Coughing Satchmo, Mindboggling Medication
Sorry it's taken a few days to get back with you on the specifics, but...well, you'll see. My vet emailed me back about the herbs in Satch's asthma powder. I'll cut and paste from her email, then include links to Google searches that I did next to the ingredients - all text is hers, but anything within are my additions. I think that Eastern medecine is fascinating...in part because it all sounds like a kung fu movie, and I like to visualize the minor blue dragon kicking ass in Satch's bloodstream. Click on a few of these, I learned a lot, hopefully you guys will find it interesting: --- Hello.So how well do you know pin yin names of chinese herbs? It's part Xiao Qing Long Tang http://tcm.health-info.org/formulas/singles/Xiao-qing-long-tang.htm (minor blue dragon combination) and eight other singular herbs: Huang Qi seems like this is just astragalus: http://alternativehealing.org/huang_qi.htm Dong Chong Xia Cao http://www.heritage.com.sg/monograph/prod32.htm Lian Qiao http://alternativehealing.org/lian_qiao.htm SHeng Jiang this looks like it's ginger root:http://www.herbalists.on.ca/resources/freeman/ZINGIB.html Shan Yao http://alternativehealing.org/huai_shan.htm Shan Zhu Yu I don't know about the whole invigorating the yang of the loins bit, but: http://www.ibiblio.org/pfaf/cgi-bin/arr_html?Cornus+officinalis Chen Pi this one has very interesting infounder the Pharmacology section: http://content.nhiondemand.com/moh/media/TCMH1.asp?objID=100823ctype=tcmh Zi Su Ye http://tcm.health-info.org/Herbology.Materia.Medica/zisuye-properties.htm Hope this helps! Indeed. Leslie From: Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: Asthma Hee hee.It's rare that anyone gets away with being vague abouttreatments around here.We're always so anxious to see what anyone elseis trying and if it seems to be working.How wonderful that you've found a holistic vet that you like.I have one that's about an houraway from me.She's the best vet I've ever found for dealing withreluctant patients, but she isn't that good at all the 'not so common'problems that are always so abundant around my house.She's also very expensive and hard to get an appointment with.I used to say Brucewould be perfect if only he had a trust fund, now I'm wishing he'd spenthis expensive education in veterinary school as well.Take notes when you talk to your vet :-) , N
Re: Coughing Satchmo, Mindboggling Medication
Leslie - so these are the herbs you are using for FeLV or for Satch's asthma? Do you find that these are helping? I know herbs are hard on a cat's system... so I'm really curious how this is working for Satch and how he is accepting them into his food. I'm VERY interested in how this works Leslie=^..^= On 10/9/06, Leslie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry it's taken a few days to get back with you on the specifics, but...well, you'll see. My vet emailed me back about the herbs in Satch's asthma powder. I'll cut and paste from her email, then include links to Google searches that I did next to the ingredients - all text is hers, but anything within are my additions. I think that Eastern medecine is fascinating...in part because it all sounds like a kung fu movie, and I like to visualize the minor blue dragon kicking ass in Satch's bloodstream. Click on a few of these, I learned a lot, hopefully you guys will find it interesting: --- Hello.So how well do you know pin yin names of chinese herbs? It's part Xiao Qing Long Tang http://tcm.health-info.org/formulas/singles/Xiao-qing-long-tang.htm (minor blue dragon combination) and eight other singular herbs: Huang Qi seems like this is just astragalus: http://alternativehealing.org/huang_qi.htm Dong Chong Xia Cao http://www.heritage.com.sg/monograph/prod32.htm Lian Qiao http://alternativehealing.org/lian_qiao.htm SHeng Jiang this looks like it's ginger root:http://www.herbalists.on.ca/resources/freeman/ZINGIB.html Shan Yao http://alternativehealing.org/huai_shan.htm Shan Zhu Yu I don't know about the whole invigorating the yang of the loins bit, but: http://www.ibiblio.org/pfaf/cgi-bin/arr_html?Cornus+officinalis Chen Pi this one has very interesting infounder the Pharmacology section: http://content.nhiondemand.com/moh/media/TCMH1.asp?objID=100823ctype=tcmh Zi Su Ye http://tcm.health-info.org/Herbology.Materia.Medica/zisuye-properties.htm Hope this helps! Indeed. Leslie From: Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: Asthma Hee hee.It's rare that anyone gets away with being vague abouttreatments around here.We're always so anxious to see what anyone elseis trying and if it seems to be working.How wonderful that you've found a holistic vet that you like.I have one that's about an houraway from me.She's the best vet I've ever found for dealing withreluctant patients, but she isn't that good at all the 'not so common'problems that are always so abundant around my house.She's also very expensive and hard to get an appointment with.I used to say Brucewould be perfect if only he had a trust fund, now I'm wishing he'd spenthis expensive education in veterinary school as well.Take notes when you talk to your vet :-) , N-- Leslie =^..^=To leave the world a better place - whether by a healthy child, a garden patch, or an improved social condition - that is to have succeeded.That only one life breathed easier because you lived - that is success. ---Ralph Waldo Emerson
Re: Coughing Satchmo, Mindboggling Medication
Hi Leslie, yes these are the asthma herbs. My vet liked the combination of the Feline Immune Support pills for his immune system and these herbs that are for the asthma, but also immune support. I hadn't heard that herbs were hard on cats - I knew that essential oils were to be avoided, but had thought herbs to be a safe alternative, I'd be interested to hear more on that. He doesn't object to them mixed into his food at all, in fact, first I mixed in with a lot of food to dilute it (it's a very fine powder), and he'd lose interest as he got full, so I'd lose some to the scavenging kitten (who at 5.5 lbs already has a bigger ration than her 13 lb counterpart). Just yesterday, I mixed his dose (it's about 1/8 teaspoon twice a day) in a couple teaspoons of wet food and he gobbled it right down. Now I can control more easily that he is the one getting that medication. It smells kind of chocolatey to me...a deep smell, not offensive, but I haven't tasted it yet, I should just to see (maybe get some blue dragon action going myself). He's been on it about a week and a half and his progress seems to continue. It's hard to tell, though, admittedly. He'll go a few days with only a slight huff, and then he'll do the cough/inhale. His fits aren't nearly as prolonged as Fritz's on the link that you sent me (thank you very much, those were very interesting) - his cough/inhales last maybe three seconds, then he swallows hard and walks on, but as your links highlighted, it's no indication that a serious, prolongedattack might not occur. I don't know what he's inhaling that's triggering it, I can't think of any obvious changes.I have the Dyson Animal Vac, so I'll try and use it more (don't know how Mom got him in cahoots with her!) and I'll see about getting an air cleaner like you suggested. My vet is optimistic that his dosage will be able to be cut back, she said that many cats respond well to this. The container of powder cost $22.50 and I'd hope to get at least two months out of it...maybe more. I'll be sure to keep you up to date with progress reports. Leslie From: Leslie Lawther [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Coughing Satchmo, Mindboggling Medication*Leslie - so these are the herbs you are using for FeLV or for Satch'sasthma?Do you find that these are helping?I know herbs are hard on acat's system... so I'm really curious how this is working for Satch and how he is accepting them into his food.I'm VERY interested in how thisworks**Leslie=^..^=*
