Re: [Felvtalk] Jelly...

2017-04-08 Thread ROBERT CHAPEL

Sheri...
You make a good point...  I'd need someones help to visualize the inside 
of his mouth( any time I open his mouth or mess with his gums he 
interprets it as nasty medicine coming his way or being " forced" to 
take in nutrition...  I know the vet I took him to did not check his 
mouth  I can't speak about the vet that the shelter took him to for 
the original incorrect Dx( He certainly SHOULD have checked his mouth as 
the presenting complaint was that he was not eating... but can't say for 
sure.   I'm inclined to think that this is not the limiting factor  as 
he doesn't really even show an interest in food and the food that is 
made available to him right now is VERY easy on his mouth ( ie.. does 
not require any substantive chewing) That said...  I will keep this in 
the forfront of my brain as something to pay more attention to.    
I'm in a race against time with this little guy as he is losing weight 
rather quickly( which can be the virus alone... but his failure to take 
in adequate calories is exacerbating the situation..   Today his 
high spots were even higher but his low times were even lower ( if that 
makes any sense)... eg... He ate a little and was more sociable for a 
brief while but when he was over that he really wanted to be left 
alone  I don't force him to do anything he doesn't want to do save 
for brooking NO opposition when it comes to taking his Winstrol Doxy and 
Pred and at least 30 CC of Baby Food and additional fluids if he is not 
drinking much ( like today)...  I'm going to try to get him some SubQ 
fluids over at the shelter tomorrow... He's slowing down on his 
drinking.
I tell Jelly how everyone is rooting for him  : ) Strangely he does 
not appear moved by this news  : )


Bob


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   2. Re: Jelly.. (Sheri Burbridge)
   3. Re: Jelly.. (dlg...@windstream.net)
   4. Re: Jelly.. (Amani Oakley)


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SO happy to hear you've had some ups again- praying he's stable long 
enough

for the meds to work their miracles for Jelly!
Jen
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Bob, I am right there with you trying not to get my hopes up when 
things go
well for awhile but I'm SO happy that you had those good moments with 
Jelly
today! I love how much you love your animals, I'm the same, mine are 
all my

kids, I have a real soft spot for special needs animals.

I thought I'd ask since I'm dealing with this with Mo, have you 
checked
Jelly's mouth for sores? Mo has a bunch on his palate that the vet 
compared
to canker sores and said it makes swallowing painful. I've been giving 
Mo

tiny syringes of Buprenorphine 2-3 times a day to help him eat. I just
thought I'd throw it out there in case Jelly could be helped with 
something

like that too?

I hope you both are having a good evening and I'm willing the meds to 
work

for Jelly from here!

Sheri

On Fri, Apr 7, 2017, 5:05 PM ROBERT CHAPEL  wrote:

Thank you all for your support and suggestions...  It is a comfort to 
me
that I have a group of folks that I KNOW get the attachment that we 
can
develop to an animal... and when we have a truly special one ( ALL to 
me

are special..thats the baseline... it just goes up from there : )
it is that much more painful
I was ecstatic this AM when Jelly seemed to truly enjoy his grooming 
and
pushed him little head INto the brush..then fell on his side inviting 
me
to brush his sides and backafter that he actually ate a little 
bit

of baby food off a plate I had to leave for a few hours and I was
hoping against hope that when I returned he would have finished the 
rest
of the baby food I left on the plate   I don't know which bothers 
me
more...getting my hopes up to have them dashed hours later or just 
never
getting my hopes up?...  When I returned home he was quite lethargic 

Re: [Felvtalk] Jelly..

2017-04-08 Thread Amani Oakley
Bob, I am thrilled you have seen a bit of improvement, though I get your 
cautiousness as well. It could be something, it could be nothing, but any 
improvement lifts the spirits a bit. Also, based on the lab results I saw, it 
will take a long while to correct the abnormalities there, so anticipate a long 
slow battle. Hopefully, you continue to see bright-spots, and that those 
bright-spots increase in frequency and duration.

Keep up the patient, kind work for little Jelly.

Amani

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Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Jelly..

Thank you all for your support and suggestions...  It is a comfort to me that I 
have a group of folks that I KNOW get the attachment that we can develop to an 
animal... and when we have a truly special one ( ALL to me are special..thats 
the baseline... it just goes up from there : ) it is that much more painful
I was ecstatic this AM when Jelly seemed to truly enjoy his grooming and pushed 
him little head INto the brush..then fell on his side inviting me to brush his 
sides and backafter that he actually ate a little bit of baby food off a 
plate I had to leave for a few hours and I was hoping against hope that 
when I returned he would have finished the rest of the baby food I left on the 
plate   I don't know which bothers me more...getting my hopes up to have 
them dashed hours later or just never getting my hopes up?...  When I returned 
home he was quite lethargic and had not touched any of  the food...   His 
gurgling ( which had abated considerably for several hours( maybe the Winstrol 
IS helping this Amani? ) was back and getting meds and a little food into him 
was a challenge again.  Still... he DID improve for a few hours which " 
may " be a good sign...or..no sign at all...  Every day I decide to...than 
decide against putting him down about 40 times...  But.. I'm a little better 
this time around with my ability to recognize Kitty discomfort and not rush to 
end a life that still HAS some life left...
As to foods he loves ( referencing Jennifers comments)  I'm actually rather 
gingerly "force" feeding him his favorite food which always was turkey baby 
food   Squirting a bit into the gum pouch opposite the side I place the 
syringe so that it does/t just go down his throat Once it's in his mouth he 
generally swallows it...   I leave plates of anything and everthing he ever 
liked in numerous places throughout the day so that he never has to go far to 
take a " bite " if he is inclined. and Sheri... I can assure you that this 
little guy is not wanting for affection  any time that he is willing to 
stay near me he IS near me ( but that was always the way it was...  I am 
literally unable to be in the presence of an animal without having a hand on 
some part of it's body Moreso my own pets but really quite the same with 
any animal any WHERE... I've been that way since I was a youngster. 
   I'm the guy who would be VERY conflicted between saving the guy I don't know 
or his dog if their boat flipped in frigid seas ( with at least a 60% 
likelihood it would be the dog).   So thank you all for your support 
and particularly for the love and care you provide the little creatures that so 
many others overlook...

Bob 


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