Re: Fluids at home

2007-03-07 Thread Belinda

  Thanks for posting that Leslie, I couldn't find my bookmarked link.

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Re: Fluids at home

2007-03-07 Thread Belinda

Hi Leslie & Del,
   That was me, here is the link to my original message, basically you 
just put anywhere from 2 to 5 or 6 clothes pins on the scruff of the 
neck.  Fred still tried biting, but he couldn't reach me with them on.  
He's very good now, only needed to do that for a week or so.


http://www.mail-archive.com/felvtalk@felineleukemia.org/msg24339.html

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Re: Fluids at home

2007-03-07 Thread Leslie Lawther

*You're very welcome!  I dismissed it when I first saw it... until I saw
someone else that tried it and said (much to my surprise) that it worked!
So I bookmarked it...   Good luck!  And let us know if it does work!!*
*Leslie =^..^=*


On 3/7/07, Del H. Daniels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


 *Thank you Leslie :)  Lots of info there for me.*
**
*Del*

- Original Message -
*From:* Leslie Lawther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
*To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 *Sent:* Wednesday, March 07, 2007 2:45 PM
*Subject:* Re: Fluids at home


*Found it!
<** http://www.felinecrf.org/giving_sub-qs_syringe.htm#clothes_peg_trick 
*<http://www.felinecrf.org/giving_sub-qs_syringe.htm#clothes_peg_trick+>
*>** http://www.felinecrf.org/giving_sub-qs_syringe.htm#clothes_peg_trick
* <http://www.felinecrf.org/giving_sub-qs_syringe.htm#clothes_peg_trick+>*

**Leslie =^..^=
*
On 3/7/07, Leslie Lawther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> *Someone had posted a clothes-pin trick... does anyone have that link
> still?!   Sounds like this would do the trick for this little one...*
>
> *Leslie =^..^=*
>
>
>
> On 3/7/07, Del H. Daniels <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> >
> >  *Years ago I gave my Felipe fluids/sub-Q at home and he just sat
> > there, no problem.*
> > *PLEASE tell me what I can do to keep a jumpy fellow cooperative.  I
> > can't go back to the vet every day where he/Malachi, 18#, lays quite sweetly
> > for the tech.  This is the third day I have failed, confidence in myself is
> > history. Sent hubby out for chocolate to sooth my wounded ego.  Malachi is
> > generally an easy-going guy.  Any and all tips would be greatly
> > appreciated.  I have two CRF who will be needing sub-q soon, too. *
> > **
> > *Del*
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > *From:* Kelly L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 06, 2007 8:45 PM
> > *Subject:* Re: False positive and negative?
> >
> >
> > At 06:39 PM 3/6/2007, you wrote:
> >
> > BOY do you need a new VETand learn to do fluids at home, we can
> > all help and there is a pharmacy on line where you can get what you need
> > once you become comfortable and I CANT IMAGINE a vet with holding
> > treatment!
> > Congratulations for using your own brain and boy would I be telling
> > that vet off!!!
> > Kelly
> >
> >
> >
> > I have seen a lot of you post that your cats posted negative,
> > positive, negative. Is this common? Do some cats get over it or are the
> > tests errored?
> >
> > My beloved Nebs was diagnosed two weeks ago just after his fourth
> > birthday. I took him to the vet with a very bad case of the runs and no
> > appetite. The vet, one I had not been to before, told me Nebs was felv
> > positive and would be dead in a matter of days. He told me his kidneys were
> > huge and the virus had destroyed them. He recommended that I put him down
> > right away. I couldn't do it. He was too special and deserved a chance. He
> > told me nothing would help. I asked him to do what another vet had done for
> > another cat once, an injection of fluids for dehydration. He gave him that,
> > but refused any medication, saying it wouldn't do any good. The next day, I
> > begged him for some antibiotics and he gave me them but told me not to get
> > my hopes up. I gave Nebs the medicine, and some Pet-tonic. The next day he
> > was eating again. In two days, he was eating like a hog. In 3 days, his runs
> > were gone.
> >
> > It's now been 2 weeks, and instead of being dead as the doctor
> > predicted, he's practically back to normal! He's gained almost all his
> > weight back and has his swagger again. His third eyelid, present for almost
> > a year, is also gone. His stools are more normal than they've been in ages.
> > I am wondering if maybe he'd had a severe kidney and intestional infection,
> > and when that was cleared up, he was all right. I don't know if he's really
> > felv positive or not, I'll get him retested at another vet soon, but even if
> > he has it, his immune system was not as 'shot' as the vet said it was.
> >
> > So my questions are, are the tests sometimes wrong, and can a cat go
> > in and out of good health while being infected? I had always heard the first
> > sickness would basically be the last.
> >
> > I also want to say, please do not give up on your kitty if the vet
> > says to put him down, he's going to die. You know your pet better than
> > anyone, and if you feel he isn't

Re: Fluids at home

2007-03-07 Thread Del H. Daniels
Thank you Leslie :)  Lots of info there for me.

Del
  - Original Message - 
  From: Leslie Lawther 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 2:45 PM
  Subject: Re: Fluids at home


  Found it!  
  < http://www.felinecrf.org/giving_sub-qs_syringe.htm#clothes_peg_trick > 
http://www.felinecrf.org/giving_sub-qs_syringe.htm#clothes_peg_trick 

  Leslie =^..^=


  On 3/7/07, Leslie Lawther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
Someone had posted a clothes-pin trick... does anyone have that link 
still?!   Sounds like this would do the trick for this little one...
Leslie =^..^=



 
On 3/7/07, Del H. Daniels <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: 
  Years ago I gave my Felipe fluids/sub-Q at home and he just sat there, no 
problem.
  PLEASE tell me what I can do to keep a jumpy fellow cooperative.  I can't 
go back to the vet every day where he/Malachi, 18#, lays quite sweetly for the 
tech.  This is the third day I have failed, confidence in myself is history. 
Sent hubby out for chocolate to sooth my wounded ego.  Malachi is generally an 
easy-going guy.  Any and all tips would be greatly appreciated.  I have two CRF 
who will be needing sub-q soon, too. 

  Del
- Original Message - 
From: Kelly L 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 8:45 PM
Subject: Re: False positive and negative? 

 
At 06:39 PM 3/6/2007, you wrote:

BOY do you need a new VET....and learn to do fluids at home, we can all 
help and there is a pharmacy on line where you can get what you need once you 
become comfortable and I CANT IMAGINE a vet with holding treatment! 
Congratulations for using your own brain and boy would I be telling 
that vet off!!!
Kelly




  I have seen a lot of you post that your cats posted negative, 
positive, negative. Is this common? Do some cats get over it or are the tests 
errored?

  My beloved Nebs was diagnosed two weeks ago just after his fourth 
birthday. I took him to the vet with a very bad case of the runs and no 
appetite. The vet, one I had not been to before, told me Nebs was felv positive 
and would be dead in a matter of days. He told me his kidneys were huge and the 
virus had destroyed them. He recommended that I put him down right away. I 
couldn't do it. He was too special and deserved a chance. He told me nothing 
would help. I asked him to do what another vet had done for another cat once, 
an injection of fluids for dehydration. He gave him that, but refused any 
medication, saying it wouldn't do any good. The next day, I begged him for some 
antibiotics and he gave me them but told me not to get my hopes up. I gave Nebs 
the medicine, and some Pet-tonic. The next day he was eating again. In two 
days, he was eating like a hog. In 3 days, his runs were gone. 

  It's now been 2 weeks, and instead of being dead as the doctor 
predicted, he's practically back to normal! He's gained almost all his weight 
back and has his swagger again. His third eyelid, present for almost a year, is 
also gone. His stools are more normal than they've been in ages. I am wondering 
if maybe he'd had a severe kidney and intestional infection, and when that was 
cleared up, he was all right. I don't know if he's really felv positive or not, 
I'll get him retested at another vet soon, but even if he has it, his immune 
system was not as 'shot' as the vet said it was. 

  So my questions are, are the tests sometimes wrong, and can a cat go 
in and out of good health while being infected? I had always heard the first 
sickness would basically be the last.

  I also want to say, please do not give up on your kitty if the vet 
says to put him down, he's going to die. You know your pet better than anyone, 
and if you feel he isn't at his end, don't do it. I am so glad I gave Nebs 
another chance when the vet didn't. 


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patch, or an improved social condition - that is to have succeeded.  That only 
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Re: Fluids at home

2007-03-07 Thread Leslie Lawther

*Found it!
<** 
http://www.felinecrf.org/giving_sub-qs_syringe.htm#clothes_peg_trick*<http://www.felinecrf.org/giving_sub-qs_syringe.htm#clothes_peg_trick>
*>** 
http://www.felinecrf.org/giving_sub-qs_syringe.htm#clothes_peg_trick*<http://www.felinecrf.org/giving_sub-qs_syringe.htm#clothes_peg_trick>
*

**Leslie =^..^=
*
On 3/7/07, Leslie Lawther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


*Someone had posted a clothes-pin trick... does anyone have that link
still?!   Sounds like this would do the trick for this little one...*

*Leslie =^..^=*



On 3/7/07, Del H. Daniels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  *Years ago I gave my Felipe fluids/sub-Q at home and he just sat there,
> no problem.*
> *PLEASE tell me what I can do to keep a jumpy fellow cooperative.  I
> can't go back to the vet every day where he/Malachi, 18#, lays quite sweetly
> for the tech.  This is the third day I have failed, confidence in myself is
> history. Sent hubby out for chocolate to sooth my wounded ego.  Malachi is
> generally an easy-going guy.  Any and all tips would be greatly
> appreciated.  I have two CRF who will be needing sub-q soon, too. *
> **
> *Del*
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Kelly L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 06, 2007 8:45 PM
> *Subject:* Re: False positive and negative?
>
>
> At 06:39 PM 3/6/2007, you wrote:
>
> BOY do you need a new VETand learn to do fluids at home, we can all
> help and there is a pharmacy on line where you can get what you need once
> you become comfortable and I CANT IMAGINE a vet with holding
> treatment!
> Congratulations for using your own brain and boy would I be telling that
> vet off!!!
> Kelly
>
>
>
> I have seen a lot of you post that your cats posted negative, positive,
> negative. Is this common? Do some cats get over it or are the tests errored?
>
> My beloved Nebs was diagnosed two weeks ago just after his fourth
> birthday. I took him to the vet with a very bad case of the runs and no
> appetite. The vet, one I had not been to before, told me Nebs was felv
> positive and would be dead in a matter of days. He told me his kidneys were
> huge and the virus had destroyed them. He recommended that I put him down
> right away. I couldn't do it. He was too special and deserved a chance. He
> told me nothing would help. I asked him to do what another vet had done for
> another cat once, an injection of fluids for dehydration. He gave him that,
> but refused any medication, saying it wouldn't do any good. The next day, I
> begged him for some antibiotics and he gave me them but told me not to get
> my hopes up. I gave Nebs the medicine, and some Pet-tonic. The next day he
> was eating again. In two days, he was eating like a hog. In 3 days, his runs
> were gone.
>
> It's now been 2 weeks, and instead of being dead as the doctor
> predicted, he's practically back to normal! He's gained almost all his
> weight back and has his swagger again. His third eyelid, present for almost
> a year, is also gone. His stools are more normal than they've been in ages.
> I am wondering if maybe he'd had a severe kidney and intestional infection,
> and when that was cleared up, he was all right. I don't know if he's really
> felv positive or not, I'll get him retested at another vet soon, but even if
> he has it, his immune system was not as 'shot' as the vet said it was.
>
> So my questions are, are the tests sometimes wrong, and can a cat go in
> and out of good health while being infected? I had always heard the first
> sickness would basically be the last.
>
> I also want to say, please do not give up on your kitty if the vet says
> to put him down, he's going to die. You know your pet better than anyone,
> and if you feel he isn't at his end, don't do it. I am so glad I gave Nebs
> another chance when the vet didn't.
>
>
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Re: Fluids at home

2007-03-07 Thread Leslie Lawther

*Someone had posted a clothes-pin trick... does anyone have that link
still?!   Sounds like this would do the trick for this little one...*

*Leslie =^..^=*



On 3/7/07, Del H. Daniels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


 *Years ago I gave my Felipe fluids/sub-Q at home and he just sat there,
no problem.*
*PLEASE tell me what I can do to keep a jumpy fellow cooperative.  I can't
go back to the vet every day where he/Malachi, 18#, lays quite sweetly for
the tech.  This is the third day I have failed, confidence in myself is
history. Sent hubby out for chocolate to sooth my wounded ego.  Malachi is
generally an easy-going guy.  Any and all tips would be greatly
appreciated.  I have two CRF who will be needing sub-q soon, too.*
**
*Del*

- Original Message -
*From:* Kelly L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
*To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
*Sent:* Tuesday, March 06, 2007 8:45 PM
*Subject:* Re: False positive and negative?


At 06:39 PM 3/6/2007, you wrote:

BOY do you need a new VET....and learn to do fluids at home, we can all
help and there is a pharmacy on line where you can get what you need once
you become comfortable and I CANT IMAGINE a vet with holding
treatment!
Congratulations for using your own brain and boy would I be telling that
vet off!!!
Kelly



I have seen a lot of you post that your cats posted negative, positive,
negative. Is this common? Do some cats get over it or are the tests errored?

My beloved Nebs was diagnosed two weeks ago just after his fourth
birthday. I took him to the vet with a very bad case of the runs and no
appetite. The vet, one I had not been to before, told me Nebs was felv
positive and would be dead in a matter of days. He told me his kidneys were
huge and the virus had destroyed them. He recommended that I put him down
right away. I couldn't do it. He was too special and deserved a chance. He
told me nothing would help. I asked him to do what another vet had done for
another cat once, an injection of fluids for dehydration. He gave him that,
but refused any medication, saying it wouldn't do any good. The next day, I
begged him for some antibiotics and he gave me them but told me not to get
my hopes up. I gave Nebs the medicine, and some Pet-tonic. The next day he
was eating again. In two days, he was eating like a hog. In 3 days, his runs
were gone.

It's now been 2 weeks, and instead of being dead as the doctor predicted,
he's practically back to normal! He's gained almost all his weight back and
has his swagger again. His third eyelid, present for almost a year, is also
gone. His stools are more normal than they've been in ages. I am wondering
if maybe he'd had a severe kidney and intestional infection, and when that
was cleared up, he was all right. I don't know if he's really felv positive
or not, I'll get him retested at another vet soon, but even if he has it,
his immune system was not as 'shot' as the vet said it was.

So my questions are, are the tests sometimes wrong, and can a cat go in
and out of good health while being infected? I had always heard the first
sickness would basically be the last.

I also want to say, please do not give up on your kitty if the vet says to
put him down, he's going to die. You know your pet better than anyone, and
if you feel he isn't at his end, don't do it. I am so glad I gave Nebs
another chance when the vet didn't.


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Re: Fluids at home

2007-03-07 Thread Del H. Daniels
Years ago I gave my Felipe fluids/sub-Q at home and he just sat there, no 
problem.
PLEASE tell me what I can do to keep a jumpy fellow cooperative.  I can't go 
back to the vet every day where he/Malachi, 18#, lays quite sweetly for the 
tech.  This is the third day I have failed, confidence in myself is history. 
Sent hubby out for chocolate to sooth my wounded ego.  Malachi is generally an 
easy-going guy.  Any and all tips would be greatly appreciated.  I have two CRF 
who will be needing sub-q soon, too.

Del
  - Original Message - 
  From: Kelly L 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 8:45 PM
  Subject: Re: False positive and negative? 


  At 06:39 PM 3/6/2007, you wrote:

  BOY do you need a new VETand learn to do fluids at home, we can all help 
and there is a pharmacy on line where you can get what you need once you become 
comfortable and I CANT IMAGINE a vet with holding treatment!
  Congratulations for using your own brain and boy would I be telling that vet 
off!!!
  Kelly




I have seen a lot of you post that your cats posted negative, positive, 
negative. Is this common? Do some cats get over it or are the tests errored?

My beloved Nebs was diagnosed two weeks ago just after his fourth birthday. 
I took him to the vet with a very bad case of the runs and no appetite. The 
vet, one I had not been to before, told me Nebs was felv positive and would be 
dead in a matter of days. He told me his kidneys were huge and the virus had 
destroyed them. He recommended that I put him down right away. I couldn't do 
it. He was too special and deserved a chance. He told me nothing would help. I 
asked him to do what another vet had done for another cat once, an injection of 
fluids for dehydration. He gave him that, but refused any medication, saying it 
wouldn't do any good. The next day, I begged him for some antibiotics and he 
gave me them but told me not to get my hopes up. I gave Nebs the medicine, and 
some Pet-tonic. The next day he was eating again. In two days, he was eating 
like a hog. In 3 days, his runs were gone.

It's now been 2 weeks, and instead of being dead as the doctor predicted, 
he's practically back to normal! He's gained almost all his weight back and has 
his swagger again. His third eyelid, present for almost a year, is also gone. 
His stools are more normal than they've been in ages. I am wondering if maybe 
he'd had a severe kidney and intestional infection, and when that was cleared 
up, he was all right. I don't know if he's really felv positive or not, I'll 
get him retested at another vet soon, but even if he has it, his immune system 
was not as 'shot' as the vet said it was.

So my questions are, are the tests sometimes wrong, and can a cat go in and 
out of good health while being infected? I had always heard the first sickness 
would basically be the last.

I also want to say, please do not give up on your kitty if the vet says to 
put him down, he's going to die. You know your pet better than anyone, and if 
you feel he isn't at his end, don't do it. I am so glad I gave Nebs another 
chance when the vet didn't.


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