolences on her loss. Cancer is a horrible disease and kitties are so good at hiding illness that many times it's just to late to do anything. Her baby is watching over her and she will always keep him close in her heart and memories. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: OT: Photo contest Terrie's Siamese
PS. Is that one vote per person for the duration of the contest or per day?? -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: OT: Photo contest Terrie's Siamese
One Vote per Person for One Cat only...one time deal! Good Question! In a message dated 10/3/2006 8:33:44 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: PS. Is that one vote per person for the duration of the contest or per day?? Terrie Mohr-ForkerTAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTSSIAMESE COLLIE RESCUEDonations accepted at:https://www.paypal.com/http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescuehttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.htmlhttp://www.felineleukemia.org/http://www.hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.htmlhttp://www.petloss.com/
