Re: Lysine question

2006-05-13 Thread Lernermichelle




Carmen,
 Did you mean to send me this message individually, because 
that is how it was sent. I do not even think I weighed in on the recent lysine 
discussion, so I think maybe it was a mis-send?
 I do know that a lot of people in this group have given 
their cats 500 mg per day, though, and that this is a standard. It is true that 
cats are smaller, but they handle certain things differently (for instance they 
can handle way way more steroids proportionally than we can), and also I am not 
sure that taking extra lysine is actually toxic.

Michelle

In a message dated 5/13/2006 1:39:35 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  This is a quick response to your cat taking 
lysine.
  
  500 mg is what is to be given to humans at a humans average body 
  weight.
   
  NOT a little animals!
  
  So if you are giving 500mg to a small animal ( cat 
  averagesabout 8 to 15 lbs,) 
  that is way out of proportion to itsbody weight to ratio . 
  And you stated you are or where administering this supplement everyday. This 
  is got to beway to much for the animal. This could lead to some 
  toxicity reaction. Or just the animal not feeling to good. 
  
  
  I would not give a cat or dog Over 250 mg a day. Think of the 
  animals stomach. There stomachs are not built like a humans at all. 
  
  
  Also did you ever think of crushing the pill and mixing in the 
  food.
  good luck




Re: Lysine question

2006-05-13 Thread Rachel Martineau
I'm just speaking from my personal recent experience and what I was told by my holistic MD (human doc who I see for thyroid). I don't have a holistic vet in my area that I go to, so I asked her. 


The first FeLV+ rescue I took in recently was doing really poorly on the topical and oral antibiotics for a herpeseye infection. I am not a huge fan of using antibiotics and have used Lysine myself for cold sores in the winter. I had been giving him 500 mg of Lysine in wet food once a day, but still he wasn't improving very fast.


I can't remember who (I'm sorry, but THANK YOU) on this group gave me the advice to bump it up to 1000 mg a day and start giving him Felivite II also. 1000 mg seemed like an awful lot for a tiny kitty. He had severe anemia from flea infestation as well so he was a miserable 7 pounds. 


My doc said Lysine has little toxicity since it's an amino acid. It CAN increase the toxicity of certain medication and long term in high doses has shown a tendency to cause gallstones in humans (though she didn't know how likely this was in animals). It doesn't cause stomach upset. 


Peanut has been on 1000 mg of Lysine in two divided doses for nearly 2 weeks, along with the Felivite II. She also recommended I add Pau d' Arco once a day to his food and use a few drops of Goldenseal with his eyewash when cleaning the gunk from his eyes. 


It has worked wonders, better than I expected. In just a couple of days, his eyes were almost clear. He has started putting on weight fast. He's now up to almost 9 pounds and just looks so much healthier. 


Anyway, if you can find a holistic vet or even a human nutritionist to call, it might make you feel better about giving Lysine in that dose. I wasn't seeing improvement at 500 mg, which was just my experience. 


Good luck!

~ Rachel


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On 5/13/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:





Carmen,
 Did you mean to send me this message individually, because that is how it was sent. I do not even think I weighed in on the recent lysine discussion, so I think maybe it was a mis-send?
 I do know that a lot of people in this group have given their cats 500 mg per day, though, and that this is a standard. It is true that cats are smaller, but they handle certain things differently (for instance they can handle way way more steroids proportionally than we can), and also I am not sure that taking extra lysine is actually toxic.


Michelle

In a message dated 5/13/2006 1:39:35 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


This is a quick response to your cat taking lysine.

500 mg is what is to be given to humans at a humans average body weight.
 NOT a little animals!

So if you are giving 500mg to a small animal ( cat averagesabout 8 to 15 lbs,) 
that is way out of proportion to itsbody weight to ratio . And you stated you are or where administering this supplement everyday. This is got to beway to much for the animal. This could lead to some toxicity reaction. Or just the animal not feeling to good. 


I would not give a cat or dog Over 250 mg a day. Think of the animals stomach. There stomachs are not built like a humans at all. 

Also did you ever think of crushing the pill and mixing in the food.
good luck

-- We give dogs time we can spare, space we can spare and love we can spare. And in return, dogs give us their all. It's the best deal man has ever made.
~ M. Facklam 


Re: Lysine question

2006-05-13 Thread Kerry Roach
I give Bandy at least 500mg of lysine sprinkled on all his meals...I divide it among several meals through out the day so he gets at least 500 daily and sometimes alittle more..His eye specialist said keep giving that to him as it is good for the eyes...I don't really know how much he eats of it, but I always put it on the food..In several books that I have, that is the recommended dosage daily. Hope this helps..  Kerry, Bandy, Inky and Angels Buster, Lil Rascal and Snoopy
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