Re: [Felvtalk] Tweezer sneezing blood
Sally, where do you get Lysine in gel form? from vet or health fodd store? i don't need it now, but would like to be prepared if and when i do. dorlis SALLY NORDSTROM ms...@sbcglobal.net wrote: My vet gave my Lysine in a gel form. I put a little bit on their paws and they lick it off. Yes we can! - Barack Obama Sally --- On Tue, 11/18/08, Brenda Waterson blwater...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Brenda Waterson blwater...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tweezer sneezing blood To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, November 18, 2008, 1:45 PM Hi Sue, This is the second half of the information I rec'd from Dr. Fiona from Just answer.com 2. Long term antibiotics. My own cat had this problem when I adopted him. I kept him on (clindamycin) for 6 weeks. Here is more about this antibiotic: http://www.petplace.com/drug-library/clindamycin-antirobe/page1.aspx I am not suggesting that the antibiotics your vet has chosen are not appropriate… the truth is that unless we do a culture (take a sample of the nasal discharge from the back of the throat and send it to a lab for analysis) we are just guessing what might be growing in there and what antibiotic might kill it. A culture and sensitivity test gives us answers! More about this test here: http://www.petplace.com/cats/culture-and-sensitivity-in-cats/page1.aspx 3. Antibiotic nasal drops are quite effective. I use gentocin ophthalmic instilled intranasally like a nasal spray twice daily. 4. If you want to try something without going back to your vet, go to the pharmacy and ask for ophthalmic saline, or have a look in the contact lens section. What you want it just sterile saline drops to relieve dry eyes - NO medication in it. The pharmacist should be able to point it out to you. Put one drop in each nostril twice daily. The idea is that you are helping to moisten the area so your cat can sneeze out any congestion in there. Continue for a week. 5. You can also try steaming him in the bathroom 2 or 3 times a day. Basically, you take him in, close the door and turn on a hot shower. The steam will also help to loosen any congestion in his nasal sinuses so he can sneeze it out. 6. Consider buying a humidifier. This works the same way as the steaming in the bathroom.. 7. He may need 2 antibiotics given at the same time for a longer period of time. I like zithromax and baytril together. 8. He may have a resistant infection of Pseudomonas in there. This means it is resistant to most antibiotics. If other antibiotics haven't worked, ask your vet about carbenicillin as it is a drug that seems to work well in some of these cases. Here is more: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbenicillin 9. Another medication to consider is Famciclovir. It is expensive! It is an anti-viral medication. Here is more: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Famciclovir 10. Herpes virus may be part of the problem. So, it may be useful to put your cat on Lysine capsules. Herpes viruses need an amino acid called arginine to replicate and survive. If you give lysine, it substitutes in for arginine but does NOT allow the virus to replicate! Thus, it can stop the virus and really help the cat's immune system to win. You can pick up Lysine at most health food stores. I usually suggest that cats be given 250mg twice daily for 3 weeks. The capsules with powder in them are easiest to give, as you can simply open it, and mix the powder in with some canned food. You can read more about it here: http://www.thensome.com/herpes.htm I hope this info. has been helpful to you and Tweezer. From: Sue Frank Koren fs...@roadrunner.com To: FeLV Talk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 12:55:30 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Tweezer sneezing blood My two year old FeLV+ kitty Tweezer has been sneezing blood for a few days. (At first we didn't know where it was coming from, we were just seeing tiny blood droplets on the floor.) Last night we saw what was happening. He sounds a little stuffy, but he has sounded that way since we got him. My problem is that my usual vet who is good with my positive kittys is on vacation until the 24th of November. I personally consider the associates in his practice to be less then adequate for a positive kittys specail problems. I am trying to decide if I should wait for my usual vet (Possibly start Tweezer on some Doxycycline in the mean time), take them to one of the other vets in the practice and hope that this problem is something they can handle, or maybe take him to an internist I have been to before with one of my other cats. I guess it all depends on why this is happening to him. Has anyone ever had a cat sneeze blood droplets? ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo
Re: [Felvtalk] Tweezer sneezing blood
Hi Sue Frank, I have a FeLV + kitty who had a bad upper respiratory infection that was sneezing green mucous and eventually turned into blood. He was on amoxi drops, clavimox and now doxycycline. The last vet appointment Spazzy's vet wasn't at all concerned about him sneezing the blood just decided to put him on a stronger antibiotic which is the doxycycline. She stated his nasal passages could be damaged because he has the upper respiratory infection for so long ( he was a stray I recently took in). However my vet is new to the world of feline leukemia + cats so I did a little internet investigation as to what it could be, I also found a web site www.justanswer.com there is a fee but you choose the fee and basically you ask a question and a Vet will respond if your satified with the Vet's answer then you can accept for the payment to go through if not then you won't be charged. Anyhow I dealt with a Dr. Finona from the website she had given me allot of info. regarding my kitty sneezing bloodmore than what my own vet did. Here are some of the things she suggested I do for my boy. Vet's quoteStart with a physical exam to make sure there isn't a foreign body stuck in the cats retropharyngeal area. What can happen is that a cat swallows a blade of grass, but mid-swallow, if they sneeze, it can shoot the blade of grass up into the area at the back of the throat where the nasal passageways meet the throat. This is called the retropharyngeal area. Then, the blade of grass or foxtail can be trapped there. This causes irritation and erosion of the sensitive membranes up there, which leads to sneezing, mucus discharge and eventually bloody discharge. Other possibilities are nasal polyps, a growth, nasal parasites (mites) or a fungal infection, or a tooth root abscess but these are far less likely than a nasal foreign body. There is allot of information Dr. Fiona emailed back to me I'm going to send that separately from this email because it's too large and will bog down the system.. I hope this information is helpful to you and Tweezer I wish you both the very best of luck! Brenda From: catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 4:55:29 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tweezer sneezing blood No, but I would start with running a humidifier. It could be (depending on where you live) simply due to the dry air caused by running the heater in this colder weather. Just an idea. tonya Sue Frank Koren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My two year old FeLV+ kitty Tweezer has been sneezing blood for a few days. (At first we didn't know where it was coming from, we were just seeing tiny blood droplets on the floor.) Last night we saw what was happening. He sounds a little stuffy, but he has sounded that way since we got him. My problem is that my usual vet who is good with my positive kittys is on vacation until the 24th of November. I personally consider the associates in his practice to be less then adequate for a positive kittys specail problems. I am trying to decide if I should wait for my usual vet (Possibly start Tweezer on some Doxycycline in the mean time), take them to one of the other vets in the practice and hope that this problem is something they can handle, or maybe take him to an internist I have been to before with one of my other cats. I guess it all depends on why this is happening to him. Has anyone ever had a cat sneeze blood droplets? ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Tweezer sneezing blood
Brenda, Thank you so much for the information. Tweezer is still sneezing but not as much and he was and is still acting like a happy little kitten even though he is around two years old. He was extremely malnourished and was pretty sick when I got him. I have not been paying as close attention to his situation at this point because one of my other positives, Buzz, is very sick and I am giving him most of my time. Since Tweezer does not seem to be in crisis right now I am waiting for my vet to get back from vacation to take him in. I would like to show him the information you have sent to possibly help with Tweezers diagnosis. Again, thank you very much, I really appreciate it. Sue Brenda Waterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Sue Frank, I have a FeLV + kitty who had a bad upper respiratory infection that was sneezing green mucous and eventually turned into blood. He was on amoxi drops, clavimox and now doxycycline. The last vet appointment Spazzy's vet wasn't at all concerned about him sneezing the blood just decided to put him on a stronger antibiotic which is the doxycycline. She stated his nasal passages could be damaged because he has the upper respiratory infection for so long ( he was a stray I recently took in). However my vet is new to the world of feline leukemia + cats so I did a little internet investigation as to what it could be, I also found a web site www.justanswer.com there is a fee but you choose the fee and basically you ask a question and a Vet will respond if your satified with the Vet's answer then you can accept for the payment to go through if not then you won't be charged. Anyhow I dealt with a Dr. Finona from the website she had given me allot of info. regarding my kitty sneezing bloodmore than what my own vet did. Here are some of the things she suggested I do for my boy. Vet's quoteStart with a physical exam to make sure there isn't a foreign body stuck in the cats retropharyngeal area. What can happen is that a cat swallows a blade of grass, but mid-swallow, if they sneeze, it can shoot the blade of grass up into the area at the back of the throat where the nasal passageways meet the throat. This is called the retropharyngeal area. Then, the blade of grass or foxtail can be trapped there. This causes irritation and erosion of the sensitive membranes up there, which leads to sneezing, mucus discharge and eventually bloody discharge. Other possibilities are nasal polyps, a growth, nasal parasites (mites) or a fungal infection, or a tooth root abscess but these are far less likely than a nasal foreign body. There is allot of information Dr. Fiona emailed back to me I'm going to send that separately from this email because it's too large and will bog down the system.. I hope this information is helpful to you and Tweezer I wish you both the very best of luck! Brenda From: catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 4:55:29 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tweezer sneezing blood No, but I would start with running a humidifier. It could be (depending on where you live) simply due to the dry air caused by running the heater in this colder weather. Just an idea. tonya Sue Frank Koren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My two year old FeLV+ kitty Tweezer has been sneezing blood for a few days. (At first we didn't know where it was coming from, we were just seeing tiny blood droplets on the floor.) Last night we saw what was happening. He sounds a little stuffy, but he has sounded that way since we got him. My problem is that my usual vet who is good with my positive kittys is on vacation until the 24th of November. I personally consider the associates in his practice to be less then adequate for a positive kittys specail problems. I am trying to decide if I should wait for my usual vet (Possibly start Tweezer on some Doxycycline in the mean time), take them to one of the other vets in the practice and hope that this problem is something they can handle, or maybe take him to an internist I have been to before with one of my other cats. I guess it all depends on why this is happening to him. Has anyone ever had a cat sneeze blood droplets? ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http
Re: [Felvtalk] Tweezer sneezing blood
Hi Sue, This is the second half of the information I rec'd from Dr. Fiona from Just answer.com 2. Long term antibiotics. My own cat had this problem when I adopted him. I kept him on (clindamycin) for 6 weeks. Here is more about this antibiotic: http://www.petplace.com/drug-library/clindamycin-antirobe/page1.aspx I am not suggesting that the antibiotics your vet has chosen are not appropriate… the truth is that unless we do a culture (take a sample of the nasal discharge from the back of the throat and send it to a lab for analysis) we are just guessing what might be growing in there and what antibiotic might kill it. A culture and sensitivity test gives us answers! More about this test here: http://www.petplace.com/cats/culture-and-sensitivity-in-cats/page1.aspx 3. Antibiotic nasal drops are quite effective. I use gentocin ophthalmic instilled intranasally like a nasal spray twice daily. 4. If you want to try something without going back to your vet, go to the pharmacy and ask for ophthalmic saline, or have a look in the contact lens section. What you want it just sterile saline drops to relieve dry eyes - NO medication in it. The pharmacist should be able to point it out to you. Put one drop in each nostril twice daily. The idea is that you are helping to moisten the area so your cat can sneeze out any congestion in there. Continue for a week. 5. You can also try steaming him in the bathroom 2 or 3 times a day. Basically, you take him in, close the door and turn on a hot shower. The steam will also help to loosen any congestion in his nasal sinuses so he can sneeze it out. 6. Consider buying a humidifier. This works the same way as the steaming in the bathroom.. 7. He may need 2 antibiotics given at the same time for a longer period of time. I like zithromax and baytril together. 8. He may have a resistant infection of Pseudomonas in there. This means it is resistant to most antibiotics. If other antibiotics haven't worked, ask your vet about carbenicillin as it is a drug that seems to work well in some of these cases. Here is more: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbenicillin 9. Another medication to consider is Famciclovir. It is expensive! It is an anti-viral medication. Here is more: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Famciclovir 10. Herpes virus may be part of the problem. So, it may be useful to put your cat on Lysine capsules. Herpes viruses need an amino acid called arginine to replicate and survive. If you give lysine, it substitutes in for arginine but does NOT allow the virus to replicate! Thus, it can stop the virus and really help the cat's immune system to win. You can pick up Lysine at most health food stores. I usually suggest that cats be given 250mg twice daily for 3 weeks. The capsules with powder in them are easiest to give, as you can simply open it, and mix the powder in with some canned food. You can read more about it here: http://www.thensome.com/herpes.htm I hope this info. has been helpful to you and Tweezer. From: Sue Frank Koren [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FeLV Talk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 12:55:30 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Tweezer sneezing blood My two year old FeLV+ kitty Tweezer has been sneezing blood for a few days. (At first we didn't know where it was coming from, we were just seeing tiny blood droplets on the floor.) Last night we saw what was happening. He sounds a little stuffy, but he has sounded that way since we got him. My problem is that my usual vet who is good with my positive kittys is on vacation until the 24th of November. I personally consider the associates in his practice to be less then adequate for a positive kittys specail problems. I am trying to decide if I should wait for my usual vet (Possibly start Tweezer on some Doxycycline in the mean time), take them to one of the other vets in the practice and hope that this problem is something they can handle, or maybe take him to an internist I have been to before with one of my other cats. I guess it all depends on why this is happening to him. Has anyone ever had a cat sneeze blood droplets? ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Tweezer sneezing blood
My vet gave my Lysine in a gel form. I put a little bit on their paws and they lick it off. Yes we can! - Barack Obama Sally --- On Tue, 11/18/08, Brenda Waterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Brenda Waterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tweezer sneezing blood To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, November 18, 2008, 1:45 PM Hi Sue, This is the second half of the information I rec'd from Dr. Fiona from Just answer.com 2. Long term antibiotics. My own cat had this problem when I adopted him. I kept him on (clindamycin) for 6 weeks. Here is more about this antibiotic: http://www.petplace.com/drug-library/clindamycin-antirobe/page1.aspx I am not suggesting that the antibiotics your vet has chosen are not appropriate… the truth is that unless we do a culture (take a sample of the nasal discharge from the back of the throat and send it to a lab for analysis) we are just guessing what might be growing in there and what antibiotic might kill it. A culture and sensitivity test gives us answers! More about this test here: http://www.petplace.com/cats/culture-and-sensitivity-in-cats/page1.aspx 3. Antibiotic nasal drops are quite effective. I use gentocin ophthalmic instilled intranasally like a nasal spray twice daily. 4. If you want to try something without going back to your vet, go to the pharmacy and ask for ophthalmic saline, or have a look in the contact lens section. What you want it just sterile saline drops to relieve dry eyes - NO medication in it. The pharmacist should be able to point it out to you. Put one drop in each nostril twice daily. The idea is that you are helping to moisten the area so your cat can sneeze out any congestion in there. Continue for a week. 5. You can also try steaming him in the bathroom 2 or 3 times a day. Basically, you take him in, close the door and turn on a hot shower. The steam will also help to loosen any congestion in his nasal sinuses so he can sneeze it out. 6. Consider buying a humidifier. This works the same way as the steaming in the bathroom.. 7. He may need 2 antibiotics given at the same time for a longer period of time. I like zithromax and baytril together. 8. He may have a resistant infection of Pseudomonas in there. This means it is resistant to most antibiotics. If other antibiotics haven't worked, ask your vet about carbenicillin as it is a drug that seems to work well in some of these cases. Here is more: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbenicillin 9. Another medication to consider is Famciclovir. It is expensive! It is an anti-viral medication. Here is more: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Famciclovir 10. Herpes virus may be part of the problem. So, it may be useful to put your cat on Lysine capsules. Herpes viruses need an amino acid called arginine to replicate and survive. If you give lysine, it substitutes in for arginine but does NOT allow the virus to replicate! Thus, it can stop the virus and really help the cat's immune system to win. You can pick up Lysine at most health food stores. I usually suggest that cats be given 250mg twice daily for 3 weeks. The capsules with powder in them are easiest to give, as you can simply open it, and mix the powder in with some canned food. You can read more about it here: http://www.thensome.com/herpes.htm I hope this info. has been helpful to you and Tweezer. From: Sue Frank Koren [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FeLV Talk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 12:55:30 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Tweezer sneezing blood My two year old FeLV+ kitty Tweezer has been sneezing blood for a few days. (At first we didn't know where it was coming from, we were just seeing tiny blood droplets on the floor.) Last night we saw what was happening. He sounds a little stuffy, but he has sounded that way since we got him. My problem is that my usual vet who is good with my positive kittys is on vacation until the 24th of November. I personally consider the associates in his practice to be less then adequate for a positive kittys specail problems. I am trying to decide if I should wait for my usual vet (Possibly start Tweezer on some Doxycycline in the mean time), take them to one of the other vets in the practice and hope that this problem is something they can handle, or maybe take him to an internist I have been to before with one of my other cats. I guess it all depends on why this is happening to him. Has anyone ever had a cat sneeze blood droplets? ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Tweezer sneezing blood
No, but I would start with running a humidifier. It could be (depending on where you live) simply due to the dry air caused by running the heater in this colder weather. Just an idea. tonya Sue Frank Koren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My two year old FeLV+ kitty Tweezer has been sneezing blood for a few days. (At first we didn't know where it was coming from, we were just seeing tiny blood droplets on the floor.) Last night we saw what was happening. He sounds a little stuffy, but he has sounded that way since we got him. My problem is that my usual vet who is good with my positive kittys is on vacation until the 24th of November. I personally consider the associates in his practice to be less then adequate for a positive kittys specail problems. I am trying to decide if I should wait for my usual vet (Possibly start Tweezer on some Doxycycline in the mean time), take them to one of the other vets in the practice and hope that this problem is something they can handle, or maybe take him to an internist I have been to before with one of my other cats. I guess it all depends on why this is happening to him. Has anyone ever had a cat sneeze blood droplets? ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Tweezer sneezing blood
Hi Sue, I would get him checked as soon as possible even if you have to go somewhere else. I don't want to scare you but it could be a tumor or some kind of blockage in his sinuses. Does his breathing sound at all different or labored? I hope it is something easily treatable ... -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Tweezer sneezing blood
My two year old FeLV+ kitty Tweezer has been sneezing blood for a few days. (At first we didn't know where it was coming from, we were just seeing tiny blood droplets on the floor.) Last night we saw what was happening. He sounds a little stuffy, but he has sounded that way since we got him. My problem is that my usual vet who is good with my positive kittys is on vacation until the 24th of November. I personally consider the associates in his practice to be less then adequate for a positive kittys specail problems. I am trying to decide if I should wait for my usual vet (Possibly start Tweezer on some Doxycycline in the mean time), take them to one of the other vets in the practice and hope that this problem is something they can handle, or maybe take him to an internist I have been to before with one of my other cats. I guess it all depends on why this is happening to him. Has anyone ever had a cat sneeze blood droplets? ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Tweezer sneezing blood
Tweezer may have a nasal polyp or something simple...hopefully. If he is having trouble breathing through his nose (cats are obligate nasal breathers) get him seen by someone asap. I have an orange tabby, Kirby, who has had these problems since birth...and I occasionally have to use saline drops or (when it gets green) put him on antibiotics. He is now 7 and does well...I just have to keep a close eye on him.Debbie (COL)I am only one, but I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can do something.And because I cannot do everything, I will not refuse to do the something that I can do. What I can do, I should do. And what I should do, by the grace of God, I will do(Edward Everett Hale) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 12:55:30 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Tweezer sneezing blood My two year old FeLV+ kitty Tweezer has been sneezing blood for a few days. (At first we didn't know where it was coming from, we were just seeing tiny blood droplets on the floor.) Last night we saw what was happening. He sounds a little stuffy, but he has sounded that way since we got him. My problem is that my usual vet who is good with my positive kittys is on vacation until the 24th of November. I personally consider the associates in his practice to be less then adequate for a positive kittys specail problems. I am trying to decide if I should wait for my usual vet (Possibly start Tweezer on some Doxycycline in the mean time), take them to one of the other vets in the practice and hope that this problem is something they can handle, or maybe take him to an internist I have been to before with one of my other cats. I guess it all depends on why this is happening to him. Has anyone ever had a cat sneeze blood droplets? ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Discover the new Windows Vista http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=windows+vistamkt=en-USform=QBRE ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
