Re: [Felvtalk] Stinky Lancelot is gone

2015-01-01 Thread Katherine K.
Kat, I'm so sorry for the loss of your sweet friend Lancelot. I hope you
find comfort in remembering the good times you shared.
On Dec 29, 2014 1:45 AM, Marsha mar...@lynxe.com wrote:

  Kat, my heart goes out to you and your family in your loss of little
 Lancelot.

 Marsha

 On 12/28/2014 4:16 PM, Kat Parker wrote:

  *Once upon a time, almost 4 years ago, I was fostering for a group,
 which incidentally had major problems later, called Guardian Angels.  I was
 also indie fostering myself, for cats from Downey high kill shelter in LA.
 I had recently pulled a mama with 3 babies that had raging URI, newborn
 kittens with pneumonia, and sadly lost two, though through the magic of the
 nebulizer, one kitten, Kiwi, and Mama Goldie were saved.  Mama was
 despondent for her babies gone, and Guardian Angels brought me two babies,
 different litters.  One, Angelina Jolie, was one day old.  The other, who
 we named Mimi, was one week old.  The woman who brought them to me said I
 should put them with Goldie to see if she would accept them  I did.  Now, I
 am a very experienced bottle feeder, and I could have bottle fed them both,
 and I did supplementally bottle feed them, but Goldie was so happy, and
 cared for the babies all so well, and it was quite a sight those three all
 nursing.  I will NEVER AGAIN place untested babies on an unrelated nursing
 mom, again.  Never. As you can guess, one of the babies was FeLV+,
 unbeknownst to us.  About a month later, I took a cat who was about 8 weeks
 old from Downey, who came with the name, Precious (we called her Isis, or
 just the buzzsaw),and that same week, GA brought me the saddest bunch of
 siblings I had ever seem, pulled by our San Diego firefighters out of a
 well, during a rainstorm.  From what I understand, somebody, apparently,
 had been walking in the rain, and heard some little frantic mews from
 somewhere nearby.  Investigating, they found a covered well, with water
 rising to the top,and kittens inside.  The fire dept responded and freed
 the kittens, turning them over to GA, and then to me.  These babies had
 muck everywhere, and fleas on parts of their bodies you couldn't even see,
 just overrun.  I have pictures its amazing.  But, these were some of the
 friendliest  most endearing kittens I've ever had here, and it wasn't long
 before the two black sisters were adopted out, through GA. Then, the little
 Mimi kitten got really sick and tested positive for FeLV, finally
 euthanized at 8 weeks old.  I tested all of the cats, then, and none who
 came into contact with her were positive.  I didn't know much about the
 disease then.  Boy, I do now.  Well the orange boy, Stinky Lancelot, and
 Angelina Jolie as well as Isis were going to Rescue House, a terrific local
 rescue org here, and they have wonderful protocol there, and tested all
 three kittens.  Sadly, this time, two were positive, Isis neg.  Isis was
 kept iso'd at their vet for an entire month to retest and be sure.  Stinky
 and Angelina came home, and didn't get into RH, although they did pay for
 retest in them, at 60 days, just to be sure they didn't turn negative, as
 so many do.  Isis stayed negative, as did Mama Goldie, and Angelina Jolie,
 my little miracle baby, who later got FIP and died in my arms at a vet, at
 8 months old and Stinky Lancelot stayed positive.  Stinky went to live with
 my mom, who had no other animals then, after her 21 yr old rescued Peekaboo
 kitty passed, and was a perfect fit.  What a ham, what a life!  My son also
 lived there during this time, and the two became best friends.  Two weeks
 ago, Stinky went to my vet as he was not feeling well, and had like little
 pools of blood inside the bottom of both his  eyes.  Bloodwork was done,
 and it was found that he had raging leukemia cancer, severe anemia, with
 his white cell count, especially leukocytes, right through the roof.  As
 this progressed, quickly, I wanted to take him in to gently help him pass,
 but my son was having such a hard time letting go, I wasn't able to.
 Finally, about 1 am dec 26th, David was pounding on my front door, ringing
 the bell like crazy, and woke me.  He said, Stinky is doing bad, he's in
 lots of pain and gramma can't find the pain meds, help him!  So I drove
 there and got him through the night, and next morning we got in to see my
 vet early for euthanization.  But when they tried to put a catheter in, dr
 could find no veins at all.  We had waited too long.  Stinky was completely
 blind with thick cataracts, and one eye was totally filled with blood, om
 the inside.  He was in bad shape, and I was glad we finally were going to
 release him from the suffering. But because my Doctor could not find a
 vein,  they could only sedate him while we were there,and had to wait till
 we left in order to finish the euthanization, which I have a strong
 suspicion was by heartstick, as there really was no other way due to him
 being so emaciated and so far gone.  My son wanted to hold him, 

[Felvtalk] Newly adopted sick babies. Help

2015-01-01 Thread barbe berbes
I have recently adopted  a mommy/son family both tested positive for feline
aids(which is why I adopted them).  I realize theirlifespan is limited and
want to give them the best care   love possible. Love comes easy however I
don't know anything about the disease nor how  to treat it, what signs to
look for that may be a red light for immediate vet trip or new treatment. I
am 59 and have plenty of love and time to devote to my new babies.  Please
help me with websites, advice and ANY other information to help my little
lovelies. Thank you for hearing my plea. God bless all who are fortunate
enough to share moments with kitties who if left in shelters would have a
lonely hard short life.
Barbe Freppon
berbe...@gmail.com
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Re: [Felvtalk] Newly adopted sick babies. Help

2015-01-01 Thread Amy
Are they positive for FIV or leukemia?  Cats can live a very long life with FIV.
Amy
  From: barbe berbes berbe...@gmail.com
 To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
 Sent: Thursday, January 1, 2015 4:28 PM
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Newly adopted sick babies. Help
   
I have recently adopted  a mommy/son family both tested positive for feline 
aids(which is why I adopted them).  I realize theirlifespan is limited and want 
to give them the best care   love possible. Love comes easy however I don't 
know anything about the disease nor how  to treat it, what signs to look for 
that may be a red light for immediate vet trip or new treatment. I am 59 and 
have plenty of love and time to devote to my new babies.  Please help me with 
websites, advice and ANY other information to help my little lovelies. Thank 
you for hearing my plea. God bless all who are fortunate enough to share 
moments with kitties who if left in shelters would have a lonely hard short 
life.
Barbe Freppon 
berbe...@gmail.com
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Re: [Felvtalk] Newly adopted sick babies. Help

2015-01-01 Thread Marsha
There are 2 viruses that impact the feline immune system.  First we need 
to know which one you mean.


FIV = Feline Immunodeficiency Virus
FeLV = Feline Leukemia Virus

Here is a quote about both from the Cornell website:

Virologists classify feline immunodeficiency virus (FIV) as a lentivirus 
(or slow virus). FIV is in the same retrovirus family as feline 
leukemia virus (FeLV), but the viruses differ in many ways including 
their shape. FIV is elongated, while FeLV is more circular. The two 
viruses are also quite different genetically, and the proteins that 
compose them are dissimilar in size and composition. The specific ways 
in which they cause disease differ, as well.


HIV, Human Immunodeficiency Virus, is also a lentivirus, but different 
from both FIV  FeLV, and none can be transmitted between cats and 
humans.  There also has been little to no success using human AIDS drugs 
on cats with FIV/FeLV.


Marsha



On 1/1/2015 3:28 PM, barbe berbes wrote:


I have recently adopted  a mommy/son family both tested positive for 
feline aids(which is why I adopted them).  I realize theirlifespan is 
limited and want to give them the best care   love possible. Love 
comes easy however I don't know anything about the disease nor how  to 
treat it, what signs to look for that may be a red light for immediate 
vet trip or new treatment. I am 59 and have plenty of love and time to 
devote to my new babies.  Please help me with websites, advice and ANY 
other information to help my little lovelies. Thank you for hearing my 
plea. God bless all who are fortunate enough to share moments with 
kitties who if left in shelters would have a lonely hard short life.

Barbe Freppon
berbe...@gmail.com mailto:berbe...@gmail.com




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