Re: anesthesia question-atropine's interesting history!

2005-10-30 Thread Lernermichelle




No, she doesn't get it. I can't give her any supplements that alter the ph 
of her urine right now. She had a struvite stone before, and then, maybe from 
making it too acidic, she got an ammonia urate stone, which is pretty rare, and 
we are trying to manage her ph now that the stone was removed.
Michelle

In a message dated 10/29/2005 9:18:34 P.M. Central Standard Time, 
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  are you giving her vitamin c? you know that that can cause 
  diarrhea. in her present state, if you are giving it to her you might 
  need to cut back? just at thought.
  
  t




Re: anesthesia question-atropine's interesting history!

2005-10-29 Thread catatonya
are you giving her vitamin c? you know that that can cause diarrhea. in her present state, if you are giving it to her you might need to cut back? just at thought.

t[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



She has had bad diarrhea. And she seem to be losing weight. Though in good spirits and eating and drinking. She got diarrhea before the surgery, maybe from changing foods too quickly, or from being on Baytril for a month, or both. I am giving her probiotics. I am picking up meds soon, probably Metronidazole I would guess.
Thanks,
Michelle

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Good to hear surgery went well! Keep us posted on how she feels.t



Re: anesthesia question-atropine's interesting history!

2005-10-25 Thread jenmeyer
I've heard of atropine, but wasn't sure what it was for...did a quick 
Google check, but couldn't quite deciper the medical-speak!  :)  
Sounds like it's a kind of pain killer, though...and I found this tid-
bit kinda interesting:

Atropine extracts from the Egyptian henbane were used by Cleopatra in 
the last century B.C. to dilate her pupils, in the hope that she would 
appear more alluring. In the Renaissance, women used the juice of the 
berries of Atropa belladonna to enlarge the pupils of their eyes, for 
cosmetic reasons; 'belladonna' is Italian for 'beautiful lady'.



But if you tame me, then we shall need each other. To me, you will be 
unique in all the world. To you, I shall be unique in all the world; 
You become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed... --Antoine 
de Saint-Exupéry

If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know 
each other.  If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and 
what you do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys. --
Chief Dan George

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 9:17 am
Subject: Re: anesthesia question

 
 Yes, she did have a pain killer shot. Maybe that was it.  She got  
 atropine, 
 which is what they said dilated her eyes-- is that the pain killer 
 or  
 something else?
 Thanks,
 Michelle
 
 In a message dated 10/24/2005 10:15:58 P.M. Central Standard Time, 
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 Did they  administer any kind of pain killer?  Our Pips had a 
 slightly 
 similar  reaction after his pain killer injection...dilated 
 pupils, 
 and just  generally rolling around obsessively...I could tell the 
 pain 
 killer was  good stuff... :)
 
 
 




Re: anesthesia question-atropine's interesting history!

2005-10-25 Thread Lernermichelle




Very interesting! Well, that explains her eyes dilating!
Michelle

In a message dated 10/25/2005 9:39:51 A.M. Central Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I've 
  heard of atropine, but wasn't sure what it was for...did a quick Google 
  check, but couldn't quite deciper the "medical-speak!" :) 
  Sounds like it's a kind of pain killer, though...and I found this 
  tid-bit kinda interesting:"Atropine extracts from the Egyptian 
  henbane were used by Cleopatra in the last century B.C. to dilate her 
  pupils, in the hope that she would appear more alluring. In the 
  Renaissance, women used the juice of the berries of Atropa belladonna to 
  enlarge the pupils of their eyes, for cosmetic reasons; 'belladonna' is 
  Italian for 'beautiful lady'."




RE: anesthesia question-atropine's interesting history!

2005-10-25 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto








How is Lucy today?











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Very interesting! Well, that explains her
eyes dilating!





Michelle











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I've heard of atropine, but wasn't sure
what it was for...did a quick 
Google check, but couldn't quite deciper the medical-speak!
:) 
Sounds like it's a kind of pain killer, though...and I found this tid-
bit kinda interesting:

Atropine extracts from the Egyptian henbane were used by Cleopatra in 
the last century B.C. to dilate her pupils, in the hope that she would 
appear more alluring. In the Renaissance, women used the juice of the 
berries of Atropa belladonna to enlarge the pupils of their eyes, for 
cosmetic reasons; 'belladonna' is Italian for 'beautiful lady'.


















Re: anesthesia question-atropine's interesting history!

2005-10-25 Thread Lernermichelle




Pretty normal, except for her eyes still being dilated. She is sleeping a 
lot now. Which is understandable, since she had major surgery yesterday and then 
hardly slept afterwards or during the night due to her obsession with the 
invisible wall mice (amusingly, at one point I actually heard a real mouse in 
the wall, but she did not seem to notice that). I have her locked in my 
office with me as I work (I work from home) and she is sacked out on a cat bed 
next to a portable heater.
Thanks for asking,
Michelle

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How is Lucy 
  today?




RE: anesthesia question-atropine's interesting history!

2005-10-25 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto








Does she see have fever by any chance, do
you know?

What was the surgery about? 











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Pretty normal, except for her eyes still
being dilated. She is sleeping a lot now. Which is understandable, since she
had major surgery yesterday and then hardly slept afterwards or during the
night due to her obsession with the invisible wall mice (amusingly, at one
point I actually heard a real mouse in the wall, but she did not seem to notice
that). I have her locked in my office with me as I work (I work from
home) and she is sacked out on a cat bed next to a portable heater.





Thanks for asking,





Michelle











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How is Lucy today?


















Re: anesthesia question-atropine's interesting history!

2005-10-25 Thread Lernermichelle




I have not taken her temp, and she does not feel overly warm. She is eating 
and drinking well. She has diarrhea though.

The surgery was to remove a very large bladder stone which did not dissolve 
from the S/D diet and so is probably oxylate ( they are having it analyzed to 
tell for sure). She had a struvite stone before which did dissolve, and then I 
think the food I put her on to prevent another struvite stone may have caused 
the oxylate stone. I am going to try to keep her on Royal Canin S/O now, which 
is the only food that is supposed to prevent both types of stones.

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  Does she see have 
  fever by any chance, do you know?
  What was the surgery 
  about? 




RE: anesthesia question-atropine's interesting history!

2005-10-25 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto








Wow.. it does sounds like a major surgery
I am so glad to hear that Lucy is drinking and eating! Keep us posted with her
progress.











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I have not taken her temp, and she does
not feel overly warm. She is eating and drinking well. She has diarrhea though.











The surgery was to remove a very large
bladder stone which did not dissolve from the S/D diet and so is probably
oxylate ( they are having it analyzed to tell for sure). She had a struvite
stone before which did dissolve, and then I think the food I put her on to
prevent another struvite stone may have caused the oxylate stone. I am going to
try to keep her on Royal Canin S/O now, which is the only food that is supposed
to prevent both types of stones.











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A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:





Does she see have fever by any chance, do you know?

What was the surgery about? 


















Re: anesthesia question-atropine's interesting history!

2005-10-25 Thread maimaipg
atropine dries the mouth and other secretions.  I'm really not sure about
the painkiller part--bet against it though.
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Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 10:38 AM
Subject: Re: anesthesia question-atropine's interesting history!


 I've heard of atropine, but wasn't sure what it was for...did a quick
 Google check, but couldn't quite deciper the medical-speak!  :)
 Sounds like it's a kind of pain killer, though...and I found this tid-
 bit kinda interesting:

 Atropine extracts from the Egyptian henbane were used by Cleopatra in
 the last century B.C. to dilate her pupils, in the hope that she would
 appear more alluring. In the Renaissance, women used the juice of the
 berries of Atropa belladonna to enlarge the pupils of their eyes, for
 cosmetic reasons; 'belladonna' is Italian for 'beautiful lady'.


 
 But if you tame me, then we shall need each other. To me, you will be
 unique in all the world. To you, I shall be unique in all the world;
 You become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed... --Antoine
 de Saint-Exupéry

 If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know
 each other.  If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and
 what you do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys. --
 Chief Dan George

 - Original Message -
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 9:17 am
 Subject: Re: anesthesia question

 
  Yes, she did have a pain killer shot. Maybe that was it.  She got
  atropine,
  which is what they said dilated her eyes-- is that the pain killer
  or
  something else?
  Thanks,
  Michelle
 
  In a message dated 10/24/2005 10:15:58 P.M. Central Standard Time,
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  Did they  administer any kind of pain killer?  Our Pips had a
  slightly
  similar  reaction after his pain killer injection...dilated
  pupils,
  and just  generally rolling around obsessively...I could tell the
  pain
  killer was  good stuff... :)
 
 
 
 







Re: anesthesia question-atropine's interesting history!

2005-10-25 Thread catatonya
Good to hear surgery went well!  Keep us posted on how she feels.

t

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 Pretty normal, except for her eyes still being dilated. She is
 sleeping a  
 lot now. Which is understandable, since she had major surgery
 yesterday and then 
  hardly slept afterwards or during the night due to her obsession
 with the  
 invisible wall mice (amusingly, at one point I actually heard a real
 mouse in  
 the wall, but she did not seem to notice that).  I have her locked in
 my  
 office with me as I work (I work from home) and she is sacked out on
 a cat bed  
 next to a portable heater.
 Thanks for asking,
 Michelle
  
 In a message dated 10/25/2005 10:54:33 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 How is Lucy  today?