RE: AC - cats marking

2005-06-16 Thread Kathleen A. Berard
Usually the marking is a territory/dominance thing, rarely is that a
sign of a health problem. I wouldn't know if he's always done that but
if he was an outdoor cat, most likely so. Every time you add a cat to
the household, everyone has to shuffle around and re-rank, and this cat
is probably just establishing his position, which is normal (although
undesirable). 

I work with these types of cases from time to time; there's no magic
answer. Just like dogs work out who is top dog, cats will structure
their own hierarchy, and that just plays out however it plays out. Be
sure not to be visualizing him marking when you're not around; picture
him walking through the house, having no vested interest in the
furniture, walls etc., and absolutely do not visualize him spraying.
What you want to do is get across to him that the house is a nice place
for everyone. Picture him pottying in the box, and only there. 

Also send him pictures of him laying quietly with all the cats, having
no feelings or vested interest about getting to be friends with them.
That's not necessary or reasonable (we don't like every person we meet).
Instead, you want to convey that every being in the home has to treat
the others with respect and courtesy, that's all.

Get a squirt bottle, put it on squirt rather than spray. If you catch
him in the act (and only if you catch him, can't discipline afterwards,
timing is crucial), squirt him in the body (never the face) with the
water. Cats don't like water. If you get the timing right, he will come
to associate the squirt with spraying and hopefully stop. 

Also, please be sure that you have thoroughly cleaned these marked areas
with a good cleaner (not vinegar, smells too much like urine). There are
a lot of products on the market that can be efficient. Note that the
ones that have enzymes in them to break down urine, you must keep the
carpet or area saturated with the liquid for at least 20 minutes. So be
sure to put enough on. 

Kat

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Hi Kat,

I have a question not sure if you can answer this but I have a cat 
bengal that came to the house one day. 

I have him up for adoption but he had some health issues so I was 
holding back on adopting meanwhile he is best buds with one of 
my cats. 

He has know started to mark places in the house. Most of the 
places where places the cat that was marking (that stopped).

My question is do you know if he is unhappy here, has he always 
done this is he trying to tell me something. I had him tested for 
urine. I had complete blood work done he drinks like a horse too!

He knows better cos if I see him and he is gonna start I yell and he 
runs like he knows this is not right.

Any ideas you can see

Thanks
Carla








RE: AC - cats marking

2005-06-16 Thread carlas
Kat

Thanks I never thought of the spray bottle.
He was an indoor outdoor declawed cat! 
I know that declaws sometimes do this.

I always tell him he is a good boy when I see him
use the box.

I am using some flower essences with him and also 
have the feliway plug ins and the spray(which I use after
cleaning the wall)

I will keep the visions of him being calm and relaxed with the other.
I know with multi cat house hold especially foster it's hard.

I welcome all new ideas it's a challenge to find out what the 
problem is. I solved the felmale cats problem a year ago through
trial and error.

Thank you so much
Carla



RE: AC - cats marking

2005-06-16 Thread tamara stickler
If the squirt bottle doesn't work...use a soft-light-weight foam ball and wing it at him. (I know it sound aweful to throw anything at your animal...which is why I said only a soft foam ball that can't possible hurt them. It will distract without injuringyou can always soak it in lemon juice, but ONLY use it DRY. The lemon smell will be on the ball- cats don't like citrus and it will further help to reinforce the experience as an unpleasant one without causing lasting damage.

(We tried squirt bottles to keep Quintapus off the counter tops to no avail. When he was a kitten-adolescent, Mom got so frustrated one evening when he hopped up to help himself to chicken that she was cooking for dinner that she turned the kitchen sink hose/rinser on himhe just LEANED into it  shut his eyes  started purring!..we were laughing so hard we were crying. So we had to come up with an alternative. The nerf ball worked better for us, but only AFTER we soaked and dryed the lemon juice to it.)
T"Kathleen A. Berard" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Get a squirt bottle, put it on squirt rather than spray. If you catchhim in the act (and only if you catch him, can't discipline afterwards,timing is crucial), squirt him in the body (never the face) with thewater. Cats don't like water. If you get the timing right, he will cometo associate the squirt with spraying and hopefully stop.
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RE: AC - cats marking

2005-06-16 Thread carlas
Thanks Tamara,
I will try the lemom ball too

Carla





RE: AC - cats marking

2005-06-16 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
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That's 
hilarious! What a cutie--he deservedto have that 
chicken!

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cats marking
If the squirt bottle doesn't work...use a soft-light-weight foam ball and 
wing it at him. (I know it sound aweful to throw anything at your 
animal...which is why I said only a soft foam ball that can't possible hurt 
them. It will distract without injuringyou can always soak it in lemon 
juice, but ONLY use it DRY. The lemon smell will be on the ball- cats 
don't like citrus and it will further help to reinforce the experience as an 
unpleasant one without causing lasting damage.

(We tried squirt bottles to keep Quintapus off the counter tops to no 
avail. When he was a kitten-adolescent, Mom got so frustrated one evening 
when he hopped up to help himself to chicken that she was cooking for dinner 
that she turned the kitchen sink hose/rinser on himhe just LEANED 
into it  shut his eyes  started purring!..we were laughing so hard 
we were crying. So we had to come up with an alternative. The nerf 
ball worked better for us, but only AFTER we soaked and dryed the lemon juice to 
it.)
T"Kathleen A. Berard" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
Get 
  a squirt bottle, put it on squirt rather than spray. If you catchhim in 
  the act (and only if you catch him, can't discipline afterwards,timing is 
  crucial), squirt him in the body (never the face) with thewater. Cats 
  don't like water. If you get the timing right, he will cometo associate 
  the squirt with spraying and hopefully stop.


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RE: AC - cats marking

2005-06-16 Thread Lewis Faye
On some cats, squirt bottles are nothing but challenges (I have a couple). I use one of those large UZI type water guns that kids play with. It will soak the cat instead of spray. Also, don't let them see you do it. Make them them think that the action is causing the water and not you that way, they won't do it when you aren't around either. I trained a cat to leave my bird alone using this method and he lived 10 years harmoniously with my birds."MacKenzie, Kerry N." [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


That's hilarious! What a cutie--he deservedto have that chicken!

-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of tamara sticklerSent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 11:20 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: RE: AC - cats marking
If the squirt bottle doesn't work...use a soft-light-weight foam ball and wing it at him. (I know it sound aweful to throw anything at your animal...which is why I said only a soft foam ball that can't possible hurt them. It will distract without injuringyou can always soak it in lemon juice, but ONLY use it DRY. The lemon smell will be on the ball- cats don't like citrus and it will further help to reinforce the experience as an unpleasant one without causing lasting damage.

(We tried squirt bottles to keep Quintapus off the counter tops to no avail. When he was a kitten-adolescent, Mom got so frustrated one evening when he hopped up to help himself to chicken that she was cooking for dinner that she turned the kitchen sink hose/rinser on himhe just LEANED into it  shut his eyes  started purring!..we were laughing so hard we were crying. So we had to come up with an alternative. The nerf ball worked better for us, but only AFTER we soaked and dryed the lemon juice to it.)
T"Kathleen A. Berard" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Get a squirt bottle, put it on squirt rather than spray. If you catchhim in the act (and only if you catch him, can't discipline afterwards,timing is crucial), squirt him in the body (never the face) with thewater. Cats don't like water. If you get the timing right, he will cometo associate the squirt with spraying and hopefully stop.


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Re: AC - cats marking

2005-06-16 Thread TenHouseCats
how funny--is he a maine coon, or have coonie in his background?
they're notorious for loving water and LIKING the squirt bottle!

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Re: AC - cats marking

2005-06-16 Thread tamara stickler
NOPE, he was just a plain ol' little med-haired black and white who was absolutely certain that he was a pure bred! His father was a big oldblack (burmese mix) farm cat...his mom a tortie feral. (he passed this last March) He would sit on the edge of the tub each night and play in the water, dip his (monkey) tail in...curl it back up and shoot the water across the room at his his sisters (looked like one of those paper party favors that you blow on to unravel)...and of course EVERY spicot in the house was his very own drinking fountain.
:-)

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RE: AC - cats marking

2005-06-16 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
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What a 
riot! What an amazing little character!

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12:27 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: AC - 
cats marking
NOPE, he was just a plain ol' little med-haired black and white who was 
absolutely certain that he was a pure bred! His father was a big 
oldblack (burmese mix) farm cat...his mom a tortie feral. (he passed 
this last March) He would sit on the edge of the tub each night and play 
in the water, dip his (monkey) tail in...curl it back up and shoot the water 
across the room at his his sisters (looked like one of those paper party favors 
that you blow on to unravel)...and of course EVERY spicot in the house was his 
very own drinking fountain.
:-)

T
TenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
how 
  funny--is he a maine coon, or have coonie in his background?they're 
  notorious for loving water and LIKING the squirt bottle!-- 
  MaryChristineAIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCatsMSN: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ: 289856892


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Re: AC - cats marking

2005-06-16 Thread TatorBunz


I have always used water bottles and squirt guns. They do know what those items are. I have one that literally hates water. I don't have any qualms in using them either. 
Also, use them when they are picking on each other at times. Not very often though.

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Re: AC - cats marking

2005-06-16 Thread TatorBunz




I agree that is funny!
I will try this as well...nerf ball great idea!

In a message dated 6/16/2005 9:38:49 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

That's hilarious! What a cutie--he deservedto have that chicken!

-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of tamara sticklerSent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 11:20 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: RE: AC - cats marking
If the squirt bottle doesn't work...use a soft-light-weight foam ball and wing it at him. (I know it sound aweful to throw anything at your animal...which is why I said only a soft foam ball that can't possible hurt them. It will distract without injuringyou can always soak it in lemon juice, but ONLY use it DRY. The lemon smell will be on the ball- cats don't like citrus and it will further help to reinforce the experience as an unpleasant one without causing lasting damage.

(We tried squirt bottles to keep Quintapus off the counter tops to no avail. When he was a kitten-adolescent, Mom got so frustrated one evening when he hopped up to help himself to chicken that she was cooking for dinner that she turned the kitchen sink hose/rinser on himhe just LEANED into it  shut his eyes  started purring!..we were laughing so hard we were crying. So we had to come up with an alternative. The nerf ball worked better for us, but only AFTER we soaked and dryed the lemon juice to it.)
T


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Re: AC - cats marking

2005-06-16 Thread Barbara Baass

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I agree that is funny!
I will try this as well...nerf ball great idea!

In a message dated 6/16/2005 9:38:49 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

That's hilarious! What a cutie--he deservedto have that chicken!

-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of tamara sticklerSent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 11:20 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: RE: AC - cats marking
If the squirt bottle doesn't work...use a soft-light-weight foam ball and wing it at him. (I know it sound aweful to throw anything at your animal...which is why I said only a soft foam ball that can't possible hurt them. It will distract without injuringyou can always soak it in lemon juice, but ONLY use it DRY. The lemon smell will be on the ball- cats don't like citrus and it will further help to reinforce the experience as an unpleasant one without causing lasting damage.

(We tried squirt bottles to keep Quintapus off the counter tops to no avail. When he was a kitten-adolescent, Mom got so frustrated one evening when he hopped up to help himself to chicken that she was cooking for dinner that she turned the kitchen sink hose/rinser on himhe just LEANED into it  shut his eyes  started purring!..we were laughing so hard we were crying. So we had to come up with an alternative. The nerf ball worked better for us, but only AFTER we soaked and dryed the lemon juice to it.)
T


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