Re: cat question (from [EMAIL PROTECTED])

2005-12-20 Thread Gloria Lane
I'd agree with spaying the FELV kitty, and that's what I've done.  I  
took in a little 8 month old FELV kitty who was pregnant, and my  
choice was to have her spayed.  She came thru it with flying colors.


I give my FELV kitties daily interferon, to boost the immune system.

Gloria


On Dec 15, 2005, at 11:51 AM, wendy wrote:


Janet,

I have to agree with everything that Nina said.
Having the cat spayed would probably be the humane
thing to do.  My cat Cricket was born with Feline
Leukemia; his mother had it.  I would like to urge you
to consider keeping this cat if you are at all
attached to it, and caring for it yourself.  FELV+
positive is not necessarily a death sentence; many
cats throw off the virus after they've been exposed,
expecially those with good health care and a lot of
love.  FELV+ cats are hard to place, and many times,
are euthanised because a lot of vets recommend it.
But we do not agree with this policy.  These kitties
deserve a happy life being loved just as much as a cat
that isn't FELV+.  Cricket lived 4 and a half years,
and probably would have lived longer had he not been
stressed out by a house full of Hurricane Rita
evacuees for a week, when the virus kicked in and he
became anemic.  Because he was born FELV+, his life
expectancy was a lot less than he actually lived.
Many kittens die by 6 months because their immune
systems are so weak, and even more by two years old.
No one can make this decision for you, but learn a
little more before you make the decision and I wish
you luck.  Let us know what you decide.  I'll keep you
in my prayers.

:)
Wendy

--- Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Janet,
As Terri and Tonya have already mentioned, many of
us mix adult negs
that have been vaccinated with pos.  It's a
judgement call and of course
no matter what our success rate in doing this is,
there's no safer
protection for your elderly cat than to not mix them
together.  That's
what most vets will tell you.  Being that your
current kitty is older, I
might not mix them together either.  That said, if I
were in this
situation, I'd figure God sent her to me for a
reason and I'd personally
dive in with both feet and do whatever I could to
save her and her kittens.

I am all too familiar with the heartache involved
with pos kittens.  My
experience with felv came when my husband and I
found a box of kittens
that were just 2.5 weeks old.  Because they were so
young, I assume the
mother succumbed to felv from the stress of having
them and the people
who abandoned them didn't know how to care for them.
 Why else would
they take them from their mother at that age?  We
lost 2 of our babies
when they were about 6 mos old and two more before
their 2nd birthday.
The other two are doing fine and are reaching 2.5
yrs.  Their lives were
filled with love and concern and I'm not a bit sorry
that I made the
commitment to try and save them.

Janet, you have some tough decisions ahead of you.
You don't know me,
so you might think I'm a monster for even bringing
this up, but given
what you've said in your post...  It's going to be
hard enough to place
the mother, if she's healthy.  I can't say what I
would do in your
place.  I'm not you and I have no idea what you have
to contend with.
If someone steps up very quickly to adopt her,
knowing she's pregnant,
well that's a different story altogether.  If you
just found out she's
pregnant, I'm supposing she's not too far along.
Under the
circumstances you describe, if you have her spayed,
the kittens would be
aborted at the same time and praying that she
remains asymptomatic after
the stress of the operation, you might have a chance
of placing her.  I
couldn't bear to think about what might be in store
for those babies if
they lose their mother, and don't have a human
willing to step in and
care for them.  My 2 cents on the harshness of
reality.  Now, what I'm
praying for is that you've fallen in love with this
little stray and
you'll want to adopt her yourself.  If so, there are
many wonderful,
knowledgeable people on this list who will support
you no matter where
that decision takes you.  I'm also praying that
someone, if not you,
will hear this little girl's story, take her in and
give her the kind of
life every kitty deserves.
Nina

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hello,
Two weeks ago I took a cat in that had been

abandoned.  Today, I took

her to the vet and found out she was tested as

positive for feline

leukemia.  I also found out today that she is

pregnant.


I have a 15 year old cat that does not have

leukemia.  Thus, I cannot

keep this new cat but I need to find a shelter

that can take her or a

family that this will be their only help.

Please let me know if you have any ideas.  I live

in Florida.


Thank you in advance,
Janet






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Re: cat question

2005-12-15 Thread wendy
Janet,

I have to agree with everything that Nina said. 
Having the cat spayed would probably be the humane
thing to do.  My cat Cricket was born with Feline
Leukemia; his mother had it.  I would like to urge you
to consider keeping this cat if you are at all
attached to it, and caring for it yourself.  FELV+
positive is not necessarily a death sentence; many
cats throw off the virus after they've been exposed,
expecially those with good health care and a lot of
love.  FELV+ cats are hard to place, and many times,
are euthanised because a lot of vets recommend it. 
But we do not agree with this policy.  These kitties
deserve a happy life being loved just as much as a cat
that isn't FELV+.  Cricket lived 4 and a half years,
and probably would have lived longer had he not been
stressed out by a house full of Hurricane Rita
evacuees for a week, when the virus kicked in and he
became anemic.  Because he was born FELV+, his life
expectancy was a lot less than he actually lived. 
Many kittens die by 6 months because their immune
systems are so weak, and even more by two years old. 
No one can make this decision for you, but learn a
little more before you make the decision and I wish
you luck.  Let us know what you decide.  I'll keep you
in my prayers.

:)
Wendy

--- Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Janet,
 As Terri and Tonya have already mentioned, many of
 us mix adult negs 
 that have been vaccinated with pos.  It's a
 judgement call and of course 
 no matter what our success rate in doing this is,
 there's no safer 
 protection for your elderly cat than to not mix them
 together.  That's 
 what most vets will tell you.  Being that your
 current kitty is older, I 
 might not mix them together either.  That said, if I
 were in this 
 situation, I'd figure God sent her to me for a
 reason and I'd personally 
 dive in with both feet and do whatever I could to
 save her and her kittens.
 
 I am all too familiar with the heartache involved
 with pos kittens.  My 
 experience with felv came when my husband and I
 found a box of kittens 
 that were just 2.5 weeks old.  Because they were so
 young, I assume the 
 mother succumbed to felv from the stress of having
 them and the people 
 who abandoned them didn't know how to care for them.
  Why else would 
 they take them from their mother at that age?  We
 lost 2 of our babies 
 when they were about 6 mos old and two more before
 their 2nd birthday.  
 The other two are doing fine and are reaching 2.5
 yrs.  Their lives were 
 filled with love and concern and I'm not a bit sorry
 that I made the 
 commitment to try and save them. 
 
 Janet, you have some tough decisions ahead of you. 
 You don't know me, 
 so you might think I'm a monster for even bringing
 this up, but given 
 what you've said in your post...  It's going to be
 hard enough to place 
 the mother, if she's healthy.  I can't say what I
 would do in your 
 place.  I'm not you and I have no idea what you have
 to contend with.  
 If someone steps up very quickly to adopt her,
 knowing she's pregnant, 
 well that's a different story altogether.  If you
 just found out she's 
 pregnant, I'm supposing she's not too far along. 
 Under the 
 circumstances you describe, if you have her spayed,
 the kittens would be 
 aborted at the same time and praying that she
 remains asymptomatic after 
 the stress of the operation, you might have a chance
 of placing her.  I 
 couldn't bear to think about what might be in store
 for those babies if 
 they lose their mother, and don't have a human
 willing to step in and 
 care for them.  My 2 cents on the harshness of
 reality.  Now, what I'm 
 praying for is that you've fallen in love with this
 little stray and 
 you'll want to adopt her yourself.  If so, there are
 many wonderful, 
 knowledgeable people on this list who will support
 you no matter where 
 that decision takes you.  I'm also praying that
 someone, if not you, 
 will hear this little girl's story, take her in and
 give her the kind of 
 life every kitty deserves.
 Nina
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hello,
  Two weeks ago I took a cat in that had been
 abandoned.  Today, I took 
  her to the vet and found out she was tested as
 positive for feline 
  leukemia.  I also found out today that she is
 pregnant.
   
  I have a 15 year old cat that does not have
 leukemia.  Thus, I cannot 
  keep this new cat but I need to find a shelter
 that can take her or a 
  family that this will be their only help.
   
  Please let me know if you have any ideas.  I live
 in Florida.
   
  Thank you in advance,
  Janet
 
 


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Re: cat question

2005-12-15 Thread janine paton
Hi Janet, 

That simple act of rescue can certainly become
complicated.

I joined this list months ago after trapping a litter
of feral positive kittens.  I was looking for sound
advice, which I got, and I should really sign off the
list now since I can't keep up with the volume of
emails but I hang on because this is the most
sensitive, caring, THINKING list of people who love
cats, so you couldn't have landed in a better place.  

That said, having seen too many hard-luck moms
actually look grateful to have someone take over the
care of yet another litter, I spay pregnant females in
precarious positions for the mother's sake and the
fact that there are already so many healthy, homeless
kittens (and cats) out there already.  Not a perfect
answer, but one that makes sense to me, for now. 

Janine

 

--- wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Janet,
 
 I have to agree with everything that Nina said. 
 Having the cat spayed would probably be the humane
 thing to do.  My cat Cricket was born with Feline
 Leukemia; his mother had it.  I would like to urge
 you
 to consider keeping this cat if you are at all
 attached to it, and caring for it yourself.  FELV+
 positive is not necessarily a death sentence; many
 cats throw off the virus after they've been exposed,
 expecially those with good health care and a lot of
 love.  FELV+ cats are hard to place, and many times,
 are euthanised because a lot of vets recommend it. 
 But we do not agree with this policy.  These kitties
 deserve a happy life being loved just as much as a
 cat
 that isn't FELV+.  Cricket lived 4 and a half years,
 and probably would have lived longer had he not been
 stressed out by a house full of Hurricane Rita
 evacuees for a week, when the virus kicked in and he
 became anemic.  Because he was born FELV+, his life
 expectancy was a lot less than he actually lived. 
 Many kittens die by 6 months because their immune
 systems are so weak, and even more by two years old.
 
 No one can make this decision for you, but learn a
 little more before you make the decision and I wish
 you luck.  Let us know what you decide.  I'll keep
 you
 in my prayers.
 
 :)
 Wendy
 
 --- Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Janet,
  As Terri and Tonya have already mentioned, many of
  us mix adult negs 
  that have been vaccinated with pos.  It's a
  judgement call and of course 
  no matter what our success rate in doing this is,
  there's no safer 
  protection for your elderly cat than to not mix
 them
  together.  That's 
  what most vets will tell you.  Being that your
  current kitty is older, I 
  might not mix them together either.  That said, if
 I
  were in this 
  situation, I'd figure God sent her to me for a
  reason and I'd personally 
  dive in with both feet and do whatever I could to
  save her and her kittens.
  
  I am all too familiar with the heartache involved
  with pos kittens.  My 
  experience with felv came when my husband and I
  found a box of kittens 
  that were just 2.5 weeks old.  Because they were
 so
  young, I assume the 
  mother succumbed to felv from the stress of having
  them and the people 
  who abandoned them didn't know how to care for
 them.
   Why else would 
  they take them from their mother at that age?  We
  lost 2 of our babies 
  when they were about 6 mos old and two more before
  their 2nd birthday.  
  The other two are doing fine and are reaching 2.5
  yrs.  Their lives were 
  filled with love and concern and I'm not a bit
 sorry
  that I made the 
  commitment to try and save them. 
  
  Janet, you have some tough decisions ahead of you.
 
  You don't know me, 
  so you might think I'm a monster for even bringing
  this up, but given 
  what you've said in your post...  It's going to be
  hard enough to place 
  the mother, if she's healthy.  I can't say what I
  would do in your 
  place.  I'm not you and I have no idea what you
 have
  to contend with.  
  If someone steps up very quickly to adopt her,
  knowing she's pregnant, 
  well that's a different story altogether.  If you
  just found out she's 
  pregnant, I'm supposing she's not too far along. 
  Under the 
  circumstances you describe, if you have her
 spayed,
  the kittens would be 
  aborted at the same time and praying that she
  remains asymptomatic after 
  the stress of the operation, you might have a
 chance
  of placing her.  I 
  couldn't bear to think about what might be in
 store
  for those babies if 
  they lose their mother, and don't have a human
  willing to step in and 
  care for them.  My 2 cents on the harshness of
  reality.  Now, what I'm 
  praying for is that you've fallen in love with
 this
  little stray and 
  you'll want to adopt her yourself.  If so, there
 are
  many wonderful, 
  knowledgeable people on this list who will support
  you no matter where 
  that decision takes you.  I'm also praying that
  someone, if not you, 
  will hear this little girl's story, take her in
 and
  give her the kind of 
  life every 

RE: cat question

2005-12-15 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto
I am sorry that the kitty has feLK --- I haven't read all the postings
what other people said.. but it's going to be very hard to find a home
for the kitty for the same reason that you think you cannot keep her.

I really hope that you will find a way to be able to -- there is a
reason why you found her or she found you.  I have two Felk kitties and
have dozens of negative (but they have some other things) --- My second
FeLK baby, Tsubomi, I thought I was not going to be able to keep her
because of different reasons, but found a way and still have her and am
going to keep her, I think.  I just found that she is also pregnant, so
I am going to have her spayed.. fortunately, though she is positive and
she is very asymptomatic.. my felk kitties are not mixed with negatives
just because I have so many kitties, but I know that lots of people on
the list do.

Even if you have to separate the kitty from the other kitty in one room,
I really sincerely hope that you will find a way to be her mom as she
really needs you. 

Love,

Hideyo

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 10:52 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: cat question

Janet,

I have to agree with everything that Nina said. 
Having the cat spayed would probably be the humane
thing to do.  My cat Cricket was born with Feline
Leukemia; his mother had it.  I would like to urge you
to consider keeping this cat if you are at all
attached to it, and caring for it yourself.  FELV+
positive is not necessarily a death sentence; many
cats throw off the virus after they've been exposed,
expecially those with good health care and a lot of
love.  FELV+ cats are hard to place, and many times,
are euthanised because a lot of vets recommend it. 
But we do not agree with this policy.  These kitties
deserve a happy life being loved just as much as a cat
that isn't FELV+.  Cricket lived 4 and a half years,
and probably would have lived longer had he not been
stressed out by a house full of Hurricane Rita
evacuees for a week, when the virus kicked in and he
became anemic.  Because he was born FELV+, his life
expectancy was a lot less than he actually lived. 
Many kittens die by 6 months because their immune
systems are so weak, and even more by two years old. 
No one can make this decision for you, but learn a
little more before you make the decision and I wish
you luck.  Let us know what you decide.  I'll keep you
in my prayers.

:)
Wendy

--- Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Janet,
 As Terri and Tonya have already mentioned, many of
 us mix adult negs 
 that have been vaccinated with pos.  It's a
 judgement call and of course 
 no matter what our success rate in doing this is,
 there's no safer 
 protection for your elderly cat than to not mix them
 together.  That's 
 what most vets will tell you.  Being that your
 current kitty is older, I 
 might not mix them together either.  That said, if I
 were in this 
 situation, I'd figure God sent her to me for a
 reason and I'd personally 
 dive in with both feet and do whatever I could to
 save her and her kittens.
 
 I am all too familiar with the heartache involved
 with pos kittens.  My 
 experience with felv came when my husband and I
 found a box of kittens 
 that were just 2.5 weeks old.  Because they were so
 young, I assume the 
 mother succumbed to felv from the stress of having
 them and the people 
 who abandoned them didn't know how to care for them.
  Why else would 
 they take them from their mother at that age?  We
 lost 2 of our babies 
 when they were about 6 mos old and two more before
 their 2nd birthday.  
 The other two are doing fine and are reaching 2.5
 yrs.  Their lives were 
 filled with love and concern and I'm not a bit sorry
 that I made the 
 commitment to try and save them. 
 
 Janet, you have some tough decisions ahead of you. 
 You don't know me, 
 so you might think I'm a monster for even bringing
 this up, but given 
 what you've said in your post...  It's going to be
 hard enough to place 
 the mother, if she's healthy.  I can't say what I
 would do in your 
 place.  I'm not you and I have no idea what you have
 to contend with.  
 If someone steps up very quickly to adopt her,
 knowing she's pregnant, 
 well that's a different story altogether.  If you
 just found out she's 
 pregnant, I'm supposing she's not too far along. 
 Under the 
 circumstances you describe, if you have her spayed,
 the kittens would be 
 aborted at the same time and praying that she
 remains asymptomatic after 
 the stress of the operation, you might have a chance
 of placing her.  I 
 couldn't bear to think about what might be in store
 for those babies if 
 they lose their mother, and don't have a human
 willing to step in and 
 care for them.  My 2 cents on the harshness of
 reality.  Now, what I'm 
 praying for is that you've fallen in love with this
 little stray and 
 you'll want to adopt her yourself

Re: cat question

2005-12-14 Thread Terri Brown




Hi,

If your 15 year old negative is vaccinated, it's unlikely that he will get 
FeLV, especially if you can keep them separate for a while until they get used 
to each other's scents.

I mostly lurk on the list lately, and am FeLV free at the moment, so I will 
let other list members who are more active than I respond with their 
ideas.

My 2 cents -- you may have trouble finding a FeLV positive rescue. I 
would suggest putting flyers up at local veterinarian offices, Petsmart stores 
(and any other business like it). You could also do a search on 
petfinders.org for your area and see what you find.

Hope this helps.

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  - Original Message - 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 5:45 
  PM
  Subject: cat question
  
  Hello, 
  Two weeks ago I took a cat in that had been abandoned. Today, I 
  took her to the vet and found out she was tested as positive for feline 
  leukemia. I also found out today that she is pregnant.
  
  I have a 15 year old cat that does not have leukemia. Thus, I 
  cannot keep this new cat but I need to find a shelter that can take her or a 
  family that this will be their only help.
  
  Please let me know if you have any ideas. I live in Florida.
  
  Thank you in advance, 
  Janet


Re: cat question

2005-12-14 Thread Nina




Janet,
As Terri and Tonya have already mentioned, many of us mix adult negs
that have been vaccinated with pos. It's a judgement call and of
course no matter what our success rate in doing this is, there's no
safer protection for your elderly cat than to not mix them together.
That's what most vets will tell you. Being that your current kitty is
older, I might not mix them together either. That said, if I were in
this situation, I'd figure God sent her to me for a reason and I'd
personally dive in with both feet and do whatever I could to save her
and her kittens.

I am all too familiar with the heartache involved with pos kittens. My
experience with felv came when my husband and I found a box of kittens
that were just 2.5 weeks old. Because they were so young, I assume the
mother succumbed to felv from the stress of having them and the people
who abandoned them didn't know how to care for them. Why else would
they take them from their mother at that age? We lost 2 of our babies
when they were about 6 mos old and two more before their 2nd birthday.
The other two are doing fine and are reaching 2.5 yrs. Their lives
were filled with love and concern and I'm not a bit sorry that I made
the commitment to try and save them. 

Janet, you have some tough decisions ahead of you. You don't know me,
so you might think I'm a monster for even
bringing this up, but given what you've said in your post... It's
going to be hard enough to place the mother, if she's healthy. I can't
say what I would do in your place. I'm not you and I have no idea what
you have to contend with. If someone steps up very quickly to adopt
her, knowing she's pregnant, well that's a different story altogether.
If you just found out she's pregnant, I'm supposing she's not too far
along. Under the circumstances you describe, if you have her spayed,
the kittens would be aborted at the same time and praying that she
remains asymptomatic after the stress of the operation, you might have
a chance of placing her. I couldn't bear to think about what might be
in store for those babies if they lose their mother, and don't have a
human willing to step in and care for them. My 2 cents on the
harshness of reality. Now, what I'm praying for is that you've fallen
in love with this little stray and you'll want to adopt her yourself.
If so, there are many wonderful, knowledgeable people on this list who
will support you no matter where that decision takes you. I'm also
praying that someone, if not you, will hear this little girl's story,
take her in and give her the kind of life every kitty deserves.
Nina

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
  
  
  Hello, 
  Two weeks ago I took a cat in that had been abandoned. Today, I
took her to the vet and found out she was tested as positive for feline
leukemia. I also found out today that she is pregnant.
  
  I have a 15 year old cat that does not have leukemia. Thus, I
cannot keep this new cat but I need to find a shelter that can take her
or a family that this will be their only help.
  
  Please let me know if you have any ideas. I live in Florida.
  
  Thank you in advance, 
  Janet