Re: Mixing FeLVs and FIVs?

2006-04-30 Thread felv



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Re: Mixing FeLVs and FIVs?

2006-04-27 Thread Becca DuBose
Jen,I've just joined the FIVCATS Yahoo! list and there has been a lot of discussion about "mixing". Quite a few members of that list allow their positives and negatives to mix freely provided there's no fighting, as deep bite wounds are the usual route of transmission. We took in an FIV+ cat, before we learned to be more careful, and took care of her until she died. We've had no problems and the cats who have been tested have tested negative.We're taking our chances with sweet Buddy boy...we just couldn't send him away to live somewhere else. He chooses to stay in "his" room and eat from his own dish most of the time (we started leaving the door open after a few days of letting him make short forays into the rest of the house and watching his interactions with the others). He hasn't fought with anyone, in fact he retreats when picked on. No wonder he was having such a rough time of it out in the
 world!Becca[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Guys!I'm so sorry I haven't been able to keep up with list as much as I wouldlike...seems I can't get a break lately!I just have a quick question for those who care for both FeLVs andFIVs...I just found out that a stray guy that we took in a bit ago isFIV+!  This actually wasn't surprising to me as he seemed to have a fewhealth issues that just weren't clearing up!  He's been hanging out inour spare room w/ all the amenities but I'd like to let him join the GP,if that is at all possible!  My vet wasn't at all concerned...sheactually has a FIV guy who mingles with her crew...but she says that sheseparates food and water dishes as a precaution.  Well, I don't know howeasy that would be for me...food is left out round the clock
 andeverybody shares the water bowl!So I guess I'm just looking for a little advice from those who care forboth...do you mix?  It would be some time before he'll join the gang aswe need to address his health issues first (bad stomatitis for which hehas a "dental" scheduled next week--I wouldn't be surprised if a fewteeth need to be pulled!)...But all-in-all, he's the sweetest guy...somellow and only asks that you pet him 24/7... ;)Thanks so much, guys!Jen"But if you tame me, then we shall need each other. To me, you will beunique in all the world. To you, I shall be unique in all the world; Youbecome responsible, forever, for what you have tamed..." --Antoine deSaint-Exup�ry"If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will knoweach other.  If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and whatyou do not know you
 will fear. What one fears one destroys." --Chief DanGeorge

Re: Mixing FeLVs and FIVs?

2006-04-27 Thread Becca DuBose
I think I addressed my last message to the wrong person - sorry!Just wanted to add that little Angel Paassht did not contract FIV+ despite living under the same roof with Angel TorTor. I wouldn't bring Buddy in as long as we had Paassht so I suspect she "pre-approved" him and set everything up a couple of weeks ago.Becca[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A FIV+ cat is several times more likely to get FELV than a negative cat, they haveabout the same chances as kittens in catching FELV (or any cat with a weak orundeveloped immune system).That being said, you have to go by quality of life. Even IF he does get FELV frommixing with your crew, would that be a worse fate then being left out on the streets,or where-ever he came from to begin with?There's very little risk to you FELV cats, if that was more
 of the question. FIV isONLY spread through deep penetrating bite wounds. So long as you aren't getting anycat fights there, then your FELV cats wont be in any danger of getting the FIV fromhim.Jennhttp://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.htmlAdopt a cat from Little Cheetah (UCAT) Cat Rescue:http://ucat.us/adopt.htmlPLEASE DONATE TO THE TANGLE FUND:Tangle is a cat in Greece that was severely injured when someone wrapped wire aroundhis neck to strangle him,Little Cheetah Cat Rescue is raising funds to bring Tangle to Vermont to find him agood home!http://ucat.us/tangle-fund.htmlDONATE: We could really use a power saw (for construction), a digital camera (forpictures), and more towels!

Re: Mixing FeLVs and FIVs?

2006-04-27 Thread jenmeyer
No, you got it right!  :)  I know that there is sometimes a little
confusion with the two Jens on the list!  :)  I just have the one n
whereas Jenn has two which I'm attributing to the double duty and then
some that she does for Rescue!  Jenn never ceases to amaze me in what
she does for our furry friends who need all the help they can get!  :)

I just wanted to thank everyone for their replies!  You've given me alot
to think about...I've also joined the FIV list on Yahoo!  Thanks for
that tip, Becca!

Jenn--that was the question I posed to my vet, but she never gave me a
clear answer as to who was more susceptible...perhaps I didn't word my
question very clearly to her as my mind was, of course, spinning with
the diagnosis!  It all happened so fast, they took the blood, then
minutes later someone was in the room with me looking for a retrovirus
pamphlet...I actually thought the pamphlet was for someone else!  My vet
didn't seem surprised at all that he tested positive for FIV and went
about her regular routine as if he just had a little cold!  ;)  This is
not to knock my vet, of course, she knows that I'll care for him
none-the-less...it's a relief having a vet who doesn't assume that these
viruses are an automatic death sentence!

She did, however, give him the FeLV vaccine...I'm not up-to-date on the
current thinking as far as FIV and vaccines...but I'm sure I'll learn
alot from the FIV list!

But it's like Jenn said, for me, it's quality not quantity...a life
separated or outdoors is no life for Chatty.  He wants to be inside next
to a warm body for whatever time he has left here (the vet guesses his
age at 9 years).  He is such a mellow guy...I don't anticipate any
problems on his end as far as biting is concerned.  I think I'll go back
to giving everyone interferon as I had stopped in order to have it as a
back-up in case anyone got sick.  But someone or something brought him
to our doorstep...so I'm counting on that individual to watch over us in
the meantime!  ;)

Thanks so much guys...I really appreciate the advice!

Jen



But if you tame me, then we shall need each other. To me, you will be
unique in all the world. To you, I shall be unique in all the world; You
become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed... --Antoine de
Saint-Exupéry

If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know
each other.  If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and what
you do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys. --Chief Dan
George

- Original Message -
From: Becca DuBose [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thursday, April 27, 2006 6:44 pm
Subject: Re: Mixing FeLVs and FIVs?
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

 I think I addressed my last message to the wrong person - sorry!
 
 Just wanted to add that little Angel Paassht did not contract FIV+ 
 despite living under the same roof with Angel TorTor.  I wouldn't 
 bring Buddy in as long as we had Paassht so I suspect she pre-
 approved him and set everything up a couple of weeks ago.
 
 Becca
 
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A FIV+ cat is several times more likely to get 
 FELV than a negative cat, they have
 about the same chances as kittens in catching FELV (or any cat with 
 a weak or
 undeveloped immune system).
 
 That being said, you have to go by quality of life. Even IF he does 
 get FELV from
 mixing with your crew, would that be a worse fate then being left 
 out on the streets,
 or where-ever he came from to begin with?
 
 There's very little risk to you FELV cats, if that was more of the 
 question. FIV is
 ONLY spread through deep penetrating bite wounds. So long as you 
 aren't getting any
 cat fights there, then your FELV cats wont be in any danger of 
 getting the FIV from
 him.
 
 Jenn
 http://ucat.us
 http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
 Adopt a cat from Little Cheetah (UCAT) Cat Rescue:
 http://ucat.us/adopt.html
 PLEASE DONATE TO THE TANGLE FUND:
 Tangle is a cat in Greece that was severely injured when someone 
 wrapped wire around
 his neck to strangle him,
 Little Cheetah Cat Rescue is raising funds to bring Tangle to 
 Vermont to find him a
 good home!
 http://ucat.us/tangle-fund.html
 DONATE: We could really use a power saw (for construction), a 
 digital camera (for
 pictures), and more towels!
 




Mixing FeLVs and FIVs?

2006-04-26 Thread jenmeyer
Hi Guys!

I'm so sorry I haven't been able to keep up with list as much as I would
like...seems I can't get a break lately!

I just have a quick question for those who care for both FeLVs and
FIVs...I just found out that a stray guy that we took in a bit ago is
FIV+!  This actually wasn't surprising to me as he seemed to have a few
health issues that just weren't clearing up!  He's been hanging out in
our spare room w/ all the amenities but I'd like to let him join the GP,
if that is at all possible!  My vet wasn't at all concerned...she
actually has a FIV guy who mingles with her crew...but she says that she
separates food and water dishes as a precaution.  Well, I don't know how
easy that would be for me...food is left out round the clock and
everybody shares the water bowl!

So I guess I'm just looking for a little advice from those who care for
both...do you mix?  It would be some time before he'll join the gang as
we need to address his health issues first (bad stomatitis for which he
has a dental scheduled next week--I wouldn't be surprised if a few
teeth need to be pulled!)...But all-in-all, he's the sweetest guy...so
mellow and only asks that you pet him 24/7... ;)

Thanks so much, guys!

Jen


But if you tame me, then we shall need each other. To me, you will be
unique in all the world. To you, I shall be unique in all the world; You
become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed... --Antoine de
Saint-Exupéry

If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know
each other.  If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and what
you do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys. --Chief Dan
George




Re: Mixing FeLVs and FIVs?

2006-04-26 Thread Susan Hoffman
I have two FIV+ cats and I have been told not to vaccinate them against FeLV. I personally am reluctant to take in an FeLV+ cat because of these two boys, as well as a couple of seniors, and the constant stream of foster kittens.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Hi Guys!I'm so sorry I haven't been able to keep up with list as much as I wouldlike...seems I can't get a break lately!I just have a quick question for those who care for both FeLVs andFIVs...I just found out that a stray guy that we took in a bit ago isFIV+! This actually wasn't surprising to me as he seemed to have a fewhealth issues that just weren't clearing up! He's been hanging out inour spare room w/ all the amenities but I'd like to let him join the GP,if that is at all possible! My vet wasn't at all concerned...sheactually has a FIV
 guy who mingles with her crew...but she says that sheseparates food and water dishes as a precaution. Well, I don't know howeasy that would be for me...food is left out round the clock andeverybody shares the water bowl!So I guess I'm just looking for a little advice from those who care forboth...do you mix? It would be some time before he'll join the gang aswe need to address his health issues first (bad stomatitis for which hehas a "dental" scheduled next week--I wouldn't be surprised if a fewteeth need to be pulled!)...But all-in-all, he's the sweetest guy...somellow and only asks that you pet him 24/7... ;)Thanks so much, guys!Jen"But if you tame me, then we shall need each other. To me, you will beunique in all the world. To you, I shall be unique in all the world; Youbecome responsible, forever, for what you have tamed..." --Antoine
 deSaint-Exupéry"If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will knoweach other. If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and whatyou do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys." --Chief DanGeorge

Re: Mixing FeLVs and FIVs?

2006-04-26 Thread felv
A FIV+ cat is several times more likely to get FELV than a negative cat, they 
have
about the same chances as kittens in catching FELV (or any cat with a weak or
undeveloped immune system).

That being said, you have to go by quality of life. Even IF he does get FELV 
from
mixing with your crew, would that be a worse fate then being left out on the 
streets,
or where-ever he came from to begin with?

There's very little risk to you FELV cats, if that was more of the question. 
FIV is
ONLY spread through deep penetrating bite wounds. So long as you aren't getting 
any
cat fights there, then your FELV cats wont be in any danger of getting the FIV 
from
him.

Jenn
http://ucat.us
http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
Adopt a cat from Little Cheetah (UCAT) Cat Rescue:
http://ucat.us/adopt.html
PLEASE DONATE TO THE TANGLE FUND:
Tangle is a cat in Greece that was severely injured when someone wrapped wire 
around
his neck to strangle him,
Little Cheetah Cat Rescue is raising funds to bring Tangle to Vermont to find 
him a
good home!
http://ucat.us/tangle-fund.html
DONATE: We could really use a power saw (for construction), a digital camera 
(for
pictures), and more towels!



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