Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and exercise
Wendy, if it isn't already too late with the anemia he has I will do everything I can to get a vet to either find this stuff for me or interferon, which may be a little easier to get hold of here. Lynne - Original Message - From: wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 10:27 PM Subject: Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and exercise Lynne, The Best Friends Animal Sanctuary (one of the biggest and most well-known in the country) gives all their FeLV kitties Intra-Muscular (not IV or SubQ) injections of ImmunoRegulin every two weeks! My Cricket got a few IV injections but it was already too late for him; his anemia was so progressed. If I had to do it over again, I would go with subQ, since Cricket was so fractious and did not do well with needles. But if Boo Boo does IV's easily, I would go with that. :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: cindy reasoner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 9:58:56 AM Subject: Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and exercise Yes the the immuno-regulin worked on Smokey's fevers. Some vets say the equistim (immuno-regulin)needs to be given IV but the vet I used said you can do it subq. It worked for him. I can't remember exactly how many shots they would fix up for me. I think it was anywhere from 10 to 12. It cost me around 20 to 30 dollars. I kept them refrigerated. Smokey would have never tolerated them doing the IV. He hates the vets. I hope this will help. Cindy Reasoner --- Sue Frank Koren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cindy, Thank you for telling me that. I was picturing taking him in to the vet several times a week and them putting an IV into his arm. I was even thinking they might have to put him to sleep to do it. Obviously I know nothing about it and will have to ask my vet what they do - if my vet even does it. I have had to give cats things before subq, so that would work out. Did the immuno-regulin work on Smokey's fevers? Sue - Original Message - From: cindy reasoner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 4:01 PM Subject: Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and exercise I used immuno-regulin on my cat Smokey. He had a problem with fevers. It wasn't very expensive. I would give it to him subq and the vet would fix the shots up for me. I would keep them refrigerated. At first I did 2 a week. I gradually gave him the shots less and less. Now he doesn't get them at all. Just thought I would let you know what my experience with it has been. Cindy Reasoner --- laurieskatz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Me again. Mine don't eat if they have a cold, upset stomach or diarrhea (I sound like that commercial). Cats need to be able to smell their food. Coco won't eat her normal food when she has a hairball she is trying to get rid of. I usually find a hairball the next day and she is back on track eating again. As Lance suggested, watch carefully and make notes. I quickly forget which days things happen unless I make a note. I actually keep a notebook in the kitchen now for notes. L - Original Message - From: Lynne To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 12:36 PM Subject: Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and exercise Sue, I so know how you feel. I just posted about our little guy coughing. I didn't believe the positive test at first and asked for more blood work and it's worse than I thought. Now every little thing I think is unusual I panic about, like this coughing. I just don't know how none of this concerned the previous owners. He's also becoming a ridiculously fussy eater. I've tried many different can foods and some hard foods and he just sticks his nose up. Fortunately our 19 year old pig-cat likes it all so it isn't totally wasted. It is all just such a drain on one. Lynne - Original Message - From: Sue Frank Koren To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 1:23 PM Subject: Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and exercise Thank you for your advise. Yes, he love to run around and play like a maniac - after all he is only 8 - 10 months old and really still a kitten. He seems to get out of breath and his breathing is a little raspy when he has been playing hard, but maybe that is something that is normal for any cat. Because of the FeLV I am just noticing things differently with him. Right now I have to decide what will help him most and what I can afford. I
Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and exercise
Lynne, The Best Friends Animal Sanctuary (one of the biggest and most well-known in the country) gives all their FeLV kitties Intra-Muscular (not IV or SubQ) injections of ImmunoRegulin every two weeks! My Cricket got a few IV injections but it was already too late for him; his anemia was so progressed. If I had to do it over again, I would go with subQ, since Cricket was so fractious and did not do well with needles. But if Boo Boo does IV's easily, I would go with that. :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: cindy reasoner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 9:58:56 AM Subject: Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and exercise Yes the the immuno-regulin worked on Smokey's fevers. Some vets say the equistim (immuno-regulin)needs to be given IV but the vet I used said you can do it subq. It worked for him. I can't remember exactly how many shots they would fix up for me. I think it was anywhere from 10 to 12. It cost me around 20 to 30 dollars. I kept them refrigerated. Smokey would have never tolerated them doing the IV. He hates the vets. I hope this will help. Cindy Reasoner --- Sue Frank Koren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cindy, Thank you for telling me that. I was picturing taking him in to the vet several times a week and them putting an IV into his arm. I was even thinking they might have to put him to sleep to do it. Obviously I know nothing about it and will have to ask my vet what they do - if my vet even does it. I have had to give cats things before subq, so that would work out. Did the immuno-regulin work on Smokey's fevers? Sue - Original Message - From: cindy reasoner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 4:01 PM Subject: Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and exercise I used immuno-regulin on my cat Smokey. He had a problem with fevers. It wasn't very expensive. I would give it to him subq and the vet would fix the shots up for me. I would keep them refrigerated. At first I did 2 a week. I gradually gave him the shots less and less. Now he doesn't get them at all. Just thought I would let you know what my experience with it has been. Cindy Reasoner --- laurieskatz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Me again. Mine don't eat if they have a cold, upset stomach or diarrhea (I sound like that commercial). Cats need to be able to smell their food. Coco won't eat her normal food when she has a hairball she is trying to get rid of. I usually find a hairball the next day and she is back on track eating again. As Lance suggested, watch carefully and make notes. I quickly forget which days things happen unless I make a note. I actually keep a notebook in the kitchen now for notes. L - Original Message - From: Lynne To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 12:36 PM Subject: Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and exercise Sue, I so know how you feel. I just posted about our little guy coughing. I didn't believe the positive test at first and asked for more blood work and it's worse than I thought. Now every little thing I think is unusual I panic about, like this coughing. I just don't know how none of this concerned the previous owners. He's also becoming a ridiculously fussy eater. I've tried many different can foods and some hard foods and he just sticks his nose up. Fortunately our 19 year old pig-cat likes it all so it isn't totally wasted. It is all just such a drain on one. Lynne - Original Message - From: Sue Frank Koren To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 1:23 PM Subject: Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and exercise Thank you for your advise. Yes, he love to run around and play like a maniac - after all he is only 8 - 10 months old and really still a kitten. He seems to get out of breath and his breathing is a little raspy when he has been playing hard, but maybe that is something that is normal for any cat. Because of the FeLV I am just noticing things differently with him. Right now I have to decide what will help him most and what I can afford. I have already switched him to an all canned Wellness diet. The Immuno-Regulin sounds pretty expensive. I also have two boys in college that I have to think of also. Do you know how many cats actually ever end up eventually testing negative with this? I guess there is a part of me that is still in denial. He tested negative when my brother first rescued him, then he tested positive when he had the in-office test at the vet when I got him. They then gave him
Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and exercise
Yes the the immuno-regulin worked on Smokey's fevers. Some vets say the equistim (immuno-regulin)needs to be given IV but the vet I used said you can do it subq. It worked for him. I can't remember exactly how many shots they would fix up for me. I think it was anywhere from 10 to 12. It cost me around 20 to 30 dollars. I kept them refrigerated. Smokey would have never tolerated them doing the IV. He hates the vets. I hope this will help. Cindy Reasoner --- Sue Frank Koren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cindy, Thank you for telling me that. I was picturing taking him in to the vet several times a week and them putting an IV into his arm. I was even thinking they might have to put him to sleep to do it. Obviously I know nothing about it and will have to ask my vet what they do - if my vet even does it. I have had to give cats things before subq, so that would work out. Did the immuno-regulin work on Smokey's fevers? Sue - Original Message - From: cindy reasoner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 4:01 PM Subject: Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and exercise I used immuno-regulin on my cat Smokey. He had a problem with fevers. It wasn't very expensive. I would give it to him subq and the vet would fix the shots up for me. I would keep them refrigerated. At first I did 2 a week. I gradually gave him the shots less and less. Now he doesn't get them at all. Just thought I would let you know what my experience with it has been. Cindy Reasoner --- laurieskatz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Me again. Mine don't eat if they have a cold, upset stomach or diarrhea (I sound like that commercial). Cats need to be able to smell their food. Coco won't eat her normal food when she has a hairball she is trying to get rid of. I usually find a hairball the next day and she is back on track eating again. As Lance suggested, watch carefully and make notes. I quickly forget which days things happen unless I make a note. I actually keep a notebook in the kitchen now for notes. L - Original Message - From: Lynne To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 12:36 PM Subject: Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and exercise Sue, I so know how you feel. I just posted about our little guy coughing. I didn't believe the positive test at first and asked for more blood work and it's worse than I thought. Now every little thing I think is unusual I panic about, like this coughing. I just don't know how none of this concerned the previous owners. He's also becoming a ridiculously fussy eater. I've tried many different can foods and some hard foods and he just sticks his nose up. Fortunately our 19 year old pig-cat likes it all so it isn't totally wasted. It is all just such a drain on one. Lynne - Original Message - From: Sue Frank Koren To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 1:23 PM Subject: Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and exercise Thank you for your advise. Yes, he love to run around and play like a maniac - after all he is only 8 - 10 months old and really still a kitten. He seems to get out of breath and his breathing is a little raspy when he has been playing hard, but maybe that is something that is normal for any cat. Because of the FeLV I am just noticing things differently with him. Right now I have to decide what will help him most and what I can afford. I have already switched him to an all canned Wellness diet. The Immuno-Regulin sounds pretty expensive. I also have two boys in college that I have to think of also. Do you know how many cats actually ever end up eventually testing negative with this? I guess there is a part of me that is still in denial. He tested negative when my brother first rescued him, then he tested positive when he had the in-office test at the vet when I got him. They then gave him the blood test which was also positive. I think April is when I will test him again. Meanwhile I will spoil him as much as I possibly can when he has to be stuck in one room. It's so nasty and snowy today that there isn't even a good view out the window from his chair. Sue - Original Message - From: Caroline Kaufmann To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 9:56 PM Subject: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and exercise I don't know about the IR, but as far as the vaccs- it sounds like he handled them fine, so there's no need to stress yourself out about it now. Now you know better tho and can better protect him in the future by being better educated. And you are very to lucky to have found this site so early on. I
Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and exercise
I used immuno-regulin on my cat Smokey. He had a problem with fevers. It wasn't very expensive. I would give it to him subq and the vet would fix the shots up for me. I would keep them refrigerated. At first I did 2 a week. I gradually gave him the shots less and less. Now he doesn't get them at all. Just thought I would let you know what my experience with it has been. Cindy Reasoner --- laurieskatz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Me again. Mine don't eat if they have a cold, upset stomach or diarrhea (I sound like that commercial). Cats need to be able to smell their food. Coco won't eat her normal food when she has a hairball she is trying to get rid of. I usually find a hairball the next day and she is back on track eating again. As Lance suggested, watch carefully and make notes. I quickly forget which days things happen unless I make a note. I actually keep a notebook in the kitchen now for notes. L - Original Message - From: Lynne To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 12:36 PM Subject: Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and exercise Sue, I so know how you feel. I just posted about our little guy coughing. I didn't believe the positive test at first and asked for more blood work and it's worse than I thought. Now every little thing I think is unusual I panic about, like this coughing. I just don't know how none of this concerned the previous owners. He's also becoming a ridiculously fussy eater. I've tried many different can foods and some hard foods and he just sticks his nose up. Fortunately our 19 year old pig-cat likes it all so it isn't totally wasted. It is all just such a drain on one. Lynne - Original Message - From: Sue Frank Koren To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 1:23 PM Subject: Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and exercise Thank you for your advise. Yes, he love to run around and play like a maniac - after all he is only 8 - 10 months old and really still a kitten. He seems to get out of breath and his breathing is a little raspy when he has been playing hard, but maybe that is something that is normal for any cat. Because of the FeLV I am just noticing things differently with him. Right now I have to decide what will help him most and what I can afford. I have already switched him to an all canned Wellness diet. The Immuno-Regulin sounds pretty expensive. I also have two boys in college that I have to think of also. Do you know how many cats actually ever end up eventually testing negative with this? I guess there is a part of me that is still in denial. He tested negative when my brother first rescued him, then he tested positive when he had the in-office test at the vet when I got him. They then gave him the blood test which was also positive. I think April is when I will test him again. Meanwhile I will spoil him as much as I possibly can when he has to be stuck in one room. It's so nasty and snowy today that there isn't even a good view out the window from his chair. Sue - Original Message - From: Caroline Kaufmann To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 9:56 PM Subject: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and exercise I don't know about the IR, but as far as the vaccs- it sounds like he handled them fine, so there's no need to stress yourself out about it now. Now you know better tho and can better protect him in the future by being better educated. And you are very to lucky to have found this site so early on. I only got to it when Monkee was in the throws of the illness and most hope was lost. And I felt horrible when I realized all the knowledge and information that was out there on the internet that I didn't think to take advantage of. I just took Monkee's incredible health for granted and thought if I kept him happy and not stressed, his beefy body would beat the odds. When I realized I could have been more proactive with things- like no vaccs, better diet, supplements, even meds to ward off the disease, I felt horrible, but I didn't have time or energy to cry over spilled milk at the time b/c I was so desperate for immediate help with Monkee's sick condition. It's since his passing that I realized the depth of what I allowed myself to miss out on. Could any of those things have made a difference in Monkee's individual case? I don't know? I never will. But if I can help someone else get to resources and better information SOONER than I did, then my guilt is lessened. You should feel really happy that you are taking full advantage of what is out there now- early- while Buzz is healthy. You have the chance to do all you can for him early on. Don't worry about him playing- if he's happy
Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and exercise
Hi Lynne It looks like Revival will ship ot of the US. You would have to call them for the rate. They also ship this item chilled. I found a site in canada that also carried the horse version, same stuff juts larger vial. I feell you should be able to get the smaller vial in Canada. It is listed as Equistim http://www.cdmv.com/CDMVhtml/ibeCCtpItmDspRte.jsp?item=2488 http://www.revivalanimal.com/ If you go subq I found insulin syringes work just fine. Junior hardly knows I gave him a shot. Sally Davis On Feb 11, 2008 8:16 PM, Lynne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sally, BooBoo may be put on this and I'm hoping the vet is agreeable to me buying it online. I don't even know if it is readily available over here (Canada). But I do know if it is ordered through a pharmacy and then through the Vet Hospital it will cost me a heck of a lot more that what you pay. For my old cat I get this transdermal thyroid medication and it was going to cost a small fortune because they were going to make it up for me. I work across the hall from a pharmacist who does a lot of compounding and they made the prescription up for me at a fraction of the cost. The Vet (not the same one as BooBoo has) was not at all happy when I asked that the prescription be called into the pharmacy but I don't really care. It's worked for Lennie and saved me some bucks. Lynne - Original Message - *From:* Sally Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Sent:* Monday, February 11, 2008 7:50 PM *Subject:* Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and exercise Junior had fevers as well. I believe the IR helped the fevers and his gingivitis that he also had at that time. I like to say it got him over the hump. He received IV injections and yes it is a trade off due to stressing the cat. It can be given SubQ, suppossedly is not as effective reaching the macrophages. I say go for it. You cn purchase it w/o a prescription from Revival Animal health about $36.00 plus shipping. On Feb 11, 2008 7:42 PM, Sue Frank Koren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cindy, Thank you for telling me that. I was picturing taking him in to the vet several times a week and them putting an IV into his arm. I was even thinking they might have to put him to sleep to do it. Obviously I know nothing about it and will have to ask my vet what they do - if my vet even does it. I have had to give cats things before subq, so that would work out. Did the immuno-regulin work on Smokey's fevers? Sue - Original Message - From: cindy reasoner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 4:01 PM Subject: Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and exercise I used immuno-regulin on my cat Smokey. He had a problem with fevers. It wasn't very expensive. I would give it to him subq and the vet would fix the shots up for me. I would keep them refrigerated. At first I did 2 a week. I gradually gave him the shots less and less. Now he doesn't get them at all. Just thought I would let you know what my experience with it has been. Cindy Reasoner --- laurieskatz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Me again. Mine don't eat if they have a cold, upset stomach or diarrhea (I sound like that commercial). Cats need to be able to smell their food. Coco won't eat her normal food when she has a hairball she is trying to get rid of. I usually find a hairball the next day and she is back on track eating again. As Lance suggested, watch carefully and make notes. I quickly forget which days things happen unless I make a note. I actually keep a notebook in the kitchen now for notes. L - Original Message - From: Lynne To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 12:36 PM Subject: Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and exercise Sue, I so know how you feel. I just posted about our little guy coughing. I didn't believe the positive test at first and asked for more blood work and it's worse than I thought. Now every little thing I think is unusual I panic about, like this coughing. I just don't know how none of this concerned the previous owners. He's also becoming a ridiculously fussy eater. I've tried many different can foods and some hard foods and he just sticks his nose up. Fortunately our 19 year old pig-cat likes it all so it isn't totally wasted. It is all just such a drain on one. Lynne - Original Message - From: Sue Frank Koren To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 1:23 PM Subject: Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and exercise Thank you for your advise. Yes, he love to run around and play like a maniac - after all he is only 8 - 10 months old and really still a kitten. He seems to get out of breath and his breathing
Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and exercise
Sally, BooBoo may be put on this and I'm hoping the vet is agreeable to me buying it online. I don't even know if it is readily available over here (Canada). But I do know if it is ordered through a pharmacy and then through the Vet Hospital it will cost me a heck of a lot more that what you pay. For my old cat I get this transdermal thyroid medication and it was going to cost a small fortune because they were going to make it up for me. I work across the hall from a pharmacist who does a lot of compounding and they made the prescription up for me at a fraction of the cost. The Vet (not the same one as BooBoo has) was not at all happy when I asked that the prescription be called into the pharmacy but I don't really care. It's worked for Lennie and saved me some bucks. Lynne - Original Message - From: Sally Davis To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 7:50 PM Subject: Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and exercise Junior had fevers as well. I believe the IR helped the fevers and his gingivitis that he also had at that time. I like to say it got him over the hump. He received IV injections and yes it is a trade off due to stressing the cat. It can be given SubQ, suppossedly is not as effective reaching the macrophages. I say go for it. You cn purchase it w/o a prescription from Revival Animal health about $36.00 plus shipping. On Feb 11, 2008 7:42 PM, Sue Frank Koren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cindy, Thank you for telling me that. I was picturing taking him in to the vet several times a week and them putting an IV into his arm. I was even thinking they might have to put him to sleep to do it. Obviously I know nothing about it and will have to ask my vet what they do - if my vet even does it. I have had to give cats things before subq, so that would work out. Did the immuno-regulin work on Smokey's fevers? Sue - Original Message - From: cindy reasoner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 4:01 PM Subject: Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and exercise I used immuno-regulin on my cat Smokey. He had a problem with fevers. It wasn't very expensive. I would give it to him subq and the vet would fix the shots up for me. I would keep them refrigerated. At first I did 2 a week. I gradually gave him the shots less and less. Now he doesn't get them at all. Just thought I would let you know what my experience with it has been. Cindy Reasoner --- laurieskatz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Me again. Mine don't eat if they have a cold, upset stomach or diarrhea (I sound like that commercial). Cats need to be able to smell their food. Coco won't eat her normal food when she has a hairball she is trying to get rid of. I usually find a hairball the next day and she is back on track eating again. As Lance suggested, watch carefully and make notes. I quickly forget which days things happen unless I make a note. I actually keep a notebook in the kitchen now for notes. L - Original Message - From: Lynne To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 12:36 PM Subject: Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and exercise Sue, I so know how you feel. I just posted about our little guy coughing. I didn't believe the positive test at first and asked for more blood work and it's worse than I thought. Now every little thing I think is unusual I panic about, like this coughing. I just don't know how none of this concerned the previous owners. He's also becoming a ridiculously fussy eater. I've tried many different can foods and some hard foods and he just sticks his nose up. Fortunately our 19 year old pig-cat likes it all so it isn't totally wasted. It is all just such a drain on one. Lynne - Original Message - From: Sue Frank Koren To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 1:23 PM Subject: Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and exercise Thank you for your advise. Yes, he love to run around and play like a maniac - after all he is only 8 - 10 months old and really still a kitten. He seems to get out of breath and his breathing is a little raspy when he has been playing hard, but maybe that is something that is normal for any cat. Because of the FeLV I am just noticing things differently with him. Right now I have to decide what will help him most and what I can afford. I have already switched him to an all canned Wellness diet. The Immuno-Regulin sounds pretty expensive. I also have two boys in college that I have to think
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Cindy, Thank you for telling me that. I was picturing taking him in to the vet several times a week and them putting an IV into his arm. I was even thinking they might have to put him to sleep to do it. Obviously I know nothing about it and will have to ask my vet what they do - if my vet even does it. I have had to give cats things before subq, so that would work out. Did the immuno-regulin work on Smokey's fevers? Sue - Original Message - From: cindy reasoner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 4:01 PM Subject: Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and exercise I used immuno-regulin on my cat Smokey. He had a problem with fevers. It wasn't very expensive. I would give it to him subq and the vet would fix the shots up for me. I would keep them refrigerated. At first I did 2 a week. I gradually gave him the shots less and less. Now he doesn't get them at all. Just thought I would let you know what my experience with it has been. Cindy Reasoner --- laurieskatz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Me again. Mine don't eat if they have a cold, upset stomach or diarrhea (I sound like that commercial). Cats need to be able to smell their food. Coco won't eat her normal food when she has a hairball she is trying to get rid of. I usually find a hairball the next day and she is back on track eating again. As Lance suggested, watch carefully and make notes. I quickly forget which days things happen unless I make a note. I actually keep a notebook in the kitchen now for notes. L - Original Message - From: Lynne To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 12:36 PM Subject: Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and exercise Sue, I so know how you feel. I just posted about our little guy coughing. I didn't believe the positive test at first and asked for more blood work and it's worse than I thought. Now every little thing I think is unusual I panic about, like this coughing. I just don't know how none of this concerned the previous owners. He's also becoming a ridiculously fussy eater. I've tried many different can foods and some hard foods and he just sticks his nose up. Fortunately our 19 year old pig-cat likes it all so it isn't totally wasted. It is all just such a drain on one. Lynne - Original Message - From: Sue Frank Koren To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 1:23 PM Subject: Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and exercise Thank you for your advise. Yes, he love to run around and play like a maniac - after all he is only 8 - 10 months old and really still a kitten. He seems to get out of breath and his breathing is a little raspy when he has been playing hard, but maybe that is something that is normal for any cat. Because of the FeLV I am just noticing things differently with him. Right now I have to decide what will help him most and what I can afford. I have already switched him to an all canned Wellness diet. The Immuno-Regulin sounds pretty expensive. I also have two boys in college that I have to think of also. Do you know how many cats actually ever end up eventually testing negative with this? I guess there is a part of me that is still in denial. He tested negative when my brother first rescued him, then he tested positive when he had the in-office test at the vet when I got him. They then gave him the blood test which was also positive. I think April is when I will test him again. Meanwhile I will spoil him as much as I possibly can when he has to be stuck in one room. It's so nasty and snowy today that there isn't even a good view out the window from his chair. Sue - Original Message - From: Caroline Kaufmann To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 9:56 PM Subject: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and exercise I don't know about the IR, but as far as the vaccs- it sounds like he handled them fine, so there's no need to stress yourself out about it now. Now you know better tho and can better protect him in the future by being better educated. And you are very to lucky to have found this site so early on. I only got to it when Monkee was in the throws of the illness and most hope was lost. And I felt horrible when I realized all the knowledge and information that was out there on the internet that I didn't think to take advantage of. I just took Monkee's incredible health for granted and thought if I kept him happy and not stressed, his beefy body would beat the odds. When I realized I could have been more proactive with things- like no vaccs, better diet, supplements, even meds to ward off the disease, I felt horrible, but I didn't have time or energy to cry over spilled milk at the time b/c I was so desperate for immediate help with Monkee's sick condition. It's since his passing that I realized the depth of what I allowed myself
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Thank you for your advise. Yes, he love to run around and play like a maniac - after all he is only 8 - 10 months old and really still a kitten. He seems to get out of breath and his breathing is a little raspy when he has been playing hard, but maybe that is something that is normal for any cat. Because of the FeLV I am just noticing things differently with him. Right now I have to decide what will help him most and what I can afford. I have already switched him to an all canned Wellness diet. The Immuno-Regulin sounds pretty expensive. I also have two boys in college that I have to think of also. Do you know how many cats actually ever end up eventually testing negative with this? I guess there is a part of me that is still in denial. He tested negative when my brother first rescued him, then he tested positive when he had the in-office test at the vet when I got him. They then gave him the blood test which was also positive. I think April is when I will test him again. Meanwhile I will spoil him as much as I possibly can when he has to be stuck in one room. It's so nasty and snowy today that there isn't even a good view out the window from his chair. Sue - Original Message - From: Caroline Kaufmann To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 9:56 PM Subject: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and exercise I don't know about the IR, but as far as the vaccs- it sounds like he handled them fine, so there's no need to stress yourself out about it now. Now you know better tho and can better protect him in the future by being better educated. And you are very to lucky to have found this site so early on. I only got to it when Monkee was in the throws of the illness and most hope was lost. And I felt horrible when I realized all the knowledge and information that was out there on the internet that I didn't think to take advantage of. I just took Monkee's incredible health for granted and thought if I kept him happy and not stressed, his beefy body would beat the odds. When I realized I could have been more proactive with things- like no vaccs, better diet, supplements, even meds to ward off the disease, I felt horrible, but I didn't have time or energy to cry over spilled milk at the time b/c I was so desperate for immediate help with Monkee's sick condition. It's since his passing that I realized the depth of what I allowed myself to miss out on. Could any of those things have made a difference in Monkee's individual case? I don't know? I never will. But if I can help someone else get to resources and better information SOONER than I did, then my guilt is lessened. You should feel really happy that you are taking full advantage of what is out there now- early- while Buzz is healthy. You have the chance to do all you can for him early on. Don't worry about him playing- if he's happy and healthy for now and he wants to run around like a maniac and play toys, by all means, let him do it. It's important to not treat him like an invalid, especially if he does not feel like one/doesn't know he is one b/c he will pick up on that. For most of Monkee's illness my mom kept telling me to stop crying around him and treating him like an invalid because at that point (until the last 2 wks), he didn't know he was sick- even when he was getting chemo. She didn't want Monkee to pick up on my cues and then in turn, get depressed and get further stressed. Asymptomatic Felv cats don't know they are sick, so allowing him to play and act like a normal boy is all part of providing him a stress-free environment which is really key for Felv+ cats. caroline From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Immuno-Regullin and exercise Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 21:32:52 -0500 When is the best time to start Immuno-Regulin? When they still have no symptoms? I can still hardly believe Buzz has this horrible disease. He seems so healthy and loves to play and has a great appetite. How often do the success stories like Minstrels come along? These postings have so much new information and the internet sights have so much conflicting information that it is hard to know what to think. I just know the little guy cleaning himself in my lap right now deserves all I can do for him. Does anyone know if a lot of playing exercise is good for a FeLV + cat? He chases his toys so hard that he gets out of breath sometimes. Buzz had some vaccinations about a month ago, is he still in danger? I have always had cats but this is so new and I feel so ignorant. I am so glad for this site, I have already learned more real information that seems like it will actually help Buzz then from all the reading I've done for the last several weeks since I learned he was FeLV positive. Thank
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Me again. Mine don't eat if they have a cold, upset stomach or diarrhea (I sound like that commercial). Cats need to be able to smell their food. Coco won't eat her normal food when she has a hairball she is trying to get rid of. I usually find a hairball the next day and she is back on track eating again. As Lance suggested, watch carefully and make notes. I quickly forget which days things happen unless I make a note. I actually keep a notebook in the kitchen now for notes. L - Original Message - From: Lynne To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 12:36 PM Subject: Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and exercise Sue, I so know how you feel. I just posted about our little guy coughing. I didn't believe the positive test at first and asked for more blood work and it's worse than I thought. Now every little thing I think is unusual I panic about, like this coughing. I just don't know how none of this concerned the previous owners. He's also becoming a ridiculously fussy eater. I've tried many different can foods and some hard foods and he just sticks his nose up. Fortunately our 19 year old pig-cat likes it all so it isn't totally wasted. It is all just such a drain on one. Lynne - Original Message - From: Sue Frank Koren To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 1:23 PM Subject: Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and exercise Thank you for your advise. Yes, he love to run around and play like a maniac - after all he is only 8 - 10 months old and really still a kitten. He seems to get out of breath and his breathing is a little raspy when he has been playing hard, but maybe that is something that is normal for any cat. Because of the FeLV I am just noticing things differently with him. Right now I have to decide what will help him most and what I can afford. I have already switched him to an all canned Wellness diet. The Immuno-Regulin sounds pretty expensive. I also have two boys in college that I have to think of also. Do you know how many cats actually ever end up eventually testing negative with this? I guess there is a part of me that is still in denial. He tested negative when my brother first rescued him, then he tested positive when he had the in-office test at the vet when I got him. They then gave him the blood test which was also positive. I think April is when I will test him again. Meanwhile I will spoil him as much as I possibly can when he has to be stuck in one room. It's so nasty and snowy today that there isn't even a good view out the window from his chair. Sue - Original Message - From: Caroline Kaufmann To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 9:56 PM Subject: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and exercise I don't know about the IR, but as far as the vaccs- it sounds like he handled them fine, so there's no need to stress yourself out about it now. Now you know better tho and can better protect him in the future by being better educated. And you are very to lucky to have found this site so early on. I only got to it when Monkee was in the throws of the illness and most hope was lost. And I felt horrible when I realized all the knowledge and information that was out there on the internet that I didn't think to take advantage of. I just took Monkee's incredible health for granted and thought if I kept him happy and not stressed, his beefy body would beat the odds. When I realized I could have been more proactive with things- like no vaccs, better diet, supplements, even meds to ward off the disease, I felt horrible, but I didn't have time or energy to cry over spilled milk at the time b/c I was so desperate for immediate help with Monkee's sick condition. It's since his passing that I realized the depth of what I allowed myself to miss out on. Could any of those things have made a difference in Monkee's individual case? I don't know? I never will. But if I can help someone else get to resources and better information SOONER than I did, then my guilt is lessened. You should feel really happy that you are taking full advantage of what is out there now- early- while Buzz is healthy. You have the chance to do all you can for him early on. Don't worry about him playing- if he's happy and healthy for now and he wants to run around like a maniac and play toys, by all means, let him do it. It's important to not treat him like an invalid, especially if he does not feel like one/doesn't know he is one b/c he will pick up on that. For most of Monkee's illness my mom kept telling me to stop crying around him and treating him like an invalid because at that point (until the last 2 wks), he didn't know he was sick- even when he was getting chemo. She didn't want Monkee to pick up on my cues
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Sue, I so know how you feel. I just posted about our little guy coughing. I didn't believe the positive test at first and asked for more blood work and it's worse than I thought. Now every little thing I think is unusual I panic about, like this coughing. I just don't know how none of this concerned the previous owners. He's also becoming a ridiculously fussy eater. I've tried many different can foods and some hard foods and he just sticks his nose up. Fortunately our 19 year old pig-cat likes it all so it isn't totally wasted. It is all just such a drain on one. Lynne - Original Message - From: Sue Frank Koren To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 1:23 PM Subject: Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and exercise Thank you for your advise. Yes, he love to run around and play like a maniac - after all he is only 8 - 10 months old and really still a kitten. He seems to get out of breath and his breathing is a little raspy when he has been playing hard, but maybe that is something that is normal for any cat. Because of the FeLV I am just noticing things differently with him. Right now I have to decide what will help him most and what I can afford. I have already switched him to an all canned Wellness diet. The Immuno-Regulin sounds pretty expensive. I also have two boys in college that I have to think of also. Do you know how many cats actually ever end up eventually testing negative with this? I guess there is a part of me that is still in denial. He tested negative when my brother first rescued him, then he tested positive when he had the in-office test at the vet when I got him. They then gave him the blood test which was also positive. I think April is when I will test him again. Meanwhile I will spoil him as much as I possibly can when he has to be stuck in one room. It's so nasty and snowy today that there isn't even a good view out the window from his chair. Sue - Original Message - From: Caroline Kaufmann To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 9:56 PM Subject: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and exercise I don't know about the IR, but as far as the vaccs- it sounds like he handled them fine, so there's no need to stress yourself out about it now. Now you know better tho and can better protect him in the future by being better educated. And you are very to lucky to have found this site so early on. I only got to it when Monkee was in the throws of the illness and most hope was lost. And I felt horrible when I realized all the knowledge and information that was out there on the internet that I didn't think to take advantage of. I just took Monkee's incredible health for granted and thought if I kept him happy and not stressed, his beefy body would beat the odds. When I realized I could have been more proactive with things- like no vaccs, better diet, supplements, even meds to ward off the disease, I felt horrible, but I didn't have time or energy to cry over spilled milk at the time b/c I was so desperate for immediate help with Monkee's sick condition. It's since his passing that I realized the depth of what I allowed myself to miss out on. Could any of those things have made a difference in Monkee's individual case? I don't know? I never will. But if I can help someone else get to resources and better information SOONER than I did, then my guilt is lessened. You should feel really happy that you are taking full advantage of what is out there now- early- while Buzz is healthy. You have the chance to do all you can for him early on. Don't worry about him playing- if he's happy and healthy for now and he wants to run around like a maniac and play toys, by all means, let him do it. It's important to not treat him like an invalid, especially if he does not feel like one/doesn't know he is one b/c he will pick up on that. For most of Monkee's illness my mom kept telling me to stop crying around him and treating him like an invalid because at that point (until the last 2 wks), he didn't know he was sick- even when he was getting chemo. She didn't want Monkee to pick up on my cues and then in turn, get depressed and get further stressed. Asymptomatic Felv cats don't know they are sick, so allowing him to play and act like a normal boy is all part of providing him a stress-free environment which is really key for Felv+ cats. caroline -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Immuno-Regullin and exercise Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 21:32:52 -0500 When is the best time to start Immuno-Regulin? When they still have no symptoms? I can still hardly believe Buzz has this horrible disease. He seems so healthy and loves to play and has a great
