Re: [Felvtalk] Wheezing

2015-01-20 Thread Marsha

How long has Krammer been on LTCI?

Marsha

On 1/20/2015 8:32 AM, Katherine K. wrote:

Hi everyone,

I wanted to get your thoughts on a video of Krammer wheezing. He is 
12, has had FeLV for the past 1.5 years. The wheezing has been a 
chronic issue for the past year or so, and I've posted about it 
before, it's usually caused by a case of pneumonia (which my vet tells 
me is rare in cats, but he gets it a lot). On bad days he has a noisy, 
gurgly purr, frequent swallowing, and wheezing spells once or twice a 
day that last for about 30-60 seconds. Eventually the gurgles and 
swallowing will clear up, and he'll only have an occasional wheezing 
spell. He had an ultrasound/echocardiogram about 6 months ago, and an 
xray last month of his lungs which showed the small spot of pneumonia, 
and he took an antibiotic, which helped some.


This weekend his right eye got infected, with green discharge. He's 
had uveitis (one pupil smaller than the other) before, but not in 
awhile. I've been giving him Neomycin/Polymyxin gel since Sunday. He 
gets an LTCI injection (an immune booster) once a month, but I think 
I'll give him another one today. Does anyone else use LTCI?


 Going to check with my vet too, but wanted to see what the listserv 
had to say. Here's the wheezing video: 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Od-nCkzyb0


He's been sleeping a lot the past 2 days, but still has an appetite.

Thanks,
Katherine




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Re: [Felvtalk] Donatello

2015-01-20 Thread Lance
Hi Amy,

Yes, the email about Donatello did go out.

Best regards,

Lance

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 idea why.  Wondering if anybody got my email.
 
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[Felvtalk] Wheezing

2015-01-20 Thread Katherine K.
Hi everyone,

I wanted to get your thoughts on a video of Krammer wheezing. He is 12, has
had FeLV for the past 1.5 years. The wheezing has been a chronic issue for
the past year or so, and I've posted about it before, it's usually caused
by a case of pneumonia (which my vet tells me is rare in cats, but he gets
it a lot). On bad days he has a noisy, gurgly purr, frequent swallowing,
and wheezing spells once or twice a day that last for about 30-60 seconds.
Eventually the gurgles and swallowing will clear up, and he'll only have an
occasional wheezing spell. He had an ultrasound/echocardiogram about 6
months ago, and an xray last month of his lungs which showed the small spot
of pneumonia, and he took an antibiotic, which helped some.

This weekend his right eye got infected, with green discharge. He's had
uveitis (one pupil smaller than the other) before, but not in awhile. I've
been giving him Neomycin/Polymyxin gel since Sunday. He gets an LTCI
injection (an immune booster) once a month, but I think I'll give him
another one today. Does anyone else use LTCI?

 Going to check with my vet too, but wanted to see what the listserv had to
say. Here's the wheezing video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Od-nCkzyb0

He's been sleeping a lot the past 2 days, but still has an appetite.

Thanks,
Katherine
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[Felvtalk] Donatello

2015-01-20 Thread Amy
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Re: [Felvtalk] pregnant FeLV cat

2015-01-20 Thread Katherine K.
Hi Judy, How is Spice doing?

On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 8:48 PM, judith cook jmasse...@yahoo.com wrote:

 All
 Yes, I AM planning to do a spay, if that's what we think is best.  I have
 heard about cats in heat - really devious little devils, and pains in the
 neck.  Really want to get this resolved, and hoping that it works out best
 for my kitty.  Her name is Spice, and she is (no surprise) a tortoiseshell
 with white chest, belly, and paws.  She really looks a lot like another
 tortie I once had - a little jewel also.  Thanks so much for your advice
 and interest.  Will let you know ASAP.
 Judy


   On Thursday, January 15, 2015 3:57 AM, Margo 
 toomanykitti...@earthlink.net wrote:



 Hi Kat
 You're still timely, there will be a meeting with the Vet
 Friday, I believe. I just want to be clear on what I stated, so there is no
 misunderstanding :). I think Kitty should be spayed, not aborted. Leaving
 her intact would be an invitation to a repeat pregnancy, and the stress of
 heat cycles. No matter how careful we are, cats get out, and a cat in heat
 is VERY resourceful! At least with a spay, it's all over with.
 All the best,
 Margo

 -Original Message-
 From: Kat Parker
 Sent: Jan 14, 2015 1:25 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] pregnant FeLV cat

 PLEASE have the abort the kittens. We have our vets here for the
 ​ FCC terminate cats pregnancies up until the time of birth, sometimes. And
 if you have watched many kittens die of FeLV, like I have,you wouldnt wish
 that on them. Not Only born to die,but a terrible death that is
 unnecessary. I realize I am not replying in a timely manner, and I hope
 it is not too late, but please, do the right thing by these kittens.Also,
 in terms of Momma's Stress, no doubt about it, kitten birth, nursing, the
 stress involved,and watching her own kittens die one by one. Please
 terminate this pregnancy.






 *Love and Katnip, ~Kat~ =^,,^= **I'm Kat
 Parker. I park cats.*
 * Spay  neuter your neighbors... maybe THAT will fix the problem.*
 *Keep your kitties INSIDE, 24/7, 'cause an inside cat is a SAFE  HAPPY
 cat!*

 *http://www.facebook.com/kat.theCRITTERprotector
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Re: [Felvtalk] Wheezing

2015-01-20 Thread Marsha
What kind of symptoms did he have before he was diagnosed, and any idea 
how long he might have actually had FeLV?  Just wondering if he might 
have had it all those years, or if it was contracted more recently.


Marsha

On 1/20/2015 9:17 AM, Katherine K. wrote:
Monthly for about 1.5 years, since August 2013, basically since he was 
diagnosed.


On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 10:15 AM, Marsha mar...@lynxe.com 
mailto:mar...@lynxe.com wrote:


How long has Krammer been on LTCI?



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Re: [Felvtalk] Wheezing

2015-01-20 Thread Marsha

What symptoms did he have that led you to have him tested?

Marsha

On 1/20/2015 9:39 AM, Katherine K. wrote:
He hasn't always had the wheezing. He tested negative for FeLV before 
I started fostering kittens several years ago. I fostered one kitten 
who was light positive and eventually turned negative. They were 
separated at first, and only interacted after the kitten turned 
negative. When Krammer tested positive, I had been fostering a litter 
and their mama. Mama had tested negative, so everyone was interacting. 
I got the mama and her litter when they were 2 weeks old. The kittens 
were about 3.5 months old when Krammer became ill. I tested him and he 
came back positive. The kittens were all positive too, and have since 
died. Mama cat got retested (neg), adopted out and is doing fine.
So either they got it from their dad, and passed it on to Krammer, or 
he had a latent infection that just showed up while I had them, and he 
gave it to them. It's hard to know. We retested most of the kittens I 
had fostered before the positive litter (they had been adopted out, so 
we contacted the adopters and offered retesting for free) -- None of 
them came back positive.





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Re: [Felvtalk] Wheezing

2015-01-20 Thread Katherine K.
He hasn't always had the wheezing. He tested negative for FeLV before I
started fostering kittens several years ago. I fostered one kitten who was
light positive and eventually turned negative. They were separated at
first, and only interacted after the kitten turned negative. When Krammer
tested positive, I had been fostering a litter and their mama. Mama had
tested negative, so everyone was interacting. I got the mama and her litter
when they were 2 weeks old. The kittens were about 3.5 months old when
Krammer became ill. I tested him and he came back positive. The kittens
were all positive too, and have since died. Mama cat got retested (neg),
adopted out and is doing fine.
So either they got it from their dad, and passed it on to Krammer, or he
had a latent infection that just showed up while I had them, and he gave it
to them. It's hard to know. We retested most of the kittens I had fostered
before the positive litter (they had been adopted out, so we contacted the
adopters and offered retesting for free) -- None of them came back
positive.

On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 10:31 AM, Marsha mar...@lynxe.com wrote:

  What kind of symptoms did he have before he was diagnosed, and any idea
 how long he might have actually had FeLV?  Just wondering if he might have
 had it all those years, or if it was contracted more recently.

 Marsha

 On 1/20/2015 9:17 AM, Katherine K. wrote:

 Monthly for about 1.5 years, since August 2013, basically since he was
 diagnosed.

 On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 10:15 AM, Marsha mar...@lynxe.com wrote:

 How long has Krammer been on LTCI?



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Re: [Felvtalk] Wheezing

2015-01-20 Thread Katherine K.
Lethargy, not eating, sleeping a lot. I had to assist feed him for a month
or so, combined with several LTCI shots, to get him back to his normal
self.

On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 11:23 AM, Marsha mar...@lynxe.com wrote:

 What symptoms did he have that led you to have him tested?

 Marsha

 On 1/20/2015 9:39 AM, Katherine K. wrote:

 He hasn't always had the wheezing. He tested negative for FeLV before I
 started fostering kittens several years ago. I fostered one kitten who was
 light positive and eventually turned negative. They were separated at
 first, and only interacted after the kitten turned negative. When Krammer
 tested positive, I had been fostering a litter and their mama. Mama had
 tested negative, so everyone was interacting. I got the mama and her litter
 when they were 2 weeks old. The kittens were about 3.5 months old when
 Krammer became ill. I tested him and he came back positive. The kittens
 were all positive too, and have since died. Mama cat got retested (neg),
 adopted out and is doing fine.
 So either they got it from their dad, and passed it on to Krammer, or he
 had a latent infection that just showed up while I had them, and he gave it
 to them. It's hard to know. We retested most of the kittens I had fostered
 before the positive litter (they had been adopted out, so we contacted the
 adopters and offered retesting for free) -- None of them came back positive.



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Re: [Felvtalk] Wheezing

2015-01-20 Thread Katherine K.
Monthly for about 1.5 years, since August 2013, basically since he was
diagnosed.

On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 10:15 AM, Marsha mar...@lynxe.com wrote:

 How long has Krammer been on LTCI?

 Marsha


 On 1/20/2015 8:32 AM, Katherine K. wrote:

 Hi everyone,

 I wanted to get your thoughts on a video of Krammer wheezing. He is 12,
 has had FeLV for the past 1.5 years. The wheezing has been a chronic issue
 for the past year or so, and I've posted about it before, it's usually
 caused by a case of pneumonia (which my vet tells me is rare in cats, but
 he gets it a lot). On bad days he has a noisy, gurgly purr, frequent
 swallowing, and wheezing spells once or twice a day that last for about
 30-60 seconds. Eventually the gurgles and swallowing will clear up, and
 he'll only have an occasional wheezing spell. He had an
 ultrasound/echocardiogram about 6 months ago, and an xray last month of his
 lungs which showed the small spot of pneumonia, and he took an antibiotic,
 which helped some.

 This weekend his right eye got infected, with green discharge. He's had
 uveitis (one pupil smaller than the other) before, but not in awhile. I've
 been giving him Neomycin/Polymyxin gel since Sunday. He gets an LTCI
 injection (an immune booster) once a month, but I think I'll give him
 another one today. Does anyone else use LTCI?

  Going to check with my vet too, but wanted to see what the listserv had
 to say. Here's the wheezing video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?
 v=0Od-nCkzyb0

 He's been sleeping a lot the past 2 days, but still has an appetite.

 Thanks,
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Re: [Felvtalk] Wheezing

2015-01-20 Thread Marsha
Milkdud had an occasional episode like that, but of course never at the 
vet's.  He always sounded fine at the vet, nothing heard on stethoscope, 
blood work good, so it was just left to observation at home to see if it 
got worse.  It was pretty much the same over 4 years, just an occasional 
episode.


Marsha

On 1/20/2015 8:32 AM, Katherine K. wrote:

Hi everyone,

I wanted to get your thoughts on a video of Krammer wheezing. He is 
12, has had FeLV for the past 1.5 years. The wheezing has been a 
chronic issue for the past year or so, and I've posted about it 
before, it's usually caused by a case of pneumonia (which my vet tells 
me is rare in cats, but he gets it a lot). On bad days he has a noisy, 
gurgly purr, frequent swallowing, and wheezing spells once or twice a 
day that last for about 30-60 seconds. Eventually the gurgles and 
swallowing will clear up, and he'll only have an occasional wheezing 
spell. He had an ultrasound/echocardiogram about 6 months ago, and an 
xray last month of his lungs which showed the small spot of pneumonia, 
and he took an antibiotic, which helped some.


This weekend his right eye got infected, with green discharge. He's 
had uveitis (one pupil smaller than the other) before, but not in 
awhile. I've been giving him Neomycin/Polymyxin gel since Sunday. He 
gets an LTCI injection (an immune booster) once a month, but I think 
I'll give him another one today. Does anyone else use LTCI?


 Going to check with my vet too, but wanted to see what the listserv 
had to say. Here's the wheezing video: 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Od-nCkzyb0


He's been sleeping a lot the past 2 days, but still has an appetite.

Thanks,
Katherine




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Re: [Felvtalk] Wheezing

2015-01-20 Thread dlgegg
I NOTICED THAT HE HAS WATERY EYES.  ANNIE HAS STARTED THIS THE LAST MONTH OR 
SO, BUT AFTER VACUMNING, ETC SO I ATTRIBUTED IT TO THAT.  I CALL IT SNEEZING.  
SHE IS NOW NINE, HAS BEEN FELV POSITIVE SINCE I GOT HER AT AGE 4.  SHE 
SOMETIMES SNEEZES AFTER A RUN WITH HARLEY OR SOMEONE ELSE CHASING HER.  SHE HAS 
ALSO BEGUN LICKING AT PARTICULAR SPOTS ON HER LEGS.  SO WE HAVE THE SAME THING. 
 GUESS I NEED TO TAKE HER TO VET FOR TESTS.  YOUR BOY IS SO PRETTY.  IS THIS 
JUST RECENTLY STARTED LIKE ANNIE OR HAS HE DONE THIS A BIT OFF AND ON FOR SOME 
TIME?


 Katherine K. kaths...@gmail.com wrote: 
 Hi everyone,
 
 I wanted to get your thoughts on a video of Krammer wheezing. He is 12, has
 had FeLV for the past 1.5 years. The wheezing has been a chronic issue for
 the past year or so, and I've posted about it before, it's usually caused
 by a case of pneumonia (which my vet tells me is rare in cats, but he gets
 it a lot). On bad days he has a noisy, gurgly purr, frequent swallowing,
 and wheezing spells once or twice a day that last for about 30-60 seconds.
 Eventually the gurgles and swallowing will clear up, and he'll only have an
 occasional wheezing spell. He had an ultrasound/echocardiogram about 6
 months ago, and an xray last month of his lungs which showed the small spot
 of pneumonia, and he took an antibiotic, which helped some.
 
 This weekend his right eye got infected, with green discharge. He's had
 uveitis (one pupil smaller than the other) before, but not in awhile. I've
 been giving him Neomycin/Polymyxin gel since Sunday. He gets an LTCI
 injection (an immune booster) once a month, but I think I'll give him
 another one today. Does anyone else use LTCI?
 
  Going to check with my vet too, but wanted to see what the listserv had to
 say. Here's the wheezing video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Od-nCkzyb0
 
 He's been sleeping a lot the past 2 days, but still has an appetite.
 
 Thanks,
 Katherine


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Re: [Felvtalk] Wheezing

2015-01-20 Thread dlgegg
YES, MY ANNIE HAS AN APPETITE TOO AND I HAVEN'T NOTICED THE SLEEPING THING, 
SINCE THEY SLEEP 16 HOURS A DAY AND I AM GONE 6 HOURS MON THROUGH FRIDAY.  WHEN 
I GET HOME EVERYONE WANTS TO SLEEP ON MY LAP AND THERE IS A PERIOD OF ARGUMENT 
TO DETERMINE THE PECKING ORDER.  OTHER THAN THIS, ANNIE SEEMS QUITE NORMAL AND 
HEALTHY, JUST THE RUNNY EYES, BUT NOT ALL THE TIME, JUST OFF AND ON.

 Katherine K. kaths...@gmail.com wrote: 
 Hi everyone,
 
 I wanted to get your thoughts on a video of Krammer wheezing. He is 12, has
 had FeLV for the past 1.5 years. The wheezing has been a chronic issue for
 the past year or so, and I've posted about it before, it's usually caused
 by a case of pneumonia (which my vet tells me is rare in cats, but he gets
 it a lot). On bad days he has a noisy, gurgly purr, frequent swallowing,
 and wheezing spells once or twice a day that last for about 30-60 seconds.
 Eventually the gurgles and swallowing will clear up, and he'll only have an
 occasional wheezing spell. He had an ultrasound/echocardiogram about 6
 months ago, and an xray last month of his lungs which showed the small spot
 of pneumonia, and he took an antibiotic, which helped some.
 
 This weekend his right eye got infected, with green discharge. He's had
 uveitis (one pupil smaller than the other) before, but not in awhile. I've
 been giving him Neomycin/Polymyxin gel since Sunday. He gets an LTCI
 injection (an immune booster) once a month, but I think I'll give him
 another one today. Does anyone else use LTCI?
 
  Going to check with my vet too, but wanted to see what the listserv had to
 say. Here's the wheezing video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Od-nCkzyb0
 
 He's been sleeping a lot the past 2 days, but still has an appetite.
 
 Thanks,
 Katherine


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Re: [Felvtalk] Donatello

2015-01-20 Thread dlgegg
I GOT IT

 Amy awilkin...@yahoo.com wrote: 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Wheezing

2015-01-20 Thread dlgegg
I HAVE A STETHESCOPE SO I CHECK EVERYONE IF I HEAR SOMETHING UNUSUAL.  ANNIE 
SOUNDS GOOD, BREATHING, HEART.  THAT IS WHY I WAS NOT WORIED, BUT NOW MAYBE I 
SHOULD BE.

 Marsha mar...@lynxe.com wrote: 
 Milkdud had an occasional episode like that, but of course never at the 
 vet's.  He always sounded fine at the vet, nothing heard on stethoscope, 
 blood work good, so it was just left to observation at home to see if it 
 got worse.  It was pretty much the same over 4 years, just an occasional 
 episode.
 
 Marsha
 
 On 1/20/2015 8:32 AM, Katherine K. wrote:
  Hi everyone,
 
  I wanted to get your thoughts on a video of Krammer wheezing. He is 
  12, has had FeLV for the past 1.5 years. The wheezing has been a 
  chronic issue for the past year or so, and I've posted about it 
  before, it's usually caused by a case of pneumonia (which my vet tells 
  me is rare in cats, but he gets it a lot). On bad days he has a noisy, 
  gurgly purr, frequent swallowing, and wheezing spells once or twice a 
  day that last for about 30-60 seconds. Eventually the gurgles and 
  swallowing will clear up, and he'll only have an occasional wheezing 
  spell. He had an ultrasound/echocardiogram about 6 months ago, and an 
  xray last month of his lungs which showed the small spot of pneumonia, 
  and he took an antibiotic, which helped some.
 
  This weekend his right eye got infected, with green discharge. He's 
  had uveitis (one pupil smaller than the other) before, but not in 
  awhile. I've been giving him Neomycin/Polymyxin gel since Sunday. He 
  gets an LTCI injection (an immune booster) once a month, but I think 
  I'll give him another one today. Does anyone else use LTCI?
 
   Going to check with my vet too, but wanted to see what the listserv 
  had to say. Here's the wheezing video: 
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Od-nCkzyb0
 
  He's been sleeping a lot the past 2 days, but still has an appetite.
 
  Thanks,
  Katherine
 
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Wheezing

2015-01-20 Thread Marsha
Annie's behavior towards other cats sounds a little like my Angelina 
(FeLV negative, passed in 2009). I figured her motto was the best 
defense is a good offense!  I believe Angelina was motivated by fear, 
and she dealt with it by acting tough and chasing the other cats, and 
making them afraid of her so they would leave her alone.  Unfortunately, 
she did this one too many times, and the others began to stand up to 
her.  She ended up with her own room, much of the time with stacked baby 
gates in place of the door.  Later on, I was able to remove the baby 
gates because she stayed in the room, and the others wouldn't go in.  
Then one day I noticed a loud noise didn't startle her.  I tested with 
various noisemakers behind her, where she couldn't see them or feel 
puffs of air from them, and she showed no response at all.  She was 
totally deaf!!  I had her for several years and never knew!  She was a 
tuxedo, not an all-white cat with blue eyes, so the possibility never 
occurred to me.  And she compensated very well.


Marsha

On 1/20/2015 2:29 PM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:

SHE HAS A BAD HISTORY:  WAS ONLY CAT SO DOES NOT SHARE WELL.  IS PARANOID AND 
HIDES LOOKING AROUND TO SEE IF ANYONE IS COMING TO GET HER.  SHE CHARGE THE 
OTHERS, SLAPPING AND SCREAMING AND THEN RUNS.  SHE ALSO WON'T EAT UNTIL THEY 
ARE ALL AWAY FROM THE BOWLS.  NOT RELLY SURE IF IT IS JEALOUSY WANTING TO B 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Wheezing

2015-01-20 Thread dlgegg
HAVE YOU TRIED VITAMIN SUPPLEMENTS FOR KRAMER?  

ANNIE CAME FROM A LADY DYING FROM CANCER.  IF SHE COULD NOT FIND HER A HOME, 
WAS GOING TO HAVE HER PUT DOWN.  SHE HAD BEEN ONLY CAT IN SINGLE TRAILER WITH 
KATHY ALL HER 4 YEARS.  MY VET KEPT ASKING IF I WANTED TO TAKE HER.  I WASN'T 
SURE AS I HAD ONE CAT LEFT FROM MY ORIGINAL GROUP AND ALSO FATHER WAS HERE AND 
SHE WOULD HAVE TO ADAPT TO MUCH, NOT TO MENTION A LARGE HOUSE AND BASEMENT  
.KATHY'S SISTER WENT TO HER TRAILER, CHANGED THE BOX, PUT OUT FOOD AND WATER 
AND THAT WAS IT FOR 3 WEEKS.  THEN SHE WAS STUFFED IN A CARDBOARD BOX AND 
BROUGHT TO THE VET  I PUT HER IN A CARRIER AND BROUGHT HER HOME.   SHE STAYED 
IN THE BASEMENT FOR 2 WEEKS, COMING UP FOR FOOD AT NIGHT WHEN ALL WAS QUIET.  
THEN, SHE CAME UP AND STAYED UP BUT BEGAN THE SCREAMING, CHASING AND SLAPPING 
EVERY TIME SNUGLES CAME NEAR HER AND RAN FROM FATHER AND I.  THEN I GOT HOMEY 
FROM SOMEONE WHO WAS GOING TO TAKE HER OUT AND DUMP HER BECAUSE SHE WAS 
INCONVENIENT AND FAIRLY SOON AFTER THAT, CASEY AND LIL BIT, NITNOY 
 AND LAST 2 THREE MONTH OLD KITTENS, HARLEY AND DEE.  THE SCREAMS ARE NOT AS 
LOUD NOW AND THE OTHER NIGHT SHE LAID IN MY LAP ON THE RECLINER THE SAME TIME 
DEE WAS THERE.  IF I CAN HOLD HER LONG ENOUGH FOR HER TO SETTLE DOWN, THE WILL 
TOLERATE OTHERS NEAR HER. I THINK SHE WOULD BE HAPPY IN A ONE CAT HOUSE, BUT 
NOW SHE IS AT HOME HERE, ANOTHER CHANGE MIGHT DO HER IN. LIL BIT AND CASEY DIED 
OF OLD AGE, NITNOY WAS MY OTHER FELV AND PASSED AFTER 2 YEARS.  OTHER THAN THE 
SNEEZING (GOING TO VET TO BE SURE NOT SERIOUS) AND OBSESSIVE/COMPULSIVE LICKING 
AT CERTAIN SPOTS ON HER LEGS, SHE SEEMS CONTENT, EATS WELL, SLEEPS ON MY BED 
(HER BED)WHICH ON ONE ELSE IS ALLOWED ON.  
ALL THESE BABIES WE BRING HOME HAVE BOTH EMOTIONAL AND PHYSICAL PROBLEMS THAT 
WE DON'T ALWAYS KNOW HOW TO DEAL WITH.  I JUST WISH THEY COULD TALK AND TELL US 
ABOUT THEIR ACHES AND PAINS SO WE COULD HELP THEM BETTER. I WATCH THEM LIKE A 
HAWK AND CONSTANTLY FEEL FOR BUMPS .  EVERYONE HERE THINKS I AM CRAZY, THEY ARE 
JUST CATS.  CATS THAT HAVE TAKEN OVER MY HEART AND GIVEN ME SO MUCH, THEY 
DESERVE THE BEST I CAN GIVE THEM.
JUST TESTED ANNIE FOR HEARING.  DON'T THINK THAT IS A PROBLEM.  THAT IS ANOTHER 
PROBLEM, THEY ARE CONDITIONED BY NATURE TO NOT DISPLAY ANY ILLNESS OR INJURY 
THAT THEY KEEP US FROM KNOWING THEY ARE HURTING.




Marsha mar...@lynxe.com wrote: 
 Annie's behavior towards other cats sounds a little like my Angelina 
 (FeLV negative, passed in 2009). I figured her motto was the best 
 defense is a good offense!  I believe Angelina was motivated by fear, 
 and she dealt with it by acting tough and chasing the other cats, and 
 making them afraid of her so they would leave her alone.  Unfortunately, 
 she did this one too many times, and the others began to stand up to 
 her.  She ended up with her own room, much of the time with stacked baby 
 gates in place of the door.  Later on, I was able to remove the baby 
 gates because she stayed in the room, and the others wouldn't go in.  
 Then one day I noticed a loud noise didn't startle her.  I tested with 
 various noisemakers behind her, where she couldn't see them or feel 
 puffs of air from them, and she showed no response at all.  She was 
 totally deaf!!  I had her for several years and never knew!  She was a 
 tuxedo, not an all-white cat with blue eyes, so the possibility never 
 occurred to me.  And she compensated very well.
 
 Marsha
 
 On 1/20/2015 2:29 PM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:
  SHE HAS A BAD HISTORY:  WAS ONLY CAT SO DOES NOT SHARE WELL.  IS PARANOID 
  AND HIDES LOOKING AROUND TO SEE IF ANYONE IS COMING TO GET HER.  SHE CHARGE 
  THE OTHERS, SLAPPING AND SCREAMING AND THEN RUNS.  SHE ALSO WON'T EAT UNTIL 
  THEY ARE ALL AWAY FROM THE BOWLS.  NOT RELLY SURE IF IT IS JEALOUSY WANTING 
  TO B ONLY ONE OR
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Wheezing

2015-01-20 Thread Katherine K.
OK, my memory isn't so good, but I did some digging and found a video I
took in January 2012 of him wheezing (about 1 and a half years before he
was diagnosed FeLV). So I guess it's been a longer issue. But has never
really interfered with quality of life.

On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 11:33 AM, Katherine K. kaths...@gmail.com wrote:

 Lethargy, not eating, sleeping a lot. I had to assist feed him for a month
 or so, combined with several LTCI shots, to get him back to his normal
 self.

 On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 11:23 AM, Marsha mar...@lynxe.com wrote:

 What symptoms did he have that led you to have him tested?

 Marsha

 On 1/20/2015 9:39 AM, Katherine K. wrote:

 He hasn't always had the wheezing. He tested negative for FeLV before I
 started fostering kittens several years ago. I fostered one kitten who was
 light positive and eventually turned negative. They were separated at
 first, and only interacted after the kitten turned negative. When Krammer
 tested positive, I had been fostering a litter and their mama. Mama had
 tested negative, so everyone was interacting. I got the mama and her litter
 when they were 2 weeks old. The kittens were about 3.5 months old when
 Krammer became ill. I tested him and he came back positive. The kittens
 were all positive too, and have since died. Mama cat got retested (neg),
 adopted out and is doing fine.
 So either they got it from their dad, and passed it on to Krammer, or he
 had a latent infection that just showed up while I had them, and he gave it
 to them. It's hard to know. We retested most of the kittens I had fostered
 before the positive litter (they had been adopted out, so we contacted the
 adopters and offered retesting for free) -- None of them came back positive.



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Re: [Felvtalk] Wheezing

2015-01-20 Thread dlgegg
DO YOU THINK HE IS ACTUALLY WHEEZING (LUNGS, ETC) OF SNEEZING BECAUSE THIS 
SOUNDS LIKE ANNIE'S SNEEZES AND AS I SAID, HER LUNGS ARE CLEAR.  COULD HE HAVE 
DEVEOPED AN ALLERGY ALONG WITH THE PNEUMONIA?  ANNIE DOES SNEEZE ON EXERTION, 
MY DUSTING, RUNNING VACUMN, THINS LIE THAT.  LAST NIGHT I WAS UN DOING A 
CROCHET PIECE TO USE THE YARN IN SOMETHING ELSE AND OF COURSE, SHE WAS SITTING 
ON MY LAP AND BEGAN SNEEZING.  THIS GOES ON FOR A BIT AND THEN SHE STOPS.  I 
GUESS I AM TRYING TO AVOID A GUILT TRIP FOR NOT TAKING HER TO THE VET.
SHE HAS A BAD HISTORY:  WAS ONLY CAT SO DOES NOT SHARE WELL.  IS PARANOID AND 
HIDES LOOKING AROUND TO SEE IF ANYONE IS COMING TO GET HER.  SHE CHARGE THE 
OTHERS, SLAPPING AND SCREAMING AND THEN RUNS.  SHE ALSO WON'T EAT UNTIL THEY 
ARE ALL AWAY FROM THE BOWLS.  NOT RELLY SURE IF IT IS JEALOUSY WANTING TO B 
ONLY ONE OR FEAR.  AS A RESULT, I HAVE PUT SOE OF THESE SNEEZES DOWN TO PANIC 
ATTACKS.  HAS KRAMER HAD ANY WEIRD PROBLEMS LIKE THIS?  IN THE VIDEO, HE SEEMS 
PETTY LAID BACK.

 Katherine K. kaths...@gmail.com wrote: 
 He hasn't always had the wheezing. He tested negative for FeLV before I
 started fostering kittens several years ago. I fostered one kitten who was
 light positive and eventually turned negative. They were separated at
 first, and only interacted after the kitten turned negative. When Krammer
 tested positive, I had been fostering a litter and their mama. Mama had
 tested negative, so everyone was interacting. I got the mama and her litter
 when they were 2 weeks old. The kittens were about 3.5 months old when
 Krammer became ill. I tested him and he came back positive. The kittens
 were all positive too, and have since died. Mama cat got retested (neg),
 adopted out and is doing fine.
 So either they got it from their dad, and passed it on to Krammer, or he
 had a latent infection that just showed up while I had them, and he gave it
 to them. It's hard to know. We retested most of the kittens I had fostered
 before the positive litter (they had been adopted out, so we contacted the
 adopters and offered retesting for free) -- None of them came back
 positive.
 
 On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 10:31 AM, Marsha mar...@lynxe.com wrote:
 
   What kind of symptoms did he have before he was diagnosed, and any idea
  how long he might have actually had FeLV?  Just wondering if he might have
  had it all those years, or if it was contracted more recently.
 
  Marsha
 
  On 1/20/2015 9:17 AM, Katherine K. wrote:
 
  Monthly for about 1.5 years, since August 2013, basically since he was
  diagnosed.
 
  On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 10:15 AM, Marsha mar...@lynxe.com wrote:
 
  How long has Krammer been on LTCI?
 
 
 
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