RE: Update on Princess Grace

2005-09-10 Thread catatonya
Nina,

I agree. You have to do everything you can, but only you know what she can handle. I hope she continues to recover.

tonyaHideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Nina, I will be sending a big prayer for Princess Grace with all theenergy I have got! I think you made a right decision not to stress herout by taking her to the vet today - and again, you can always take her- but I never underestimate the impact of psychological stress - I evenfainted myself yesterday (literally) from stress -which never happenedto me before..Anyway, I hope that she continues to get better and go back to regularold Grace 100% -Loves and hugsHideyo-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED][mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of NinaSent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 1:46 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Update on Princess GraceGrace and I could use your prayers and good vibrations. She has been feeling poorly the last couple of
 months. Usually when she feels crummyI put her on a round of Dox, and she feels better almost immediately. Not so, this time. I put her on Dox and she didn't improve significantly. I took her off of Dox and started the five day protocol of Virbagen Omega, (injections of feline interferon, 1x daily). Again, she improved slightly, but not significantly. After the 4th day, I stopped the VO and put her back on Dox. She's been getting the Dox again for about a week, she continues to improve, but is still not herself. I've also been giving her oral interferon (chasing the Dox pill with it), transfer factor, Lysine, Co-Q10 etc. Her appetite is off, so I had to stop the supplements to get her to eat. I'm going to try some transdermal Cyproheptadine to see if it helps her eat more. You may think I'm crazy, (so what's new?), but I talked to two differentACs that told me they did not think there were any tumors involved, or
 problems with any of her internal organs, just a feeling of general malaise. I had an appointment with our Internist today, but Grace seemsto have improved more in the last couple of days, so I canceled it. It was a difficult decision to make. Grace suffers greatly from the stressinvolved in a visit to the vet and knowing that there would be several different tests involved to determine what is going on with her... Well, I just decided not to put her through it. There's been too many times that after the trauma and expense, nothing new has been learned. I don't feel completely confident in this decision, but if she doesn't continue to improve I can still bring her in later. I'm waiting for a call from the vet to discuss a different antibiotic in case Grace has finally built a resistance to Doxycycline. For heavens sake, we don't even know why Dox has worked for her! Anyway, if you could take a moment to think of my
 Grace and wish her well, it would be greatly appreciated.Nina

Re: Update on Princess Grace

2005-09-10 Thread Nina
Thank you Tonya.  It helps to have support when I make unorthodox 
decisions!  She's doing a bit better, it's such slow improvement, it's 
hard to tell.  She's still not eating enough and she's getting thin.  
She's thinner than my IBD cat Gypsy, (who btw, is doing fantastic!).  I 
had to assist feed Grace only once though, and a bit of transderm Cypro 
has helped.  Thank you for keeping her in your thoughts.

Nina

P.S,
How's that book coming?




Re: Update on Princess Grace

2005-09-09 Thread Julie Johnson
Dear Nina,

Healing wishes and prayers on the way for Princess Grace, and for you, too. It's sometimes so hard to know what is best to do and we have to weigh so many variables when making these decisions. My husband has always told me (because I have to re-think and re-live every choice I make!) that if you believe what you did was right at the moment in time that you did it, it stands in time as the right choice. So much of what we do for our animals (I think more so than making choices for ourselves) is based on instinct, yet we've been told over and over in many ways that instinct is wrong and we need to concentrate on facts. I think as a culture we've learned to devalue our instincts. Right now, I am wishing I hadn't done the biopsy on Mandy. They needed so many samples and from so deep under her tongue, that the surgery for the biopsy has left her tongue crooked and is making it that much more diffult for her to eat. I knew that if it was an
 oral cancer that treatment options were limited. If it was a granuloma it would have started (most likely) to respond to steriod therapy. So why didn't I just try the steroids first? I just have to focus on having done what I thought was best at the time I made the decision.

I know that Grace could not be in better, move loving hands.

Love, JulieNina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Grace and I could use your prayers and good vibrations. She has been feeling poorly the last couple of months. Usually when she feels crummy I put her on a round of Dox, and she feels better almost immediately. Not so, this time. I put her on Dox and she didn't improve significantly. I took her off of Dox and started the five day protocol of Virbagen Omega, (injections of feline interferon, 1x daily). Again, she improved slightly, but not significantly. After the 4th day, I stopped the VO and put her back on Dox. She's been getting the Dox again for about a week, she continues to improve, but is still not herself. I've also been giving her oral interferon (chasing the Dox pill with it), transfer factor, Lysine, Co-Q10 etc. Her appetite is off, so I had to stop the supplements to get her to eat. I'm going to try some transdermal
 Cyproheptadine to see if it helps her eat more. You may think I'm crazy, (so what's new?), but I talked to two different ACs that told me they did not think there were any tumors involved, or problems with any of her internal organs, just a feeling of general malaise. I had an appointment with our Internist today, but Grace seems to have improved more in the last couple of days, so I canceled it. It was a difficult decision to make. Grace suffers greatly from the stress involved in a visit to the vet and knowing that there would be several different tests involved to determine what is going on with her... Well, I just decided not to put her through it. There's been too many times that after the trauma and expense, nothing new has been learned. I don't feel completely confident in this decision, but if she doesn't continue to improve I can still bring her in later. I'm waiting for a call from the vet to discuss a different
 antibiotic in case Grace has finally built a resistance to Doxycycline. For heavens sake, we don't even know why Dox has worked for her! Anyway, if you could take a moment to think of my Grace and wish her well, it would be greatly appreciated.Nina"I hold that, the more helpless a creature, the more entitled it is to protection by man from the cruelty of man. " "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated." Mohandas Gandhi (1869-1948)Paws Come WITH Claws!!!If you're thinking about de-clawing your cat, you need to re-think your decision to acquire a pet.
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Re: Update on Princess Grace

2005-09-09 Thread Nina
Thank you Julie for your wise and kind words.  Your's and your husband's 
logic about decision making is impeccable.  Of course, I have been 
second guessing myself about not taking Grace in to the vet.  I think 
she's slowly improving, but it's hard to tell. 

As far as doing the biopsy on Mandy...  In hindsight it appears to you 
that you should have just tried steroids first, and maybe that would 
have been the way to go.  But what if you had tried the steroids, seen 
no improvement, and then had to do further exploratories anyway?  We 
just never know.  I spoke with Hideyo after she lost her sweet George.  
She was upset at herself for having had to crate him the last days of 
his life, (in order to administer meds).  But what if she hadn't?  She 
would have thought that he passed because she wasn't able to give him 
his meds!  When we take on the responsibility of an animal we are put in 
the position of having to imagine that we have control over these 
situations.  How else could we make any choices at all?  Ultimately, we 
know that we don't have the control we think we do.  All we can do is 
follow our best instincts, pray for guidance, do our best to not add to 
the suffering of our loved ones and not add to our burdens by beating 
ourselves up over the decisions we are forced to make.

Much love to you and yours my dear,
Nina

Julie Johnson wrote:


Dear Nina,
 
Healing wishes and prayers on the way for Princess Grace, and for you, 
too.  It's sometimes so hard to know what is best to do and we have to 
weigh so many variables when making these decisions.  My husband has 
always told me (because I have to re-think and re-live every choice I 
make!) that if you believe what you did was right at the moment in 
time that you did it, it stands in time as the right choice.  So much 
of what we do for our animals (I think more so than making choices for 
ourselves) is based on instinct, yet we've been told over and over in 
many ways that instinct is wrong and we need to concentrate on facts.  
I think as a culture we've learned to devalue our instincts.  Right 
now, I am wishing I hadn't done the biopsy on Mandy.  They needed so 
many samples and from so deep under her tongue, that the surgery for 
the biopsy has left her tongue crooked and is making it that much more 
diffult for her to eat.  I knew that if it was an oral cancer that 
treatment options were limited.  If it was a granuloma it would have 
started (most likely) to respond to steriod therapy.  So why didn't I 
just try the steroids first?  I just have to focus on having done what 
I thought was best at the time I made the decision.  
 
I know that Grace could not be in better, move loving hands.
 
Love, Julie


*/Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote:

Grace and I could use your prayers and good vibrations. She has been
feeling poorly the last couple of months. Usually when she feels
crummy
I put her on a round of Dox, and she feels better almost immediately.
Not so, this time. I put her on Dox and she didn't improve
significantly. I took her off of Dox and started the five day
protocol
of Virbagen Omega, (injections of feline interferon, 1x daily).
Again,
she improved slightly, but not significantly. After the 4th day, I
stopped the VO and put her back on Dox. She's been getting the Dox
again for about a week, she continues to improve, but is still not
herself. I've also been giving her oral interferon (chasing the Dox
pill with it), transfer factor, Lysine, Co-Q10 etc. Her appetite is
off, so I had to stop the supplements to get her to eat. I'm going to
try some transdermal Cyproheptadine to see if it helps her eat more.
You may think I'm crazy, (so what's new?), but I talked to two
different
ACs that told me they did not think there were any tumors
involved, or
problems with any of her internal organs, just a feeling of general
malaise. I had an appointment with our Internist today, but Grace
seems
to have improved more in the last couple of days, so I canceled
it. It
was a difficult decision to make. Grace suffers greatly from the
stress
involved in a visit to the vet and knowing that there would be
several
different tests involved to determine what is going on with her...
Well, I just decided not to put her through it. There's been too many
times that after the trauma and expense, nothing new has been
learned.
I don't feel completely confident in this decision, but if she
doesn't
continue to improve I can still bring her in later. I'm waiting for a
call from the vet to discuss a different antibiotic in case Grace has
finally built a resistance to Doxycycline. For heavens sake, we don't
even know why Dox has worked for her! Anyway, if you could take a
moment to think of my Grace and wish her well, it would be greatly
appreciated.
Nina






Re: Update on Princess Grace

2005-09-09 Thread Julie Johnson
Dear Nina,

I am hoping and praying that Grace is improving. Next time I am definately coming back as the kitty, not the caretaker!

I am literally sprouting white hairs! They aren'ttoo noticeable because I'm blonde, but I see them in the harsh light of day. And I am not amused.

Love and hugs to you and Grace, JulieNina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thank you Julie for your wise and kind words. Your's and your husband's logic about decision making is impeccable. Of course, I have been second guessing myself about not taking Grace in to the vet. I think she's slowly improving, but it's hard to tell. As far as doing the biopsy on Mandy... In hindsight it appears to you that you should have just tried steroids first, and maybe that would have been the way to go. But what if you had tried the steroids, seen no improvement, and then had to do further exploratories anyway? We just never know. I spoke with Hideyo after she lost her sweet George. She was upset at herself for having had to crate him the last days of his life, (in order to administer meds). But what if she hadn't? She would have thought that he passed because she wasn't able to give him his meds! When we take on the
 responsibility of an animal we are put in the position of having to imagine that we have control over these situations. How else could we make any choices at all? Ultimately, we know that we don't have the control we think we do. All we can do is follow our best instincts, pray for guidance, do our best to not add to the suffering of our loved ones and not add to our burdens by beating ourselves up over the decisions we are forced to make.Much love to you and yours my dear,NinaJulie Johnson wrote: Dear Nina,  Healing wishes and prayers on the way for Princess Grace, and for you,  too. It's sometimes so hard to know what is best to do and we have to  weigh so many variables when making these decisions. My husband has  always told me (because I have to re-think and re-live every choice I  make!) that if you believe what you did was right at the moment in  time that you did it,
 it stands in time as the right choice. So much  of what we do for our animals (I think more so than making choices for  ourselves) is based on instinct, yet we've been told over and over in  many ways that instinct is wrong and we need to concentrate on facts.  I think as a culture we've learned to devalue our instincts. Right  now, I am wishing I hadn't done the biopsy on Mandy. They needed so  many samples and from so deep under her tongue, that the surgery for  the biopsy has left her tongue crooked and is making it that much more  diffult for her to eat. I knew that if it was an oral cancer that  treatment options were limited. If it was a granuloma it would have  started (most likely) to respond to steriod therapy. So why didn't I  just try the steroids first? I just have to focus on having done what  I thought was best at the time I made the decision.   I know that
 Grace could not be in better, move loving hands.  Love, Julie */Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>/* wrote: Grace and I could use your prayers and good vibrations. She has been feeling poorly the last couple of months. Usually when she feels crummy I put her on a round of Dox, and she feels better almost immediately. Not so, this time. I put her on Dox and she didn't improve significantly. I took her off of Dox and started the five day protocol of Virbagen Omega, (injections of feline interferon, 1x daily). Again, she improved slightly, but not significantly. After the 4th day, I stopped the VO and put her back on Dox. She's been getting the Dox again for about a week, she continues to improve, but is still not herself. I've also been giving her oral interferon (chasing the Dox pill with it), transfer factor, Lysine, Co-Q10 etc. Her
 appetite is off, so I had to stop the supplements to get her to eat. I'm going to try some transdermal Cyproheptadine to see if it helps her eat more. You may think I'm crazy, (so what's new?), but I talked to two different ACs that told me they did not think there were any tumors involved, or problems with any of her internal organs, just a feeling of general malaise. I had an appointment with our Internist today, but Grace seems to have improved more in the last couple of days, so I canceled it. It was a difficult decision to make. Grace suffers greatly from the stress involved in a visit to the vet and knowing that there would be several different tests involved to determine what is going on with her... Well, I just decided not to put her through it. There's been too many times that after the trauma and expense, nothing new has
 been learned. I don't feel completely confident in this decision, but if she doesn't continue to improve I can still bring her in later. I'm waiting for a call from the vet to discuss a different antibiotic in case Grace has finally built a resistance to Doxycycline. For heavens sake, we don't even know why Dox has worked for her! Anyway, if you could 

Re: Update on Princess Grace

2005-09-08 Thread Kerry Roach
Hi Nina,
I was sorry to hear that Grace hasn't been feeling so good lately...I do hope she is doing better now. It could just be the thoughts of her having a long and healthy life...It does seem to help things when they don't know we are stressed about them feeling so rotten..and giving off those more positive thoughts and things I believe really work.. 
You both are in our thoughts and prayers.
Kerry and Bandy
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RE: Update on Princess Grace

2005-09-07 Thread Doljan, Joan
Nina,

Sending healing vibes from us to the Princess.  May she live long and
prosper!

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nina
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 3:46 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Update on Princess Grace


Grace and I could use your prayers and good vibrations.  She has been 
feeling poorly the last couple of months.  Usually when she feels crummy 
I put her on a round of Dox, and she feels better almost immediately.  
Not so, this time.  I put her on Dox and she didn't improve 
significantly.  I took her off of Dox and started the five day protocol 
of Virbagen Omega, (injections of feline interferon, 1x daily).  Again, 
she improved slightly, but not significantly.  After the 4th day, I 
stopped the VO and put her back on Dox.  She's been getting the Dox 
again for about a week, she continues to improve, but is still not 
herself.  I've also been giving her oral interferon (chasing the Dox 
pill with it), transfer factor, Lysine, Co-Q10 etc.  Her appetite is 
off, so I had to stop the supplements to get her to eat.  I'm going to 
try some transdermal Cyproheptadine to see if it helps her eat more.  
You may think I'm crazy, (so what's new?), but I talked to two different 
ACs that told me they did not think there were any tumors involved, or 
problems with any of her internal organs, just a feeling of general 
malaise.  I had an appointment with our Internist today, but Grace seems 
to have improved more in the last couple of days, so I canceled it.  It 
was a difficult decision to make.  Grace suffers greatly from the stress 
involved in a visit to the vet and knowing that there would be several 
different tests involved to determine what is going on with her...  
Well, I just decided not to put her through it.  There's been too many 
times that after the trauma and expense, nothing new has been learned.  
I don't feel completely confident in this decision, but if she doesn't 
continue to improve I can still bring her in later.  I'm waiting for a 
call from the vet to discuss a different antibiotic in case Grace has 
finally built a resistance to Doxycycline.  For heavens sake, we don't 
even know why Dox has worked for her!  Anyway, if you could take a 
moment to think of my Grace and wish her well, it would be greatly 
appreciated.
Nina




Re: Update on Princess Grace

2005-09-07 Thread Terri Brown




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  - Original Message - 
  From: Doljan, Joan 
  To: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org' 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 3:45 
  PM
  Subject: RE: Update on Princess 
  Grace
  Nina,Sending healing vibes from us to the 
  Princess. May she live long andprosper!-Original 
  Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED][mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  On Behalf Of NinaSent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 3:46 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: 
  Update on Princess GraceGrace and I could use your prayers and 
  good vibrations. She has been feeling poorly the last couple of 
  months. Usually when she feels crummy I put her on a round of Dox, 
  and she feels better almost immediately. Not so, this time. I 
  put her on Dox and she didn't improve significantly. I took her off 
  of Dox and started the five day protocol of Virbagen Omega, (injections of 
  feline interferon, 1x daily). Again, she improved slightly, but not 
  significantly. After the 4th day, I stopped the VO and put her back 
  on Dox. She's been getting the Dox again for about a week, she 
  continues to improve, but is still not herself. I've also been 
  giving her oral interferon (chasing the Dox pill with it), transfer 
  factor, Lysine, Co-Q10 etc. Her appetite is off, so I had to stop 
  the supplements to get her to eat. I'm going to try some transdermal 
  Cyproheptadine to see if it helps her eat more. You may think I'm 
  crazy, (so what's new?), but I talked to two different ACs that told me 
  they did not think there were any tumors involved, or problems with any of 
  her internal organs, just a feeling of general malaise. I had an 
  appointment with our Internist today, but Grace seems to have improved 
  more in the last couple of days, so I canceled it. It was a 
  difficult decision to make. Grace suffers greatly from the stress 
  involved in a visit to the vet and knowing that there would be several 
  different tests involved to determine what is going on with her... 
  Well, I just decided not to put her through it. There's been too 
  many times that after the trauma and expense, nothing new has been 
  learned. I don't feel completely confident in this decision, but if 
  she doesn't continue to improve I can still bring her in later. I'm 
  waiting for a call from the vet to discuss a different antibiotic in case 
  Grace has finally built a resistance to Doxycycline. For heavens 
  sake, we don't even know why Dox has worked for her! Anyway, if you 
  could take a moment to think of my Grace and wish her well, it would be 
  greatly appreciated.Nina


RE: Update on Princess Grace

2005-09-07 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
Dear Nina
Sending lots of positive vibes and healing thoughts for little Grace. I
pray she feels herself again soon. (I TOTALLY understand your not
wanting to put her through the h*ll of a vet visit.)
I wonder if the vet will put her on a different antibiotic -- if so,
I'll pray it's the answer. 
hugs to you and Grace, Kerry
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nina
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 2:46 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Update on Princess Grace


Grace and I could use your prayers and good vibrations.  She has been 
feeling poorly the last couple of months.  Usually when she feels crummy

I put her on a round of Dox, and she feels better almost immediately.  
Not so, this time.  I put her on Dox and she didn't improve 
significantly.  I took her off of Dox and started the five day protocol 
of Virbagen Omega, (injections of feline interferon, 1x daily).  Again, 
she improved slightly, but not significantly.  After the 4th day, I 
stopped the VO and put her back on Dox.  She's been getting the Dox 
again for about a week, she continues to improve, but is still not 
herself.  I've also been giving her oral interferon (chasing the Dox 
pill with it), transfer factor, Lysine, Co-Q10 etc.  Her appetite is 
off, so I had to stop the supplements to get her to eat.  I'm going to 
try some transdermal Cyproheptadine to see if it helps her eat more.  
You may think I'm crazy, (so what's new?), but I talked to two different

ACs that told me they did not think there were any tumors involved, or 
problems with any of her internal organs, just a feeling of general 
malaise.  I had an appointment with our Internist today, but Grace seems

to have improved more in the last couple of days, so I canceled it.  It 
was a difficult decision to make.  Grace suffers greatly from the stress

involved in a visit to the vet and knowing that there would be several 
different tests involved to determine what is going on with her...  
Well, I just decided not to put her through it.  There's been too many 
times that after the trauma and expense, nothing new has been learned.  
I don't feel completely confident in this decision, but if she doesn't 
continue to improve I can still bring her in later.  I'm waiting for a 
call from the vet to discuss a different antibiotic in case Grace has 
finally built a resistance to Doxycycline.  For heavens sake, we don't 
even know why Dox has worked for her!  Anyway, if you could take a 
moment to think of my Grace and wish her well, it would be greatly 
appreciated.
Nina


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Re: Update on Princess Grace

2005-09-07 Thread Susan Loesch
You've got it - from me and from my feleuk+ Daisy who is sitting in my lap. Lots of prayers and good vibrations for sweet Grace and you, too.Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Grace and I could use your prayers and good vibrations. She has been feeling poorly the last couple of months. Usually when she feels crummy I put her on a round of Dox, and she feels better almost immediately. Not so, this time. I put her on Dox and she didn't improve significantly. I took her off of Dox and started the five day protocol of Virbagen Omega, (injections of feline interferon, 1x daily). Again, she improved slightly, but not significantly. After the 4th day, I stopped the VO and put her back on Dox. She's been getting the Dox again for about a week, she continues to improve, but is still not herself. I've also been giving her oral interferon (chasing the Dox pill with it), transfer factor, Lysine, Co-Q10 etc. Her appetite is off, so I had to stop the supplements to get her to eat. I'm going to try some transdermal
 Cyproheptadine to see if it helps her eat more. You may think I'm crazy, (so what's new?), but I talked to two different ACs that told me they did not think there were any tumors involved, or problems with any of her internal organs, just a feeling of general malaise. I had an appointment with our Internist today, but Grace seems to have improved more in the last couple of days, so I canceled it. It was a difficult decision to make. Grace suffers greatly from the stress involved in a visit to the vet and knowing that there would be several different tests involved to determine what is going on with her... Well, I just decided not to put her through it. There's been too many times that after the trauma and expense, nothing new has been learned. I don't feel completely confident in this decision, but if she doesn't continue to improve I can still bring her in later. I'm waiting for a call from the vet to discuss a different
 antibiotic in case Grace has finally built a resistance to Doxycycline. For heavens sake, we don't even know why Dox has worked for her! Anyway, if you could take a moment to think of my Grace and wish her well, it would be greatly appreciated.Nina

Re: Update on Princess Grace

2005-09-07 Thread Nina
Thank you so much Joan.  Live long and prosper is just the message 
I've been sending her lately.  The AC I spoke with yesterday gave me a 
real ah ha! kind of moment.  Btw, it's the same AC that Hideyo spoke 
to about her sweet Georgie.  Anyway, Jasmine was talking about how our 
fur kids pick up on our emotions, expectations, etc., (which I already 
believe in wholeheartedly), when it occurred to me, that I've been 
thinking about Grace as being doomed, even more so than the other 
kittens from her litter.  Well, she's already outlived 3 of them, so why 
was I persisting in my, while good intentioned concern, still negative 
projections?  I started telling her, you know Grace, you're a strong, 
powerful spirit and we have free will!  I've started to concentrate on 
her living a long and healthy life, instead of being mired in fear of 
her not.  I don't know if that's had anything to do with her improvement 
over the last couple of days, but I do know that she listens to her mother!

Nina

Doljan, Joan wrote:


Nina,

Sending healing vibes from us to the Princess.  May she live long and
prosper!

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nina
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 3:46 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Update on Princess Grace


Grace and I could use your prayers and good vibrations.  She has been 
feeling poorly the last couple of months.  Usually when she feels crummy 
I put her on a round of Dox, and she feels better almost immediately.  
Not so, this time.  I put her on Dox and she didn't improve 
significantly.  I took her off of Dox and started the five day protocol 
of Virbagen Omega, (injections of feline interferon, 1x daily).  Again, 
she improved slightly, but not significantly.  After the 4th day, I 
stopped the VO and put her back on Dox.  She's been getting the Dox 
again for about a week, she continues to improve, but is still not 
herself.  I've also been giving her oral interferon (chasing the Dox 
pill with it), transfer factor, Lysine, Co-Q10 etc.  Her appetite is 
off, so I had to stop the supplements to get her to eat.  I'm going to 
try some transdermal Cyproheptadine to see if it helps her eat more.  
You may think I'm crazy, (so what's new?), but I talked to two different 
ACs that told me they did not think there were any tumors involved, or 
problems with any of her internal organs, just a feeling of general 
malaise.  I had an appointment with our Internist today, but Grace seems 
to have improved more in the last couple of days, so I canceled it.  It 
was a difficult decision to make.  Grace suffers greatly from the stress 
involved in a visit to the vet and knowing that there would be several 
different tests involved to determine what is going on with her...  
Well, I just decided not to put her through it.  There's been too many 
times that after the trauma and expense, nothing new has been learned.  
I don't feel completely confident in this decision, but if she doesn't 
continue to improve I can still bring her in later.  I'm waiting for a 
call from the vet to discuss a different antibiotic in case Grace has 
finally built a resistance to Doxycycline.  For heavens sake, we don't 
even know why Dox has worked for her!  Anyway, if you could take a 
moment to think of my Grace and wish her well, it would be greatly 
appreciated.

Nina




 






Re: Update on Princess Grace

2005-09-07 Thread Nina
Thank you everyone for keeping Grace in your thoughts.  I spoke with my 
vet's office and they said that because I started the VO so soon after 
stopping the Dox, and then started the Dox the next day after stopping 
the VO, there would be no way to know what was helping Grace, even 
though I didn't give them simultaneously.  Since Grace is NOT part of a 
scientific experiment (!), I don't really care.  It would be nice to 
know if the darn VO is worth all the trouble and expense though!  I 
haven't heard back from the vet about trying a different antibiotic yet.

Nina

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- Original Message -
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Nina,

Sending healing vibes from us to the Princess.  May she live long and
prosper!






Re: Update on Princess Grace

2005-09-07 Thread Lernermichelle


Nina, I think at this point I would try Immuno-regulin. The woman who runs the shelter my cats come from uses it frequently and says it helps about half the time, and that she has never noticed any side effects. While Ginger had side effects, they were only about an hour long and in the end I am glad I gave it to her because she improved immediately afterwards. Side effects are supposed to be pretty rare.
Michelle


Re: Update on Princess Grace

2005-09-07 Thread Nina

I sent info to my vet about it, I'm waiting to hear what she has to say.
Nina

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Nina, I think at this point I would try Immuno-regulin. The woman who 
runs the shelter my cats come from uses it frequently and says it 
helps about half the time, and that she has never noticed any side 
effects. While Ginger had side effects, they were only about an hour 
long and in the end I am glad I gave it to her because she improved 
immediately afterwards. Side effects are supposed to be pretty rare.

Michelle






Re: Update on Princess Grace

2005-09-07 Thread felv



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