[Felvtalk] Why Are You Keeping This Cat Alive?
One of the strangest problems I face with my FeLv+ and FIV+ cats is going to the vet for a simple health issue. I bring in a fat, sleek cat with a URI and the vet asks me, in the course of treatment Is this one of your FeLv+ or FIV+ cats? Well, I have to say yes because we are at the doctor's office and it's not good to hide medical facts from your cat's doctor, right? And most of the time, even though the vet knows my opinion on cats who have these two disorders, the cat is viewed as different from another cat with a URI or diarrhea, or whatever simple issue the cat is going through and several times I have gotten a lecture of the This Is The Beginning Of The End type along with the antibiotic shot or whatever the protocol was for the actual issue. I find this annoying and frightening because I feel that my special needs cats are being treated as hopeless and perhaps are being given less appropriate treatment than my regular cats. Has anyone noticed this problem with their feline health care provider? There is one vet who I used for 15 years until I moved 50 miles away that never did this and never made me feel that I was selfishly keeping a sick cat alive. I would bring in my FIV+ and FeLv+ kits and he would treat them the same way he would treat the others. Even when I would tell him that Wally or Sugar or whoever, was FIV+ or Taco was FeLv+ he would say, Yes, I know. I did the test, remember? But this is just an upper respiratory infection. and that would be it. Shot given, pills prescribed, bill paid. I wish all vets were like that. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too!___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Why Are You Keeping This Cat Alive?
My vet actually treats those cats in a “special” way, knowing that their immune systems are compromised.. From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of molvey...@hotmail.com Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 8:57 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Why Are You Keeping This Cat Alive? Yep, I've run into vets like that too and it pisses me off. In a nice way I let them know that I want the cat treated as though he didn't have a disease. In several cases I just haven't ever gone back to those vets. Or I'll go back to throw it in their face that a simple round of Clavamox took care of the situation and the cat is fine. Some of them just haven't had enough experience to know that FIV and FeLV doesn't always make a simple illness worse and I want them to know and see it for themselves so they don't tell their next client to put the cat down just because he's got FIV or FeLV. Sent from my HTC Inspire™ 4G on ATT - Reply message - From: Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Why Are You Keeping This Cat Alive? Date: Fri, Oct 5, 2012 7:00 am One of the strangest problems I face with my FeLv+ and FIV+ cats is going to the vet for a simple health issue. I bring in a fat, sleek cat with a URI and the vet asks me, in the course of treatment Is this one of your FeLv+ or FIV+ cats? Well, I have to say yes because we are at the doctor's office and it's not good to hide medical facts from your cat's doctor, right? And most of the time, even though the vet knows my opinion on cats who have these two disorders, the cat is viewed as different from another cat with a URI or diarrhea, or whatever simple issue the cat is going through and several times I have gotten a lecture of the This Is The Beginning Of The End type along with the antibiotic shot or whatever the protocol was for the actual issue. I find this annoying and frightening because I feel that my special needs cats are being treated as hopeless and perhaps are being given less appropriate treatment than my regular cats. Has anyone noticed this problem with their feline health care provider? There is one vet who I used for 15 years until I moved 50 miles away that never did this and never made me feel that I was selfishly keeping a sick cat alive. I would bring in my FIV+ and FeLv+ kits and he would treat them the same way he would treat the others. Even when I would tell him that Wally or Sugar or whoever, was FIV+ or Taco was FeLv+ he would say, Yes, I know. I did the test, remember? But this is just an upper respiratory infection. and that would be it. Shot given, pills prescribed, bill paid. I wish all vets were like that. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Why Are You Keeping This Cat Alive?
My current vet my previous vet all treat the symptoms like they would any other cat, but I know plenty who don't. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 7:00 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Why Are You Keeping This Cat Alive? One of the strangest problems I face with my FeLv+ and FIV+ cats is going to the vet for a simple health issue. I bring in a fat, sleek cat with a URI and the vet asks me, in the course of treatment Is this one of your FeLv+ or FIV+ cats? Well, I have to say yes because we are at the doctor's office and it's not good to hide medical facts from your cat's doctor, right? And most of the time, even though the vet knows my opinion on cats who have these two disorders, the cat is viewed as different from another cat with a URI or diarrhea, or whatever simple issue the cat is going through and several times I have gotten a lecture of the This Is The Beginning Of The End type along with the antibiotic shot or whatever the protocol was for the actual issue. I find this annoying and frightening because I feel that my special needs cats are being treated as hopeless and perhaps are being given less appropriate treatment than my regular cats. Has anyone noticed this problem with their feline health care provider? There is one vet who I used for 15 years until I moved 50 miles away that never did this and never made me feel that I was selfishly keeping a sick cat alive. I would bring in my FIV+ and FeLv+ kits and he would treat them the same way he would treat the others. Even when I would tell him that Wally or Sugar or whoever, was FIV+ or Taco was FeLv+ he would say, Yes, I know. I did the test, remember? But this is just an upper respiratory infection. and that would be it. Shot given, pills prescribed, bill paid. I wish all vets were like that. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Why Are You Keeping This Cat Alive?
Find another vet like your old one. Keep looking until you find one. Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote: My current vet my previous vet all treat the symptoms like they would any other cat, but I know plenty who don't. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 7:00 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Why Are You Keeping This Cat Alive? One of the strangest problems I face with my FeLv+ and FIV+ cats is going to the vet for a simple health issue. I bring in a fat, sleek cat with a URI and the vet asks me, in the course of treatment Is this one of your FeLv+ or FIV+ cats? Well, I have to say yes because we are at the doctor's office and it's not good to hide medical facts from your cat's doctor, right? And most of the time, even though the vet knows my opinion on cats who have these two disorders, the cat is viewed as different from another cat with a URI or diarrhea, or whatever simple issue the cat is going through and several times I have gotten a lecture of the This Is The Beginning Of The End type along with the antibiotic shot or whatever the protocol was for the actual issue. I find this annoying and frightening because I feel that my special needs cats are being treated as hopeless and perhaps are being given less appropriate treatment than my regular cats. Has anyone noticed this problem with their feline health care provider? There is one vet who I used for 15 years until I moved 50 miles away that never did this and never made me feel that I was selfishly keeping a sick cat alive. I would bring in my FIV+ and FeLv+ kits and he would treat them the same way he would treat the others. Even when I would tell him that Wally or Sugar or whoever, was FIV+ or Taco was FeLv+ he would say, Yes, I know. I did the test, remember? But this is just an upper respiratory infection. and that would be it. Shot given, pills prescribed, bill paid. I wish all vets were like that. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Why Are You Keeping This Cat Alive?
Non cat people just don't get it. I think they also are thinking more of themselves than the cat. They just do not want to go to the trouble and puting the cat to sleep is a way out for them. They can appear as caring, loving people. My 2 girls have been with me for 5 years now and are healthy and happy. If I had listened to the naysayers, I would have put them down the day I found out they were positive. Until the day they truly become ill and their life is filled with pain and no joy, they will continue to live with me and enjoy life. Joslin Potter joslinir...@yahoo.com wrote: When we found out Zoey was + with FeLV I automatically thought like what your describing, he was going to have to be laid to rest, however, my vet was very optimistic and caring. She assured me that things were going to be fine, different, but fine. Thye stood by my decision to keep him alive, they would call once a month to check in on him, and always were very accomidating in providing care at a decent price. However a few weeks ago when we took him in, before putting him down, she even shed a tear herself that he was in a lot of pain, and they could treat him but it didn't look like he was going to stay better. So, we made the decision. But you are correct. A lot of people even that when we told them that Zoey was special they would ask why? Why would you want a cat tat was sick like that and I've even been called Selfish for letting him suffer, however the first year was a little ruff, but the three years later, up until 6 months before we put him down, you couldn't even tell. - Joslin From: Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 7:00 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Why Are You Keeping This Cat Alive? One of the strangest problems I face with my FeLv+ and FIV+ cats is going to the vet for a simple health issue. I bring in a fat, sleek cat with a URI and the vet asks me, in the course of treatment Is this one of your FeLv+ or FIV+ cats? Well, I have to say yes because we are at the doctor's office and it's not good to hide medical facts from your cat's doctor, right? And most of the time, even though the vet knows my opinion on cats who have these two disorders, the cat is viewed as different from another cat with a URI or diarrhea, or whatever simple issue the cat is going through and several times I have gotten a lecture of the This Is The Beginning Of The End type along with the antibiotic shot or whatever the protocol was for the actual issue. I find this annoying and frightening because I feel that my special needs cats are being treated as hopeless and perhaps are being given less appropriate treatment than my regular cats. Has anyone noticed this problem with their feline health care provider? There is one vet who I used for 15 years until I moved 50 miles away that never did this and never made me feel that I was selfishly keeping a sick cat alive. I would bring in my FIV+ and FeLv+ kits and he would treat them the same way he would treat the others. Even when I would tell him that Wally or Sugar or whoever, was FIV+ or Taco was FeLv+ he would say, Yes, I know. I did the test, remember? But this is just an upper respiratory infection. and that would be it. Shot given, pills prescribed, bill paid. I wish all vets were like that. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Why Are You Keeping This Cat Alive?
Amen to that! My vet and I watch Annie and Nitnoy and they get a blood panel each year to be sure their immune system is where it should be. When something looks abnormal, then my vet said we can get at it before it becomes a problem. Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net wrote: I’m grateful to have found a compassionate, and very knowledgeable vet. When we move, I’m still going to use her. Good vets are hard to find. From: GRAS Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 8:19 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Why Are You Keeping This Cat Alive? My vet actually treats those cats in a “special” way, knowing that their immune systems are compromised.. From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of molvey...@hotmail.com Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 8:57 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Why Are You Keeping This Cat Alive? Yep, I've run into vets like that too and it pisses me off. In a nice way I let them know that I want the cat treated as though he didn't have a disease. In several cases I just haven't ever gone back to those vets. Or I'll go back to throw it in their face that a simple round of Clavamox took care of the situation and the cat is fine. Some of them just haven't had enough experience to know that FIV and FeLV doesn't always make a simple illness worse and I want them to know and see it for themselves so they don't tell their next client to put the cat down just because he's got FIV or FeLV. Sent from my HTC Inspire™ 4G on ATT - Reply message - From: Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Why Are You Keeping This Cat Alive? Date: Fri, Oct 5, 2012 7:00 am One of the strangest problems I face with my FeLv+ and FIV+ cats is going to the vet for a simple health issue. I bring in a fat, sleek cat with a URI and the vet asks me, in the course of treatment Is this one of your FeLv+ or FIV+ cats? Well, I have to say yes because we are at the doctor's office and it's not good to hide medical facts from your cat's doctor, right? And most of the time, even though the vet knows my opinion on cats who have these two disorders, the cat is viewed as different from another cat with a URI or diarrhea, or whatever simple issue the cat is going through and several times I have gotten a lecture of the This Is The Beginning Of The End type along with the antibiotic shot or whatever the protocol was for the actual issue. I find this annoying and frightening because I feel that my special needs cats are being treated as hopeless and perhaps are being given less appropriate treatment than my regular cats. Has anyone noticed this problem with their feline health care provider? There is one vet who I used for 15 years until I moved 50 miles away that never did this and never made me feel that I was selfishly keeping a sick cat alive. I would bring in my FIV+ and FeLv+ kits and he would treat them the same way he would treat the others. Even when I would tell him that Wally or Sugar or whoever, was FIV+ or Taco was FeLv+ he would say, Yes, I know. I did the test, remember? But this is just an upper respiratory infection. and that would be it. Shot given, pills prescribed, bill paid. I wish all vets were like that. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Why Are You Keeping This Cat Alive?
Right now I'm sticking with my current vet because he's a good diagnostician and also gives me rescue rates. I think the problem with him is that he's afraid to miss a symptom that might actually be from FIV or FeLv so he keeps asking about the cats. He knows that I rescue hard cases. His wife who also practices with him is totally OK with the FIV/FeLv types and rarely even asks because she knows I will tell her if I have a worry that the illness may be due to the disorder. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! From: dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 9:42 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Why Are You Keeping This Cat Alive? Find another vet like your old one. Keep looking until you find one. Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote: My current vet my previous vet all treat the symptoms like they would any other cat, but I know plenty who don't. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 7:00 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Why Are You Keeping This Cat Alive? One of the strangest problems I face with my FeLv+ and FIV+ cats is going to the vet for a simple health issue. I bring in a fat, sleek cat with a URI and the vet asks me, in the course of treatment Is this one of your FeLv+ or FIV+ cats? Well, I have to say yes because we are at the doctor's office and it's not good to hide medical facts from your cat's doctor, right? And most of the time, even though the vet knows my opinion on cats who have these two disorders, the cat is viewed as different from another cat with a URI or diarrhea, or whatever simple issue the cat is going through and several times I have gotten a lecture of the This Is The Beginning Of The End type along with the antibiotic shot or whatever the protocol was for the actual issue. I find this annoying and frightening because I feel that my special needs cats are being treated as hopeless and perhaps are being given less appropriate treatment than my regular cats. Has anyone noticed this problem with their feline health care provider? There is one vet who I used for 15 years until I moved 50 miles away that never did this and never made me feel that I was selfishly keeping a sick cat alive. I would bring in my FIV+ and FeLv+ kits and he would treat them the same way he would treat the others. Even when I would tell him that Wally or Sugar or whoever, was FIV+ or Taco was FeLv+ he would say, Yes, I know. I did the test, remember? But this is just an upper respiratory infection. and that would be it. Shot given, pills prescribed, bill paid. I wish all vets were like that. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Why Are You Keeping This Cat Alive?
If he is just being over cautous, then he is okay. I would rather answer a dozen questions and not miss a problem in the making than the other way. Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote: Right now I'm sticking with my current vet because he's a good diagnostician and also gives me rescue rates. I think the problem with him is that he's afraid to miss a symptom that might actually be from FIV or FeLv so he keeps asking about the cats. He knows that I rescue hard cases. His wife who also practices with him is totally OK with the FIV/FeLv types and rarely even asks because she knows I will tell her if I have a worry that the illness may be due to the disorder. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! From: dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 9:42 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Why Are You Keeping This Cat Alive? Find another vet like your old one. Keep looking until you find one. Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote: My current vet my previous vet all treat the symptoms like they would any other cat, but I know plenty who don't. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 7:00 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Why Are You Keeping This Cat Alive? One of the strangest problems I face with my FeLv+ and FIV+ cats is going to the vet for a simple health issue. I bring in a fat, sleek cat with a URI and the vet asks me, in the course of treatment Is this one of your FeLv+ or FIV+ cats? Well, I have to say yes because we are at the doctor's office and it's not good to hide medical facts from your cat's doctor, right? And most of the time, even though the vet knows my opinion on cats who have these two disorders, the cat is viewed as different from another cat with a URI or diarrhea, or whatever simple issue the cat is going through and several times I have gotten a lecture of the This Is The Beginning Of The End type along with the antibiotic shot or whatever the protocol was for the actual issue. I find this annoying and frightening because I feel that my special needs cats are being treated as hopeless and perhaps are being given less appropriate treatment than my regular cats. Has anyone noticed this problem with their feline health care provider? There is one vet who I used for 15 years until I moved 50 miles away that never did this and never made me feel that I was selfishly keeping a sick cat alive. I would bring in my FIV+ and FeLv+ kits and he would treat them the same way he would treat the others. Even when I would tell him that Wally or Sugar or whoever, was FIV+ or Taco was FeLv+ he would say, Yes, I know. I did the test, remember? But this is just an upper respiratory infection. and that would be it. Shot given, pills prescribed, bill paid. I wish all vets were like that. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
