Re: To Nina Re: my experience with pits.....

2006-11-11 Thread catatonya
It's best for them to come to your house. My guy came for a small fee (dinner money). lol.wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Hey Karen,Thanks! I would love that. Do you think she willwant to come look at her interact with our dogs, or doyou think she will want us to bring her to Lewisville?I am in Rockwall.Thanks!Wendy--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wendy, Your in Texas? where at I can recommend some reliable person in lewisville  who can temperament test her for you. I am not sure what she charges but she  gave me a great deal of very frank advice when I had my pit. She will not sugar  coat anything let me know. Karen
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Re: To Nina: Re: my experience with pits.....

2006-11-10 Thread catatonya
Don't be so sure wendy. Everyone I showed pics of the dog I found said 'pit', but then the vet and pit rescue said he was NOT a pit. Does this dog act aggressive toward your other dogs? Does he chase the cats?twendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  P.S. We are absolutely sure she's a Pit Bull. Shemight be mixed, but her head is unmistakably pit bull.:)Wendy--- Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: Hi Wendy, I'm glad your rescue girl is in out of danger and sleeping soundly. I  do wonder about her puppies though. Life can be so tough sometimes.   Unfortunately I have to second Karen's input on Pits. (Congratulations  on placing the pos today Karen!). You probably know me well enough to
  understand how it pains me to generalize about any breed, but Pits have  the rep they do for a reason. I have met plenty of of lovable ones, but  they have to be well trained and adhere to a different kind of  interaction than say, a Golden Retriever. I don't specialize in  aggression problems, but I've seen dogs that wag their entire bodies  when they greet you, turn mighty ugly mighty fast when matched with an  owner that isn't alpha enough to influence their behavior sufficiently.  Any breed of dog can have these problems, but this is a breed that is  known for them. Esp since you have no idea of her history, you'll need  to stay alert and help her understand that you are capable of making  decisions in order to insure everyone is safe. Are you absolutely sure  that she's Pit x and not
 something else? Perhaps Boxer, or Lab? I much  prefer to see Pit Bulls placed in an 'only pet' home with no children  situation. If the vet thinks she's a Pit Bull, I would contact the Pit  Bull rescue in your area and see if they are willing to help you place  this girl. It's a good sign that she's not immediately fence fighting  with your other dogs, but it could just be because she's worn out and is  waiting to feel out the situation.   I've also heard about Thyroid problems causing sudden aggression, I wish  I could remember the details involved, you can probably Google it and  find out more.  She was sent to you for a reason. Just be careful and think carefully  about making a long-term commitment to her. You may just be meant to be  the "go-between" in finding her true forever
 home.  Good luck sweetie  and thank you for helping her. Nina  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Phaewryn and all,  Well I have been doing dog and until recently pit rescue for 20 some   years.  I am afraid I do not agree. I had a pit from weaning till 4 1/2 years   and she "turned" or developed sudden rage. A beloved indoor family   fully vetted dog became a killer in 6 months.  I also have a foster who was attacked by her own pit with injuries   including 26 staples in her head. Also from a dog with sudden rage   syndrome.  Never no matter how long you have them trust a pit completely. They   were born and bred to kill and that is what they do best.  My pit Judas used to help me potty bottle baby kittens,. then started 
  chewing up pups.  When you get yours checked please include a test for lyme and   thyroid.another major cause of aggression in pits and other breeds   of dogs.  A rescued pit needs lots of training love patience and RESPECT.  I have only read a few of these emails we had petco adoptions all   weekend but good luck with the pit.  BY THE WAY ALL I PLACE A FIV POSITIVE CAT TODAY WHO WILL HAVE A FIV   BUDDY TO HANG WITH.  KAREN Get your email and see which of your friends are online - Right on the New Yahoo.com (http://www.yahoo.com/preview) 

Re: To Nina: Re: my experience with pits.....

2006-11-10 Thread catatonya
I can't take the test either. The dog I found my family, and people on my rescue list all thought was a pit. But he was friendly as all get out, got along with the dogs, and didn't chase my cats (though I've kept him on a leash with them, because they stalk him!)There's a guy on my list who rescues pits and HE thought he was a pit from the pictures, but when he got here he said he wasn't.He has 5 rescued pits. They don't fight at all except trying to push each other out of the bed where they all want to sleep together. A pit that seems friendly is at no greater risk than any other dog who seems friendly to 'turn'. They just have more strength.I'm a million times more afraid of dobes and rotties.t[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  you guys don't want to here this but I didn't do so well on the quiz..  LOL  Karen

Re: To Nina: Re: my experience with pits.....

2006-11-10 Thread Gary Murphy


Many years ago I had adobe that hid under the bed during storms and who let somebody break-in and rob our house. The meter reader came once when I was out in the yard with her and asked me to please put her inside since his little computer tablet said "BAD DOG" for our address. As he stared at her in wide-eyed fear, I hustled her into the house while trying to explain that she was not the problem dog, it was our rotten little terrier mutt who was at that very moment latched onto his pant leg and trying to take him down. He was so focused on the dobe he never even noticed thathe was already under attack until I came back to grab her.I've heard since that there is a personality difference between male and female dobes,I wouldlove to have another female again.But those cute little curly-haired terriers are just vicious... :o)

Beth


Re: To Nina: Re: my experience with pits.....

2006-11-10 Thread Gary Murphy




Many years ago I had adobe that hid under the bed during storms and who let somebody break-in and rob our house. The meter reader came once when I was out in the yard with her and asked me to please put her inside since his little computer tablet said "BAD DOG" for our address. As he stared at her in wide-eyed fear, I hustled her into the house while trying to explain that she was not the problem dog, it was our rotten little terrier mutt who was at that very moment latched onto his pant leg and trying to take him down. He was so focused on the dobe he never even noticed thathe was already under attack until I came back to grab her.I've heard since that there is a personality difference between male and female dobes,I wouldlove to have another female again.But those cute little curly-haired terriers are just vicious... :o)

Beth

Original message from Catatonya:
I can't take the test either. The dog I found my family, and people on my rescue list all thought was a pit. But he was friendly as all get out, got along with the dogs, and didn't chase my cats (though I've kept him on a leash with them, because they stalk him!)

There's a guy on my list who rescues pits and HE thought he was a pit from the pictures, but when he got here he said he wasn't.

He has 5 rescued pits. They don't fight at all except trying to push each other out of the bed where they all want to sleep together. A pit that seems friendly is at no greater risk than any other dog who seems friendly to 'turn'. They just have more strength.

I'm a million times more afraid of dobes and rotties.

t[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


you guys don't want to here this but I didn't do so well on the quiz..
LOL
Karen



Re: To Nina: Re: my experience with pits.....

2006-11-10 Thread FORGETMENOTPETS



LOL yeah I have a min pin mix that will bite a stranger and draw blood in a 
quick ness.
I was raised with Dobes and don't believe there is much difference in the 
disposition. Males should be neutered as early as possible, that helps a lot 
with aggression


Re: To Nina: Re: my experience with pits.....

2006-11-10 Thread Nina
Rotties need to be raised with care and respect, but I feel more 
comfortable around one I've just met because, (at least for me), they 
are easier to read than Dobbies.  Their facial expressions and body 
language signal what's going on in their heads and give more of an 
indication of their emotions than Dobermans.  There can be something 
unnerving about the cool stillness in a Dobbie's stare when he's unsure 
of your intentions.  Every dog, just as every human, is an individual 
and is the result of genetics and environment.  You just can't judge a 
book by it's cover.  Think Ted Bundy.

Nina

Gary Murphy wrote:
Many years ago I had a dobe that hid under the bed during storms and 
who let somebody break-in and rob our house.  The meter reader came 
once when I was out in the yard with her and asked me to please put 
her inside since his little computer tablet said BAD DOG for our 
address.  As he stared at her in wide-eyed fear, I hustled her into 
the house while trying  to explain that she was not the problem dog, 
it was our rotten little terrier mutt who was at that very moment 
latched onto his pant leg and trying to take him down.  He was so 
focused on the dobe he never even noticed that he was already under 
attack until I came back to grab her.  I've heard since that there is 
a personality difference between male and female dobes, I would love 
to have another female again.  But those cute little curly-haired 
terriers are just vicious... :o) 
 
Beth 
 
Original message from Catatonya:
I can't take the test either.  The dog I found my family, and people 
on my rescue list all thought was a pit.  But he was friendly as all 
get out, got along with the dogs, and didn't chase my cats (though 
I've kept him on a leash with them, because they stalk him!)
 
There's a guy on my list who rescues pits and HE thought he was a pit 
from the pictures, but when he got here he said he wasn't.
 
He has 5 rescued pits.  They don't fight at all except trying to push 
each other out of the bed where they all want to sleep together.  A 
pit that seems friendly is at no greater risk than any other dog who 
seems friendly to 'turn'.  They just have more strength.
 
I'm a million times more afraid of dobes and rotties.
 
t


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you guys don't want to here this but I didn't do so well on the
quiz..
LOL
Karen


 





Re: To Nina: Re: my experience with pits.....

2006-11-10 Thread Gary Murphy


Oh, I understand about that "cool stare". People would cross the street to avoid us when I was out walking her. She was still scary looking even with her uncropped ears, big belly, and genetically caused near baldness. I would never approach a strange dobe with that focused stare...

Missing that dear old dog now :o(
Beth

Re: To Nina: Re: my experience with pits.....

2006-11-10 Thread FORGETMENOTPETS



Just say the word Beth and I am sure we can get you anther one 
!!

Karen


Re: To Nina: Re: my experience with pits.....

2006-11-10 Thread Gary Murphy


I would love that, but am maxed out at 11 dear souls in 1250 square feet... (5 cats, 1 african grey parrot, 2 lovebirds, my mom, my husband, and myself.) If I ever move to a bigger place, a new dobe is a definite!

Thanks,
Beth

Original message:
Just say the word Beth and I am sure we can get you anther one !!

Karen

RE: To Nina Re: my experience with pits.....

2006-10-30 Thread Chris
You can also try Leah at Spindletop  http://www.spindletoppitbullrefuge.org/
They're somewhere around Houston

Chris
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Subject: OT: To Nina Re: my experience with pits.

Hey Nina,

I sent emails to the only two pit bull shelters in
Texas.  The first person I heard back from today. 
He's booked, but he's in Kingsville, which is like 8
hours from Dallas, so that's ok.  He was very nice. 
The other person is in Gun Barrell City, not too far
from here, and I am hoping to hear back from her
today.  She has 8 pits in her shelter, and one of them
has been there three years!  Poor thing!  I am hoping
she will know someone closer to where I live that
might be willing to come over and observe her.  I will
definitely not be turning her over to a regular
shelter, don't worry.  I can't tell what she might be
mixed with, if anything.  I am hoping my vet can tell
me.  I was really wishing I had your phone number
yesterday when we were trying to evaluate whether to
take her with us or not, because I know you do dog
rescue as well.  We are considering keeping her if she
and the other dogs can get along.  So far so good.  We
are also considering building a separate enclosure for
her while we are gone at work during the day.

:)
Wendy


 


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Re: To Nina Re: my experience with pits.....

2006-10-30 Thread FORGETMENOTPETS



Wendy,
Your in Texas? where at I can recommend some reliable person in lewisville 
who can temperament test her for you. I am not sure what she charges but she 
gave me a great deal of very frank advice when I had my pit. She will not sugar 
coat anything let me know.
Karen


Re: To Nina Re: my experience with pits.....

2006-10-30 Thread wendy
Hey Karen,

Thanks!  I would love that.  Do you think she will
want to come look at her interact with our dogs, or do
you think she will want us to bring her to Lewisville?
 I am in Rockwall.

Thanks!
Wendy

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Wendy,
 Your in Texas? where at I can recommend some
 reliable person in lewisville  
 who can temperament test her for you. I am not sure
 what she charges but she  
 gave me a great deal of very frank advice when I had
 my pit. She will not sugar 
  coat anything let me know.
 Karen
 



 

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Re: To Nina: Re: my experience with pits.....

2006-10-29 Thread Jennifer Phaewryn O'Gwynn



Absolutely sure? Check out this webpage:
http://www.pitbullsontheweb.com/petbull/findpit.html
(I think most people will be shocked by the results if they take the 
quiz)
Phaewryn

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Re: To Nina: Re: my experience with pits.....

2006-10-29 Thread FORGETMENOTPETS



you guys don't want to here this but I didn't do so well on the 
quiz..
LOL
Karen


Re: To Nina: Re: my experience with pits.....

2006-10-29 Thread Jennifer Phaewryn O'Gwynn



Me neither, but I'd seen it before, and failed it... so that's why I posted 
it, because I know it's really hard to tell a pit "for sure".
Phaewryn

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Re: To Nina: Re: my experience with pits.....

2006-10-29 Thread wendy
it took us ten or more tries to get the right answer! 
that test is unfair though...who the heck ever heard
of a corso or dogo or whatever some of those names
are?!!!

;)
Wendy

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 well on the  quiz..
 LOL
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Re: To Nina: Re: my experience with pits.....

2006-10-29 Thread FORGETMENOTPETS



Well to me they are foreign or "designer" names for pitbulls.
I am familiar with most of them but still cant tell the 
difference