Re: [Felvtalk] Uneven pupils and Shmoo

2013-12-22 Thread Margo
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Re: [Felvtalk] Uneven pupils and Shmoo

2013-12-22 Thread Katherine Kershaw
Hi Margo, 

Thanks for this info. I apologize, but he could have been sedated, I'm not sure 
of the difference so I could be mistaken in my description. We were able to 
'wake' him afterward but he was very groggy for a good part of the night. 

I'll ask about these drugs. I'm also gonna take him with me to Krammer's 
appointment tomorrow (different vet) to ask a few more questions. Thanks!

Katherine

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Re: [Felvtalk] Uneven pupils

2013-12-22 Thread trustinhim13
I have given it to several of my cats from time to time (Clindanycin). I 
didn't know it was bad tasting. My cats tolerated it very well. And with 
mouth sores, I administer it on the side of the mouth with the sore. 
When cats have mouth sores, a liquid works better than pills. It hurts 
less to swallow. I give them liquid vitamins, plus a solution of 
pedialyte and liquid fish oil at the same time.



On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Margo wrote:

Clindrops is likely Clindamycin. It has several trade names, including 
Antirobe. Also comes in little tiny pills. The liquid tastes foul, but 
is better cold, s refrigerate it. Try to follow it with something 
tasty. It is good for mouth issues, as well as abcesses, and some 
types of pneumonia. One I try to keep on hand.



HTH

Margo


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From: trustinhi...@charter.net
Sent: Dec 21, 2013 1:12 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Uneven pupils

I gave my Pookie Clin Drops (short for clin...something). Very 
economical. Works well for infections that are in the mouth or 
tissues. Very economical. I also took him for acupuncture. Carolyn



On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 12:29 AM, Jennifer Lewis wrote:


Hi all,

Off topic or a new one.
My poor Bryyn is having an awful time. Does anyone have experience 
with severe mouth pain? I've been told by vets that she's too young 
for stomatitis, but she's having a horrific time.
My vet prescribed prednisone, but not only does it not seem to help, 
we're leery of it for the long term and honestly can't afford it.


It seemed to be mostly jaw/lymph related as she would freak when 
yawning, but it's getting worse and I'm beside myself. She also has 
awful breath which makes me think as well it may be stomatitis.


Please help!
Jen


On Dec 20, 2013, at 3:42 PM, Lorrie wrote:


One of my cats has uneven pupils, but he is not FelV positive.
He was hit on the head by some low life bastard before I rescued 
him.


Lorrie

On 12-20, gbl...@aristotle.net wrote:
  The only ones I've had with uneven pupils are Felv cats, and 
then only

  a couple.



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Re: [Felvtalk] Uneven pupils

2013-12-22 Thread trustinhim13

praying fro Schmoo


On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 6:24 PM, Katherine K. wrote:

We tapped Shmoo's lungs last night for fluid. Drew out about 90ml 
total. He
had a rough night coming off the anesthesia but was better this 
morning.
Still a little labored in breathing but not as bad as before the tap 
and I

was so glad to see him purring and stretching happily. But he mostly
relaxed/laid around today, unlike his 2 active siblings. Vet said the 
fluid
will likely refill in a few days so we just spend as much time with 
him as
we can while we wait. I'm unable to search the archives right now but 
isn't
there anything else I can do to make the fluid stop? Didn't expect to 
lose

another one so soon after Terence. He's so innocent.

Katherine

On Friday, December 20, 2013, Lance wrote:

Anisocoria can be an indicator of FeLV presence, though I don’t think 
it
indicates progression of the disease in any way that we know about. 
Ember
developed anisocoria almost five years ago, when she was seven. I 
haven’t
taken her to a specialist, but we ruled out toxo. At times, the vet 
has
thought that the pupil has gotten a bit smaller, but I’ve never seen 
a real

change.

Lance

On Dec 20, 2013, at 9:44 AM, Katherine K. 
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wrote:

Hi everyone,

I just noticed my 10 year old FeLV cat, Krammer, has uneven pupils. 
He had
a winky/weepy eye a couple of weeks ago for a few days, where he had 
some
drainage and one eye was squinty with a smaller pupil. It cleared up 
on
it's own after a few days (I give him lysine). A day or two ago it 
came
back, this time the other eye (if I recall correctly). The affected 
eye is
squinty, third eyelid shows a little, and one pupil is small while 
the
other pupil looks normal.  I'm not sure if this is just a herpes 
flare up,
or something else. He first tested positive about 6 months ago. I 
found the

term anisocoria while searching this list archives. Gonna research a
little more.

Second question:
One of my 8 month old FeLV kittens, Shmoo, began having what I would 
call
labored or heavy breathing 2 days ago. I can see his sides and nose 
moving

as he breathes. He is a little less active, and last night he
coughed/wheezed a little and his paw pads, usually pink (he's a white 
cat),
looked slightly purple, like he's not getting enough oxygen. He 
looked pink
again this morning. Gonna take him in, but wanted to mention it here 
too in

case anyone has input.

Thanks,
Katherine
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Re: [Felvtalk] Stomatitis

2013-12-22 Thread trustinhim13
Pookie had his mouth sore on the side down next to his tongue. The vet 
saw it. I didn't. They won't let you look becasue it hurts for them to 
open the



On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 6:27 PM, Jill Eisenbraun wrote:

Hi Jen, stomatitis isn't limited to older cats at all! It can have 
many causes, but cause can be hard to pin down. It's an immune problem 
and also is more common in FIV+ cats. However, other cats can and do 
get it. Some vets feel that it may be caused by calici virus.I have 
one who had severe stomatitis and did end up having a full mouth 
extraction done by a veterinary dental specialist. Very expensive, 
over $4,000 and believe me I am going to be paying for that for a very 
long time! The bad smelling breath is one sign. It's really bad, too! 
Try looking in the mouth, if it is stomatitis you will see really 
angry red inflammation, sometimes it's worse in the throat area.
Also wanted to add my two cents on the small pupil thing. Sounds a lot 
like Horners Syndrome, which is usually linked to an ear problem. The 
very same cat of mine that had the stomatits also had Horners last 
summer. It really isn't harmful and usually clears on its own in a few 
weeks. I treated Stacy's ear infection with OTC medicine and it went 
away.


Jill and kitties

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Re: [Felvtalk] Clindamycin Uneven pupils

2013-12-22 Thread Margo
  I can attest to it's truly foul taste, but YMMV. I tend to avoid anything but 
buprenorphine near a lesion, so use the opposite side, but can't cite anything 
that supports that action. Just seems that a sore mouth would be most painful 
if opened near the source of pain, but again, just my inclination. I know when 
I have a sore at the side of my mouth, I move that side as little as possible 
G.

Margo

-Original Message-
From: trustinhi...@charter.net
Sent: Dec 22, 2013 3:41 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Cc: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Uneven pupils

I have given it to several of my cats from time to time (Clindanycin). I 
didn't know it was bad tasting. My cats tolerated it very well. And with 
mouth sores, I administer it on the side of the mouth with the sore. 
When cats have mouth sores, a liquid works better than pills. It hurts 
less to swallow. I give them liquid vitamins, plus a solution of 
pedialyte and liquid fish oil at the same time.


On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Margo wrote:

 Clindrops is likely Clindamycin. It has several trade names, including 
 Antirobe. Also comes in little tiny pills. The liquid tastes foul, but 
 is better cold, s refrigerate it. Try to follow it with something 
 tasty. It is good for mouth issues, as well as abcesses, and some 
 types of pneumonia. One I try to keep on hand.


 HTH

 Margo


 -Original Message-
 From: trustinhi...@charter.net
 Sent: Dec 21, 2013 1:12 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Uneven pupils

 I gave my Pookie Clin Drops (short for clin...something). Very 
 economical. Works well for infections that are in the mouth or 
 tissues. Very economical. I also took him for acupuncture. Carolyn


 On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 12:29 AM, Jennifer Lewis wrote:

 Hi all,

 Off topic or a new one.
 My poor Bryyn is having an awful time. Does anyone have experience 
 with severe mouth pain? I've been told by vets that she's too young 
 for stomatitis, but she's having a horrific time.
 My vet prescribed prednisone, but not only does it not seem to help, 
 we're leery of it for the long term and honestly can't afford it.

 It seemed to be mostly jaw/lymph related as she would freak when 
 yawning, but it's getting worse and I'm beside myself. She also has 
 awful breath which makes me think as well it may be stomatitis.

 Please help!
 Jen


 On Dec 20, 2013, at 3:42 PM, Lorrie wrote:

 One of my cats has uneven pupils, but he is not FelV positive.
 He was hit on the head by some low life bastard before I rescued 
 him.

 Lorrie

 On 12-20, gbl...@aristotle.net wrote:
   The only ones I've had with uneven pupils are Felv cats, and 
 then only
   a couple.


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