Re: Find the Pit Bull [Interesting and Scary]

2005-03-31 Thread Sheila208
I agree Gloria. I had a Pitt who lived to be 13 yrs old and never bit anyone or hurt any of my cats. I did have a hound that I couldn't trust at all with my kitties. 

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Re: Find the Pit Bull [Interesting and Scary]

2005-03-30 Thread Belinda Sauro
   If you click on the correct picture it will tell you, each picture 
goes to a link that say's what breed the dog is.  I don't want to give 
the answer and spoil it for someone who hasn't had a chance to try and 
figure it out yet.

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Re: Find the Pit Bull [Interesting and Scary]

2005-03-30 Thread Gloria B. Lane
Interesting.  Dogs can be bred for different features, of course. 
The casual term Pit Bull apparently refers to several different dogs. 
Don't think the American Pit Bull was historically bred or trained to 
kill in the way you're describing, at least I've read that.  As I 
recall, that's a more recent thing that's happened to some Pits, 
unfortunately - a result of the human being who wants that feature.

The features of animals change based on what breeders breed for - I 
don't think about that much with cats, because most of what I deal 
with are mixed breed cats.  Not so with dogs and horses - there's 
more of a breed orientation.  I'm not an expert, but I think that 
the features of the Quarter Horse have changed over the last 50 years 
- they look and act differently.

Pits can have different features, based on both breeding and 
conditioning by the owner. I found  interesting web sites re pits 
- I didn't realize that several breeds are casually referred to as 
Pits - anyhow, here are a few pages -

http://pitbulls.jentown.com/
http://pitbulls.jentown.com/WhatisaPitpage/whatisapitbull.htm
http://www.pawsitivelypitbull.org/resources.html
I had a part-pit dog back in the late 80's, early 90's. Great dog.  I 
trusted her with my cats totally - certainly more than I trust my 
sweet Walker Hound, who chases anything that moves.

Gloria
Wow, I can't believe how many of you cat folk are pit bull fans. You 
guys obviously don't live in Florida. It seems like every week 
there's a new story here about a pit bull mauling someone to death. 
And every time it's the same exact story. My dog is the sweetest 
dog. She's great with the kids. Then one day... Problem is, these 
breeds were originally bred to kill. It's in their genes and it's 
well documented that they can snap at any moment. It's like having a 
loaded gun sitting around the house. Sure it might protect me, but...

Now euthinizing dogs based on breed, that's a different story. I 
could never defend that. These dogs can't help who they are. But if 
you have children and you're mixing them with a breed that's known to 
kill, that borders on child abuse IMO. I don't care how sweet the dog 
is today. And sure a lab or schnoodel can snap also. But if a lab 
bites me, it's not a death sentence. Bottom line is there are plenty 
of other breeds out there you can choose from. If you have kids, 
there's absolutely no way you can justify buying a pit bull or 
similar breed. The possible cost (death of a child) far outweighs any 
benefit.

IMO, owning any breed of animal that's easily capable of killing 
somebody should require a special, extremely expensive license. To 
get the license, you would need to complete many hours of education 
on how to keep said animal from killing someone. Maybe that would 
slow down the breeding of such animals. That's the real problem. Just 
my opinion of course. Like I said, here in Florida things are 
different. The stupid people far outnumber the rest of us here. And 
sometimes you have to legislate to protect the rest of the population 
from the stupid people.

Oh yeah. Which was the pitbull? Was it number 20? I didn't see a link 
for getting the answer.

-Kyle
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This is an interesting test that I failed miserably, it's scary to 
think how dogs are wrongly classified as this breed and are wrongly 
persecuted.
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Take the test and see if you can pick out the pit bull out of this 
page of pictures.  It's amazing how many other breeds look similar.
http://www.pitbullsontheweb.com/petbull/findpit.htmlhttp://www.pitbullsontheweb.com/petbull/findpit.html
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RE: Find the Pit Bull [Interesting and Scary]

2005-03-30 Thread Chris









Im sorry but I have to disagree. You say
But if a lab bites me, it's not a death sentence, well-if a lab
bites a small child it could be a death sentence. Some dogs for whatever
the reasons have a temperment that just doesnt work with people.
Pits are no more prone to that than are other breeds. Problem is that too
many pit puppies are so horribly treated that they just are never able to
overcome their fear of people, fear of other dogs, etc. Again, its not
the genes but what was done to them at those early infancy stage. I have
one friend who took in a pit puppy found tied to a radiator. He had
apparently been used as dog for the other dogs to attack to train on.
Despite a year of almost hand raising with my friend, he never overcame his
fear of other dogs and attacked other dogs without apparent provocation 
warning. Obviously he felt threatened despite what anyone saw at the time After
the third such incident my friend very reluctantly euthanized him. He had
been too damaged, too beaten, too frightened to ever recover. 

My other friend with the pit who lets the cat push
him around had a bad experience with a neighbors little dog who grabbed her cat
and almost killed him. That dog was not vicious, but totally untrained
and she was always more worried about him then her pit around her
grandchildren.



So yes, just like with any other breed, terrible
things can happen with pits but again its how they were treated, not what genes
they have! 







Chris

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Wow, I can't
believe how many of you cat folk are pit bull fans. You guys obviously don't
live in Florida. It seems likeevery week
there's a new story here about a pit bull mauling someone to death. And every
time it's the same exact story. My dog is the sweetest dog. She's great
with the kids. Then one day... Problem is, these breeds were originally
bred to kill. It's in their genes and it's well documented that they can snap
at any moment. It's like having a loaded gun sitting around the house. Sure it
might protect me, but...











Now euthinizing
dogs based on breed, that's a different story. I could never defend that. These
dogs can't help who they are. But if you have children and you're mixing them
with a breed that's known to kill, that borders on child abuse IMO. I don't
care how sweet the dog is today. And sure a lab or schnoodel can snap also. But
if a lab bites me, it's not a death sentence. Bottom line is there are plenty
of other breeds out there you can choose from. If you have kids, there's
absolutely no way you can justify buying a pit bull or similar breed.The
possible cost (death of a child) far outweighs any benefit.











IMO, owning any
breed of animal that's easily capable of killing somebody should require a
special, extremely expensivelicense. To get the license, you would need
to complete many hours of education on how to keep said animal from killing
someone. Maybe that would slow down the breeding of such animals. That's the
real problem.Just my opinion of course. Like I said, here in Florida things are
different. The stupid people far outnumber the rest of us here. And sometimes
you have to legislate to protect the rest of the population from the stupid
people.











Oh yeah. Which was
the pitbull? Was it number 20? I didn't see a link for getting the answer.











-Kyle













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the Pit Bull [Interesting and Scary]











This is an interesting test that I failed miserably, it's scary to
think how dogs are wrongly classified as this breed and are wrongly persecuted.
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Take
the test and see if you can pick out the pit bull out of this page of
pictures. It's amazing how many other breeds look similar.





http://www.pitbullsontheweb.com/petbull/findpit.html



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RE: Find the Pit Bull [Interesting and Scary]

2005-03-29 Thread Chris









I wish more people would see this
breed specific laws are just crazy. My parents had a small llasa-terrier mix(we
think) who was the cutest thing on 4 feet but would nip at anyone whenever she
felt like it! I have a friend who had a small dog who got more visitors
standing on chairs  tableshe was a one person dog who would just
get you in the ankle right above your shoe. On the other hand, I have a
friend who has a pit rescue who stands at his dish crying when one of her 4
cats scoot under him to eat out of his food dish!





Chris

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This is an interesting test that I failed miserably, it's scary to
think how dogs are wrongly classified as this breed and are wrongly persecuted.
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Take
the test and see if you can pick out the pit bull out of this page of
pictures. It's amazing how many other breeds look similar.





http://www.pitbullsontheweb.com/petbull/findpit.html



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RE: Find the Pit Bull [Interesting and Scary]

2005-03-29 Thread catatonya
A friend of mine had a pit that the cats slept on. If she moved or tried to nudge them away he would say "Sally, let the cats sleep." And she would kind of moan and lay back down. lol.
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Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 





I wish more people would see this… breed specific laws are just crazy. My parents had a small llasa-terrier mix(we think) who was the cutest thing on 4 feet but would nip at anyone whenever she felt like it! I have a friend who had a small dog who got more visitors standing on chairs  tables—he was a one person dog who would just get you in the ankle right above your shoe. On the other hand, I have a friend who has a pit rescue who stands at his dish crying when one of her 4 cats scoot under him to eat out of his food dish! Aww...how cute! Poor big thang! :)


Chris
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This is an interesting test that I failed miserably, it's scary to think how dogs are wrongly classified as this breed and are wrongly persecuted.-Take the test and see if you can pick out the pit bull out of this page of pictures. It's amazing how many other breeds look similar.

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