Re: gave torb last night-helped alot

2005-06-14 Thread catatonya
Kristi,
 
I'm glad the torb helped.  You are right.  You'll both know when the time is right.  
 
tonya[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
i gave him torb 1mg last night (for some relief of his discomfort and mild sedation)and it defiantely helped with his jitteriness. she said i could do 2 mg if i wanted, but prepared me that it might in turn help him pass. that would have been ok, but here we are this morning and he just had a taste of some junk canned food, and his favrite food ever- purina one kitten soaked with a little warm water and topped with tuna flavored "cat dressing". don't ask how i found that recipe out as his favorite- you all understand how "we" are. Maybe tonight won't be the right time either- i'm not planning it anymore- i've learned my lesson, when he and i are ready we'll know and then it won't be such a tormenting descision to make. Anyway i'm debating on giving him more- he looks comfortable but i'll be gone for a long day of work (10-6)- what to do, what to do these times are always so
 tough.Thank you for bearing with me everyone he's only my 2nd leukemia to get this sick, the other if you remeber was Tai-Tai she had a PCV of less than 8 and was turning blue because she couldn't get enough oxygen- so that was a different type of descision-much easier- she was obviously suffering and in need of help to pass. KristiFrom: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: 2005/06/14 Tue AM 08:10:53 EDTTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: yes-got injectionsI understand. What you are saying makes sense now. It is bad that he is not responding at all to the dex. I am really sorry. If you have not reached the vet, oral valium, if you have any in the house, can calm them in their last stages. I have given a whole human dose pill before, in the very end stages. I think it acts sort of like morphine-- calms and also makes the passing faster. As a warning, though, no vet
 has ever advised me to do this. I have done it on my own.MichelleIn a message dated 6/13/05 9:59:52 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:thanx michelle- sorry i was unclear- yes he did get dex & depo. he actually got dex 2 x today. my vet wanted me to do it every 12 hrs. he will have a third injection tomorrow morning. the fact that he has actually gotten worse even with the injections on board is why my bfriend and I haved decided on tomorrow night, actually since i wrote about the descision about tomorrow night he has gotten increasingly uncomfortable and is starting to look slightly distressed, i was just about to call the vet at her home and ask if i could give him something slightyl sedative.

Re: gave torb last night-helped alot

2005-06-14 Thread Lernermichelle



Kristi,
   I think it is the dex making him hungry, not the torbutrol. 
While torbutrol helps with pain, I really do not think it increases appetite. I 
could be wrong. But that is a classic sign of dex doing something. I would 
definitely do another dex shot on the schedule recommended by your vet, and do a 
depo shot if you haven't yet. I am glad he is more comfortable, whatever time he 
has left.
Michelle
 


Re: gave torb last night-helped alot

2005-06-14 Thread Belinda Sauro

  Hi,
  How much food is he getting, I think I missed most of this thread, 
but from the last few messages I've read, I don't see any mention of any 
real amount of food.  What is wrong with him, what has he been diagnosed 
with, what tests has he had?  Has he had tests to diagnose cancer or 
something, I've been working onso many things, I don't recall his story?


One thing is for sure without food he has 0 chance of surviving, if he 
isn't eating on his onw, then you have to assist him, whether that means 
syringe feeding him or inserting an e-tube.


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Re: gave torb last night-helped alot

2005-06-14 Thread Gloria Lane
I'm so glad!  They can pop back when you least expect it!  Best of  
luck, I know it's hard.  Gloria



On Jun 14, 2005, at 7:50 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


i gave him torb 1mg last night (for some relief of his discomfort  
and mild sedation)and it defiantely helped with his jitteriness.   
she said i could do 2 mg if i wanted, but prepared me that it might  
in turn help him pass. that would have been ok, but here we are  
this morning and he just had a taste of some junk canned food, and  
his favrite food ever- purina one kitten soaked with a little warm  
water and topped with tuna flavored "cat dressing".  don't ask how  
i found that recipe out as his favorite- you all understand how  
"we" are.  Maybe tonight won't be the right time either- i'm not  
planning it anymore- i've learned my lesson, when he and i are  
ready we'll know and then it won't be such a tormenting descision  
to make. Anyway i'm debating on giving him more- he looks  
comfortable but i'll be gone for a long day of work (10-6)- what to  
do, what to do these times are always so tough.


Thank you for bearing with me everyone he's only my 2nd leukemia to  
get this sick, the other if you remeber was Tai-Tai she had a PCV  
of less than 8 and was turning blue because she couldn't get enough  
oxygen- so that was a different type of descision-much easier- she  
was obviously suffering and in need of help to pass. Kristi


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2005/06/14 Tue AM 08:10:53 EDT
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: yes-got injections


I understand.  What you are saying makes sense now.  It is bad   
that he is
not responding at all to the dex.  I am really sorry.   If  you  
have not reached
the vet, oral valium, if you have any in the  house, can calm them  
in their
last stages.  I have given a whole human dose  pill before, in the  
very end
stages. I think it acts sort of like morphine--  calms and also  
makes the passing
faster. As a warning, though, no vet has ever  advised me to do  
this. I have

done it on my own.
Michelle


In a message dated 6/13/05 9:59:52 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

thanx  michelle- sorry i was unclear- yes he did get dex & depo.  he
actually got dex 2 x today. my vet wanted me to do it every 12  
hrs.  he  will have a
third injection tomorrow morning.  the fact that he has  actually  
gotten worse
even with the injections on board is why my bfriend and  I haved  
decided on
tomorrow night, actually since i wrote about the descision  about  
tomorrow
night he has gotten increasingly uncomfortable and is starting  to  
look slightly
distressed, i was just about to call the vet at her home and  ask  
if i could

give him something slightyl  sedative.















gave torb last night-helped alot

2005-06-14 Thread ferozar01
i gave him torb 1mg last night (for some relief of his discomfort and mild 
sedation)and it defiantely helped with his jitteriness.  she said i could do 2 
mg if i wanted, but prepared me that it might in turn help him pass. that would 
have been ok, but here we are this morning and he just had a taste of some junk 
canned food, and his favrite food ever- purina one kitten soaked with a little 
warm water and topped with tuna flavored "cat dressing".  don't ask how i found 
that recipe out as his favorite- you all understand how "we" are.  Maybe 
tonight won't be the right time either- i'm not planning it anymore- i've 
learned my lesson, when he and i are ready we'll know and then it won't be such 
a tormenting descision to make. Anyway i'm debating on giving him more- he 
looks comfortable but i'll be gone for a long day of work (10-6)- what to do, 
what to do these times are always so tough.

Thank you for bearing with me everyone he's only my 2nd leukemia to get this 
sick, the other if you remeber was Tai-Tai she had a PCV of less than 8 and was 
turning blue because she couldn't get enough oxygen- so that was a different 
type of descision-much easier- she was obviously suffering and in need of help 
to pass. Kristi

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2005/06/14 Tue AM 08:10:53 EDT
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: yes-got injections

 
I understand.  What you are saying makes sense now.  It is bad  that he is 
not responding at all to the dex.  I am really sorry.   If  you have not 
reached 
the vet, oral valium, if you have any in the  house, can calm them in their 
last stages.  I have given a whole human dose  pill before, in the very end 
stages. I think it acts sort of like morphine--  calms and also makes the 
passing 
faster. As a warning, though, no vet has ever  advised me to do this. I have 
done it on my own.
Michelle
 
 
In a message dated 6/13/05 9:59:52 PM Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

thanx  michelle- sorry i was unclear- yes he did get dex & depo.  he  
actually got dex 2 x today. my vet wanted me to do it every 12 hrs.  he  will 
have a 
third injection tomorrow morning.  the fact that he has  actually gotten worse 
even with the injections on board is why my bfriend and  I haved decided on 
tomorrow night, actually since i wrote about the descision  about tomorrow 
night he has gotten increasingly uncomfortable and is starting  to look 
slightly 
distressed, i was just about to call the vet at her home and  ask if i could 
give him something slightyl  sedative.