RE: prednisolone and prednisone

2006-09-11 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto








No, I am saying that my vet prescribed very
conservative amount of prednisone to Naomi so I couldnt tell exactly how to
convert --- I will ask my vet tomorrow morning..











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Prednisone dosages vary, but should not
exceed 2 mg/lb/day, and that only for severe conditions. Lucy is right
now on 12.5 mg/day. She weighs 8 pounds. For severe IBD,
recommended starting dosage is 1-2 mg/lb/day, so Lucy right now is right in the
middle of that dosage (1.5 mg/lb/day). She has been as low as 1.25 mg
every 3 days in the past, but has been having a lot of problems lately and so
is back up to her highest dose.











So are you saying she would get more
prednisolone than the pred she is getting? Are you sure?











Michelle











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Oh good..



The typical dosage for prednisolone is 

Dose: 2-4mg/kg/day given by mouth, sliding
dose every 10-14 days, until optimal dose for that cat is found. 

And I was giving Naomi 1.25 mg (1/4 tables of
5 mg) of predisone and she weighed only 4 lb..so,, according to this
calculation, she would have needed more mg of prednisolone, but I think my vet
was being very conservative  how much of predisone do you give to Lucy now?




















Re: prednisolone and prednisone

2006-09-11 Thread Nina




I had Gypsy on both, I started on Prednisone in pill form and then when
to the injections. The dose of Prednisone that I had Gypsy on was low,
and I can't remember if she had been tapered off of it before we tried
the Prednisolone, (also IM injections). I had also heard it is the
less harsh of the two. Your vet is starting to piss me off.
N

Hideyo Yamamoto wrote:

  
  

  
  
  I used both
for Naomi my vet told
me that you could switch right away with no problem  but my vet did
not
have (because they dont make it or my vet did not have) prednisolone
in
pill form, and she gave injections on her muscle  I can call find out
if
she can get prdnisolone in pill form somhow.. and I will let you know.
  
  
  
  
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September 10, 2006
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  Subject: prednisolone
and
prednisone
  
  
  
  I would
like to switch Lucy from
prednisone to prednisolone, since I have read that the latter is better
for IBD
and is also more easily used by the body and so less harsh on the liver
etc. Someone is willing to give me some prednisolone (my vet does not
use
it for some reason). Does anyone know if I can switch from prednisone
to
prednisolone all at once without problem, and if the dosing is the same?
  
  
  Thanks,
  
  
  Michelle
  
  





Re: prednisolone and prednisone

2006-09-11 Thread Nina




Did you check the archives on the IBD list?  They should have the
answer to that.  I hope by the time I'm writing this that you have the
dosing info figured out.
N

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  Thanks. I am getting the prednisolone in pill form, but wanted
to know if the dosing is the same.. Do you know?
  Michelle
   
  In a message dated 9/10/2006 1:36:49 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  I used both
for Naomi –my vet told me that you could switch right away with no
problem – but my vet did not have (because they don’t make it or my vet
did not have) prednisolone in pill form, and she gave injections on her
muscle – I can call find out if she can get prdnisolone in pill form
somhow.. and I will let you know.
  
   
  





Re: prednisolone and prednisone

2006-09-11 Thread Belinda




 Yes you can, the prednisolone is what the liver turns the prednisone
into, just one less step the body needs to use to process it.

Does anyone
know if I can switch from prednisone
to
prednisolone all at once without problem, and if the dosing is the same?

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Re: prednisolone and prednisone

2006-09-11 Thread Lernermichelle



No, I am not a member anymore and doubt I would be approved as a member at this point after my run-in with the nasty moderator.Maybe I will try to get back on...
Michelle

In a message dated 9/11/2006 10:33:27 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Did you check the archives on the IBD list? They should have the answer to that. I hope by the time I'm writing this that you have the dosing info figured out.N



RE: prednisolone and prednisone

2006-09-10 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto








I used both for Naomi my vet told
me that you could switch right away with no problem  but my vet did not
have (because they dont make it or my vet did not have) prednisolone in
pill form, and she gave injections on her muscle  I can call find out if
she can get prdnisolone in pill form somhow.. and I will let you know.











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Subject: prednisolone and
prednisone







I would like to switch Lucy from
prednisone to prednisolone, since I have read that the latter is better for IBD
and is also more easily used by the body and so less harsh on the liver
etc. Someone is willing to give me some prednisolone (my vet does not use
it for some reason). Does anyone know if I can switch from prednisone to
prednisolone all at once without problem, and if the dosing is the same?





Thanks,





Michelle










Re: prednisolone and prednisone

2006-09-10 Thread Lernermichelle




Thanks. I am getting the prednisolone in pill form, but wanted to know if 
the dosing is the same.. Do you know?
Michelle

In a message dated 9/10/2006 1:36:49 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I used both for Naomi 
  –my vet told me that you could switch right away with no problem – but my vet 
  did not have (because they don’t make it or my vet did not have) prednisolone 
  in pill form, and she gave injections on her muscle – I can call find out if 
  she can get prdnisolone in pill form somhow.. and I will let you 
  know.




RE: prednisolone and prednisone

2006-09-10 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto








Oh good..



The typical dosage for prednisolone is 

Dose: 2-4mg/kg/day given by mouth, sliding
dose every 10-14 days, until optimal dose for that cat is found. 

And I was giving Naomi 1.25 mg (1/4 tables of
5 mg) of predisone and she weighed only 4 lb..so,, according to this
calculation, she would have needed more mg of prednisolone, but I think my vet
was being very conservative  how much of predisone do you give to Lucy
now?



Just as fyi

Prednisolone should never be used in cats with
septic peritonitis or pleurisy 



















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Subject: Re: prednisolone and
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Thanks. I am getting the prednisolone in
pill form, but wanted to know if the dosing is the same.. Do you know?





Michelle











In a message dated 9/10/2006 1:36:49 P.M.
Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:





I used both for Naomi my vet told
me that you could switch right away with no problem  but my vet did not
have (because they dont make it or my vet did not have) prednisolone in
pill form, and she gave injections on her muscle  I can call find out if
she can get prdnisolone in pill form somhow.. and I will let you know.







Prednisolone should never be used
in cats with septic peritonitis or pleurisy, which is why cytology is a very
important part of FIP diagnosis, as there will be many more white blood cells
in the effusion of a cat with sepsis, and a good cytologist will detect the
bacteria or fungi.

Dose: 2-4mg/kg/day given by mouth, sliding dose every
10-14 days, until optimal dose for that cat is found. 



Prednisolone should never be used in cats with septic
peritonitis or pleurisy, which is why cytology is a very important part of FIP
diagnosis, as there will be many more white blood cells in the effusion of a
cat with sepsis, and a good cytologist will detect the bacteria or fungi.

Dose: 2-4mg/kg/day given by mouth, sliding dose every
10-14 days, until optimal dose for that cat is found. 














Re: prednisolone and prednisone

2006-09-10 Thread Lernermichelle




Prednisone dosages vary, but should not exceed 2 mg/lb/day, and that only 
for severe conditions. Lucy is right now on 12.5 mg/day. She weighs 
8 pounds. For severe IBD, recommended starting dosage is 1-2 mg/lb/day, so 
Lucy right now is right in the middle of that dosage (1.5 mg/lb/day). She 
has been as low as 1.25 mg every 3 days in the past, but has been having a lot 
of problems lately and so is back up to her highest dose.

So are you saying she would get more prednisolone than the pred she is 
getting? Are you sure?

Michelle

In a message dated 9/10/2006 2:29:41 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Oh 
  good..
  
  The typical dosage 
  for prednisolone is 
  Dose: 2-4mg/kg/day 
  given by mouth, sliding dose every 10-14 days, until optimal dose for that cat 
  is found. 
  And I was giving 
  Naomi 1.25 mg (1/4 tables of 5 mg) of predisone and she weighed only 4 
  lb..so,, according to this calculation, she would have needed more mg of 
  prednisolone, but I think my vet was being very conservative – how much of 
  predisone do you give to Lucy now?