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I would not treat all year. I had to treat mine last month and I am going to do it again this week for fleas, but prior to that I had not treated anyone for 2years. This is a bad year, too much rain. Have they been itching @ all? Have you seen any fleas? Usually by the time you actually SEE one there are many. Frontline , Advantage is good, but I would not use Revolution, as as good forfleas, has Ivermec in it, can cause nerve damage in some cats and skin reactions. Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2007 9:01 PM Subject: Re: fleas arh What protocol do you guys usually follow for your positive cats (who are exclusively indoor, of course) and flea treatments? I'm sure with the FeLV, flea bites are even more dangerous. Should I be treating them with Frontline/Advantage every month year round, monthly during the summer months, every three months, never? Michael -- Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL.com.
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I use the dog size too. It takes about 6 tubes to treat all on cats. Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: Sally Davis To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2007 9:04 PM Subject: Re: fleas arh Hi Susan Thanks, we have been terribly dry this summer maybe that is why the fleas took so long to show up. He sleeps on the floor or on Eric's bed. I had to change the bed linens this morning as Eric is sick. I already treated all the cats except for Daisy she is too squirmy to get a hold of. I was even able to get some Advantage on my semi-feral girl. She only comes in to eat. I buy the 50 pound dog sized Advantage which will treat about 4 cats maybe 5. With 11 cats now it is the only way I can afford the stuff. I always have some around and yes, I will probably have to treat them for the next few months. I usually know when I have fleas because of Spike, she is allergic and starts getting scabs from the bites. She is the reason I knew the fleas were showing up. She was treated first. Oh yes and fleas love me as well. Sally On 8/26/07, Susan Dubose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sally, Don't feel bad, fleas are particulairly devilish this year due to the rains. I would give Junoir a flea treatment, either Advantage or Frontline ( not revolution, doesn't seem to help much for fleas in my opinion). Once he is treated, the fleas should begin to die due to biting him. Probably should treat allof the kitties, tho. Maybe 3 months in a row. Wash his bedding, that's where most of the eggs are hanging out probably. Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: Sally Davis To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2007 8:30 PM Subject: fleas arh Ok folk I shouldn't panic but I found a few fleas on Junior. I combed out what I could. It was only 4 fleas and only a little flea dirt. However his vet last year told me it only takes one flea to cause Haemobartonella. Now that was a year ago b4 his Felv dx. He was not tested for Haemobartonella, but was put on antibiotics. I really think the anemia was from the FeLV infection stage. He was only treated with Baytril for a week, maybe it was two weeks. He has not had anemia since. Junior is pretty much on his own but occasionally Silver goes into his room. I am guessing that is where the flea(s) came from. I had not had fleas on my cats all summer, and yes I check them with a flea comb. This past week, I started seeing a few so, I have been treating that cats with Advantage. Junior just got this as well. I hope Junior will be ok. He is doing so well. Unfortunately I cannot spray or vacuum Erics room. He is in there 95% of the time due to COPD and possible polymyositis. His msucle biopsy shoud come back this week. That is where Junior stays. Sally -- Sally, Eric (not a cat),Junior, Speedy, Grey and White, Ittle Bitty, Little Black, Lily, Daisy, Silver, and Spike Visit my BB for some pictures post your as well. http://www.k6az.com/ki4spk/index.php?sid=c57c00cf5804ef13853ed6e77a68eed3 -- Sally, Eric (not a cat),Junior, Speedy, Grey and White, Ittle Bitty, Little Black, Lily, Daisy, Silver, and Spike Visit my BB for some pictures post your as well. http://www.k6az.com/ki4spk/index.php?sid=c57c00cf5804ef13853ed6e77a68eed3
Re: fleas arhhhhh
On 8/27/07, Susan Dubose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Frontline , Advantage is good, but I would not use Revolution, as as good forfleas, has Ivermec in it, can cause nerve damage in some cats and skin reactions. See, I use Revolution every month, especially on my heart disease kitty. I am more worried about heartworms than nerve damage or skin reactions. Not that nerve damage is good, but everything is a crapshoot it seems. I'd rather have nerve damage than heartworms. (Not that I want either). Some vets lately have been recommending Advantage Plus, which is supposed to kill everything Revolution does. I have not studied it yet and it is not available at the source from which I get my Revolution. -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help Caroline! http://rescuties.chipin.com/caroline I GoodSearch for Rescuties. Raise money for your favorite charity or school just by searching the Internet with GoodSearch - www.goodsearch.com - powered by Yahoo!
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I used Revolution on my Monkee for the 4 years that I had him and we never had a skin reaction or any other problems. I used it because I wanted to kill as many worms as possible because he had been living outside at lease 6 mths and eating a rabbit, a dove, etc. a day (if not more than one per day-- little monster!). I use Advantage now though on my indoor foster cat and an outdoor neighborhood cat I am treating for fleas. Advantage is just easier to come by and I heard that Advantage actually keeps the fleas from actually biting; whereas Revolution, the fleas bite first and then die? Is is this accurate? I was told by a vet that Advantage is better for cats with actual flea allergies or flea dermatis because those cats can't get even one flea bite. If I am wrong about this, someone please correct?? I wanted to keep the fleas from actually biting these cats because they seemed so bothered with fleas (scratching and biting ALL THE TIME), whereas, when I had Monkee, he never did that, even in the beginning when he first came in Advantage works wonderfully tho. The outdoor kitty, I find her sleeping all the time- whereas before, she had trouble getting restful sleep because of the fleas biting; and she no longer scratches and bites constantly...I can tell that she KNOWS she feels better. My foster kitty came into my house as a complete flea bag! She left flea debris all over my bed the first night (ew...I freaked out!). I put Advantage on her the next day, changed the bed sheets and the very day after, NO FLEA DEBRIS AT ALL.All I found was 1 dead flea (whoo hoo!). I believe Advantage starts working within hours. Very effective. -Caroline From:"Kelley Saveika" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To:felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgTo:felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject:Re: fleas arhDate:Mon, 27 Aug 2007 08:45:18 -0500On 8/27/07, Susan Dubose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Frontline , Advantage is good, but I would not use Revolution, as as good forfleas, has Ivermec in it, can cause nerve damage in some cats and skin reactions.See, I use Revolution every month, especially on my heart diseasekitty.I am more worried about heartworms than nerve damage or skinreactions.Not that nerve damage is good, but everything is acrapshoot it seems.I'd rather have nerve damage than heartworms.(Not that I want either).Some vets lately have been recommending Advantage Plus, which issupposed to kill everything Revolution does.I have not studied ityet and it is not available at the source from which I get myRevolution.--Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.http://www.rescuties.orgVist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20Please help Caroline!http://rescuties.chipin.com/carolineI GoodSearch for Rescuties.Raise money for your favorite charity or school just by searching theInternet with GoodSearch - www.goodsearch.com - powered by Yahoo! See what youre getting into before you go there
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I have not been keeping up with this thread... but I saw heartworms and decided to read more. *Everyone: Please don't be naive about heartworms!* Take it from someone who has been heartbroken over losing a kitty that was misdiagnosed with Asthma (when it was heartworms - diagnosed by necropsy). She died instantly from a pulmonary embolism caused by heartworms. I've lost her to heartworms... and have two other rescues who have tested positive. Most vets haven't seen it because they assume heart attack when it is really heartworms. We are in Florida and the vets here are seeing it more and more of it each year. They are also seeing it with *indoor only* cats. There is a blood test for antibodies and another test that can be done to test for antigens. I have used Revolution without problem ever since... Our vet won't even carry the new Advantage until there is more information on it... and more practical data on the use of it. Heartworm is out there (especially in warmer climates) and it is *deadly*... I'll never get over losing Salem... or the guilt of not double checking her diagnosis. Now I watch my two other boys who have been diagnosed with it like a hawk, and know I could lose either of them without a moment's notice. There is no cure for it like there is for dogs Sorry if I've jumped in here mid discussion... Leslie =^..^= On 8/27/07, Susan Dubose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kelly, I have in the past discussed heartworms w/ Dr. Smith, and he said he has seen one case in 40+ years. I have never seen a case, myself,but I have seen several cats have skin reactions,nerve damage death even from Revolution. Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 8:45 AM Subject: Re: fleas arh On 8/27/07, Susan Dubose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Frontline , Advantage is good, but I would not use Revolution, as as good forfleas, has Ivermec in it, can cause nerve damage in some cats and skin reactions. See, I use Revolution every month, especially on my heart disease kitty. I am more worried about heartworms than nerve damage or skin reactions. Not that nerve damage is good, but everything is a crapshoot it seems. I'd rather have nerve damage than heartworms. (Not that I want either). Some vets lately have been recommending Advantage Plus, which is supposed to kill everything Revolution does. I have not studied it yet and it is not available at the source from which I get my Revolution. -- -- Leslie =^..^= To leave the world a better place - whether by a healthy child, a garden patch, or an improved social condition - that is to have succeeded. That only one life breathed easier because you lived - that is success. ---Ralph Waldo Emerson
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Who is Dr.Jones? Is that Blatt's wife? I bet if you asked Dr. Smith he would say heartworms is not that common. Heis out of town, willbe back on Wed. I will ask him. Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 1:58 PM Subject: Re: fleas arh That makes me really nervous. Dr Jones said it was really, really important she be on heartworm prevention. I wonder about Advantage Plus...I will ask Dr Samon about it... On 8/27/07, Susan Dubose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kelly, I have in the past discussed heartworms w/ Dr. Smith, and he said he has seen one case in 40+ years. I have never seen a case, myself,but I have seen several cats have skin reactions,nerve damage death even from Revolution. Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 8:45 AM Subject: Re: fleas arh On 8/27/07, Susan Dubose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Frontline , Advantage is good, but I would not use Revolution, as as good forfleas, has Ivermec in it, can cause nerve damage in some cats and skin reactions. See, I use Revolution every month, especially on my heart disease kitty. I am more worried about heartworms than nerve damage or skin reactions. Not that nerve damage is good, but everything is a crapshoot it seems. I'd rather have nerve damage than heartworms. (Not that I want either). Some vets lately have been recommending Advantage Plus, which is supposed to kill everything Revolution does. I have not studied it yet and it is not available at the source from which I get my Revolution. -- -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help Caroline! http://rescuties.chipin.com/caroline I GoodSearch for Rescuties. Raise money for your favorite charity or school just by searching the Internet with GoodSearch - www.goodsearch.com - powered by Yahoo!
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Yes, Dr. Jones is Dr. Blatt's wife. Missy has an 8 mm hole in her heart. On 8/27/07, Susan Dubose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Who is Dr.Jones? Is that Blatt's wife? I bet if you asked Dr. Smith he would say heartworms is not that common. Heis out of town, willbe back on Wed. I will ask him. Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 1:58 PM Subject: Re: fleas arh That makes me really nervous. Dr Jones said it was really, really important she be on heartworm prevention. I wonder about Advantage Plus...I will ask Dr Samon about it... On 8/27/07, Susan Dubose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kelly, I have in the past discussed heartworms w/ Dr. Smith, and he said he has seen one case in 40+ years. I have never seen a case, myself,but I have seen several cats have skin reactions,nerve damage death even from Revolution. Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 8:45 AM Subject: Re: fleas arh On 8/27/07, Susan Dubose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Frontline , Advantage is good, but I would not use Revolution, as as good forfleas, has Ivermec in it, can cause nerve damage in some cats and skin reactions. See, I use Revolution every month, especially on my heart disease kitty. I am more worried about heartworms than nerve damage or skin reactions. Not that nerve damage is good, but everything is a crapshoot it seems. I'd rather have nerve damage than heartworms. (Not that I want either). Some vets lately have been recommending Advantage Plus, which is supposed to kill everything Revolution does. I have not studied it yet and it is not available at the source from which I get my Revolution. -- -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help Caroline! http://rescuties.chipin.com/caroline I GoodSearch for Rescuties. Raise money for your favorite charity or school just by searching the Internet with GoodSearch - www.goodsearch.com - powered by Yahoo! -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help Caroline! http://rescuties.chipin.com/caroline I GoodSearch for Rescuties. Raise money for your favorite charity or school just by searching the Internet with GoodSearch - www.goodsearch.com - powered by Yahoo!
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Well, she might know her stuff as far as cardio health,but all of her credability w/me went out the window when I found that she was in charge of the cruel Primate test lab out in Bastrop,which in owned by UT. I knew that her her husband had been involved in this type of research in Hawaii years ago, but I thought they were passed that. Apparently not. And he almost got the Hawaiian research lab CLKOSED down due to extremem cruelty to the animals,not to mention the grants that he lost. I would definately get a second opinion, how about the Specialty hospital that Samon uses? There are very good doctors there, I used 2of them for a client's 2 dogs. Sorry, I just would not give Jones the time of day. Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 2:17 PM Subject: Re: fleas arh Yes, Dr. Jones is Dr. Blatt's wife. Missy has an 8 mm hole in her heart. On 8/27/07, Susan Dubose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Who is Dr.Jones? Is that Blatt's wife? I bet if you asked Dr. Smith he would say heartworms is not that common. Heis out of town, willbe back on Wed. I will ask him. Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 1:58 PM Subject: Re: fleas arh That makes me really nervous. Dr Jones said it was really, really important she be on heartworm prevention. I wonder about Advantage Plus...I will ask Dr Samon about it... On 8/27/07, Susan Dubose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kelly, I have in the past discussed heartworms w/ Dr. Smith, and he said he has seen one case in 40+ years. I have never seen a case, myself,but I have seen several cats have skin reactions,nerve damage death even from Revolution. Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 8:45 AM Subject: Re: fleas arh On 8/27/07, Susan Dubose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Frontline , Advantage is good, but I would not use Revolution, as as good forfleas, has Ivermec in it, can cause nerve damage in some cats and skin reactions. See, I use Revolution every month, especially on my heart disease kitty. I am more worried about heartworms than nerve damage or skin reactions. Not that nerve damage is good, but everything is a crapshoot it seems. I'd rather have nerve damage than heartworms. (Not that I want either). Some vets lately have been recommending Advantage Plus, which is supposed to kill everything Revolution does. I have not studied it yet and it is not available at the source from which I get my Revolution. -- -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help Caroline! http://rescuties.chipin.com/caroline I GoodSearch for Rescuties. Raise money for your favorite charity or school just by searching the Internet with GoodSearch - www.goodsearch.com - powered by Yahoo! -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help Caroline! http://rescuties.chipin.com/caroline I GoodSearch for Rescuties. Raise money for your favorite charity or school just by searching the Internet with GoodSearch - www.goodsearch.com - powered by Yahoo!
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I went to that specialty hospital before I went to her. Now we are going to see Dr. Miller at Texas AM...for a 3rd opinion. On 8/27/07, Susan Dubose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, she might know her stuff as far as cardio health,but all of her credability w/me went out the window when I found that she was in charge of the cruel Primate test lab out in Bastrop,which in owned by UT. I knew that her her husband had been involved in this type of research in Hawaii years ago, but I thought they were passed that. Apparently not. And he almost got the Hawaiian research lab CLKOSED down due to extremem cruelty to the animals,not to mention the grants that he lost. I would definately get a second opinion, how about the Specialty hospital that Samon uses? There are very good doctors there, I used 2of them for a client's 2 dogs. Sorry, I just would not give Jones the time of day. Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 2:17 PM Subject: Re: fleas arh Yes, Dr. Jones is Dr. Blatt's wife. Missy has an 8 mm hole in her heart. On 8/27/07, Susan Dubose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Who is Dr.Jones? Is that Blatt's wife? I bet if you asked Dr. Smith he would say heartworms is not that common. Heis out of town, willbe back on Wed. I will ask him. Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 1:58 PM Subject: Re: fleas arh That makes me really nervous. Dr Jones said it was really, really important she be on heartworm prevention. I wonder about Advantage Plus...I will ask Dr Samon about it... On 8/27/07, Susan Dubose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kelly, I have in the past discussed heartworms w/ Dr. Smith, and he said he has seen one case in 40+ years. I have never seen a case, myself,but I have seen several cats have skin reactions,nerve damage death even from Revolution. Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 8:45 AM Subject: Re: fleas arh On 8/27/07, Susan Dubose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Frontline , Advantage is good, but I would not use Revolution, as as good forfleas, has Ivermec in it, can cause nerve damage in some cats and skin reactions. See, I use Revolution every month, especially on my heart disease kitty. I am more worried about heartworms than nerve damage or skin reactions. Not that nerve damage is good, but everything is a crapshoot it seems. I'd rather have nerve damage than heartworms. (Not that I want either). Some vets lately have been recommending Advantage Plus, which is supposed to kill everything Revolution does. I have not studied it yet and it is not available at the source from which I get my Revolution. -- -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help Caroline! http://rescuties.chipin.com/caroline I GoodSearch for Rescuties. Raise money for your favorite charity or school just by searching the Internet with GoodSearch - www.goodsearch.com - powered by Yahoo! -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help Caroline
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Hi Leslie, We just started on this thread, we got side tracked from fleas treatments,soyou haven't missed much. I am sorry to hear that you lost a kitty to heartworms, and that you have 2 more that have tested pos. So, there no treatment for it, but what is the vet telling you to do from here on out for them? just curious. I myself, just cannot treat w/ a preventative 60+ cats every month for heartworms, especially when I have muliple chronically ill cats. It is just something else that I personally feel like is not a priority for my cats, especially since my vet says it's rare. I treat for fleas for a 90 day period when they have shown their ugly little heads, but after 90 days I stop. I also do not vacinate my cats, it is just one more thing to stress out their fragile immune systems. They are not allowed outside, and their enclosure is fly proof via pet screen and I have not seen any mosquitoes, either. It's just a risk I have to take, and I don't think there is a right answer or wrong answer here. However, I do respect your opinion and I certainly understand why you are concerned about heartworms. Please keep us updated on the 2 kitties that have heartworms, I would like to hear how they are in the future. Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: Leslie Lawther To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 2:09 PM Subject: Re: fleas arh I have not been keeping up with this thread... but I saw heartworms and decided to read more. Everyone: Please don't be naive about heartworms! Take it from someone who has been heartbroken over losing a kitty that was misdiagnosed with Asthma (when it was heartworms - diagnosed by necropsy). She died instantly from a pulmonary embolism caused by heartworms. I've lost her to heartworms... and have two other rescues who have tested positive. Most vets haven't seen it because they assume heart attack when it is really heartworms. We are in Florida and the vets here are seeing it more and more of it each year. They are also seeing it with indoor only cats. There is a blood test for antibodies and another test that can be done to test for antigens. I have used Revolution without problem ever since... Our vet won't even carry the new Advantage until there is more information on it... and more practical data on the use of it. Heartworm is out there (especially in warmer climates) and it is deadly... I'll never get over losing Salem... or the guilt of not double checking her diagnosis. Now I watch my two other boys who have been diagnosed with it like a hawk, and know I could lose either of them without a moment's notice. There is no cure for it like there is for dogs Sorry if I've jumped in here mid discussion... Leslie =^..^= On 8/27/07, Susan Dubose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kelly, I have in the past discussed heartworms w/ Dr. Smith, and he said he has seen one case in 40+ years. I have never seen a case, myself,but I have seen several cats have skin reactions,nerve damage death even from Revolution. Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 8:45 AM Subject: Re: fleas arh On 8/27/07, Susan Dubose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Frontline , Advantage is good, but I would not use Revolution, as as good forfleas, has Ivermec in it, can cause nerve damage in some cats and skin reactions. See, I use Revolution every month, especially on my heart disease kitty. I am more worried about heartworms than nerve damage or skin reactions. Not that nerve damage is good, but everything is a crapshoot it seems. I'd rather have nerve damage than heartworms. (Not that I want either). Some vets lately have been recommending Advantage Plus, which is supposed to kill everything Revolution does. I have not studied it yet and it is not available at the source from which I get my Revolution
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Sally, Don't feel bad, fleas are particulairly devilish this year due to the rains. I would give Junoir a flea treatment, either Advantage or Frontline ( not revolution, doesn't seem to help much for fleas in my opinion). Once he is treated, the fleas should begin to die due to biting him. Probably should treat allof the kitties, tho. Maybe 3 months in a row. Wash his bedding, that's where most of the eggs are hanging out probably. Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: Sally Davis To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2007 8:30 PM Subject: fleas arh Ok folk I shouldn't panic but I found a few fleas on Junior. I combed out what I could. It was only 4 fleas and only a little flea dirt. However his vet last year told me it only takes one flea to cause Haemobartonella. Now that was a year ago b4 his Felv dx. He was not tested for Haemobartonella, but was put on antibiotics. I really think the anemia was from the FeLV infection stage. He was only treated with Baytril for a week, maybe it was two weeks. He has not had anemia since. Junior is pretty much on his own but occasionally Silver goes into his room. I am guessing that is where the flea(s) came from. I had not had fleas on my cats all summer, and yes I check them with a flea comb. This past week, I started seeing a few so, I have been treating that cats with Advantage. Junior just got this as well. I hope Junior will be ok. He is doing so well. Unfortunately I cannot spray or vacuum Erics room. He is in there 95% of the time due to COPD and possible polymyositis. His msucle biopsy shoud come back this week. That is where Junior stays. Sally -- Sally, Eric (not a cat),Junior, Speedy, Grey and White, Ittle Bitty, Little Black, Lily, Daisy, Silver, and Spike Visit my BB for some pictures post your as well. http://www.k6az.com/ki4spk/index.php?sid=c57c00cf5804ef13853ed6e77a68eed3
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What protocol do you guys usually follow for your positive cats (who are exclusively indoor, of course) and flea treatments? I'm sure with the FeLV, flea bites are even more dangerous. Should I be treating them with Frontline/Advantage every month year round, monthly during the summer months, every three months, never? Michael ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour
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Hi Susan Thanks, we have been terribly dry this summer maybe that is why the fleas took so long to show up. He sleeps on the floor or on Eric's bed. I had to change the bed linens this morning as Eric is sick. I already treated all the cats except for Daisy she is too squirmy to get a hold of. I was even able to get some Advantage on my semi-feral girl. She only comes in to eat. I buy the 50 pound dog sized Advantage which will treat about 4 cats maybe 5. With 11 cats now it is the only way I can afford the stuff. I always have some around and yes, I will probably have to treat them for the next few months. I usually know when I have fleas because of Spike, she is allergic and starts getting scabs from the bites. She is the reason I knew the fleas were showing up. She was treated first. Oh yes and fleas love me as well. Sally On 8/26/07, Susan Dubose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sally, Don't feel bad, fleas are particulairly devilish this year due to the rains. I would give Junoir a flea treatment, either Advantage or Frontline ( not revolution, doesn't seem to help much for fleas in my opinion). Once he is treated, the fleas should begin to die due to biting him. Probably should treat allof the kitties, tho. Maybe 3 months in a row. Wash his bedding, that's where most of the eggs are hanging out probably. Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com http://www.petgirlspetsitting.com/ www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org http://www.tx.siameserescue.org/ www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - *From:* Sally Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Sent:* Sunday, August 26, 2007 8:30 PM *Subject:* fleas arh Ok folk I shouldn't panic but I found a few fleas on Junior. I combed out what I could. It was only 4 fleas and only a little flea dirt. However his vet last year told me it only takes one flea to cause *Haemobartonella. Now that was a year ago b4 his Felv dx. He was not tested for Haemobartonella, but was put on antibiotics. I really think the anemia was from the FeLV infection stage. He was only treated with Baytril for a week, maybe it was two weeks. He has not had anemia since. Junior is pretty much on his own but occasionally Silver goes into his room. I am guessing that is where the flea(s) came from. I had not had fleas on my cats all summer, and yes I check them with a flea comb. This past week, I started seeing a few so, I have been treating that cats with Advantage. Junior just got this as well. * ** *I hope Junior will be ok. He is doing so well. Unfortunately I cannot spray or vacuum Erics room. He is in there 95% of the time due to COPD and possible polymyositis. His msucle biopsy shoud come back this week. That is where Junior stays. * ** *Sally* ** -- Sally, Eric (not a cat),Junior, Speedy, Grey and White, Ittle Bitty, Little Black, Lily, Daisy, Silver, and Spike Visit my BB for some pictures post your as well. http://www.k6az.com/ki4spk/index.php?sid=c57c00cf5804ef13853ed6e77a68eed3 -- Sally, Eric (not a cat),Junior, Speedy, Grey and White, Ittle Bitty, Little Black, Lily, Daisy, Silver, and Spike Visit my BB for some pictures post your as well. http://www.k6az.com/ki4spk/index.php?sid=c57c00cf5804ef13853ed6e77a68eed3
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Susan, By the time I would be able to get the Capstar the advantage should have killed the fleas already on Junior. I find it works in 24 hours as well. Michael, I am not sure. Fleas can hitch hike on you, but I would think the risk is fairly small. I hate using chemicals indiscriminately or I would tell you to treat your lawn. That is where fleas multiply outside. Maybe a barrier at your doors of diatomaceous earth might be a good idea. Sally www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org http://www.tx.siameserescue.org/ www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - *From:* Susan Dubose [EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Sent:* Sunday, August 26, 2007 8:51 PM *Subject:* Re: fleas arh Sally, Don't feel bad, fleas are particulairly devilish this year due to the rains. I would give Junoir a flea treatment, either Advantage or Frontline ( not revolution, doesn't seem to help much for fleas in my opinion). Once he is treated, the fleas should begin to die due to biting him. Probably should treat allof the kitties, tho. Maybe 3 months in a row. Wash his bedding, that's where most of the eggs are hanging out probably. Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com http://www.petgirlspetsitting.com/ www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org http://www.tx.siameserescue.org/ www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - *From:* Sally Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Sent:* Sunday, August 26, 2007 8:30 PM *Subject:* fleas arh Ok folk I shouldn't panic but I found a few fleas on Junior. I combed out what I could. It was only 4 fleas and only a little flea dirt. However his vet last year told me it only takes one flea to cause *Haemobartonella. Now that was a year ago b4 his Felv dx. He was not tested for Haemobartonella, but was put on antibiotics. I really think the anemia was from the FeLV infection stage. He was only treated with Baytril for a week, maybe it was two weeks. He has not had anemia since. Junior is pretty much on his own but occasionally Silver goes into his room. I am guessing that is where the flea(s) came from. I had not had fleas on my cats all summer, and yes I check them with a flea comb. This past week, I started seeing a few so, I have been treating that cats with Advantage. Junior just got this as well. * ** *I hope Junior will be ok. He is doing so well. Unfortunately I cannot spray or vacuum Erics room. He is in there 95% of the time due to COPD and possible polymyositis. His msucle biopsy shoud come back this week. That is where Junior stays. * ** *Sally* ** -- Sally, Eric (not a cat),Junior, Speedy, Grey and White, Ittle Bitty, Little Black, Lily, Daisy, Silver, and Spike Visit my BB for some pictures post your as well. http://www.k6az.com/ki4spk/index.php?sid=c57c00cf5804ef13853ed6e77a68eed3 -- Sally, Eric (not a cat),Junior, Speedy, Grey and White, Ittle Bitty, Little Black, Lily, Daisy, Silver, and Spike Visit my BB for some pictures post your as well. http://www.k6az.com/ki4spk/index.php?sid=c57c00cf5804ef13853ed6e77a68eed3
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They can hitch hike. I repeatedly sprayed/dropped etc Ebony Thomas Katt for fleas. He was the only possible source of them coming into my homeuntil I looked at my dark clothes one day and saw one jump off. I was the source. You should have seen the I TOLD YOU SO look on Ebony's face. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Sally Davis To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2007 9:10 PM Subject: Re: fleas arh Susan, By the time I would be able to get the Capstar the advantage should have killed the fleas already on Junior. I find it works in 24 hours as well. Michael, I am not sure. Fleas can hitch hike on you, but I would think the risk is fairly small. I hate using chemicals indiscriminately or I would tell you to treat your lawn. That is where fleas multiply outside. Maybe a barrier at your doors of diatomaceous earth might be a good idea. Sally www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: Susan Dubose To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2007 8:51 PM Subject: Re: fleas arh Sally, Don't feel bad, fleas are particulairly devilish this year due to the rains. I would give Junoir a flea treatment, either Advantage or Frontline ( not revolution, doesn't seem to help much for fleas in my opinion). Once he is treated, the fleas should begin to die due to biting him. Probably should treat allof the kitties, tho. Maybe 3 months in a row. Wash his bedding, that's where most of the eggs are hanging out probably. Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: Sally Davis To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2007 8:30 PM Subject: fleas arh Ok folk I shouldn't panic but I found a few fleas on Junior. I combed out what I could. It was only 4 fleas and only a little flea dirt. However his vet last year told me it only takes one flea to cause Haemobartonella. Now that was a year ago b4 his Felv dx. He was not tested for Haemobartonella, but was put on antibiotics. I really think the anemia was from the FeLV infection stage. He was only treated with Baytril for a week, maybe it was two weeks. He has not had anemia since. Junior is pretty much on his own but occasionally Silver goes into his room. I am guessing that is where the flea(s) came from. I had not had fleas on my cats all summer, and yes I check them with a flea comb. This past week, I started seeing a few so, I have been treating that cats with Advantage. Junior just got this as well. I hope Junior will be ok. He is doing so well. Unfortunately I cannot spray or vacuum Erics room. He is in there 95% of the time due to COPD and possible polymyositis. His msucle biopsy shoud come back this week. That is where Junior stays. Sally -- Sally, Eric (not a cat),Junior, Speedy, Grey and White, Ittle Bitty, Little Black, Lily, Daisy, Silver, and Spike Visit my BB for some pictures post your as well. http://www.k6az.com/ki4spk/index.php?sid=c57c00cf5804ef13853ed6e77a68eed3 -- Sally, Eric (not a cat),Junior, Speedy, Grey and White, Ittle Bitty, Little Black, Lily, Daisy, Silver, and Spike Visit my BB for some pictures post your as well. http://www.k6az.com/ki4spk/index.php?sid=c57c00cf5804ef13853ed6e77a68eed3
