To Glenda: Re: Procrit

2007-08-24 Thread wendy
Glenda, 

I think Procrit is the same as Epogen, but not completely sure, and it can 
still be purchased.  Usually when people use Procrit for their animals, it is 
the only thing left that will help the anemia, so they choose to save their 
animal rather than just let them go, and deal with any after effects later, if 
any.  I didn't want you to think it's not something you can use in the future 
if one of your kitties needs it.  Usually Prednisolone is used for anemia and 
maybe Winstrol.

:)
Wendy 
 
Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the 
world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~


- Original Message 
From: glenda Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 4:52:57 PM
Subject: Re: Typical course of a dying FELV kitty? long letter- sorry butplease 
indulge


Wow! Thanks! I had the animal medical suppy place
trying to find this stuff for me under iron
supplements...no wonder they could not pull it up. I
guess if my vet does not hurry and get back to me in
the next hour I will be off to buy some human iron
supplement. My cat Dingo does not do pills well at
all, so will have to give with a dropper. He also has
always been a dainty eater...can't stick it in
tuna...He has really been turning his nose up lately
and I am realizing I have an emergency on my
hands...If it were not for this list I might not have
noticed...
Thanks, Pat, for setting me straight as to
Procrit...Glenda
--- Pat Kachur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have seen a lot of ads for Procrit - it is a drug
 used to help people 
 undergoing chemo and whose white cells have been
 compromised.  There are 
 some lawsuits filed against the manufacturer from
 people who say they have 
 been hurt by the drug.
 Come to think of it--haven't seen the ads for a
 couple of months after 
 seeing them almost every day for a while.
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: glenda Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 5:35 PM
 Subject: Re: Typical course of a dying FELV kitty?
 long letter- sorry 
 butplease indulge
 
 
  Beckie, You are such a bright little light here
 and I
  feel so sad to know you are hurting and your sweet
  little Moeman might be fading away. You have
 learned a
  lot for the time you have been here. I know I have
 on
  just how to take care of our little guys better
 and
  signs to look for. I have been checking all my
  kittie's gums this morning and just like I
 suspected,
  my old guy, Dingo, he is 13 years old, and has
 seemed
  out of sorts lately, has very pale gums. He is not
  FeLV+ or FIV+ that I know of ,but I will have him
  tested and for now am trying to get a good iron
  supplement. I wrote down :Procrit ? Who was it
 that
  said they gave that to a kitty and it helped with
 the
  anemia? It was just in a recent post... I am
 asking my
  vet about what it is and can I have some right
 now...
  I just left a message for my vet...Anyway, thanks
 to
  these guys here, I know a lot more than I did a
 couple
  months ago.
  Do not give up fighting, but I do not believe in
  stressing our guys out either.I think you probably
  have a good idea where Moeman is at this point and
 if
  he is getting weaker and you have tried through
  supplements, etc. you have done all you can...just
  love him.
  I absolutely loved Jenna's letter to you. What a
  beautiful, thoughtful gift from her and her
 husband to
  share their experience with you...I will be
 keeping
  that letter for myself, for when I will be needing
  that precious support, that can only come from
 people
  who really understand...
  My heart is with you and Moeman...Glenda
  --- Jenna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  im so sorry beckie- i will keep you and moeman in
 my
  prayers.
 
It feels odd to write about this now as my
 husband
  and i were crying remembering our beloved siamese
  calico lady. This is my experience and I hope it
  helps you.
 
My baby died at home. That was important to me,
  and i wanted it that way though my husband was
 very
  caucious about it. I wanted her to be comfortable
  and not with people she was afraid of and being
  stressed out. I have seen people go kicking and
  screaming and while in trauma that might be more
  beneficial, in the case of terminal illness it
 makes
  it harder. So after that experience (this was
 with
  my grandmother) I told myself that if this
 happened
  with my animals- i wanted it to be gentle and
  peaceful. There is a line from the nbc show Heros
  where Peter the hospice nurse says, death can be
  beautiful, if you let it be. Though most may
 reject
  this statement because it is not something most
 want
  to think about, I can say that I do agree with
 it.
  It doesn't make it hurt less, but it made it
 easier
  for me to deal with.
 
She stopped eating, and slept all the time. She
  didn't purr and did not want to be held. 

Re: To Glenda: Re: Procrit

2007-08-24 Thread wendy
Let me clarify:  Usually Prednisolone is used for anemia and maybe Winstrol 
after the initial diagnosis.  If it doesn't work, then other drugs/procedures 
are considered.

 
Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the 
world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~


- Original Message 
From: wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 8:04:08 PM
Subject: To Glenda: Re: Procrit


Glenda, 

I think Procrit is the same as Epogen, but not completely sure, and it can 
still be purchased.  Usually when people use Procrit for their animals, it is 
the only thing left that will help the anemia, so they choose to save their 
animal rather than just let them go, and deal with any after effects later, if 
any.  I didn't want you to think it's not something you can use in the future 
if one of your kitties needs it.  Usually Prednisolone is used for anemia and 
maybe Winstrol.

:)
Wendy 

Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the 
world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~


- Original Message 
From: glenda Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 4:52:57 PM
Subject: Re: Typical course of a dying FELV kitty? long letter- sorry butplease 
indulge


Wow! Thanks! I had the animal medical suppy place
trying to find this stuff for me under iron
supplements...no wonder they could not pull it up. I
guess if my vet does not hurry and get back to me in
the next hour I will be off to buy some human iron
supplement. My cat Dingo does not do pills well at
all, so will have to give with a dropper. He also has
always been a dainty eater...can't stick it in
tuna...He has really been turning his nose up lately
and I am realizing I have an emergency on my
hands...If it were not for this list I might not have
noticed...
Thanks, Pat, for setting me straight as to
Procrit...Glenda
--- Pat Kachur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have seen a lot of ads for Procrit - it is a drug
 used to help people 
 undergoing chemo and whose white cells have been
 compromised.  There are 
 some lawsuits filed against the manufacturer from
 people who say they have 
 been hurt by the drug.
 Come to think of it--haven't seen the ads for a
 couple of months after 
 seeing them almost every day for a while.
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: glenda Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 5:35 PM
 Subject: Re: Typical course of a dying FELV kitty?
 long letter- sorry 
 butplease indulge
 
 
  Beckie, You are such a bright little light here
 and I
  feel so sad to know you are hurting and your sweet
  little Moeman might be fading away. You have
 learned a
  lot for the time you have been here. I know I have
 on
  just how to take care of our little guys better
 and
  signs to look for. I have been checking all my
  kittie's gums this morning and just like I
 suspected,
  my old guy, Dingo, he is 13 years old, and has
 seemed
  out of sorts lately, has very pale gums. He is not
  FeLV+ or FIV+ that I know of ,but I will have him
  tested and for now am trying to get a good iron
  supplement. I wrote down :Procrit ? Who was it
 that
  said they gave that to a kitty and it helped with
 the
  anemia? It was just in a recent post... I am
 asking my
  vet about what it is and can I have some right
 now...
  I just left a message for my vet...Anyway, thanks
 to
  these guys here, I know a lot more than I did a
 couple
  months ago.
  Do not give up fighting, but I do not believe in
  stressing our guys out either.I think you probably
  have a good idea where Moeman is at this point and
 if
  he is getting weaker and you have tried through
  supplements, etc. you have done all you can...just
  love him.
  I absolutely loved Jenna's letter to you. What a
  beautiful, thoughtful gift from her and her
 husband to
  share their experience with you...I will be
 keeping
  that letter for myself, for when I will be needing
  that precious support, that can only come from
 people
  who really understand...
  My heart is with you and Moeman...Glenda
  --- Jenna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  im so sorry beckie- i will keep you and moeman in
 my
  prayers.
 
It feels odd to write about this now as my
 husband
  and i were crying remembering our beloved siamese
  calico lady. This is my experience and I hope it
  helps you.
 
My baby died at home. That was important to me,
  and i wanted it that way though my husband was
 very
  caucious about it. I wanted her to be comfortable
  and not with people she was afraid of and being
  stressed out. I have seen people go kicking and
  screaming and while in trauma that might be more
  beneficial, in the case of terminal illness it
 makes
  it harder. So after that experience (this was
 with
  my grandmother) I told myself

Re: To Glenda: Re: Procrit

2007-08-24 Thread glenda Goodman
Wendy, 
Thank you!
 Anyway, I just picked up something called:
LIXOTINIC,ODD LOTS (30ml) from my vet. It is supposed
to be iron with vitamins, I think ? I am to give my
cat 2ml once a day...I have a two week supply. I will
have my cat go through the usual tests in the next
couple weeks. I do want to say, I just shot the first
dose down his throat and it went so fast he did not
even know what happened. This is the cat that foams at
the mouth when he is given a pill and 90% of the time
manages to spit it out. I really like giving him
things in liquid form with the syringe. 
Beckie might want to try something like this on Moe,
just to make sure she is getting as much supplement as
possible down him. I think she found pillpockets
helpful, but nothing could beat what I just pulled on
my cat Dingo, the pro at fighting off his
meds...Glenda
--- wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Let me clarify:  Usually Prednisolone is used for
 anemia and maybe Winstrol after the initial
 diagnosis.  If it doesn't work, then other
 drugs/procedures are considered.
 
  
 Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful
 committed citizens can change the world - indeed it
 is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade
 ~~~
 
 
 - Original Message 
 From: wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 8:04:08 PM
 Subject: To Glenda: Re: Procrit
 
 
 Glenda, 
 
 I think Procrit is the same as Epogen, but not
 completely sure, and it can still be purchased. 
 Usually when people use Procrit for their animals,
 it is the only thing left that will help the anemia,
 so they choose to save their animal rather than just
 let them go, and deal with any after effects later,
 if any.  I didn't want you to think it's not
 something you can use in the future if one of your
 kitties needs it.  Usually Prednisolone is used for
 anemia and maybe Winstrol.
 
 :)
 Wendy 
 
 Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful
 committed citizens can change the world - indeed it
 is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade
 ~~~
 
 
 - Original Message 
 From: glenda Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 4:52:57 PM
 Subject: Re: Typical course of a dying FELV kitty?
 long letter- sorry butplease indulge
 
 
 Wow! Thanks! I had the animal medical suppy place
 trying to find this stuff for me under iron
 supplements...no wonder they could not pull it up. I
 guess if my vet does not hurry and get back to me in
 the next hour I will be off to buy some human iron
 supplement. My cat Dingo does not do pills well at
 all, so will have to give with a dropper. He also
 has
 always been a dainty eater...can't stick it in
 tuna...He has really been turning his nose up lately
 and I am realizing I have an emergency on my
 hands...If it were not for this list I might not
 have
 noticed...
 Thanks, Pat, for setting me straight as to
 Procrit...Glenda
 --- Pat Kachur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I have seen a lot of ads for Procrit - it is a
 drug
  used to help people 
  undergoing chemo and whose white cells have been
  compromised.  There are 
  some lawsuits filed against the manufacturer from
  people who say they have 
  been hurt by the drug.
  Come to think of it--haven't seen the ads for a
  couple of months after 
  seeing them almost every day for a while.
  
  
  - Original Message - 
  From: glenda Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 5:35 PM
  Subject: Re: Typical course of a dying FELV kitty?
  long letter- sorry 
  butplease indulge
  
  
   Beckie, You are such a bright little light here
  and I
   feel so sad to know you are hurting and your
 sweet
   little Moeman might be fading away. You have
  learned a
   lot for the time you have been here. I know I
 have
  on
   just how to take care of our little guys better
  and
   signs to look for. I have been checking all my
   kittie's gums this morning and just like I
  suspected,
   my old guy, Dingo, he is 13 years old, and has
  seemed
   out of sorts lately, has very pale gums. He is
 not
   FeLV+ or FIV+ that I know of ,but I will have
 him
   tested and for now am trying to get a good iron
   supplement. I wrote down :Procrit ? Who was it
  that
   said they gave that to a kitty and it helped
 with
  the
   anemia? It was just in a recent post... I am
  asking my
   vet about what it is and can I have some right
  now...
   I just left a message for my vet...Anyway,
 thanks
  to
   these guys here, I know a lot more than I did a
  couple
   months ago.
   Do not give up fighting, but I do not believe in
   stressing our guys out either.I think you
 probably
   have a good idea where Moeman is at this point
 and
  if
   he is getting weaker and you have tried through
   supplements, etc. you have done all you
 can...just
   love him.
   I absolutely loved Jenna's letter to you. What a
   beautiful, thoughtful gift from her

Re: To Glenda: Re: Procrit

2007-08-24 Thread Susan Dubose
Lixotinic is supposed to be pretty good stuff.


Susan J. DuBose  ^..^
www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com
www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org
www.shadowcats.net
  As Cleopatra lay in state,
   Faithful Bast at her side did wait,
   Purring welcomes of soft applause,
   Ever guarding with sharpened claws.
 Trajan Tennent




- Original Message - 
From: glenda Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 8:46 PM
Subject: Re: To Glenda: Re: Procrit


Wendy, 
Thank you!
 Anyway, I just picked up something called:
LIXOTINIC,ODD LOTS (30ml) from my vet. It is supposed
to be iron with vitamins, I think ? I am to give my
cat 2ml once a day...I have a two week supply. I will
have my cat go through the usual tests in the next
couple weeks. I do want to say, I just shot the first
dose down his throat and it went so fast he did not
even know what happened. This is the cat that foams at
the mouth when he is given a pill and 90% of the time
manages to spit it out. I really like giving him
things in liquid form with the syringe. 
Beckie might want to try something like this on Moe,
just to make sure she is getting as much supplement as
possible down him. I think she found pillpockets
helpful, but nothing could beat what I just pulled on
my cat Dingo, the pro at fighting off his
meds...Glenda
--- wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Let me clarify:  Usually Prednisolone is used for
 anemia and maybe Winstrol after the initial
 diagnosis.  If it doesn't work, then other
 drugs/procedures are considered.