To Glenda: Re: Procrit
Glenda, I think Procrit is the same as Epogen, but not completely sure, and it can still be purchased. Usually when people use Procrit for their animals, it is the only thing left that will help the anemia, so they choose to save their animal rather than just let them go, and deal with any after effects later, if any. I didn't want you to think it's not something you can use in the future if one of your kitties needs it. Usually Prednisolone is used for anemia and maybe Winstrol. :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: glenda Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 4:52:57 PM Subject: Re: Typical course of a dying FELV kitty? long letter- sorry butplease indulge Wow! Thanks! I had the animal medical suppy place trying to find this stuff for me under iron supplements...no wonder they could not pull it up. I guess if my vet does not hurry and get back to me in the next hour I will be off to buy some human iron supplement. My cat Dingo does not do pills well at all, so will have to give with a dropper. He also has always been a dainty eater...can't stick it in tuna...He has really been turning his nose up lately and I am realizing I have an emergency on my hands...If it were not for this list I might not have noticed... Thanks, Pat, for setting me straight as to Procrit...Glenda --- Pat Kachur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have seen a lot of ads for Procrit - it is a drug used to help people undergoing chemo and whose white cells have been compromised. There are some lawsuits filed against the manufacturer from people who say they have been hurt by the drug. Come to think of it--haven't seen the ads for a couple of months after seeing them almost every day for a while. - Original Message - From: glenda Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 5:35 PM Subject: Re: Typical course of a dying FELV kitty? long letter- sorry butplease indulge Beckie, You are such a bright little light here and I feel so sad to know you are hurting and your sweet little Moeman might be fading away. You have learned a lot for the time you have been here. I know I have on just how to take care of our little guys better and signs to look for. I have been checking all my kittie's gums this morning and just like I suspected, my old guy, Dingo, he is 13 years old, and has seemed out of sorts lately, has very pale gums. He is not FeLV+ or FIV+ that I know of ,but I will have him tested and for now am trying to get a good iron supplement. I wrote down :Procrit ? Who was it that said they gave that to a kitty and it helped with the anemia? It was just in a recent post... I am asking my vet about what it is and can I have some right now... I just left a message for my vet...Anyway, thanks to these guys here, I know a lot more than I did a couple months ago. Do not give up fighting, but I do not believe in stressing our guys out either.I think you probably have a good idea where Moeman is at this point and if he is getting weaker and you have tried through supplements, etc. you have done all you can...just love him. I absolutely loved Jenna's letter to you. What a beautiful, thoughtful gift from her and her husband to share their experience with you...I will be keeping that letter for myself, for when I will be needing that precious support, that can only come from people who really understand... My heart is with you and Moeman...Glenda --- Jenna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: im so sorry beckie- i will keep you and moeman in my prayers. It feels odd to write about this now as my husband and i were crying remembering our beloved siamese calico lady. This is my experience and I hope it helps you. My baby died at home. That was important to me, and i wanted it that way though my husband was very caucious about it. I wanted her to be comfortable and not with people she was afraid of and being stressed out. I have seen people go kicking and screaming and while in trauma that might be more beneficial, in the case of terminal illness it makes it harder. So after that experience (this was with my grandmother) I told myself that if this happened with my animals- i wanted it to be gentle and peaceful. There is a line from the nbc show Heros where Peter the hospice nurse says, death can be beautiful, if you let it be. Though most may reject this statement because it is not something most want to think about, I can say that I do agree with it. It doesn't make it hurt less, but it made it easier for me to deal with. She stopped eating, and slept all the time. She didn't purr and did not want to be held.
Re: To Glenda: Re: Procrit
Let me clarify: Usually Prednisolone is used for anemia and maybe Winstrol after the initial diagnosis. If it doesn't work, then other drugs/procedures are considered. Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 8:04:08 PM Subject: To Glenda: Re: Procrit Glenda, I think Procrit is the same as Epogen, but not completely sure, and it can still be purchased. Usually when people use Procrit for their animals, it is the only thing left that will help the anemia, so they choose to save their animal rather than just let them go, and deal with any after effects later, if any. I didn't want you to think it's not something you can use in the future if one of your kitties needs it. Usually Prednisolone is used for anemia and maybe Winstrol. :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: glenda Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 4:52:57 PM Subject: Re: Typical course of a dying FELV kitty? long letter- sorry butplease indulge Wow! Thanks! I had the animal medical suppy place trying to find this stuff for me under iron supplements...no wonder they could not pull it up. I guess if my vet does not hurry and get back to me in the next hour I will be off to buy some human iron supplement. My cat Dingo does not do pills well at all, so will have to give with a dropper. He also has always been a dainty eater...can't stick it in tuna...He has really been turning his nose up lately and I am realizing I have an emergency on my hands...If it were not for this list I might not have noticed... Thanks, Pat, for setting me straight as to Procrit...Glenda --- Pat Kachur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have seen a lot of ads for Procrit - it is a drug used to help people undergoing chemo and whose white cells have been compromised. There are some lawsuits filed against the manufacturer from people who say they have been hurt by the drug. Come to think of it--haven't seen the ads for a couple of months after seeing them almost every day for a while. - Original Message - From: glenda Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 5:35 PM Subject: Re: Typical course of a dying FELV kitty? long letter- sorry butplease indulge Beckie, You are such a bright little light here and I feel so sad to know you are hurting and your sweet little Moeman might be fading away. You have learned a lot for the time you have been here. I know I have on just how to take care of our little guys better and signs to look for. I have been checking all my kittie's gums this morning and just like I suspected, my old guy, Dingo, he is 13 years old, and has seemed out of sorts lately, has very pale gums. He is not FeLV+ or FIV+ that I know of ,but I will have him tested and for now am trying to get a good iron supplement. I wrote down :Procrit ? Who was it that said they gave that to a kitty and it helped with the anemia? It was just in a recent post... I am asking my vet about what it is and can I have some right now... I just left a message for my vet...Anyway, thanks to these guys here, I know a lot more than I did a couple months ago. Do not give up fighting, but I do not believe in stressing our guys out either.I think you probably have a good idea where Moeman is at this point and if he is getting weaker and you have tried through supplements, etc. you have done all you can...just love him. I absolutely loved Jenna's letter to you. What a beautiful, thoughtful gift from her and her husband to share their experience with you...I will be keeping that letter for myself, for when I will be needing that precious support, that can only come from people who really understand... My heart is with you and Moeman...Glenda --- Jenna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: im so sorry beckie- i will keep you and moeman in my prayers. It feels odd to write about this now as my husband and i were crying remembering our beloved siamese calico lady. This is my experience and I hope it helps you. My baby died at home. That was important to me, and i wanted it that way though my husband was very caucious about it. I wanted her to be comfortable and not with people she was afraid of and being stressed out. I have seen people go kicking and screaming and while in trauma that might be more beneficial, in the case of terminal illness it makes it harder. So after that experience (this was with my grandmother) I told myself
Re: To Glenda: Re: Procrit
Wendy, Thank you! Anyway, I just picked up something called: LIXOTINIC,ODD LOTS (30ml) from my vet. It is supposed to be iron with vitamins, I think ? I am to give my cat 2ml once a day...I have a two week supply. I will have my cat go through the usual tests in the next couple weeks. I do want to say, I just shot the first dose down his throat and it went so fast he did not even know what happened. This is the cat that foams at the mouth when he is given a pill and 90% of the time manages to spit it out. I really like giving him things in liquid form with the syringe. Beckie might want to try something like this on Moe, just to make sure she is getting as much supplement as possible down him. I think she found pillpockets helpful, but nothing could beat what I just pulled on my cat Dingo, the pro at fighting off his meds...Glenda --- wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let me clarify: Usually Prednisolone is used for anemia and maybe Winstrol after the initial diagnosis. If it doesn't work, then other drugs/procedures are considered. Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 8:04:08 PM Subject: To Glenda: Re: Procrit Glenda, I think Procrit is the same as Epogen, but not completely sure, and it can still be purchased. Usually when people use Procrit for their animals, it is the only thing left that will help the anemia, so they choose to save their animal rather than just let them go, and deal with any after effects later, if any. I didn't want you to think it's not something you can use in the future if one of your kitties needs it. Usually Prednisolone is used for anemia and maybe Winstrol. :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: glenda Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 4:52:57 PM Subject: Re: Typical course of a dying FELV kitty? long letter- sorry butplease indulge Wow! Thanks! I had the animal medical suppy place trying to find this stuff for me under iron supplements...no wonder they could not pull it up. I guess if my vet does not hurry and get back to me in the next hour I will be off to buy some human iron supplement. My cat Dingo does not do pills well at all, so will have to give with a dropper. He also has always been a dainty eater...can't stick it in tuna...He has really been turning his nose up lately and I am realizing I have an emergency on my hands...If it were not for this list I might not have noticed... Thanks, Pat, for setting me straight as to Procrit...Glenda --- Pat Kachur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have seen a lot of ads for Procrit - it is a drug used to help people undergoing chemo and whose white cells have been compromised. There are some lawsuits filed against the manufacturer from people who say they have been hurt by the drug. Come to think of it--haven't seen the ads for a couple of months after seeing them almost every day for a while. - Original Message - From: glenda Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 5:35 PM Subject: Re: Typical course of a dying FELV kitty? long letter- sorry butplease indulge Beckie, You are such a bright little light here and I feel so sad to know you are hurting and your sweet little Moeman might be fading away. You have learned a lot for the time you have been here. I know I have on just how to take care of our little guys better and signs to look for. I have been checking all my kittie's gums this morning and just like I suspected, my old guy, Dingo, he is 13 years old, and has seemed out of sorts lately, has very pale gums. He is not FeLV+ or FIV+ that I know of ,but I will have him tested and for now am trying to get a good iron supplement. I wrote down :Procrit ? Who was it that said they gave that to a kitty and it helped with the anemia? It was just in a recent post... I am asking my vet about what it is and can I have some right now... I just left a message for my vet...Anyway, thanks to these guys here, I know a lot more than I did a couple months ago. Do not give up fighting, but I do not believe in stressing our guys out either.I think you probably have a good idea where Moeman is at this point and if he is getting weaker and you have tried through supplements, etc. you have done all you can...just love him. I absolutely loved Jenna's letter to you. What a beautiful, thoughtful gift from her
Re: To Glenda: Re: Procrit
Lixotinic is supposed to be pretty good stuff. Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: glenda Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 8:46 PM Subject: Re: To Glenda: Re: Procrit Wendy, Thank you! Anyway, I just picked up something called: LIXOTINIC,ODD LOTS (30ml) from my vet. It is supposed to be iron with vitamins, I think ? I am to give my cat 2ml once a day...I have a two week supply. I will have my cat go through the usual tests in the next couple weeks. I do want to say, I just shot the first dose down his throat and it went so fast he did not even know what happened. This is the cat that foams at the mouth when he is given a pill and 90% of the time manages to spit it out. I really like giving him things in liquid form with the syringe. Beckie might want to try something like this on Moe, just to make sure she is getting as much supplement as possible down him. I think she found pillpockets helpful, but nothing could beat what I just pulled on my cat Dingo, the pro at fighting off his meds...Glenda --- wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let me clarify: Usually Prednisolone is used for anemia and maybe Winstrol after the initial diagnosis. If it doesn't work, then other drugs/procedures are considered.