Re: [Felvtalk] FIV groups

2016-05-25 Thread Amani Oakley 
That is very good to know. My experience with FIV has not been good, except for 
the last little girl I took from the feral colony and treated with Winstrol. 
She seems fine (great coat now, good size, very playful, etc.) but she still 
has sounds like she has water on her lungs, though the lungs are clear on xray 
– I presume the fluid accumulation is still around the lungs.

I am glad to hear that FIV cats can live a long time.

Amani

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lee
Sent: May-25-16 11:57 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FIV groups


Hi, FIV is not the horrid disease that some people think it is. I'm glad the 
shelter allowed you to adopt these cats. The main thing is that they live 
stress-free and have good food, clean water and plenty of love. I did FIV 
rescue for many years. Most of the cats lived to be 14 to  16 years old without 
any major illness and passed from kidney failure and old age. The best FIV 
group is the FIV2 group, if it still exists. I still have one FIV+ cat who was 
slated for death at the Humane Society 12 years ago but the adoption 
coordinator knew I was aware that these cats could live long, healthy lives so 
she called me and we traded one of my adoptable foster cats for the FIV cat she 
had at the shelter. As long as your cats are neutered or spayed they won't pass 
on the disease, even if they live with cats that do not have it. FIV is passed 
on from deep bites during mating and fighting during mating so you really do 
not have to keep fixed cats separate. Good luck with your two fur kids.
On May 24, 2016 4:58 PM, Christine Dundas 
> wrote:

Check Yahoo groups.  They have groups for FIV.
On May 24, 2016 3:26 PM, "barbe berbes" 
> wrote:

Both of my babies have FIV, both adopted from shelter. Does anyone know of a 
support group I can join to better helpe to help keep my little one healthy as 
Iong as possible? I know very little about FIV and this group doesn't address 
their issues directly. Thank you for any help and/or advice!!!
On May 24, 2016 2:17 PM, "Roxanne Smith" 
> wrote:
I live in Milwaukee and know several good holistic vets
Dr Heidi Meier out of Community Vet Clinic
and Dr. Ali Troutman, I think her clinic is Integrated Vet Clinic
Both are nice vets--I like them both
I use Dr Meier for foster care
and I have been to Dr Ali for several of my own very sick animals. Both are 
sweet vets.



From: swacht >
To: felineres...@frontier.com; 
felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 12:33 PM

Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Availability of Winstrol

There was someone who lives in the Milwaukee, WI area looking for a Holistic
Vet - I have nieces who live in Madison, WI who found one there
Full Circle Veterinary
Holistic Veterinary Care

I don't remember who and there are so many posts to go through

Sandy W

-Original Message-
From: Lorrie
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 5:18 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Availability of Winstrol

Thank you very much Ardy.  Now to get my vet to comply.

Lorrie
-

On 05-19, Ardy Robertson wrote:
> Hi Lorrie,
>
> I found Winstrol (Stanozolol) at a compounding pharmacy called Diamond
> Back
> Drugs in Arizona. They offered it in other forms besides liquid, I can't
> remember all of them so they might have it in pill form. I bought it in
> liquid because that was easier for me to give to Tigger and he liked the
> salmon flavor. I would let him smell the syringe before I gave it and he
> did
> not try to avoid it. The company's website is
> http://www.diamondbackdrugs.com/   and their phone number is
> 866-578-4420.
>
> I found them to be very good to work with, very efficient and also caring.
> The company seems large, but they take time to talk with you individually
> also. The vet had to fill out the prescription online, or fax it to them.
> Then they would call me to verify the address, and for me to give them
> payment by credit card. I paid $42 for a 25 day supply.
>
> Hope this helps. If they do not have pill form, you might be able to find
> other sources by googling "compounding pharmacy veterinarian".
> Ardy
>
>

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Re: [Felvtalk] FIV groups

2016-05-25 Thread Lee 
Hi, FIV is not the horrid disease that some people think it is. I'm glad the shelter allowed you to adopt these cats. The main thing is that they live stress-free and have good food, clean water and plenty of love. I did FIV rescue for many years. Most of the cats lived to be 14 to  16 years old without any major illness and passed from kidney failure and old age. The best FIV group is the FIV2 group, if it still exists. I still have one FIV+ cat who was slated for death at the Humane Society 12 years ago but the adoption coordinator knew I was aware that these cats could live long, healthy lives so she called me and we traded one of my adoptable foster cats for the FIV cat she had at the shelter. As long as your cats are neutered or spayed they won't pass on the disease, even if they live with cats that do not have it. FIV is passed on from deep bites during mating and fighting during mating so you really do not have to keep fixed cats separate. Good luck with your two fur kids.
On May 24, 2016 4:58 PM, Christine Dundas  wrote:Check Yahoo groups.  They have groups for FIV.
On May 24, 2016 3:26 PM, "barbe berbes"  wrote:Both of my babies have FIV, both adopted from shelter. Does anyone know of a support group I can join to better helpe to help keep my little one healthy as Iong as possible? I know very little about FIV and this group doesn't address their issues directly. Thank you for any help and/or advice!!!
On May 24, 2016 2:17 PM, "Roxanne Smith"  wrote:I live in Milwaukee and know several good holistic vetsDr Heidi Meier out of Community Vet Clinicand Dr. Ali Troutman, I think her clinic is Integrated Vet ClinicBoth are nice vets--I like them bothI use Dr Meier for foster careand I have been to Dr Ali for several of my own very sick animals. Both are sweet vets.   From: swacht  To: felinerescue@frontier.com; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org  Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 12:33 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Availability of Winstrol   There was someone who lives in the Milwaukee, WI area looking for a Holistic Vet - I have nieces who live in Madison, WI who found one thereFull Circle VeterinaryHolistic Veterinary CareI don't remember who and there are so many posts to go throughSandy W-Original Message- From: LorrieSent: Friday, May 20, 2016 5:18 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: [Felvtalk] Availability of WinstrolThank you very much Ardy.  Now to get my vet to comply.Lorrie-On 05-19, Ardy Robertson wrote:> Hi Lorrie,>> I found Winstrol (Stanozolol) at a compounding pharmacy called Diamond > Back> Drugs in Arizona. They offered it in other forms besides liquid, I can't> remember all of them so they might have it in pill form. I bought it in> liquid because that was easier for me to give to Tigger and he liked the> salmon flavor. I would let him smell the syringe before I gave it and he > did> not try to avoid it. The company's website is> http://www.diamondbackdrugs.com/   and their phone number is > 866-578-4420.>> I found them to be very good to work with, very efficient and also caring.> The company seems large, but they take time to talk with you individually> also. The vet had to fill out the prescription online, or fax it to them.> Then they would call me to verify the address, and for me to give them> payment by credit card. I paid $42 for a 25 day supply.>> Hope this helps. If they do not have pill form, you might be able to find> other sources by googling "compounding pharmacy veterinarian".> Ardy>>___Felvtalk mailing listFelvtalk@felineleukemia.orghttp://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___Felvtalk mailing listFelvtalk@felineleukemia.orghttp://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___
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Re: [Felvtalk] Availability of Winstrol

2016-05-25 Thread dlgegg 
Hey, if it works, sell it!  Winstrol for me has proven itself in helping cats 
in need.  I would like to get some to keep on hand just in case.  What I have 
read from various members tells me it is worth a try.

 Amani Oakley  wrote: 
> At the risk of really sounding like a snake oil salesman, I am going to again 
> suggest you try Winstrol with your cats.
> 
> I had a cat I adopted from a feral colony, and when I picked her up she was 
> very very sick. The woman I picked her up from, clearly had a bunch of cats 
> from the same shelter, all very ill with something. One of the cats I met at 
> her home was so adorable but she said he wasn’t eating and seemed to have a 
> sore abdomen and hadn’t been eating and she didn’t know what was wrong. I 
> learned he died the next day and she had tests run and they came back FIV 
> positive. I was already half-expecting it because the woman had told me that 
> many kittens from that colony would seem fine at first, then their bellies 
> would blow up, and they would suddenly die.
> 
> The little girl I brought home got progressively and dramatically worse. She 
> was so very very hot (extremely high temperature), her abdomen was round and 
> felt odd and she had a very congested-sounding chest. Her eyes were running 
> and she was so incredibly sick. Nothing was helping. I tried antibiotics, and 
> a bunch of other things. There was no improvement for days. I took her to the 
> vets and they did a chest xray and there was no fluid IN the lungs – it was 
> around the lungs. Nothing they tried helped either. I finally decided, what 
> the hell, and gave her Winstrol, and I got a very good result. Within days, 
> started eating, her temperature dropped back to normal, and she began to 
> interact with me, rather than just lie on the couch next to me – basically 
> immobile. Though I have never had her tested, I believe she had FIV and I 
> believe that the Winstrol helped.
> 
> When I find that the vets tell that they have no ideas or suggestions, and 
> the condition is hopeless or incurable, I figure the worst case scenario is 
> that the Winstrol doesn’t help. I keep getting good results instead.
> 
> I don’t think the vets have too much to offer for cats with FIV, just like 
> FeLV cats. If they give you no other options, consider trying Winstrol.
> 
> Amani
> 
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
> barbe berbes
> Sent: May-24-16 3:26 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org; Roxanne Smith
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Availability of Winstrol
> 
> 
> Both of my babies have FIV, both adopted from shelter. Does anyone know of a 
> support group I can join to better helpe to help keep my little one healthy 
> as Iong as possible? I know very little about FIV and this group doesn't 
> address their issues directly. Thank you for any help and/or advice!!!
> On May 24, 2016 2:17 PM, "Roxanne Smith" 
> > wrote:
> I live in Milwaukee and know several good holistic vets
> Dr Heidi Meier out of Community Vet Clinic
> and Dr. Ali Troutman, I think her clinic is Integrated Vet Clinic
> Both are nice vets--I like them both
> I use Dr Meier for foster care
> and I have been to Dr Ali for several of my own very sick animals. Both are 
> sweet vets.
> 
> 
> 
> From: swacht >
> To: felineres...@frontier.com; 
> felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 12:33 PM
> 
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Availability of Winstrol
> 
> There was someone who lives in the Milwaukee, WI area looking for a Holistic
> Vet - I have nieces who live in Madison, WI who found one there
> Full Circle Veterinary
> Holistic Veterinary Care
> 
> I don't remember who and there are so many posts to go through
> 
> Sandy W
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Lorrie
> Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 5:18 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Availability of Winstrol
> 
> Thank you very much Ardy.  Now to get my vet to comply.
> 
> Lorrie
> -
> 
> On 05-19, Ardy Robertson wrote:
> > Hi Lorrie,
> >
> > I found Winstrol (Stanozolol) at a compounding pharmacy called Diamond
> > Back
> > Drugs in Arizona. They offered it in other forms besides liquid, I can't
> > remember all of them so they might have it in pill form. I bought it in
> > liquid because that was easier for me to give to Tigger and he liked the
> > salmon flavor. I would let him smell the syringe before I gave it and he
> > did
> > not try to avoid it. The company's website is
> > http://www.diamondbackdrugs.com/   and their phone number is
> > 866-578-4420.
> >
> > I found them to be very good to work with, very efficient and also caring.
> > The company seems large, but they take time to talk with you