Re: [Felvtalk] cat attract

[Martha Walton]

My 12 yr old cat recently wet the bed (and #2 on the couch twice).  I got
Dr. Esley's Cat Attract and all my cats love, love, love it.  Meanwhile, to
keep my furniture safe, I put vinyl tablecloths (cheap) over my bed and
sofa during the day.  I also covered my mattress and couch with waterproof
mattress covers, too.  The vinyl tablecloths have flannel on the back and
it keeps it from slipping around.  I found them at Target.

On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 2:01 PM,  wrote:

> **
> also, have you tried dr. elsey's cat attract litter.  it's 100%
> guaranteed.  works great.  cats love it.  can get coupons on ebay
>
>  In a message dated 11/14/2012 12:19:49 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> susan_hoff...@yahoo.com writes:
>
>  I adopted two cats with intermittent litter box issues to a very clever
> adopter a couple of years ago.  These two -- gorgeous Maine Coon sisters --
> would pee where they shouldn't when they were stressed, like with rehoming
> for example.  This adopter covered her sofa with plastic wrap and then
> dabbed vinegar all over it.  She did this for a month while the girls
> settled in and bonded with their litter boxes.  FWIW, it worked.
>
>   *From:* catatonya 
> *To:* "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 14, 2012 10:11 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Bedwetting Cat sofa advice?
>
>   Hi, I'm Tonya. I haven't been on list for quite a while. My positive
> cat DD is doing great. She is going on 14! We had some wetting incidents
> over the summer, and I was sure we were looking at kidneys, but her vet
> visit found her healthy
>
> I am pretty much the queen of waterproofing. And yes it does save heating
> bills in the winter!
>
> My question is this. I have used everything mentioned for beds on sofas to
> no effect. Anyone have a peeproof sofa recommendation besides covering in
> plastic and then covering with sheets? My cat will move and pull all the
> plastic away and get some of the urine on the sofa. I have a sofa and a
> love seat turned upside down in my living room right now where I gave up!
>
> tonya
>
>   *From:* Lee Evans 
> *To:* felvtalk 
> *Sent:* Monday, November 5, 2012 12:44 PM
> *Subject:* [Felvtalk] Bedwetting Cat
>
>
> For the summer, you can get either the disposable large size pads or the
> adult mattress pads that are sold at medical supply shops for adults with
> bladder incontinence.  Hey, I'm the queen of waterproofing.  With all the
> cats I have had, there has always been a bed wetting problem with at least
> one or two of them.  Instead of screaming and tearing my hair out and
> dumping the cat out the door, I used some of my elderly mom's disposable
> mattress pads for a while.  She actually wasn't incontinent but she
> couldn't walk so needed a bed pan, so just in case...I would use the
> mattress pads.  Then I purchased several of the washable types when one of
> my very old cats began thinking the bed was her litter box.  You can also
> purchase a zippered waterproof mattress cover, then put a regular quilted
> mattress topper over it and just toss the topper into the washing machine
> if someone makes a mistake, sponge the waterproof cover with rubbing
> alcohol.  It's a good deodorizer after it evaporates.  But in the summer,
> if you don't want to feel you are being shrink wrapped, you can use the top
> removable types and either toss into the wash or toss into the garbage if
> they are disposable.  The washable are more economical. You can even make
> up the bed in the morning and then put a fitted waterproof mattress topper
> over the whole thing to keep everything good while you are gone.  If an
> accident happens, you just whisk the cover off and you are ready for
> sleeping in the bed.
>
> For the nasty drip into the mattress I would recommend an enzyme type odor
> eliminator.  I used to use Petzyme, which you can purchase at PetsMart.  It
> doesn't have any added scent as a cover up.  Sometimes I think I prefer the
> odor of cat pee to those awful "perfumes" they dump into deodorizers.  When
> you use the enzyme type deodorizer, you have to make sure the spot stays
> wet for at least 24 hours.  If it dries out, by-by little beneficial
> bacteria and the enzyme doesn't work.
> You can Google cat urine neutralizer or deodorizer and see what you come
> up with. There are many brands and many prices.
>
>
> Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty
> neighbors too!
>
>
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Re: [Felvtalk] Fwd: Waterproof sheeting

[Martha Walton]

I get JoAnn's coupons from joining their VIP customer rewards.  Also, look
online http://dealspl.us/joann-coupons

On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 2:49 PM, katskat1  wrote:

> So where can you get the 1/2 off coupons???
>
> k
>
> On 11/5/12, pandie...@aol.com  wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> >  From: pandie...@aol.com
> > To: marthawal...@gmail.com
> > Sent: 11/5/2012  1:10:55 P.M. Central Standard Time
> > Subj: Re: Waterproof sheeting
> >
> >
> >
> > Rubber Sheeting White
> > # 1491315 (I don't know how to do link to you but using your  link this
> is
> > the #)
> > reg. 14.99.  it is half off or more when you use one of  their coupons.
> > Years ago, it came in a lot of different prints.  i  have only found
> white
> > in the past couple of years.  unfortunately, I  don't think it caught on
> or
> >
> > people just don't know about it .
> > I had a baby store and discovered.  Became one of my  best sellers.
>  People
> >
> > loved to line their cribs with it - is 100%  cotton.  I also used on my
> > mattress when I was carrying for my dying  brother and elderly parents.
>  I
> > would cut to size I needed (just snip and  tear).   I guarantee 100%.
>  comes
> > out
> > like new after washing  and putting in dryer.
> > A stress reliever for sure for those of us in rescue.
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 11/5/2012 12:52:15 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> > marthawal...@gmail.com writes:
> >
> > Hello-
> > I saw your posting about the waterproof sheeting sold  at Joanns.
> > I think I know what you are talking about, but I was wondering  if you
> > could find it on their website for me and send me back the name or  link.
> > _http://www.joann.com/search/_waterproof/?psize=48_
> > (http://www.joann.com/search/_waterproof/?psize=48)
> >
> > It  is a great solution, I could even make some slipcovers from the
> > material.
> >
> > Thanks so much, the experience of others makes having cats  much, much
> > easier.
> >
> > Martha
> >
> >
> >
> >
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[Felvtalk] Bedwetting cat solution

[Martha Walton]

Went to the store that the mattress came from.  They sold me a waterproof
cover for $40.
I got one for both of the beds in the house.  The man says it works great
for pet problems.  I put the cover under the mattress pad.  I hope it works.

I put vinegar/water on the soiled spot and it dried quickly with the
ceiling fan on high.

We have a recently adopted cat and there are some battles going on in the
house.  I might try the feliway diffuser.

Oh, also I wanted to add that my couch is covered with carpet protector
that is held onto the couch with upholstery Twist Pins.  On top of that are
two slipcovers.  That's how I have my couch protected.  It's pretty comfy.

Who was that on this board who said to let the cats have the house and the
humans can live in the closets?  ha ha ha



On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 12:44 PM, Lee Evans  wrote:

>
> For the summer, you can get either the disposable large size pads or the
> adult mattress pads that are sold at medical supply shops for adults with
> bladder incontinence.  Hey, I'm the queen of waterproofing.  With all the
> cats I have had, there has always been a bed wetting problem with at least
> one or two of them.  Instead of screaming and tearing my hair out and
> dumping the cat out the door, I used some of my elderly mom's disposable
> mattress pads for a while.  She actually wasn't incontinent but she
> couldn't walk so needed a bed pan, so just in case...I would use the
> mattress pads.  Then I purchased several of the washable types when one of
> my very old cats began thinking the bed was her litter box.  You can also
> purchase a zippered waterproof mattress cover, then put a regular quilted
> mattress topper over it and just toss the topper into the washing machine
> if someone makes a mistake, sponge the waterproof cover with rubbing
> alcohol.  It's a good deodorizer after it evaporates.  But in the summer,
> if you don't want to feel you are being shrink wrapped, you can use the top
> removable types and either toss into the wash or toss into the garbage if
> they are disposable.  The washable are more economical. You can even make
> up the bed in the morning and then put a fitted waterproof mattress topper
> over the whole thing to keep everything good while you are gone.  If an
> accident happens, you just whisk the cover off and you are ready for
> sleeping in the bed.
>
> For the nasty drip into the mattress I would recommend an enzyme type odor
> eliminator.  I used to use Petzyme, which you can purchase at PetsMart.  It
> doesn't have any added scent as a cover up.  Sometimes I think I prefer the
> odor of cat pee to those awful "perfumes" they dump into deodorizers.  When
> you use the enzyme type deodorizer, you have to make sure the spot stays
> wet for at least 24 hours.  If it dries out, by-by little beneficial
> bacteria and the enzyme doesn't work.
> You can Google cat urine neutralizer or deodorizer and see what you come
> up with. There are many brands and many prices.
>
>
> Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty
> neighbors too!
>
>
>
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Re: [Felvtalk] Ozzy and Miss Kitty

[Martha Walton]

Kat, you have such a big heart.  Oz, Miss Kitty are lucky felines.  Thanks
everybody in this group for being so supportive to animals & their humans.

On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 12:18 PM, katskat1  wrote:

> Thanks all.
>
> Surprisingly, Oz appears to have sprayed once and nothing since.  When
> I brought him home from the vet his poor mouth hurt and all he did was
> drink water and sleep.  Now he is up and about, tried leaving the
> bathroom once, and while the other cats hissed at him and the dog
> tried to chase him, nobody sprayed or fought.  Miss Kitty hisses at
> everybody so they hiss back.  It will take a while.
>
> I did get some felaway today to keep on hand.
>
> Kat
>
> On 11/1/12, Kathryn Green  wrote:
> > Tomorrow morning Ozzy goes in for neuter, exam, testing and
> > vaccinations.  Following day Miss Kitty goes with me to pick up Ozzy
> > to get her exam and vaccinations.
> >
> > Gonna have to rob a bank for this but want to get it done quickly as
> > Oz is causing some unrest within the ranks.  My other cats seem to be
> > jealous of an intact male and wanna get thru the door to prove they
> > were here first - or something!
> >
> > So far they are both doing well.
> >
> > Kat
> >
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[Felvtalk] Kitten Sitting & cat wet the bed

[Martha Walton]

The kittens were recently wormed for round worms.  The owner is taking them
to the vet today at 10:30.  The kittens had thrown up & more diarrhea
overnight.

I have another problem that I need help with.  One of my cats peed on the
bed yesterday, urine down to the matress.
I need some odor spray recommendations.
Also, does anybody recommend some kind of waterproof mattress pad cover?


On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 10:47 PM, Lee Evans  wrote:

> Were they dewormed?  Shots are one thing but deworming is important even
> if the test for worms is negative.  Most kittens from street moms or who
> have been abandoned have worms.  Deworming is done prophylactically by most
> rescue organizations.
>
> Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty
> neighbors too!
>
>
>   --
> *From:* Marcia 
> *To:* "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" 
> *Sent:* Sunday, November 4, 2012 5:23 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Kitten Sitting, need suggestion
>
> It didn't work on the virus per say, but the fast growing bacteria in
> their gut. I'm wondering if it could be a water change that is making them
> sick?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 4, 2012, at 4:51 PM, Kathryn Hargreaves 
> wrote:
>
> Wonder how it worked on the virus, or does it work on viruses, too?   Last
> I talked to the vets that treated my kittens (most died), they wouldn't use
> ``controversial'' Tamiflu.   My friend's vet saved her litter that way.
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 1:39 PM, Marcia  wrote:
>
> Diarrhea control gel by van beek clears it right up if its bacterial. I
> had a lot of cats years ago that had been dumped on me and I could not
> catch them to vaccinate. Pretty soon they all started dying, and it was
> panleuk. I had a bottle of excenel that I had used on my Pygmy goat for
> mastitis. It wasn't labeled for cats at that time but I knew it killed fast
> growing bacteria, like toxic shock. Didn't think I had anything to lose so
> I started hitting everyone up with it and it saved their lives! Fortunately
> the next year in the Plumb Veterinary drug Handbook it was labeled for
> cats. 1 mg per lb. 50 mg per ML just in case you ever need it(-:
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 4, 2012, at 4:19 PM, Martha Walton  wrote:
>
> Thanks Kathryn & Christiane.
> Both kittens just had diarrhea, no blood in the stool & no blood in the
> vomit.
>
> She is feeding them wet food, Friskies/wet and Meow Mix/wet.  I have tried
> to get the kittens to eat Before Grain wet food, but they will not eat it.
> The kittens will lap up a little water, but nothing excessive.  Problem is,
> they walk away and vomit up the water.
>
> Kittens were eating good Wednesday, Thursday & Friday.  I gave them some
> dry food on Thursday or Friday night, Natures Variety Instinct.  Maybe
> their tummies just didn't like the new food.
>
> I am very worried, the kittens go back to their home tomorrow AM.  The
> kittens have had the first round of shots & testing.  I have called their
> human parents twice and left two messages.
>
> On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 4:26 PM, Christiane Biagi wrote:
>
> Are they eating the food they usually eat or did they have a change of
> food when they came to your house?  
> ** **
> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf
> Of *Martha Walton
> *Sent:* Sunday, November 04, 2012 3:42 PM
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Subject:* [Felvtalk] Kitten Sitting, need suggestion
> ** **
> I am kitten-sitting two kittens this weekend for a friend.  The kittens
> ate well for the first two days, but yesterday they turned their nose up at
> food.  Today neither kitten is eating and they are both throwing up water.
> Yesterday one of the kittens had diarrhea.  Neither has done #2 today.
> Both kittens are playful, drinking water and alert, but I am very worried
> about them not eating.  I have called their owner and left a message about
> the vomiting.
>
> The owner says that both kittens have been tested for "all diseases".  I
> have not let the kittens have contact with my 5 house-cats.  Today one of
> my cats had some diarrhea, so I am hoping that the kittens are not getting
> my cats sick..
>
> Any suggestions?  The kittens go back to their house tomorrow at 10:00am.
>
> I am using Tidy Cats Pure Nature for their cat litter.
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Re: [Felvtalk] Kitten Sitting, need suggestion

[Martha Walton]

Thanks Kathryn & Christiane.
Both kittens just had diarrhea, no blood in the stool & no blood in the
vomit.

She is feeding them wet food, Friskies/wet and Meow Mix/wet.  I have tried
to get the kittens to eat Before Grain wet food, but they will not eat it.
The kittens will lap up a little water, but nothing excessive.  Problem is,
they walk away and vomit up the water.

Kittens were eating good Wednesday, Thursday & Friday.  I gave them some
dry food on Thursday or Friday night, Natures Variety Instinct.  Maybe
their tummies just didn't like the new food.

I am very worried, the kittens go back to their home tomorrow AM.  The
kittens have had the first round of shots & testing.  I have called their
human parents twice and left two messages.

On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 4:26 PM, Christiane Biagi wrote:

> Are they eating the food they usually eat or did they have a change of
> food when they came to your house?  
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf
> Of *Martha Walton
> *Sent:* Sunday, November 04, 2012 3:42 PM
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Subject:* [Felvtalk] Kitten Sitting, need suggestion
>
> ** **
>
> I am kitten-sitting two kittens this weekend for a friend.  The kittens
> ate well for the first two days, but yesterday they turned their nose up at
> food.  Today neither kitten is eating and they are both throwing up water.
> Yesterday one of the kittens had diarrhea.  Neither has done #2 today.
> Both kittens are playful, drinking water and alert, but I am very worried
> about them not eating.  I have called their owner and left a message about
> the vomiting.
>
> The owner says that both kittens have been tested for "all diseases".  I
> have not let the kittens have contact with my 5 house-cats.  Today one of
> my cats had some diarrhea, so I am hoping that the kittens are not getting
> my cats sick..
>
> Any suggestions?  The kittens go back to their house tomorrow at 10:00am.
>
> I am using Tidy Cats Pure Nature for their cat litter.
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[Felvtalk] Kitten Sitting, need suggestion

[Martha Walton]

I am kitten-sitting two kittens this weekend for a friend.  The kittens ate
well for the first two days, but yesterday they turned their nose up at
food.  Today neither kitten is eating and they are both throwing up water.
Yesterday one of the kittens had diarrhea.  Neither has done #2 today.
Both kittens are playful, drinking water and alert, but I am very worried
about them not eating.  I have called their owner and left a message about
the vomiting.

The owner says that both kittens have been tested for "all diseases".  I
have not let the kittens have contact with my 5 house-cats.  Today one of
my cats had some diarrhea, so I am hoping that the kittens are not getting
my cats sick..

Any suggestions?  The kittens go back to their house tomorrow at 10:00am.

I am using Tidy Cats Pure Nature for their cat litter.
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Re: [Felvtalk] President

[Martha Walton]

I have a cat question:  I just bought some Advantage flea drops and whew,
it's expensive.  I have 5 cats, one of which has a horrible flea-bite
allergy.  Usually I only have to use the drops in the summer months.  All
the cats get the drops.  Does anyone have any suggestions on cheaper flea
drop alternatives?  The cat with the flea-bite allergy is so sensitive, she
can't even get the drops every month, I have to space it out.
I saw on Amazon.com that there are other Advantage drops, one of which
includes cats & rabbits and it is a bit cheaper, packaged for Europe...has
anyone tried it?
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 12:16 PM, Lee Evans  wrote:

> I've never been a list moderator or been a position to direct anything
> except to try to direct a bunch of cats to use the litter boxes.  However,
> let me just add a bit of wisdom or non-wisdom, however you want to view
> it.  Discussing politics and religion usually causes minor skirmishes and
> major wars on any list or even in a group around the dinner table.  We all
> have opinions.  If the opinions are about food, clothing, the color of the
> freshly painted house down the street, why the neighbor would ever buy a
> Chihuahua/Great Dane mix dog or anything but religion and politics, we
> state our opinion, have a chuckle sometimes, compliment each other for
> being able to put a few words together in a sentence and go on with the
> day.  But just start a thread in a group about politics in an election year
> and all h*** breaks loose.  Even if half the list is in agreement that one
> or another candidate is a total screw-up, the other half of the list goes
> bananas and defends their total screw-up to the last flaming word.
> Unfortunately this is because most people don't use logic and research to
> pick a candidate.  So what you get is pure emotion. Other people know deep
> inside that they are supporting someone who isn't exactly wonderful but
> they are not going to vote for that OTHER PARTY because mom, dad, grandma,
> granddad never voted for that PARTY. It is my opinion that most elections
> are based on who can sell the product better and the prejudice of the
> voters for or against the actual person.  I don't mean color or ethnic
> group although that also comes into the mix.  What I mean is that no one
> even goes to check out the facts.  Like we are now having a problem with
> whether Romney strapped his dog carrier to the top of his car.  Or in the
> past, whether Mr. Obama was a citizen of the United States, or whether he
> was a secret Muslim. These are all smoke screens to keep people from
> thinking about real issues, like the price of food constantly going up, how
> much money  the oil companies are actually making when they raise the price
> of gas every time someone mentions Iran or Iraq or any other issue
> important to our daily lives.  If I spend an hour doing a search on how
> many bills were passed by the candidates that benefited me or took away
> something for me, I would do much better as an informed voter than if I
> spent my time reading about Romney's dog or Obama's birth certificate.
> This, I think, is why we get angry with someone who has an opinion that
> does not match ours.  We are not really solidly informed before we take the
> opinion in the first place.  Like standing on the edge of a cliff, afraid
> that someone will push us off and lying to ourselves that if we scream loud
> and long enough, we won't lose our balance.  Maybe we should just stick to
> cats and trade information on how to make their lives better and longer.
>
>
> Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty
> neighbors too!
>
>
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> *From:* Terri Brown 
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Sent:* Friday, October 5, 2012 7:22 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] President
>
>  This is why I don't think we should be discussing this on this list.
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Lorrie 
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Sent:* Friday, October 05, 2012 6:59 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] President
>
> It is true.
>
> On 10-04, Terri Brown wrote:
> >I don't know where you heard that Lorrie, but it's not true.
> >
> >Terri
> >
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Re: [Felvtalk] me and my kitties will pray for Barnaby

[Martha Walton]

Beth, have you gone to the house and called Barnaby?  Maybe he will
recognize your voice.  Recently I adopted a semi-feral kitten that escaped
outside (never open cage door outside to pet cute kitty, duh).  The woman
feeding the kitten had to come over and catch the kitten, the kitten came
to her voice.  Now kitten is inside and well-adjusted.  Maybe Barnaby is
waiting to hear your voice.  My thoughts are with Barnaby, I pray he pulls
through.

On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 8:30 PM, CATHERINE DIDONNA wrote:

> Why did they let him out ? Did he want ot come out? Did you try
> catnip,and sardines?
>
>   *From:* Lynda Wilson 
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 18, 2012 8:06 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Please keep Barnaby in your thoughts
>
>   I pray that he is still alive and they can save him. Keep us posted!
>
> Lynda
>
>  *From:* Sharyl 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 18, 2012 6:39 PM
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Please keep Barnaby in your thoughts
>
>  Will keep Barnaby in my prayers
> Sharyl
>
>   *From:* Beth 
> *To:* FeLV Talk 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 18, 2012 5:28 PM
> *Subject:* [Felvtalk] Please keep Barnaby in your thoughts
>
>   One of my FeLV foster cats, Barnaby, was adopted last week. His
> adopters kept him in a bathroom for 2 days (they were told to give him at
> least 2 weeks to get used to being moved) & then let him out in a house. He
> immediately went in a crawl space in the basement. The space is
> inaccessible. He has not eaten food that has been left in the ceiling. This
> is going on a week now he has not had food or water.
> We are going over tonight to with a "snake" camera which can see into
> tight places. We have to decide whether to cut a hole in the side of the
> house or remove the bathtub.
> Please don't judge this persons involved. Just please keep him in your
> thoughts tonight.
>
> Beth
>
> Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! http://www.furkids.org/
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Re: [Felvtalk] Off topic - Facebook perversion - cats; STOP them!

[Martha Walton]

Oh my goodness, I wish I didn't see that facebook page, I can't stop
crying...   :(

On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 11:41 AM, Lee Evans  wrote:

> This is the type of thing that happens in a society that values aluminum
> cans above the lives of animals.  We no longer want to toss aluminum cans
> into the landfill because they have some value.  Not so cats and dogs.
> Every day millions are killed and tossed into landfills.  Actually, I see
> very little difference between killing and eating a lamb or killing and
> eating a cat, dog or bird.  They all have a Life Force and they all want to
> live.  They have our instinct to run from danger, protect their  young from
> predators, enjoy sunshine and a lovely day.  Then they are rounded up and
> killed, whether for convenience or for culinary pleasure.  Bad system made
> worse by the invasion of the Human Body Snatchers. I clicked on the link
> and now have something else to cry about today. But think about it.  If we
> didn't raise some animals as "food", kill them and print recipes for
> cooking their body parts, this awful page would not exist.
>
> Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty
> neighbors too!
>
>
>   --
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> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Sent:* Sunday, July 1, 2012 8:18 AM
> *Subject:* [Felvtalk] Off topic - Facebook perversion - cats; STOP them!
>
> THE SICK BASTARDS
> https://www.facebook.com/pages/Cat-Recipe-Exchange-Page/257267050986409
> Everyone’s been trying to get this off Facebook – but it seems that they
> are quite within their parameters to allow this garbage!
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Re: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION/reply/reply

[Martha Walton]

My neighbor puts out moth balls to keep raccoons & possums away, but cats
probably don't like the smell, either.

On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 8:44 AM, GRAS  wrote:

> Please don’t trap this time of year, they could still have babies
> somewhere…and depending on the state, laws may prohibit relocation of
> wildlife (as in CT).
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:
> felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf Of *dot winkler
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 31, 2012 7:45 AM
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION/reply/reply
>
> ** **
>
> Hi - That's an idea.  I'm waiting to see if the coon returns.  I just
> restarted the dry food after two weeks of not putting it out.  I'm afraid
> to trap it - it may have babies somewhere.  I'd feel bad.  I read coons
> can't jump or climb but also had some feedback that, yes they can.
> Wondering about this.  Dotty
>
> ** **
> --
>
> *From:* MaiMaiPG 
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 31, 2012 7:41 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION/reply
>
> ** **
>
> Do they have battery operated radios that have timers?  Be aware that
> coons can destroy about anything.  If this is one coon or maybe two, can
> you trap it and relocate it?  
>
> On May 31, 2012, at 6:32 AM, dot winkler wrote:
>
>
>
> 
>
> Hi Martha - I don't live nearby.  I live in the next town over.  I drive
> over there once a day.  Wish i did.  That would be a good idea if I could
> have noise at night to deter the critters!  Thanks
>
> ** **
> --
>
> *From:* Martha Walton 
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 29, 2012 6:13 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION
>
> ** **
>
> A radio playing at night has reduced the raccoon visits at our
> chicken-coop, maybe it would help with the cat situation?
>
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Re: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION

[Martha Walton]

A radio playing at night has reduced the raccoon visits at our
chicken-coop, maybe it would help with the cat situation?


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Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV+ Cat - Chincoteague Island - URGENT-Transportation Available

[Martha Walton]

***JennyLee Savingdogsandcats
on Facebook wants to put
up a post & picture of Storm on Facebook.  Can
someone send her a photo, or send the photo to me and I can send it to
her.  *

On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 9:46 PM,  wrote:

> If she is not comfortable with mixing because of the vet's say so, maybe
> she should try another vet who is enlightened.  Storm sounds like a real
> lover and and it would be a shame to miss out on his company just because
> he is felv+.  I have 2 positives and 5 negatives including 2 kittens I
> brught home at age 3 months.  I did keep the kittens seperate until they
> had all their shots up to date.  They all mix now and 1 kitten Harley
> aggrevates the older ones to death.  So far, slaps nd hisses, but no
> biting,  (and if anyone would bite, it would be Annie and Nitnoy.
>  Especially Nitnoy snce she got her tail removed by a raccoon.  She does
> not like being approached from the rear and does not hesitate to let you
> know) but even then, my vet said if the negatives are up to date on shots,
> I sould not have a problem.  The kittens are now over 1-1/2 years old, and
> healthy as can be - no sign they are having problems from contact with
> Annie and Nitnoy.
>
> I am not putting her down, she is doing her best for this cat.  I just
> think she will be missing ot on a real lover if she does not take him.  Is
> the vet sure he is really positive?  Would retesting be called for?  Since
> he is neuteed, he must be past thekitten stage and his immune system could
> have it controlled by now.  Don't hey always test positive once thy have
> had contact?
>
>  Cindy McHugh  wrote:
> > She's not comfortable exposing her cat to him, even with the
> vaccination. I
> > understand this is controversial, but I can see her point. When I was
> > fostering a FeLV+ cat, I wouldn't allow him contact with my own cats.
> >
> > Short of bringing him into her home, she's doing everything she can to
> save
> > this cat, offering to cover all of his vet bills and even get him a
> dental.
> > And I don't think she's even nearby, as I believe she lives in WV and the
> > cat is on Chincoteage Island.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Cindy
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "katskat1" 
> > To: 
> > Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2011 12:01 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV+ Cat - Chincoteague Island -
> > URGENT-Transportation Available
> >
> >
> > > Can't/won't she mix them?  I have mixed neg/pos for years with no
> > > problem as long as the negatives are up to date on the dreaded FeLV
> > > shots.
> > >
> > > Kat
> > >
> > > On 11/19/11, Cindy McHugh  wrote:
> > >> The woman trying to help the cat on Chincoteague Island sent me some
> > >> additional information, so I thought I'd share it here.
> > >>
> > >> He only has 11 days to find a home, foster, or rescue. Please feel
> free
> > >> to
> > >> crosspost.
> > >>
> > >> Thanks,
> > >> Cindy
> > >>
> > >> Here's the info she sent:
> > >>
> > >> There is a resident population of feral cats at Tom's Cove Campground.
> > >> Some
> > >> of the people living there put food out.  Occasionally a cat is
> trapped
> > >> and
> > >> taken to
> > >> an area vet.  Storm showed up after Hurricane Irene.  He was trapped
> and
> > >> taken to the vet to get shaved down because he was badly matted and
> > >> infested
> > >> with fleas.  At the vet's it was discovered he was already neutered.
>  His
> > >> ears were not notched and he has no microchip.
> > >>
> > >> Storm has not shown any aggression at all.  He is fed separately, but
> the
> > >> other cats don't bother him.  He is not feral.  I was asked if I would
> > >> take
> > >> him home with me when I visited in October.  I took him to the local
> vet
> > >> to
> > >> be tested and that is when it was discovered that he is FeLV+.  I
> have a
> > >> 3yo
> > >> female cat who is FeLV-.  There is no way I could keep him separated
> from
> > >> my
> > >> cat.
> > >>
> > >> While the rest of the colony will survive the winter, it is doubtful
> if
> > >> Storm would make it through the winter outside and without a regular
> > >> source
> > >> of food.  The campground where he is now closes at the end of
> November.
> > >> I
> > >> honestly think he would make a wonderful pet.
> > >>
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Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV+ Cat - Chincoteague Island - URGENT -Transportation Available

[Martha Walton]

John, I know that Tigger would want you to have your heart open to a cat in
need (Storm).
You have the support of a great fellowship of cat lovers.
Over the past 2 years I have lost 3 cats to old age/disease and I
immediately found 3 loving cats that needed a home.
Nothing will replace Tigger, but every new cat brings so much joy.
Good luck with all things feline.

On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 8:06 AM, john pollack  wrote:

> not sure what part of me is talking. just lost my felv boy Tigger yesterday
>   --
> *From:* Cindy McHugh 
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Sent:* Saturday, November 19, 2011 7:49 AM
>
> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV+ Cat - Chincoteague Island - URGENT
> -Transportation Available
>
> **
> Thanks for your inquiry about Storm. I'm not sure how he is with other
> cats, but I'll certainly find out. I'll get back to you as soon as I have
> an answer.
>
> Thanks again,
> Cindy
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* john pollack 
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Sent:* Saturday, November 19, 2011 7:46 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV+ Cat - Chincoteague Island - URGENT
> -Transportation Available
>
> is he good with other cats??
>  --
> *From:* Cindy McHugh 
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Sent:* Saturday, November 19, 2011 2:34 AM
> *Subject:* [Felvtalk] FeLV+ Cat - Chincoteague Island - URGENT -
> Transportation Available
>
>  I was contacted by someone whose friend has been feeding a stray cat
> that's living in a seasonal mobile home park on Chincoteague Island. The
> park closes at the end of November and the person who has been feeding it
> is going to live with relatives, where the cat is not welcome.
>
> The woman who contacted me is desperate to find a place for the cat by the
> end of November and she's willing to cover all vetting costs herself.
> Transportation is also available most anywhere.
>
> The cat is called Storm because he showed up after Hurricane Irene. He's a
> long-haired black and white neutered male.
>
> If you know of anyone who can help, please contact me and I'll put you in
> touch with the woman who's trying so hard to save this poor baby. He's had
> a lot of tough breaks in his life. He deserves another chance.
>
> Thank you.
> Cindy
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Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question

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Peaches was tested for FeLV this morning, negative result!  Good news for
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Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question

[Martha Walton]

Just called Peaches' former Vet.
They will test her for FeLV tomorrow.  Peaches was going to a
Bainfield/PetSmart.  I'll let you know the results of the test!!

On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 1:41 PM, Christiane Biagi wrote:

> Vet is confusing FIV and FELV vaccines.  Cats test pos for FIV after being
> vaccinated for FIV but do NOT test pos for FELV after FELV vaccination.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Martha Walton
> Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 1:38 PM
> To: Katy Doyle
> Cc: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question
>
> Thanks everyone!  My vet told me that Peaches would test positive because
> she's had the FeLV vaccination.
> I think I will call the vet that Peaches former owners took her to & ask
> them to test Peaches.
> Thanks for the advice, I'll let you know what they say.
>
> On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 1:16 PM, Katy Doyle  >wrote:
>
> > It's not uncommon in Kentucky for shelters/rescues to just vaccinate
> > the cat instead of testing them.
> >
> > Lately, all I have done is fight to get them to test the animals.
> > Apparently "it costs too much" - but I think the cost is worth saving
> > other cats from getting exposed to FeLV.
> >
> >
> > I'd say test Peaches, the vaccination doesn't cause the test to come
> > out positive, so you should get a fairly accurate reading.
> >
> > Then go ahead and get everyone fully vaccinated against FeLV, just in
> > case =^_^=
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 1:10 PM, molvey...@hotmail.com <
> > molvey...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I think I would definitely get Peaches tested.  If all your cats are
> >> indoors only they really don't need to be vaccinated against FeLV.
> >> Only if there's a chance they could get it.  But if you're not
> >> letting them out and you're not fostering other cats  then there's no
> >> risk of exposure to the virus so no real need for a vaccination.  If
> >> all your other cats have been tested and are negative also then
> >> Peaches wouldn't need the vaccination either.  So as long as her
> >> combo test is negative, then you really don't need to worry about
> >> Nibbles.  It's totally up to you though.  Just my thoughts. Course if
> >> Peaches' test is positive definitely get Nibbles up to speed.  And I
> >> think he does need to do the series of two shots over again if you
> decide
> to get him current like Lynda said.
> >>
> >> Thanks for giving Peaches a home.  And kick that other lady in the
> >> butt for kicking Peaches out of the house just because she had a baby.
> >>
> >> Maureen
> >>
> >> sent from my AT&T Smartphone by HTC
> >>
> >> - Reply message -
> >> From: "Martha Walton" 
> >> Date: Thu, Aug 4, 2011 11:52 am
> >> Subject: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question
> >>  To: 
> >>
> >> The family that owned Peaches found her abandoned outside a vacant
> >> apartment.  Their neighbor moved out, but left the cat.  They took
> >> Peaches to the vet to discover that Peaches already was spayed.  I
> >> don't know why the Vet gave her Feline Leukemia vaccinations without
> testing her first.
> >> They kept Peaches for almost 2 years and properly vetted her, wife
> >> had a baby and they didn't want Peaches anymore.  That's how Peaches
> >> came to live here.
> >>
> >> I am going to take her to the Vet to have her tested and will go
> >> ahead and give Nibbles vaccinations.
> >> I'll let you know what the vet says.
> >> Thanks for all your help!!  It has been hard to get information about
> >> what to do.
> >>
> >> On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 5:01 PM, Lynda Wilson
> >>  >> >wrote:
> >>
> >> > Martha, you will have to start over on Nibbles. Once you get the
> >> > first shot, you have to get the second within 3 weeks of the first
> >> > for it to
> >> be
> >> > effective.
> >> >
> >> > It would be wise to have Peaches tested. Getting her the
> >> > vaccination against FeLV will not show a positive test like the FIV
> >> > would.  I would
> >> keep
> >> > her separate from the others of course, until her worms are gone
> >> >

Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question

[Martha Walton]

Thanks everyone!  My vet told me that Peaches would test positive because
she's had the FeLV vaccination.
I think I will call the vet that Peaches former owners took her to & ask
them to test Peaches.
Thanks for the advice, I'll let you know what they say.

On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 1:16 PM, Katy Doyle wrote:

> It's not uncommon in Kentucky for shelters/rescues to just vaccinate the
> cat instead of testing them.
>
> Lately, all I have done is fight to get them to test the animals.
> Apparently "it costs too much" - but I think the cost is worth saving other
> cats from getting exposed to FeLV.
>
>
> I'd say test Peaches, the vaccination doesn't cause the test to come out
> positive, so you should get a fairly accurate reading.
>
> Then go ahead and get everyone fully vaccinated against FeLV, just in case
> =^_^=
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 1:10 PM, molvey...@hotmail.com <
> molvey...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I think I would definitely get Peaches tested.  If all your cats are
>> indoors only they really don't need to be vaccinated against FeLV.  Only if
>> there's a chance they could get it.  But if you're not letting them out and
>> you're not fostering other cats  then there's no risk of exposure to the
>> virus so no real need for a vaccination.  If all your other cats have been
>> tested and are negative also then Peaches wouldn't need the vaccination
>> either.  So as long as her combo test is negative, then you really don't
>> need to worry about Nibbles.  It's totally up to you though.  Just my
>> thoughts. Course if Peaches' test is positive definitely get Nibbles up to
>> speed.  And I think he does need to do the series of two shots over again if
>> you decide to get him current like Lynda said.
>>
>> Thanks for giving Peaches a home.  And kick that other lady in the butt
>> for kicking Peaches out of the house just because she had a baby.
>>
>> Maureen
>>
>> sent from my AT&T Smartphone by HTC
>>
>> - Reply message -
>> From: "Martha Walton" 
>> Date: Thu, Aug 4, 2011 11:52 am
>> Subject: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question
>>  To: 
>>
>> The family that owned Peaches found her abandoned outside a vacant
>> apartment.  Their neighbor moved out, but left the cat.  They took Peaches
>> to the vet to discover that Peaches already was spayed.  I don't know why
>> the Vet gave her Feline Leukemia vaccinations without testing her first.
>> They kept Peaches for almost 2 years and properly vetted her, wife had a
>> baby and they didn't want Peaches anymore.  That's how Peaches came to
>> live
>> here.
>>
>> I am going to take her to the Vet to have her tested and will go ahead and
>> give Nibbles vaccinations.
>> I'll let you know what the vet says.
>> Thanks for all your help!!  It has been hard to get information about what
>> to do.
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 5:01 PM, Lynda Wilson > >wrote:
>>
>> > Martha, you will have to start over on Nibbles. Once you get the first
>> > shot, you have to get the second within 3 weeks of the first for it to
>> be
>> > effective.
>> >
>> > It would be wise to have Peaches tested. Getting her the vaccination
>> > against FeLV will not show a positive test like the FIV would.  I would
>> keep
>> > her separate from the others of course, until her worms are gone and she
>> has
>> > had two FeLV tests that have the same result. Glad all the others are
>> all
>> > current! Your a good momma to be cautious.
>> >
>> > I hope this helps, we all try to share our experiences and knowledge on
>> > this forum, but we are not experts :)
>> >
>> > Keep us posted.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > L
>> > - Original Message - From: "Martha Walton" <
>> marthawal...@gmail.com
>> > >
>> > To: 
>> > Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 2:17 PM
>> > Subject: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question
>> >
>> >
>> >  We have a new addition (Peaches) to my household, making a total of 4
>> >> cats.
>> >> Need advice on Feline Leukemia Vaccinations.
>> >>
>> >> I have not introduced new cat (Peaches) to my other cats, as I want to
>> >> make
>> >> sure all are safe against feline leukemia. Peaches is up to date with
>> all
>> >> shots, but waiting on vet to do fe

Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question

[Martha Walton]

The family that owned Peaches found her abandoned outside a vacant
apartment.  Their neighbor moved out, but left the cat.  They took Peaches
to the vet to discover that Peaches already was spayed.  I don't know why
the Vet gave her Feline Leukemia vaccinations without testing her first.
They kept Peaches for almost 2 years and properly vetted her, wife had a
baby and they didn't want Peaches anymore.  That's how Peaches came to live
here.

I am going to take her to the Vet to have her tested and will go ahead and
give Nibbles vaccinations.
I'll let you know what the vet says.
Thanks for all your help!!  It has been hard to get information about what
to do.

On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 5:01 PM, Lynda Wilson wrote:

> Martha, you will have to start over on Nibbles. Once you get the first
> shot, you have to get the second within 3 weeks of the first for it to be
> effective.
>
> It would be wise to have Peaches tested. Getting her the vaccination
> against FeLV will not show a positive test like the FIV would.  I would keep
> her separate from the others of course, until her worms are gone and she has
> had two FeLV tests that have the same result. Glad all the others are all
> current! Your a good momma to be cautious.
>
> I hope this helps, we all try to share our experiences and knowledge on
> this forum, but we are not experts :)
>
> Keep us posted.
>
> Thanks,
> L
> - Original Message - From: "Martha Walton"  >
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 2:17 PM
> Subject: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question
>
>
>  We have a new addition (Peaches) to my household, making a total of 4
>> cats.
>> Need advice on Feline Leukemia Vaccinations.
>>
>> I have not introduced new cat (Peaches) to my other cats, as I want to
>> make
>> sure all are safe against feline leukemia. Peaches is up to date with all
>> shots, but waiting on vet to do fecal because I saw a tapeworm.
>> Peaches is sequestered to basement. Very comfy down there.
>>
>> Here's the situation:
>>
>> *Peaches* (New Cat)
>> Age: 4.5 yr
>> Current vaccination for Feline Leukemia, but *was never tested* before
>> vaccination.
>> Peaches was never tested for Feline Leukemia, she was given 1st & 2nd
>> feline
>> leukemia in 2009.
>> She also had a vaccination in 2010
>>
>> I have 3 other cats:
>> All cats will stay indoors!
>>
>> *Nibbles *(got from shelter when 1 yr. old)
>> Age: 2.5
>> Nibbles had 1st Feline Leukemia shot 3/23/11, but not 2nd Feline Leukemia
>> shot.
>> Didn't get 2nd: worrying about tumors & didn't think that I would "rescue"
>> a
>> cat again and planning on keeping all cats indoors.
>> *However, I rescued another cat.*
>> Should I go ahead and give Nibbles her second shot of the series, or is it
>> too late??
>>
>> *Littlebit*
>> Age: 11
>> Current Feline Leukemia vacc
>>
>> *Lacy*
>> Age: 6 months
>> Current Feline Leukemia vacc
>>
>> What do you think I should do???
>> Should I go ahead and give Nibbles her second shot of the series, or is it
>> too late??
>> Should I get Peaches tested for Feline Leukemia??
>>
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[Martha Walton]

We have a new addition (Peaches) to my household, making a total of 4 cats.
Need advice on Feline Leukemia Vaccinations.

I have not introduced new cat (Peaches) to my other cats, as I want to make
sure all are safe against feline leukemia. Peaches is up to date with all
shots, but waiting on vet to do fecal because I saw a tapeworm.
Peaches is sequestered to basement. Very comfy down there.

Here's the situation:

*Peaches* (New Cat)
Age: 4.5 yr
Current vaccination for Feline Leukemia, but *was never tested* before
vaccination.
Peaches was never tested for Feline Leukemia, she was given 1st & 2nd feline
leukemia in 2009.
She also had a vaccination in 2010

I have 3 other cats:
All cats will stay indoors!

*Nibbles *(got from shelter when 1 yr. old)
Age: 2.5
Nibbles had 1st Feline Leukemia shot 3/23/11, but not 2nd Feline Leukemia
shot.
Didn't get 2nd: worrying about tumors & didn't think that I would "rescue" a
cat again and planning on keeping all cats indoors.
*However, I rescued another cat.*
Should I go ahead and give Nibbles her second shot of the series, or is it
too late??

*Littlebit*
Age: 11
Current Feline Leukemia vacc

*Lacy*
Age: 6 months
Current Feline Leukemia vacc

What do you think I should do???
Should I go ahead and give Nibbles her second shot of the series, or is it
too late??
Should I get Peaches tested for Feline Leukemia??

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