Re: [Felvtalk] Winstrol (Stanozolol)
Dear Maribel, for Amy’s sake, If she is not eating for other reasons and can be saved & nursed back to health, that is one thing. IF she is in the actual dying process, in any final stages of dying, you are doing more harm than good with forcing fluids and forcing food down her throat, particularly when she’s telling you to stop with open mouth breathing (clear sign of respiratory distress) and pain (moaning). When a body is dying, it naturally stops eating and drinking... this is coming from hospice and animal hospice experience.Please try to talk to your vets, or research ‘stages of dying’ in order to articulate where amy is at, and not to confuse actual stages of dying signs with other sorts of symptoms of illness ( btw, brighthaven.org is an excellent resource for this information and guidance that I have referenced — they also have amazingly compassionate consultations if you need guidance of what to look for...)... Wishing you and Amy love and comfort... Jennifer > On Aug 6, 2020, at 3:06 PM, "dlg...@windstream.net" > wrote: > > have they tested for internal bleeding? maybe is hemoraging. i was syringe > feeding my 12 year old Homey. had to cover my lap . i mixed the canned food > with warm water so would go through 20ml syringe. then broke my right arm > and had to stop,is eating maybe a spoon full each day, just enough to keep > her alive. she stopped after some time on Felimazole 2.5mg. also after > started giving treats as reward for taking pill. loves the treats but not > her food. have tried to mix treats with food in blender, no go. going to > try your method of balling up the food. may be neater and get more down her. > > - Original Message - > From: Maribel Piloto > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Sent: Thu, 06 Aug 2020 12:38:59 -0400 (EDT) > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Winstrol (Stanozolol) > > The problem is that force feeding her is stressing her out. I tried to > syringe feed her some baby food with liqui-tinic this morning and she started > breathing open mouth and moaning. She just gets up to turn positions now > and just lays back down. I know she needs another blood transfusion but > after paying $3500 for the first two I have no funds left. Even that I was > only able to pay with the help from a friend and a GoFundMe fundraiser. > > They never were able to figure out what is causing the anemia. She is > neither FIV nor Leuk pos. She tested negative for a slew of blood parasite > and other parasites they tested for. The Winstrol is my last hope but I > fear that by the time I get it she will be gone or too weak. I live in > South Florida and cannot believe that there isn't a place anywhere around > here where I can't get that. I've been calling every pharmacy in town it > seems. > > Maribel > > "The greatness of a nation can be judged by the way its animals are treated." > -Mohandas Ghandi > > > > On Wednesday, August 5, 2020, 07:35:28 PM EDT, Amani Oakley > wrote: > > > Can you get the vet to call the pharmacy and order the meds urgently? I agree > that if Amy is not eating, Winstrol may be helpful on that score as well, and > you cannot wait until Monday if she isn’t eating. > > One thing I learned how to do with cats who weren’t eating is to take soft > wet cat food, ball it up into a ball about the size of a marble, pry open > their mouths, and lob the food to the back of the throat. Some of it gets > spit back up, but once you get the hang of it, most of it goes down. I have > found that doing it this way also seems to cause the cat to ultimately get a > bit more interested in eating, once some of the food has gone down - usually > after a few sittings though. > > I agree that giving her baby food via syringe is also a good way to get food > into a cat who won't eat on her own. > > Amani > > -Original Message- > From: Felvtalk On Behalf Of Maribel > Piloto > Sent: August 5, 2020 7:25 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Winstrol (Stanozolol) > > I had to give my vet instructions on Winstrol and the info on how to order > it. > > Amy is not eating. I’m syringe feeding her baby food, Liqui-tinic, giving > her some subq fluids. > > Maribel > > "The greatness of a nation can be judged by the way its animals are treated." > -Mohandas Ghandi > > > On Aug 5, 2020, at 7:11 PM, Amani Oakley wrote: > > > > I don’t know of any pharmacies, unless you get it through your vets. They > > may be able to order it sooner. > > > > However, I know it seems like a nerve-wracking time to wait, but my Zander > > dropped down to a 5 haematocrit and survived. Mind you, at that point, he > > needed to be in an oxygen tent. Your cat will be all right by next Monday - > > slow and lethargic and she may have to catch her breath on stairs, but > > Zander dropped down to 10 after his transfusions, and you couldn’t tell > > from his
Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Felvtalk Digest, Vol 47, Issue 6
l, his blood results would show an immediate drop in red cells and > haematocrit, so even though his liver enzymes went way up (the reason > Winstrol had fallen out of favour with the vets), I really had no choice but > to continue since the vets had nothing else to offer me and the alternative > was he was going to die from the FeLV infection. He recovered fully, looked > marvelous and amazing, ate well, and his liver enzymes went right back to > normal once I discontinued the Winstrol – something like 10 months later. > > No one seemed to know this combination, and the vets I spoke with seemed wary > or suspicious that this combination would indeed be helpful in FeLV (except > mine – who had of course seen the weekly blood work showing a slow and > steady rise in red cells and ultimately, in white cells and platelets, until > his entire haematological profile looked perfectly fine). At the time, I was > understandably extremely excited by the effects of the Winstrol and I believe > that the Winstrol was able to cause the production of new bone marrow cells > (something it has been found to do in osteoporotic women) and thus, new cells > which could produce the red cells. However, I now also think that the > combination worked because the Doxycycline was able to retard or slow down > the viral replication, to allow the red cell production to move ahead with > less risk that the FeLV would attack the new bone marrow cells. I have been > told that the prednisone helps protect the liver from the Winstrol, but I > also think that it’s anti-inflammatory properties helped in areas like > intestinal inflammation (Zander had lots of trouble eating and keeping the > food down). So, I think maybe I by accident stumbled on this combination, but > was able to understand what might be happening and why it might have worked, > because of my scientific/medical training. > > Zander lived another 7 years and died from a heart condition which I wondered > at the time if it was related, and it might have been, but it probably was > that the virus had done a fair amount of damage to certain organs before I > was able to get it under control. We loved Zander to a crazy extent, and I > sure as hell wanted him with us for longer than 7 years, but given that the > vets were telling us there was no hope when he was only six months old, I > guess I must just be grateful that we had him for so much longer than that. > > Amani > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of > Jennifer Minnich > Sent: June-10-18 6:54 AM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 47, Issue 6 > > Thanks so much Amani. What an amazing global group. Very awesome to have > such support for folks and these cats, everywhere! > > Amani, when I am emailing you now, is it going out to the group or just you? > For example, is there a different email I should be using. Please let me > know, and then I’ll > have the hang of it, thanks!-:) > > I really appreciate ur time, compassion, and advice and communication. I will > keep in mind the advice on the doxy for sure. > > > Our understanding predominantly is that FIV is via bite wounds, where my > experience with one cat who fortunately wasn’t aggressive and fit with the > environment. > My understanding with Felv is via bites as well also general contact. With > so much contraversy about it, it’s very interesting from what u share how > some seem to spread or get it while others don’t like life, a continual > learning process for me.. > > Canada wow - I am in south florida and long story short I flew with a special > needs senior blind cat I rescued and rehabbed to his furrever home in canada. > He was purrfectly fine when I left him there (and yes I was very attached b/c > I knew everything about him) (only reason I decided to home him was b/c I had > a sick older cat and I feared it may stress her, and that he may have been > better off.he was an amazing special soul!!! Very special. I settled > him in for a few says all was fine; But 3 weeks later he took a crazy turn > where he was worse off than when I first found him (and he was bad off with > broken pelvis), and, they euthanized-:( my heart still and always will hurt > over it. They were nice people and good animal people with good intentions > but IMO made mistakes and would not heed my advice for transitioning him. > Rushed it with their other animals which freaked him out; he fell off the > bed, yada yada. They said he had cancer. Based on what I’d ask? No answer. > Anything may have been b/c he too was community cat with unknown background, > altho all his same te
Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 47, Issue 6
Thank You Ardy for reaching out! and sharing your story which is wonderful he had a loving home and of course returned the love & joy. So many that don’t get the chance that they deserve. This is a compassionate great group of people. Jennifer > On Jun 11, 2018, at 10:32 PM, Ardy Robertson wrote: > > Hi Jennifer, > I had an FeLV+ kitty for 5-1/2 years and did not know he was positive because > he had tested negative as a kitten when I found him. So during that time he > came in contact with many othernder cats, and none of them became positive. I > read that after 11 months of age, it is quite rare for a cat to catch it from > a positive friend. Had I known Tigger was positive, I might not have kept him > – but I am so very happy I didn’t know it and kept him, because I would never > have known how much fun and love he brought to our house! Whatever you > decide, my best to you and your little one. I would for sure get him on the > Doxy as soon as you can. > Ardy > > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of > Jennifer Minnich > Sent: Saturday, June 9, 2018 5:19 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 47, Issue 6 > > Hi, thank you for replying. It is helpful to talk to someone with > experience with this. > > Sorry to be ignorant but, how do I post where I am? (Not sure what that > means). > And If I post, is it ok to ‘put it out there’ re: possible home with other > felv positives? > Esp because I would be willing to help support him which I think makes a > difference. > > we’d love to keep and care for him and this sucks !! but i’m trying to be > positive that a plan will happen. He went from hissy street cat to curling > up in my lap. Urg! > > I’d worry with someone else unless it was someone with experience, or like u > said non cat crazy people but compassionate and committed. > > We discussed it a few times and just would not be comfortable with the risk > of coMingling them unfortunately,-:( which sucks. Or the whole vaccination > thing b/c with multiple other cats it’ll be too much craziness plus not even > sure of efficacy, or side effects. > > That leaves me with leaving him separated and constantly trying to be > sterilized on our end which seems cumbersome and I’m not so sure fair to him > to be isolated all the time. OR the only cat. OR in a multi pos. home > (prob. preferrable b/c someone would know how to treat him). OR putting him > back outside which doesn’t seem best for him. > > I can imagine there are times it works out ok to comingle yes, where it can > be ok vs ‘oh my gosh no don’t do that’. That is what happened with my FIV > cat which is a long story but bottom line after research and talking to folks > it was an ok fit b/c no one were fighters. felv is different. I have known > others (individuals or rescues) where exposure of different things had bad > outcomes. I guess it’s a matter of variables, situations and/or luck. > Sounds like you have been fortunate which is awesome. > (Thanks for ALL u do to help the felines-:) > > I got the antibiotic before seeing this. I am > familiar with doxy and thought that’s what he’d give, but it was Orbax > (Orbifloxacin). > Are U familiar? > When i got it I asked front desk if it was as strong as doxy and she said yes > and that it’s broad spectrum antibiotic. Thoughts? > > Are u familiar with Collodial Silver? > If not I can send the link. > I was recommended this yesterday for use for people and cats or other > animals. > Cat person said she uses all the time for different things from bacterial > infections to URI’s. It’s a natural antibiotic. > It lists as an option for stomatitis and felv use so I imagine it cannot > hurt, in basic doses. (supposed to be good for many things including > inflammation and immune-building). I plan to give him that and the > antibiotic; was ok with vet . > > With ur experience and what u’ve heard (he’s between 5-7 yrs. old they say; > to be neutered in couple weeks; 10lbs (needs gain some); Bad stomatitis > (i’ll send pic if u want ): > > A) what’s ur feeling about putting him > back outside?(I’ve never done that; he could get by but My feeling is he > shouldn’t be in the elements and would do better inside)—- just not sure what > will happen if there are no other good options. > > B) at that age and what you are hearing... any sense of lifespan? (I know > it’s hard to say but was guessing 2-4 years or up to a year). my vet said > oldest one he knew of was patient’s who lived to 8y/o. What’s ur feeling of > assessing if he could las
Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 47, Issue 6
Hi Amani, hope you received the email below-:) Will wait to hear back re: email address inquiry; in the meanwhile, i plan to see how he’s doing in the next couple weeks; i may have a temp. foster not sure yet; would appreciate the opportunity for local group outreach if needed. He’s been in my bathroom the past few days and seemed to be doing pretty good; tonight he’s squinting an eye - any experience with that with your felv’s? (I put a sissel scratchpad in with him yesterday which is awefully concidental this started today, so I kind of wonder if he’s allergic or got any of it in his eyes, or if it’s the meds or Felv separately related). Will see how he is in the morning and go from there. Thank u, JennifEr > On Jun 10, 2018, at 6:53 AM, Jennifer Minnich > wrote: > > Thanks so much Amani. What an amazing global group. Very awesome to have > such support for folks and these cats, everywhere! > > Amani, when I am emailing you now, is it going out to the group or just you? > For example, is there a different email I should be using. Please let me > know, and then I’ll > have the hang of it, thanks!-:) > > I really appreciate ur time, compassion, and advice and communication. I will > keep in mind the advice on the doxy for sure. > > Our understanding predominantly is that FIV is via bite wounds, where my > experience with one cat who fortunately wasn’t aggressive and fit with the > environment. > My understanding with Felv is via bites as well also general contact. With > so much contraversy about it, it’s very interesting from what u share how > some seem to spread or get it while others don’t like life, a continual > learning process for me.. > > Canada wow - I am in south florida and long story short I flew with a special > needs senior blind cat I rescued and rehabbed to his furrever home in canada. > He was purrfectly fine when I left him there (and yes I was very attached b/c > I knew everything about him) (only reason I decided to home him was b/c I had > a sick older cat and I feared it may stress her, and that he may have been > better off.he was an amazing special soul!!! Very special. I settled > him in for a few says all was fine; But 3 weeks later he took a crazy turn > where he was worse off than when I first found him (and he was bad off with > broken pelvis), and, they euthanized-:( my heart still and always will hurt > over it. They were nice people and good animal people with good intentions > but IMO made mistakes and would not heed my advice for transitioning him. > Rushed it with their other animals which freaked him out; he fell off the > bed, yada yada. They said he had cancer. Based on what I’d ask? No answer. > Anything may have been b/c he too was community cat with unknown background, > altho all his same tests I had from a month prior were fine. I asked > (begged) to share his medical records which aside from my own edification, I > felt his story and whatever caused his demise, could Really help other cats > somehow. His story was extraordinary, as was/is he. So for it to end that way > and be ignored as to why, was cruel and unjust. Like if nothing to hide, why > not share the records. To this day a year and half later I still wish I had > them for some kind of closure, not only for me but his story in order to help > other cats in similar situations. Sorry I strayed (no punn intended Lol) > from the topic. > > Like you said, and you have much more experience, about putting them back > out, esp. being vulnerable/sick and after they’ve experienced love. > > Jennifer > > >> On Jun 10, 2018, at 12:20 AM, Amani Oakley wrote: >> >> Hi Jennifer >> >> There are people in this group from all over the U.S. (New York, Texas, >> Wisconsin, California, etc.) and all around the world (Canada – me!; Brazil, >> Italy, South Africa), so I just meant that if you tell us in your email, >> approximately where you’re located, there may be people near you who might >> be willing to help out with your cat. >> >> In my personal opinion, once you’ve taken the time and care to tame down a >> feral, as you have clearly done, I would never put them back out on the >> street. But maybe that’s why I’m up to 18 cats now! I just think that once >> they know what it’s like to be warm and clean and loved, it is just too >> terrible to put them back outside again. >> >> Frankly, of the two conditions, it is the FIV which is more contagious so if >> you’ve had experience with that, and it turned out okay, in my experience, >> it won’t be the FeLV that causes a problem, unless you have kittens in your >> house. Adult
Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 47, Issue 6
ecause it might help with the background viral issues. > > Amani > > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of > Jennifer Minnich > Sent: June-09-18 6:19 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 47, Issue 6 > > Hi, thank you for replying. It is helpful to talk to someone with > experience with this. > > Sorry to be ignorant but, how do I post where I am? (Not sure what that > means). > And If I post, is it ok to ‘put it out there’ re: possible home with other > felv positives? > Esp because I would be willing to help support him which I think makes a > difference. > > we’d love to keep and care for him and this sucks !! but i’m trying to be > positive that a plan will happen. He went from hissy street cat to curling > up in my lap. Urg! > > I’d worry with someone else unless it was someone with experience, or like u > said non cat crazy people but compassionate and committed. > > We discussed it a few times and just would not be comfortable with the risk > of coMingling them unfortunately,-:( which sucks. Or the whole vaccination > thing b/c with multiple other cats it’ll be too much craziness plus not even > sure of efficacy, or side effects. > > That leaves me with leaving him separated and constantly trying to be > sterilized on our end which seems cumbersome and I’m not so sure fair to him > to be isolated all the time. OR the only cat. OR in a multi pos. home > (prob. preferrable b/c someone would know how to treat him). OR putting him > back outside which doesn’t seem best for him. > > I can imagine there are times it works out ok to comingle yes, where it can > be ok vs ‘oh my gosh no don’t do that’. That is what happened with my FIV > cat which is a long story but bottom line after research and talking to folks > it was an ok fit b/c no one were fighters. felv is different. I have known > others (individuals or rescues) where exposure of different things had bad > outcomes. I guess it’s a matter of variables, situations and/or luck. > Sounds like you have been fortunate which is awesome. > (Thanks for ALL u do to help the felines-:) > > I got the antibiotic before seeing this. I am > familiar with doxy and thought that’s what he’d give, but it was Orbax > (Orbifloxacin). > Are U familiar? > When i got it I asked front desk if it was as strong as doxy and she said yes > and that it’s broad spectrum antibiotic. Thoughts? > > Are u familiar with Collodial Silver? > If not I can send the link. > I was recommended this yesterday for use for people and cats or other > animals. > Cat person said she uses all the time for different things from bacterial > infections to URI’s. It’s a natural antibiotic. > It lists as an option for stomatitis and felv use so I imagine it cannot > hurt, in basic doses. (supposed to be good for many things including > inflammation and immune-building). I plan to give him that and the > antibiotic; was ok with vet . > > With ur experience and what u’ve heard (he’s between 5-7 yrs. old they say; > to be neutered in couple weeks; 10lbs (needs gain some); Bad stomatitis > (i’ll send pic if u want ): > > A) what’s ur feeling about putting him > back outside?(I’ve never done that; he could get by but My feeling is he > shouldn’t be in the elements and would do better inside)—- just not sure what > will happen if there are no other good options. > > B) at that age and what you are hearing... any sense of lifespan? (I know > it’s hard to say but was guessing 2-4 years or up to a year). my vet said > oldest one he knew of was patient’s who lived to 8y/o. What’s ur feeling of > assessing if he could last a while or if things could go south quickly?? > I guess i’m trying to imagine how long or short term the commitment may be. > > C). He would def . seem to have felv by way of strong stain and stomatitis. > In doing some research, I wonder about the confirmTory IFA test. It seems if > it’s pos. too, that it’s in the bone marrow and no chance shedding it. > > Thanks! > Jennifer > > > > On Jun 9,r 2018, at 1:24 PM, Amani Oakley wrote: > > Jennifer – from your area code, you are no where near me. You need to post > where you are. > > Can I also suggest you get your vet to start him on doxycycline – 50 mg. > daily, for an extended treatment period like 6 weeks. As long as he isn’t > showing other symptoms other than the stomatitis, that should be enough for > now. Even if your vet wants to put him other antibiotics, the Doxycycline > should also be considered alongside other meds. It has
Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 47, Issue 6
about cross-contamination. I agree that someone with a positive > household may be an option. > > Though I doubt it can help with your decision-making (since I understand the > fact that no one can reassure you 100% that nothing will happen), I have had > both FeLV cats and FIP cats enter my household on several occasions. Each > time, my vet would warn that this would “clear out my house” when it came to > the other cats. However, I never had another cat become FeLV positive or FIP > positive. I think that kittens are vulnerable, so I stayed away from taking > on kittens when I had these cats, but other than that, not much else changed. > My FeLV cat lived to age 7, and had had a significant time frame when he was > very ill and therefore likely shedding the virus. I had at last 8 other cats > during this time frame. No one ever got sick. I currently have a FIP+ cat, > and have had her for four years already, and I am shockingly up to 18 cats > (don’t ask - taking in all the neighbourhood strays) and no one else has had > a problem with FIP – AND I had two litters of kittens in the house this past > year, and took in a another kitten who was about 6 months old in October – > again, so far so good. > > Amani > > > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of > Jennifer Minnich > Sent: June-09-18 12:53 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 47, Issue 6 > > Hello, I subscribed a few years ago but have never posted; not even sure > how. > I think I tried and never worked. > Is this a forum to ask advice and/or ask about long term foster or adopter? > Please I hope u will read this. Thank you. > > A male tabby community cat by my house who I befriended turns out to be > double positive.-:( I would notice pain when he was eating so then I > eventually pureed wet food in the blender til was like soup and sat with him > while he ate... I was so happy he’d eat! > Even that was hard sometimes til eventually it was manageable. > > My plan was to neuter/shots/chip/get tested, and adopt. > > Things took a different order b/c I felt so bad about his mouth so I took him > by my vet first to diagnose... well he tested double > positive-:(,and has very bad stomatitis. I got antibiotics, and am > gonna give with collodial silver. He has neuter appt. In a couple weeks. > They think he is > 5-6 y/o. > > I am at a crossroads b/c I do not want to put him back outside-:( yet I > don’t want to expose my cats. > > Speaking to our vet, Adopting him ourselves doesn’t seem too super viable > unless we separate him and we’d wonder or worry about possible cross > contamination. > Vaccinating our indoor cats doesn’t seem practical as it would get costly and > concerning b/c of possible side effects or efficacy. > > Which leads me to: If he were an only cat (or only cat with other animals), > OR in a multi-positive house with experienced felv parents, that would be > options for him.. I just want him to be indoor only, loved, safe, and cared > for; it’s a lot to take on but he’s So worth it and deserves it; he clearly > was overlooked in the neighborhood and now has a chance at at least comfort > care and love;if it can’t be me, my hope is it would be someone who gets > his situation and loves and cares for him no matter what. > To a right home with good people, I would be willing to transport and/or > support $ him if needed. > Do you know of anyone? Is this a forum that > I could ask? > > > Thank you for ur compassion, and time! > Jennifer > 305-298-3709 > > > > > On Jun 8, 2018, at 9:23 PM, Deborah Whorley wrote: > > Latest discussion from this group. Start at the bottom. There were other > -- Forwarded message -- > From: > Date: Fri, Jun 8, 2018 at 1:22 PM > Subject: Felvtalk Digest, Vol 47, Issue 6 > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > > Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to > felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > felvtalk-requ...@felineleukemia.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > felvtalk-ow...@felineleukemia.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > >1. Re: Quentin (Marlene Snowman) > > > ---
Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 47, Issue 6
Hello, I subscribed a few years ago but have never posted; not even sure how. I think I tried and never worked. Is this a forum to ask advice and/or ask about long term foster or adopter? Please I hope u will read this. Thank you. A male tabby community cat by my house who I befriended turns out to be double positive.-:( I would notice pain when he was eating so then I eventually pureed wet food in the blender til was like soup and sat with him while he ate... I was so happy he’d eat! Even that was hard sometimes til eventually it was manageable. My plan was to neuter/shots/chip/get tested, and adopt. Things took a different order b/c I felt so bad about his mouth so I took him by my vet first to diagnose... well he tested double positive-:(,and has very bad stomatitis. I got antibiotics, and am gonna give with collodial silver. He has neuter appt. In a couple weeks. They think he is 5-6 y/o. I am at a crossroads b/c I do not want to put him back outside-:( yet I don’t want to expose my cats. Speaking to our vet, Adopting him ourselves doesn’t seem too super viable unless we separate him and we’d wonder or worry about possible cross contamination. Vaccinating our indoor cats doesn’t seem practical as it would get costly and concerning b/c of possible side effects or efficacy. Which leads me to: If he were an only cat (or only cat with other animals), OR in a multi-positive house with experienced felv parents, that would be options for him.. I just want him to be indoor only, loved, safe, and cared for; it’s a lot to take on but he’s So worth it and deserves it; he clearly was overlooked in the neighborhood and now has a chance at at least comfort care and love;if it can’t be me, my hope is it would be someone who gets his situation and loves and cares for him no matter what. To a right home with good people, I would be willing to transport and/or support $ him if needed. Do you know of anyone? Is this a forum that I could ask? Thank you for ur compassion, and time! Jennifer 305-298-3709 > On Jun 8, 2018, at 9:23 PM, Deborah Whorley wrote: > > Latest discussion from this group. Start at the bottom. There were other > -- Forwarded message -- > From: > Date: Fri, Jun 8, 2018 at 1:22 PM > Subject: Felvtalk Digest, Vol 47, Issue 6 > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > > Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to > felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > felvtalk-requ...@felineleukemia.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > felvtalk-ow...@felineleukemia.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > >1. Re: Quentin (Marlene Snowman) > > > -- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2018 16:22:18 -0300 > From: Marlene Snowman > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Quentin > Message-ID: <14d133e6-4407-4d32-9bb0-e90919acf...@icloud.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Thank you, I appreciate this. > > Marlene > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jun 8, 2018, at 3:48 PM, Amani Oakley wrote: > > > > In my world, my perspective is usually, it can?t hurt. I would at least get > > her on the Doxycycline. It might help with the other problems you are > > having, or not, but I would probably give it a try if it were me. The only > > thing to watch with the Doxycycline is that the hard tablets have been > > known to get stuck in a cat?s throat and cause burning of the eosophagus. I > > have never had that problem but I have heard others speak of it. If that is > > a concern and all you can get are hard tablets, rub them in butter before > > giving them and ensure that the cat is given some yummy canned food > > afterwards to ensure that the pill goes down properly. Others have > > mentioned you can get Doxycycline in liquid form as well. I suspect that > > the problem has been blown out of proportion to the amount of time it > > actually occurs, and just like what happened with Winstrol and the link > > between it and liver damage, it has improperly curtailed the use of > > Doxycycline. I have found Doxycycline (a tetracycline) to ha > ve a truly remarkable range of effectiveness, so with any luck, it may > address whatever is causing the other nose and eye infections. > > > > Amani > > > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of > > Marlene Snowman > > Sent: June-08-18 2:39 PM > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Quentin > > > > Thank you Amani for all of this. My little girl, Bear has never gotten rid
