Re: CLS - Twiggy

2005-08-31 Thread Julie Johnson
Dear Joan,

Please tell Norrice that she and Twiggy are in my thoughts and prayers. Having just been through the seizures due to probable FIP horror, I can imagine what a difficult time this is. I hope that she can take comfort in the fact that although Twiggy was with her for such a short time, she gave her a lifetime of love and caring.

Love, Julie
"Doljan, Joan" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Belinda,

Please add, my friend, Norrice's kitten Twiggy to the Candlelight Service. She was about 9 months old, and probably died from FIP early Saturday morning. She had started having seizures and was rushed to a 24 hours clinic. Norrice wastold there was no hope for her recovery, so she was euthanized.. When she was rescued she was always thin and somewhat sickly, she has good times but often had a fever which would come and go. Norrice, had her to the vet, numerous times and previouslythey could not find anything specifically wrong.This past week though, the blood work showed that Twiggy was slightly anemic,had a high white blood count, elevated liver enzymelevels, and ahigh globulin count.She tested negative for both feline leukemia and aids. She was always listless and since she never ate much, or gained much weight, she was named "Twiggy". "Twiggy" came from a house
 with many unaltered animals (now they are all altered) and some kitten deaths (probably also from FIP). Norrice, took Twiggy, to get her to a better environment. Twiggy's life, though indeed short, was one filled with love and much caring..
Thank you,

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RE: CLS - Twiggy

2005-08-30 Thread Doljan, Joan
Title: Message



Terri,

Thank you so much. I have 
passed your email onto Norrice.

Joan

  
  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Terri 
  BrownSent: Monday, August 29, 2005 8:04 PMTo: 
  felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: CLS - 
  Twiggy
  
  Please extend my condolences to your friend.
  
  Goodnight, sweet Twiggy...
  
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- Original Message - 
From: Doljan, Joan 
To: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org' 

Cc: 'Raymaker, Norrice 
(LEGAL)' 
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 7:06 
AM
Subject: CLS - Twiggy

Belinda,

Please add, my 
friend, Norrice's kitten Twiggy to the Candlelight Service. She was 
about 9 months old, and probably died from FIP early Saturday morning. She 
had started having seizures and was rushed to a 24 hours clinic. Norrice 
wastold there was no hope for her recovery, so she was euthanized.. 
When she was rescued she was always thin and somewhat sickly, she has good 
times but often had a fever which would come and go. Norrice, had her 
to the vet, numerous times and previouslythey could not find anything 
specifically wrong.This past week though, the blood work showed that 
Twiggy was slightly anemic,had a high white blood count, elevated 
liver enzymelevels, and ahigh globulin count.She tested 
negative for both feline leukemia and aids. She was always listless and 
since she never ate much, or gained much weight, she was named 
"Twiggy". "Twiggy" came from a house with many unaltered animals (now 
they are all altered) and some kitten deaths (probably also from FIP). 
Norrice, took Twiggy, to get her to a better environment. Twiggy's life, 
though indeed short, was one filled with love and much 
caring..
Thank 
you,

Joan


RE: CLS - Twiggy

2005-08-30 Thread Doljan, Joan
Title: Message



Kerry,

Thank 
you so much. I have passed your email onto Norrice.

Joan

  
  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MacKenzie, 
  Kerry N.Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 5:12 PMTo: 
  felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: RE: CLS - 
  Twiggy
  Joan, please convey my deepest sympathy to Norrice on 
  her sad loss of Twiggy. Norricewas obviously a devoted and loving mom. 
  I'm glad Twiggy knew what it was to be loved and cared for so much in her 
  short life. Kerry
  
  
  
  -Original Message-
  
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Doljan, 
  JoanSent: Monday, August 29, 2005 6:07 AMTo: 
  'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org'Cc: 'Raymaker, Norrice 
  (LEGAL)'Subject: CLS - Twiggy
  Belinda,
  
  Please add, my 
  friend, Norrice's kitten Twiggy to the Candlelight Service. She was 
  about 9 months old, and probably died from FIP early Saturday morning. She had 
  started having seizures and was rushed to a 24 hours clinic. Norrice 
  wastold there was no hope for her recovery, so she was euthanized.. When 
  she was rescued she was always thin and somewhat sickly, she has good times 
  but often had a fever which would come and go. Norrice, had her to the 
  vet, numerous times and previouslythey could not find anything 
  specifically wrong.This past week though, the blood work showed that 
  Twiggy was slightly anemic,had a high white blood count, elevated liver 
  enzymelevels, and ahigh globulin count.She tested negative 
  for both feline leukemia and aids. She was always listless and since she never 
  ate much, or gained much weight, she was named "Twiggy". "Twiggy" came 
  from a house with many unaltered animals (now they are all altered) and some 
  kitten deaths (probably also from FIP). Norrice, took Twiggy, to get her 
  to a better environment. Twiggy's life, though indeed short, was one filled 
  with love and much caring..
  Thank 
  you,
  
  Joan
  
  
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CLS - Twiggy

2005-08-29 Thread Doljan, Joan
Title: Message



Belinda,

Please add, my 
friend, Norrice's kitten Twiggy to the Candlelight Service. She was about 
9 months old, and probably died from FIP early Saturday morning. She had started 
having seizures and was rushed to a 24 hours clinic. Norrice wastold there 
was no hope for her recovery, so she was euthanized.. When she was rescued she 
was always thin and somewhat sickly, she has good times but often had a fever 
which would come and go. Norrice, had her to the vet, numerous times and 
previouslythey could not find anything specifically wrong.This past 
week though, the blood work showed that Twiggy was slightly anemic,had a 
high white blood count, elevated liver enzymelevels, and ahigh 
globulin count.She tested negative for both feline leukemia and aids. She 
was always listless and since she never ate much, or gained much weight, she was 
named "Twiggy". "Twiggy" came from a house with many unaltered animals 
(now they are all altered) and some kitten deaths (probably also from 
FIP). Norrice, took Twiggy, to get her to a better environment. Twiggy's 
life, though indeed short, was one filled with love and much 
caring..
Thank 
you,

Joan


Re: CLS - Twiggy

2005-08-29 Thread jenmeyer
Joan, please tell your friend how very sorry I am to hear that Twiggy
had to go...I'm sure she is a bright, shiney new fur-angel completely
uninhibited, now...I know Twiggy is going to be pretty busy for awhile,
but I'm sure she'll be watching over the wonderful people who watched
over her for the short time that she was here...Big hugs to Norrice!

Jen


But if you tame me, then we shall need each other. To me, you will be
unique in all the world. To you, I shall be unique in all the world; You
become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed... --Antoine de
Saint-Exupéry

If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know
each other.  If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and what
you do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys. --Chief Dan
George

- Original Message -
From: Doljan, Joan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Monday, August 29, 2005 6:06 am
Subject: CLS - Twiggy

 Belinda,
 
 Please add, my friend, Norrice's kitten Twiggy to the Candlelight 
 Service.She was about 9 months old, and probably died from FIP 
 early Saturday
 morning. She had started having seizures and was rushed to a 24 hours
 clinic. Norrice was told there was no hope for her recovery, so she 
 waseuthanized.. When she was rescued she was always thin and 
 somewhat sickly,
 she has good times but often had a fever which would come and go.  
 Norrice,had her to the vet, numerous times and previously they 
 could not find
 anything specifically wrong. This past week though, the blood work 
 showedthat Twiggy was slightly anemic, had a high white blood 
 count, elevated
 liver enzyme levels, and a high globulin count. She tested negative 
 for both
 feline leukemia and aids. She was always listless and since she 
 never ate
 much, or gained much weight, she was named Twiggy.  Twiggy came 
 from a
 house with many unaltered animals (now they are all altered) and 
 some kitten
 deaths (probably also from FIP).  Norrice, took Twiggy, to get her 
 to a
 better environment. Twiggy's life, though indeed short, was one 
 filled with
 love and much caring..
 Thank you,
 
 Joan




RE: CLS - Twiggy

2005-08-29 Thread Doljan, Joan
Thank you.  I have passed your email to her.

Joan

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 12:03 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: CLS - Twiggy


Joan, please tell your friend how very sorry I am to hear that Twiggy had to
go...I'm sure she is a bright, shiney new fur-angel completely uninhibited,
now...I know Twiggy is going to be pretty busy for awhile, but I'm sure
she'll be watching over the wonderful people who watched over her for the
short time that she was here...Big hugs to Norrice!

Jen


But if you tame me, then we shall need each other. To me, you will be
unique in all the world. To you, I shall be unique in all the world; You
become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed... --Antoine de
Saint-Exupéry

If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know each
other.  If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and what you do
not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys. --Chief Dan George

- Original Message -
From: Doljan, Joan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Monday, August 29, 2005 6:06 am
Subject: CLS - Twiggy

 Belinda,
 
 Please add, my friend, Norrice's kitten Twiggy to the Candlelight
 Service.She was about 9 months old, and probably died from FIP 
 early Saturday
 morning. She had started having seizures and was rushed to a 24 hours
 clinic. Norrice was told there was no hope for her recovery, so she 
 waseuthanized.. When she was rescued she was always thin and 
 somewhat sickly,
 she has good times but often had a fever which would come and go.  
 Norrice,had her to the vet, numerous times and previously they 
 could not find
 anything specifically wrong. This past week though, the blood work 
 showedthat Twiggy was slightly anemic, had a high white blood 
 count, elevated
 liver enzyme levels, and a high globulin count. She tested negative 
 for both
 feline leukemia and aids. She was always listless and since she 
 never ate
 much, or gained much weight, she was named Twiggy.  Twiggy came 
 from a
 house with many unaltered animals (now they are all altered) and 
 some kitten
 deaths (probably also from FIP).  Norrice, took Twiggy, to get her 
 to a
 better environment. Twiggy's life, though indeed short, was one 
 filled with
 love and much caring..
 Thank you,
 
 Joan
 



RE: CLS - Twiggy

2005-08-29 Thread Lisa Ward
I am very sorry to hear about Twiggy, I also have a kitty (Cloud) dying of
feline lekuminia, she has no energy, the vet says there is nothing that can
be doneGood please her.Lisa Ward

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 12:03 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: CLS - Twiggy

Joan, please tell your friend how very sorry I am to hear that Twiggy
had to go...I'm sure she is a bright, shiney new fur-angel completely
uninhibited, now...I know Twiggy is going to be pretty busy for awhile,
but I'm sure she'll be watching over the wonderful people who watched
over her for the short time that she was here...Big hugs to Norrice!

Jen


But if you tame me, then we shall need each other. To me, you will be
unique in all the world. To you, I shall be unique in all the world; You
become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed... --Antoine de
Saint-Exupéry

If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know
each other.  If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and what
you do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys. --Chief Dan
George

- Original Message -
From: Doljan, Joan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Monday, August 29, 2005 6:06 am
Subject: CLS - Twiggy

 Belinda,
 
 Please add, my friend, Norrice's kitten Twiggy to the Candlelight 
 Service.She was about 9 months old, and probably died from FIP 
 early Saturday
 morning. She had started having seizures and was rushed to a 24 hours
 clinic. Norrice was told there was no hope for her recovery, so she 
 waseuthanized.. When she was rescued she was always thin and 
 somewhat sickly,
 she has good times but often had a fever which would come and go.  
 Norrice,had her to the vet, numerous times and previously they 
 could not find
 anything specifically wrong. This past week though, the blood work 
 showedthat Twiggy was slightly anemic, had a high white blood 
 count, elevated
 liver enzyme levels, and a high globulin count. She tested negative 
 for both
 feline leukemia and aids. She was always listless and since she 
 never ate
 much, or gained much weight, she was named Twiggy.  Twiggy came 
 from a
 house with many unaltered animals (now they are all altered) and 
 some kitten
 deaths (probably also from FIP).  Norrice, took Twiggy, to get her 
 to a
 better environment. Twiggy's life, though indeed short, was one 
 filled with
 love and much caring..
 Thank you,
 
 Joan
 




Re: RE: CLS - Twiggy--Lisa

2005-08-29 Thread jenmeyer
I am so sorry to hear about Cloud!  Has the vet given you a definitive 
diagnosis?  Cats don't generally die of the Feleuk virus itself, but 
rather because of diseases that take advantage of the cat's weakened 
immune system...is Cloud anemic?



But if you tame me, then we shall need each other. To me, you will be 
unique in all the world. To you, I shall be unique in all the world; 
You become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed... --Antoine 
de Saint-Exupéry

If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know 
each other.  If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and 
what you do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys. --
Chief Dan George

- Original Message -
From: Lisa Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Monday, August 29, 2005 11:21 am
Subject: RE: CLS - Twiggy

 I am very sorry to hear about Twiggy, I also have a kitty (Cloud) 
 dying of
 feline lekuminia, she has no energy, the vet says there is nothing 
 that can
 be doneGood please her.Lisa Ward
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 12:03 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: CLS - Twiggy
 
 Joan, please tell your friend how very sorry I am to hear that Twiggy
 had to go...I'm sure she is a bright, shiney new fur-angel completely
 uninhibited, now...I know Twiggy is going to be pretty busy for 
 awhile,but I'm sure she'll be watching over the wonderful people 
 who watched
 over her for the short time that she was here...Big hugs to Norrice!
 
 Jen
 
 
 But if you tame me, then we shall need each other. To me, you 
 will be
 unique in all the world. To you, I shall be unique in all the 
 world; You
 become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed... --Antoine de
 Saint-Exupéry
 
 If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know
 each other.  If you do not talk to them you will not know them, 
 and what
 you do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys. --
 Chief Dan
 George
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Doljan, Joan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Monday, August 29, 2005 6:06 am
 Subject: CLS - Twiggy
 
  Belinda,
  
  Please add, my friend, Norrice's kitten Twiggy to the 
 Candlelight 
  Service.She was about 9 months old, and probably died from FIP 
  early Saturday
  morning. She had started having seizures and was rushed to a 24 
 hours clinic. Norrice was told there was no hope for her 
 recovery, so she 
  waseuthanized.. When she was rescued she was always thin and 
  somewhat sickly,
  she has good times but often had a fever which would come and 
 go.  
  Norrice,had her to the vet, numerous times and previously they 
  could not find
  anything specifically wrong. This past week though, the blood 
 work 
  showedthat Twiggy was slightly anemic, had a high white blood 
  count, elevated
  liver enzyme levels, and a high globulin count. She tested 
 negative 
  for both
  feline leukemia and aids. She was always listless and since she 
  never ate
  much, or gained much weight, she was named Twiggy.  Twiggy 
 came 
  from a
  house with many unaltered animals (now they are all altered) and 
  some kitten
  deaths (probably also from FIP).  Norrice, took Twiggy, to get 
 her 
  to a
  better environment. Twiggy's life, though indeed short, was one 
  filled with
  love and much caring..
  Thank you,
  
  Joan
  
 
 




RE: CLS - Twiggy

2005-08-29 Thread Doljan, Joan
Thank you.  I have passed your email on to Norrice.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lisa Ward
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 12:22 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: CLS - Twiggy


I am very sorry to hear about Twiggy, I also have a kitty (Cloud) dying of
feline lekuminia, she has no energy, the vet says there is nothing that can
be doneGood please her.Lisa Ward

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 12:03 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: CLS - Twiggy

Joan, please tell your friend how very sorry I am to hear that Twiggy had to
go...I'm sure she is a bright, shiney new fur-angel completely uninhibited,
now...I know Twiggy is going to be pretty busy for awhile, but I'm sure
she'll be watching over the wonderful people who watched over her for the
short time that she was here...Big hugs to Norrice!

Jen


But if you tame me, then we shall need each other. To me, you will be
unique in all the world. To you, I shall be unique in all the world; You
become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed... --Antoine de
Saint-Exupéry

If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know each
other.  If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and what you do
not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys. --Chief Dan George

- Original Message -
From: Doljan, Joan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Monday, August 29, 2005 6:06 am
Subject: CLS - Twiggy

 Belinda,
 
 Please add, my friend, Norrice's kitten Twiggy to the Candlelight
 Service.She was about 9 months old, and probably died from FIP 
 early Saturday
 morning. She had started having seizures and was rushed to a 24 hours
 clinic. Norrice was told there was no hope for her recovery, so she 
 waseuthanized.. When she was rescued she was always thin and 
 somewhat sickly,
 she has good times but often had a fever which would come and go.  
 Norrice,had her to the vet, numerous times and previously they 
 could not find
 anything specifically wrong. This past week though, the blood work 
 showedthat Twiggy was slightly anemic, had a high white blood 
 count, elevated
 liver enzyme levels, and a high globulin count. She tested negative 
 for both
 feline leukemia and aids. She was always listless and since she 
 never ate
 much, or gained much weight, she was named Twiggy.  Twiggy came 
 from a
 house with many unaltered animals (now they are all altered) and 
 some kitten
 deaths (probably also from FIP).  Norrice, took Twiggy, to get her 
 to a
 better environment. Twiggy's life, though indeed short, was one 
 filled with
 love and much caring..
 Thank you,
 
 Joan
 




Re: CLS - Twiggy

2005-08-29 Thread Belinda Sauro

  Lisa,
Has Cloud had bloodwork done and is she anemic?   I hate it when vets 
say nothing can be done, so many blanket any positive cat that gets sick 
with hte FeLV is kicking in and nothing can be done 


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FW: CLS - Twiggy

2005-08-29 Thread Doljan, Joan


-Original Message-
From: Raymaker, Norrice (LEGAL) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 12:48 PM
To: Doljan, Joan
Subject: RE: CLS - Twiggy


Thank you, Joan.  Thank you, Jen.  I too hope Twiggy is now happy and
healthy and being a wild girl kitten in Kitty Heaven.  Lisa, I will pray for
you and Cloud.

Norrice

-Original Message-
From: Doljan, Joan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 12:41 PM
To: Raymaker, Norrice (LEGAL)
Subject: FW: CLS - Twiggy



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lisa Ward
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 12:22 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: CLS - Twiggy


I am very sorry to hear about Twiggy, I also have a kitty (Cloud) dying of
feline lekuminia, she has no energy, the vet says there is nothing that can
be doneGood please her.Lisa Ward

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 12:03 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: CLS - Twiggy

Joan, please tell your friend how very sorry I am to hear that Twiggy had to
go...I'm sure she is a bright, shiney new fur-angel completely uninhibited,
now...I know Twiggy is going to be pretty busy for awhile, but I'm sure
she'll be watching over the wonderful people who watched over her for the
short time that she was here...Big hugs to Norrice!

Jen


But if you tame me, then we shall need each other. To me, you will be
unique in all the world. To you, I shall be unique in all the world; You
become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed... --Antoine de
Saint-Exupéry

If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know each
other.  If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and what you do
not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys. --Chief Dan George

- Original Message -
From: Doljan, Joan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Monday, August 29, 2005 6:06 am
Subject: CLS - Twiggy

 Belinda,
 
 Please add, my friend, Norrice's kitten Twiggy to the Candlelight 
 Service.She was about 9 months old, and probably died from FIP early 
 Saturday morning. She had started having seizures and was rushed to a 
 24 hours clinic. Norrice was told there was no hope for her recovery, 
 so she waseuthanized.. When she was rescued she was always thin and
 somewhat sickly,
 she has good times but often had a fever which would come and go.  
 Norrice,had her to the vet, numerous times and previously they 
 could not find
 anything specifically wrong. This past week though, the blood work 
 showedthat Twiggy was slightly anemic, had a high white blood 
 count, elevated
 liver enzyme levels, and a high globulin count. She tested negative 
 for both
 feline leukemia and aids. She was always listless and since she 
 never ate
 much, or gained much weight, she was named Twiggy.  Twiggy came 
 from a
 house with many unaltered animals (now they are all altered) and 
 some kitten
 deaths (probably also from FIP).  Norrice, took Twiggy, to get her 
 to a
 better environment. Twiggy's life, though indeed short, was one 
 filled with
 love and much caring..
 Thank you,
 
 Joan



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RE: RE: CLS - Twiggy--Lisa

2005-08-29 Thread Lisa Ward
Hello,
  Yes, they said Cloud is anemic, he is very tired and weak..Lisa

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 12:31 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: RE: CLS - Twiggy--Lisa

I am so sorry to hear about Cloud!  Has the vet given you a definitive 
diagnosis?  Cats don't generally die of the Feleuk virus itself, but 
rather because of diseases that take advantage of the cat's weakened 
immune system...is Cloud anemic?



But if you tame me, then we shall need each other. To me, you will be 
unique in all the world. To you, I shall be unique in all the world; 
You become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed... --Antoine 
de Saint-Exupéry

If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know 
each other.  If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and 
what you do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys. --
Chief Dan George

- Original Message -
From: Lisa Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Monday, August 29, 2005 11:21 am
Subject: RE: CLS - Twiggy

 I am very sorry to hear about Twiggy, I also have a kitty (Cloud) 
 dying of
 feline lekuminia, she has no energy, the vet says there is nothing 
 that can
 be doneGood please her.Lisa Ward
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 12:03 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: CLS - Twiggy
 
 Joan, please tell your friend how very sorry I am to hear that Twiggy
 had to go...I'm sure she is a bright, shiney new fur-angel completely
 uninhibited, now...I know Twiggy is going to be pretty busy for 
 awhile,but I'm sure she'll be watching over the wonderful people 
 who watched
 over her for the short time that she was here...Big hugs to Norrice!
 
 Jen
 
 
 But if you tame me, then we shall need each other. To me, you 
 will be
 unique in all the world. To you, I shall be unique in all the 
 world; You
 become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed... --Antoine de
 Saint-Exupéry
 
 If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know
 each other.  If you do not talk to them you will not know them, 
 and what
 you do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys. --
 Chief Dan
 George
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Doljan, Joan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Monday, August 29, 2005 6:06 am
 Subject: CLS - Twiggy
 
  Belinda,
  
  Please add, my friend, Norrice's kitten Twiggy to the 
 Candlelight 
  Service.She was about 9 months old, and probably died from FIP 
  early Saturday
  morning. She had started having seizures and was rushed to a 24 
 hours clinic. Norrice was told there was no hope for her 
 recovery, so she 
  waseuthanized.. When she was rescued she was always thin and 
  somewhat sickly,
  she has good times but often had a fever which would come and 
 go.  
  Norrice,had her to the vet, numerous times and previously they 
  could not find
  anything specifically wrong. This past week though, the blood 
 work 
  showedthat Twiggy was slightly anemic, had a high white blood 
  count, elevated
  liver enzyme levels, and a high globulin count. She tested 
 negative 
  for both
  feline leukemia and aids. She was always listless and since she 
  never ate
  much, or gained much weight, she was named Twiggy.  Twiggy 
 came 
  from a
  house with many unaltered animals (now they are all altered) and 
  some kitten
  deaths (probably also from FIP).  Norrice, took Twiggy, to get 
 her 
  to a
  better environment. Twiggy's life, though indeed short, was one 
  filled with
  love and much caring..
  Thank you,
  
  Joan
  
 
 
 




Re: CLS - Twiggy--Lisa

2005-08-29 Thread Belinda Sauro
  Is he getting supplemented with pet tinnic or has your vet suggested 
a transfusion, the liver shake is also good for this.  I hope to God 
your vet did tests to see if the anemia is regenerative or 
non-regenerative, if not get a new vet ASAP and have tests done for 
hemobartenella, infact I would get Cloud on doxocylcline just to be safe 
it won't hurt him and couls well save his life if it is hemo.


And most important if Cloud is not eating YOU MUST syringe feed, any 
sick cat that doesn't get enough food will not have the strength to 
fight off anything and WILL have firther complications from not getting 
enough nutrition which will eventually kill it no matter how much 
medication you are giving it.  Nothing but food will cure Fatty Liver 
Disease, something inappetent cats get all too frequently while the vets 
hem and haw about other things going on and the owners have no idea how 
dangerous not eating can be for cats!!


--
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RE: CLS - Twiggy--Lisa

2005-08-29 Thread Lisa Ward
What is a liver shake? Shall I puree raw liver and syringe feed it to her?
What is hemobartenella? The vet mentioned nothing of the sort. Is
doxocylcline the same as amoxicillian...? Lisa

-Original Message-
From: Belinda Sauro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 2:02 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: CLS - Twiggy--Lisa

   Is he getting supplemented with pet tinnic or has your vet suggested 
a transfusion, the liver shake is also good for this.  I hope to God 
your vet did tests to see if the anemia is regenerative or 
non-regenerative, if not get a new vet ASAP and have tests done for 
hemobartenella, infact I would get Cloud on doxocylcline just to be safe 
it won't hurt him and couls well save his life if it is hemo.

And most important if Cloud is not eating YOU MUST syringe feed, any 
sick cat that doesn't get enough food will not have the strength to 
fight off anything and WILL have firther complications from not getting 
enough nutrition which will eventually kill it no matter how much 
medication you are giving it.  Nothing but food will cure Fatty Liver 
Disease, something inappetent cats get all too frequently while the vets 
hem and haw about other things going on and the owners have no idea how 
dangerous not eating can be for cats!!

-- 
 Belinda
Happiness is being owned by cats ...

Be-Mi-Kitties ...
http://www.bemikitties.com

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Re: CLS - Twiggy--Lisa

2005-08-29 Thread Lernermichelle



Liver shake is a recipe for food that will tempt many cats who will not otherwise eat. Here is the recipe:

1 cup raw liver
1 cup V-8, tomato juice, or fresh carrot juice
1/4 cup water
1 raw egg yoke
1 teaspoon kelp or spirulina

Blend in blender until liquid and frothy. Heat a little in a bowl until warm, and offer it to Cloud. If Cloud won't eat it, put a little on her mouth to lick off. This might get her going (it worked with Simon and he became a big fan of the shake). If she still won't eat it, syringe about 20 cc's of it into three times a day. It is complete nutrition. You can also get A/D, a prescription food that is palatable, high in calories, and easy to syringe feed, at the vet's.

Dox is different than amoxicylliin-- it is broader spectrum. 

Michelle

In a message dated 8/29/05 2:20:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
What is a liver shake? Shall I puree raw liver and syringe feed it to her?What is hemobartenella? The vet mentioned nothing of the sort. Isdoxocylcline the same as amoxicillian...? Lisa



Re: CLS - Twiggy--Lisa

2005-08-29 Thread Belinda Sauro

  Hi Lisa,
  No Doxocycline is not the same as Amoxocylin, doxo is one of the 
preferred antibiotics used where hemo is diagnosed.  The liver shake is 
a recipe which has liver as the main ingredient, I will find it and post 
it to the list, coming right up.  It is good for cats who are anemic, 
but the best thing is to see an internal specialist as suggested and 
find out why Cloud is anemic.


--
Belinda
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Re: CLS - Twiggy--Lisa

2005-08-29 Thread Lernermichelle



To give water to a cat, we usually give subutaneous fluids, which a vet needs to give you and show you how to give. The liver shake has a lot of liquid in it. If Cloud eat it or you syringe it, I would not worry about syringing water orally. When you next see a vet, though, you might want to ask about sub-q fluids. They are not hard to give. The thing with anemia is, though, that if you hydrate then too much they feel more anemic because it thins the blood. So right now I would focus on food and getting a real diagnosis and probably some steroids and antibiotics.
Michelle

In a message dated 8/29/05 2:48:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Thank you Michelle, 
 I am going to go get the stuff to make this in about 1.5 hrs...Thank youMaybe Cloud will eat this...What about water, should I be feeding Cloud water also? Lisa




RE: CLS - Twiggy--Lisa

2005-08-29 Thread Lisa Ward








Thank you again Michelle,


I will try everything you suggested...Just a quick question on the liver
shake you said kelp or spirulina, never heard of that is it some kind of syrup,
can I buy this a the food store? Lisa



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 2:52
PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: CLS - Twiggy--Lisa







To give water to a cat, we usually
give subutaneous fluids, which a vet needs to give you and show you how to
give. The liver shake has a lot of liquid in it. If Cloud eat it or you syringe
it, I would not worry about syringing water orally. When you next see a
vet, though, you might want to ask about sub-q fluids. They are not hard
to give. The thing with anemia is, though, that if you hydrate then too much
they feel more anemic because it thins the blood. So right now I would focus on
food and getting a real diagnosis and probably some steroids and antibiotics.





Michelle











In a message dated 8/29/05 2:48:35
PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:





Thank you Michelle, 


I am going to go get the stuff to make this in about 1.5 hrs...Thank
youMaybe Cloud will eat this...What about water, should I be feeding Cloud
water also? Lisa














Re: CLS - Twiggy--Lisa

2005-08-29 Thread Lernermichelle



Kelp is a seaweed and spirulina is an algae. You can buy them both in powder or capsule (which can be opened) form at a health food store and at some supermarkets in the vitamin section. If you can't get these easily they are not essential to the recipe-- they provide extra vitamins and minerals, but right now the most important thing is to get food into him, any food you can. 
Michelle

In a message dated 8/29/05 3:08:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Thank you again Michelle,
 I will try everything you suggested...Just a quick question on the liver shake you said kelp or spirulina, never heard of that is it some kind of syrup, can I buy this a the food store? Lisa



RE: CLS - Twiggy--Lisa

2005-08-29 Thread Lisa Ward








Thank you, I will let you know tomorrow,
what is happening..Lisa



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 3:12
PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: CLS - Twiggy--Lisa







Kelp is a seaweed and spirulina is
an algae. You can buy them both in powder or capsule (which can be opened) form
at a health food store and at some supermarkets in the vitamin section.
If you can't get these easily they are not essential to the recipe-- they
provide extra vitamins and minerals, but right now the most important thing is
to get food into him, any food you can. 





Michelle











In a message dated 8/29/05 3:08:06
PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:





Thank you again Michelle,


I will try everything you suggested...Just a quick question on the liver shake
you said kelp or spirulina, never heard of that is it some kind of syrup, can I
buy this a the food store? Lisa












Re: CLS - Twiggy--Lisa

2005-08-29 Thread Nina




Lisa, while you are at the store. Pick up some babyfood. Meat and
broth, no veggies, no garlic, no onion. Beechnut is better that
Gerbers, because Gerbers has corn starch. Sometimes heating it just a
bit brings out the aroma and gets kitties interested in eating.
Sometimes just a tiny bit on a flat dish, sometimes putting it in front
of their face again and again... You get the idea. Let us know how
you and Cloud are doing.
Nina

Lisa Ward wrote:

  
  
  
  
  Thank you
again Michelle,
  
I will try everything you suggested...Just a quick question on the
liver
shake you said kelp or spirulina, never heard of that is it some kind
of syrup,
can I buy this a the food store? Lisa
  
  





RE: CLS - Twiggy

2005-08-29 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
Title: Message



Joan, 
please convey my deepest sympathy to Norrice on her sad loss of Twiggy. 
Norricewas obviously a devoted and loving mom. I'm glad Twiggy knew what 
it was to be loved and cared for so much in her short life. 
Kerry



-Original Message-

From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
On Behalf Of Doljan, JoanSent: Monday, August 29, 2005 6:07 
AMTo: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org'Cc: 'Raymaker, Norrice 
(LEGAL)'Subject: CLS - Twiggy
Belinda,

Please add, my 
friend, Norrice's kitten Twiggy to the Candlelight Service. She was about 
9 months old, and probably died from FIP early Saturday morning. She had started 
having seizures and was rushed to a 24 hours clinic. Norrice wastold there 
was no hope for her recovery, so she was euthanized.. When she was rescued she 
was always thin and somewhat sickly, she has good times but often had a fever 
which would come and go. Norrice, had her to the vet, numerous times and 
previouslythey could not find anything specifically wrong.This past 
week though, the blood work showed that Twiggy was slightly anemic,had a 
high white blood count, elevated liver enzymelevels, and ahigh 
globulin count.She tested negative for both feline leukemia and aids. She 
was always listless and since she never ate much, or gained much weight, she was 
named "Twiggy". "Twiggy" came from a house with many unaltered animals 
(now they are all altered) and some kitten deaths (probably also from 
FIP). Norrice, took Twiggy, to get her to a better environment. Twiggy's 
life, though indeed short, was one filled with love and much 
caring..
Thank 
you,

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Re: CLS - Twiggy

2005-08-29 Thread Terri Brown
Title: Message




Please extend my condolences to your friend.

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  - Original Message - 
  From: Doljan, Joan 
  To: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org' 
  
  Cc: 'Raymaker, Norrice 
  (LEGAL)' 
  Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 7:06 
  AM
  Subject: CLS - Twiggy
  
  Belinda,
  
  Please add, my 
  friend, Norrice's kitten Twiggy to the Candlelight Service. She was 
  about 9 months old, and probably died from FIP early Saturday morning. She had 
  started having seizures and was rushed to a 24 hours clinic. Norrice 
  wastold there was no hope for her recovery, so she was euthanized.. When 
  she was rescued she was always thin and somewhat sickly, she has good times 
  but often had a fever which would come and go. Norrice, had her to the 
  vet, numerous times and previouslythey could not find anything 
  specifically wrong.This past week though, the blood work showed that 
  Twiggy was slightly anemic,had a high white blood count, elevated liver 
  enzymelevels, and ahigh globulin count.She tested negative 
  for both feline leukemia and aids. She was always listless and since she never 
  ate much, or gained much weight, she was named "Twiggy". "Twiggy" came 
  from a house with many unaltered animals (now they are all altered) and some 
  kitten deaths (probably also from FIP). Norrice, took Twiggy, to get her 
  to a better environment. Twiggy's life, though indeed short, was one filled 
  with love and much caring..
  Thank 
  you,
  
  Joan