RE: groundhog

2006-07-24 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
Title: Message




Love 
the picture you paint of Mr Groundhog, Phaewryn--if you ever get the chance 
please post us a pic of him kicking back on his patio!
Kerry

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I have a "pet" groundhog here in my yard. They are really cool passive and 
peaceful creatures. I built a house over his hole (no bottom on the house), and 
put a concrete slab out in front. He likes to stretch out on his "patio" now. 
He's really cute. He does eat my plants, but I don't mind, he deserves to be 
here just as much as I do. The cats are fascinated by him, but they all co-exist 
peacefully. I've been considering buying some rabbit food, to supplement his 
diet of grass and flowers. Anyways, they are cool animals, and I'm sure you did 
everything you could for the one you found. Roads are horrible, especially 
highways and interstates that cross natural wildlife corridors. Millions of 
animals die on our roads every year. It's very sad. I never speed, in hopes that 
if any animals run out in front of me that I can stop quickly enough. I've ran 
over about 4 in my driving history, one was a little Pomeranian dog (I was 
speeding, and I vowed to never speed again), the rest were wildlife animals. It 
is very heartbreaking. 
 
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Re: groundhog

2006-07-24 Thread Amy Wilkins
Groundhogs are one of my favorite animals and people
think I'm crazy.  They are hilarious to watch.  I
would love to be able to have something like this in
my yard!

Amy

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> Yeah, he did have a mound of dirt. See, what
> happened was: He had dug his den out under our old
> propane tank, so the entrance was covered because it
> was under the tank. We had a new tank put in at a
> different location, and then we had the old tank
> removed. This left a bare patch of ground with a big
> gaping groundhog mound and den. SO... I took a
> garden rake, and I leveled out the mound as best I
> could, carefully avoiding his hole, then I made the
> bottomless (well it's actually 3-sided with a
> saltbox roof) house, and I sat that down over the
> hole, then I kinda pressed it down into the loose
> soil, and then I re-leveled around the house. I then
> dug out a rectangle in the front of his house, and
> set in a masonry brick as a concrete "patio". He
> likes to stretch out on his new patio, but no, I've
> never seen him up on the roof of the house. I don't
> think he's quite that athletic, to be honest, he's
> fat and has pretty short legs, and the roof is over
> a foot off the ground. I do have video of him on his
> patio, I'm not sure how good the quality will be
> once I upload it as a still image though. I need to
> put some grass seed out on the bare ground around
> his house, when it rains, the dirt splatters up on
> the walls of the house, it looks pretty filthy now.
> 
> Phaewryn
> 
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> http://ucat.us/adopt.html 
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Re: groundhog

2006-07-23 Thread felv



Yeah, he did have a mound of dirt. See, what happened was: He had dug his 
den out under our old propane tank, so the entrance was covered because it was 
under the tank. We had a new tank put in at a different location, and then we 
had the old tank removed. This left a bare patch of ground with a big gaping 
groundhog mound and den. SO... I took a garden rake, and I leveled out the mound 
as best I could, carefully avoiding his hole, then I made the bottomless (well 
it's actually 3-sided with a saltbox roof) house, and I sat that down over the 
hole, then I kinda pressed it down into the loose soil, and then I re-leveled 
around the house. I then dug out a rectangle in the front of his house, and set 
in a masonry brick as a concrete "patio". He likes to stretch out on his new 
patio, but no, I've never seen him up on the roof of the house. I don't think 
he's quite that athletic, to be honest, he's fat and has pretty short legs, and 
the roof is over a foot off the ground. I do have video of him on his patio, I'm 
not sure how good the quality will be once I upload it as a still image though. 
I need to put some grass seed out on the bare ground around his house, when it 
rains, the dirt splatters up on the walls of the house, it looks pretty filthy 
now.
Phaewryn
 
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Re: groundhog

2006-07-23 Thread Tad Burnett




The average groundhog has a big mound of dirt from his diggings
and often will be seen on top of that for a look around... Will this 
one climb on top of his house to look around ???  Like a Snoopy dog..
That will make the picture
Tad

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  LOL, Well, I guess I need to get some pictures of groundhog
heaven for you guys. I was going to stencil the house and put up a
silly road sign with something like "Groundhog Lane" on it, but I got
lazy, maybe I'll get out there and do it next weekend if it's not
raining.
  
Phaewryn
   
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Re: groundhog

2006-07-23 Thread felv



LOL, Well, I guess I need to get some pictures of groundhog heaven for you 
guys. I was going to stencil the house and put up a silly road sign with 
something like "Groundhog Lane" on it, but I got lazy, maybe I'll get out there 
and do it next weekend if it's not raining.
Phaewryn
 
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Re: groundhog

2006-07-23 Thread Roxane Baldwin
This is the coolest thing I've ever heard of!  Makes me want to have one aroundl : )     Roxane[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  I have a "pet" groundhog here in my yard. They are really cool passive and peaceful creatures. I built a house over his hole (no bottom on the house), and put a concrete slab out in front. He likes to stretch out on his "patio" now. He's really cute.  
	
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Re: groundhog

2006-07-22 Thread ETrent




ok - the groundhog house is about the neatest thing I've ever heard!  
Chez Phaewryn is a very cool place to be :0)
 
elizabeth
 
In a message dated 7/22/2006 8:33:03 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  I have a "pet" groundhog here in my yard. They are really cool passive 
  and peaceful creatures. I built a house over his hole (no bottom on the 
  house), and put a concrete slab out in front. He likes to stretch out on his 
  "patio" now. He's really cute. He does eat my plants, but I don't mind, he 
  deserves to be here just as much as I do. The cats are fascinated by him, but 
  they all co-exist peacefully. I've been considering buying some rabbit food, 
  to supplement his diet of grass and flowers. Anyways, they are cool animals, 
  and I'm sure you did everything you could for the one you found. Roads are 
  horrible, especially highways and interstates that cross natural wildlife 
  corridors. Millions of animals die on our roads every year. It's very sad. I 
  never speed, in hopes that if any animals run out in front of me that I can 
  stop quickly enough. I've ran over about 4 in my driving history, one was a 
  little Pomeranian dog (I was speeding, and I vowed to never speed again), the 
  rest were wildlife animals. It is very heartbreaking. 
   
  Phaewryn
   
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Re: groundhog

2006-07-22 Thread felv



I have a "pet" groundhog here in my yard. They are really cool passive and 
peaceful creatures. I built a house over his hole (no bottom on the house), and 
put a concrete slab out in front. He likes to stretch out on his "patio" now. 
He's really cute. He does eat my plants, but I don't mind, he deserves to be 
here just as much as I do. The cats are fascinated by him, but they all co-exist 
peacefully. I've been considering buying some rabbit food, to supplement his 
diet of grass and flowers. Anyways, they are cool animals, and I'm sure you did 
everything you could for the one you found. Roads are horrible, especially 
highways and interstates that cross natural wildlife corridors. Millions of 
animals die on our roads every year. It's very sad. I never speed, in hopes that 
if any animals run out in front of me that I can stop quickly enough. I've ran 
over about 4 in my driving history, one was a little Pomeranian dog (I was 
speeding, and I vowed to never speed again), the rest were wildlife animals. It 
is very heartbreaking. 
 
Phaewryn
 
PLEASE Adopt a cat from Little Cheetah Cat Rescue!!!http://ucat.us/adopt.html 
 
DONATE: We could really use a power saw (for construction), a digital 
camera (for pictures) and HOMES for CATS! 
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Re: groundhog

2006-07-16 Thread Marylyn



If you do check with the various Humane Society 
websites on where you shot an animal.  There are various places on each 
animal that is more kind than others.  Quite literally a bullet will bounce 
off the skull of some, causing more pain.  Believe it or not, there are 
guidelines showing where to shoot.  
 
I still can't believe the 
vets 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
If you have men who will exclude any of God's 
creatures 
from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who 
 
will deal likewise with their fellow 
man.  
St. Francis

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  catatonya 
  
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  
  Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 1:02 AM
  Subject: Re: groundhog
  
  Michelle,
   
  I'm sorry about both of these losses.  I've been in similar 
  circumstances with wildlife.  I'm actually considering getting a gun to 
  put an animal out of its misery and I HATE guns.
   
  t[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:
  

This is not about a cat, but with Gray gone I feel I want to tell 
people who will understand, and ask you to pray if there is a reason to pray 
when someone is gone. Today while I was driving on a highway the car in the 
front of me hit a groundhog. It happened a few feet in front of me. The 
groundhog's back end was hurt, but he or she dragged herself off the road 
and into the woods, down a ravine, and was trying to get around. I went into 
the woods after her, and she collapsed. I picked the groundhog up with a 
towel and put her in my car, and proceeded to make about 20 phone calls to 
vets and wildlife rehabilitators. No vets would help, all the rehabbers had 
answering machines saying they were full, and after about a half hour the 
groundhog died in my car.  I brought him/her back to woods near where 
he or she lived, and put her under a tree there. It was so awful. I feel so 
sad, and I feel bad that if the groundhog was going to die, it had to be in 
my car rather than in the woods where it felt safe.  So if  you 
pray for those who have died, please add this groundhog to your prayers. And 
for the living, my friend Stephanie's dog Gunnar, a 12 year old shephard who 
had a really really hard life before she adopted him 2 years ago, who is 
having very sudden and serious neurological problems that have been 
diagnosed as encephalitis, and he is not responding to medications thus far. 
And of course Lucy, who goes up and down like a yo yo, and is not feeling so 
good right now.
Thanks,
Michelle
  
  

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Re: groundhog

2006-07-16 Thread catatonya
Michelle,     I'm sorry about both of these losses.  I've been in similar circumstances with wildlife.  I'm actually considering getting a gun to put an animal out of its misery and I HATE guns.     t[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  This is not about a cat, but with Gray gone I feel I want to tell people who will understand, and ask you to pray if there is a reason to pray when someone is gone. Today while I was driving on a highway the car in the front of me hit a groundhog. It happened a few feet in front of me. The groundhog's back end was hurt, but he or she dragged herself off the road and into the woods, down a ravine, and was trying to get around. I went
 into the woods after her, and she collapsed. I picked the groundhog up with a towel and put her in my car, and proceeded to make about 20 phone calls to vets and wildlife rehabilitators. No vets would help, all the rehabbers had answering machines saying they were full, and after about a half hour the groundhog died in my car.  I brought him/her back to woods near where he or she lived, and put her under a tree there. It was so awful. I feel so sad, and I feel bad that if the groundhog was going to die, it had to be in my car rather than in the woods where it felt safe.  So if  you pray for those who have died, please add this groundhog to your prayers. And for the living, my friend Stephanie's dog Gunnar, a 12 year old shephard who had a really really hard life before she adopted him 2 years ago, who is having very sudden and serious neurological problems that have been diagnosed as encephalitis, and he is not responding to medications thus far. And of
 course Lucy, who goes up and down like a yo yo, and is not feeling so good right now.  Thanks,  Michelle

Re: groundhog

2006-07-15 Thread PEC2851



Michelle,
I have found that finally being able to participate has really helped 
me...Helps get me over the depression This group is so wonderful & 
supportive.  All of you have been so very kind and supportive of me, and I 
thank you all.
Remember, you deserve BIG thanks for aiding that poor groundhog!
Love,
Patti
PS _ My prayers are still with your Lucy.


Re: groundhog

2006-07-15 Thread Lernermichelle




No, I didn't.  I do always feel a little bad that you seem to think I 
am such a stress case. I mean, I am sometimes, but I think we all are when our 
babies are unwell.  I don't really think I am more than others on this 
list. And I certainly have seen a whole lot of death in my life, and in the past 
5 years have lost 9 animals. So I am not sure I need to see any more death to 
learn whatever I am supposed to learn about it. But I appreciate your sentiments 
that whatever happens is what was meant to be, for some reason or other.  
And I do appreciate your support, and did not mean at all that you are a goof 
ball. :)
Michelle
 
In a message dated 7/15/2006 1:45:41 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Did you 
  mean to say, Thanks Nina, you goof ball? :-) 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

Thanks, Nina.

 


Re: groundhog

2006-07-15 Thread Lernermichelle




That's awful, Belinda. Most vets will not touch wild animals, especially 
ones that can carry rabies. I am not sure if it is illegal here in NJ for 
regular vets to treat wildlife? I know that my local vet in MA, while not a 
great vet, was always willing to see if he could do something for any kind of 
animal, including wild animals. And I once found a vet on a road where I was 
driving who took a bird that I had found on the road and gave some meds to get 
it out of shock so i could get it to a rehabber, and had offered to rehab the 
bird himself if that did not work out. Actually, that was in NJ. I think it just 
depends on the vet. You know if we on this list were vets, we would be open 24 
hours a day taking in everyone on earth!
Michelle
 
In a message dated 7/15/2006 1:57:05 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The vet 
  thing also disturbs me, what are these doctors thinking??   The 
  rehabbers are always hard to get a hold of, I remember one time I heard a 
  coyote in the woods behind the houses across the road from me, It was crying 
  and I just knew it was trapped.  I called all the rehabbers and animal 
  control, animal control would do nothing and the rehabbers all had answering 
  machines on.  None of them ever got back to me.   I 
  never did find it and the crying stopped so I don't know what happened to 
  it.

 


Re: groundhog

2006-07-15 Thread Lernermichelle




Thanks so much, Patti, and that's so great about the bunny.  I can't 
believe how much you are able to be supportive, given what you have gone through 
yourself lately. You are such an inspiration.
Michelle
 
In a message dated 7/15/2006 6:13:48 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Michelle,
  What a wonderful thing you did for that poor little creature!  And, 
  I totally agree, the vets should be ashamed of themselves...I mean, don't they 
  take the same oath as people Dr.s to "save all"?
  Out here in the country, we are loaded with rednecks & hooligans that 
  will purposely run over, sometimes even veering OFF the road, whatever living 
  creature is in their path.  One time I got a license number of some guy 
  who purposely hit an animal, and when I called the police here, they wouldn't 
  do a damn thing!
  I was just telling Nina today about the baby (wild) rabbit I took in 
  before my accident.  After talking more to Dennis this PM, I found out 
  that it's mother was dead and so I took it in & nursed it...
  Of course, it grew and was MUCH better while I was hospitalized so Dennis 
  released it.  Now, every time I see a bunny in my yard I wonder "Is that 
  MY baby?"  I am so glad I did intervene though. And, the rehabs would not 
  touch a small baby
  Prayers for the groundhog, Lucy & Gunnar.
  Hugs,
  Patti

 


Re: groundhog

2006-07-15 Thread PEC2851



Michelle,
What a wonderful thing you did for that poor little creature!  And, I 
totally agree, the vets should be ashamed of themselves...I mean, don't they 
take the same oath as people Dr.s to "save all"?
Out here in the country, we are loaded with rednecks & hooligans that 
will purposely run over, sometimes even veering OFF the road, whatever living 
creature is in their path.  One time I got a license number of some guy who 
purposely hit an animal, and when I called the police here, they wouldn't do a 
damn thing!
I was just telling Nina today about the baby (wild) rabbit I took in before 
my accident.  After talking more to Dennis this PM, I found out that it's 
mother was dead and so I took it in & nursed it...
Of course, it grew and was MUCH better while I was hospitalized so Dennis 
released it.  Now, every time I see a bunny in my yard I wonder "Is that MY 
baby?"  I am so glad I did intervene though. And, the rehabs would not 
touch a small baby
Prayers for the groundhog, Lucy & Gunnar.
Hugs,
Patti


Re: groundhog

2006-07-15 Thread Belinda




 Michelle,
   Never doubt that animals know our thoughts and intentions, that
groundhog knew you were trying to help her and appreciated it.  Yes
dying in the woods would have been a natural event for her but you
showed her a side to humans she would otherwise not have known, that
many do care about other living creatures.  What you did was a
compassionate, loving act for another living creature and that kind of
gesture is always appreciated.   And you did take her body back to her
home in the end so you did all you could possibly do.

The vet thing also disturbs me, what are these doctors thinking??   The
rehabbers are always hard to get a hold of, I remember one time I heard
a coyote in the woods behind the houses across the road from me, It was
crying and I just knew it was trapped.  I called all the rehabbers and
animal control, animal control would do nothing and the rehabbers all
had answering machines on.  None of them ever got back to me.  
I never did find it and the crying stopped so I don't know what
happened to it.
-- 

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Re: groundhog

2006-07-15 Thread Nina




Did you mean to say, Thanks Nina, you goof ball?  :-) 

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  Thanks, Nina.
  




Re: groundhog

2006-07-15 Thread Lernermichelle



Thanks, Nina.


Re: groundhog

2006-07-15 Thread ETrent




This had to have been heart-wrenching, Michelle.  Thank you for caring 
about this precious creature.  It really does make a difference.
 
Prayers going up for the groundhog, Gunnar, Lucy and you.
 
elizabeth
 
In a message dated 7/14/2006 9:56:50 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  This is not about a cat, but with Gray gone I feel I want to tell people 
  who will understand, and ask you to pray if there is a reason to pray when 
  someone is gone. Today while I was driving on a highway the car in the front 
  of me hit a groundhog. It happened a few feet in front of me. The groundhog's 
  back end was hurt, but he or she dragged herself off the road and into the 
  woods, down a ravine, and was trying to get around. I went into the woods 
  after her, and she collapsed. I picked the groundhog up with a towel and put 
  her in my car, and proceeded to make about 20 phone calls to vets and wildlife 
  rehabilitators. No vets would help, all the rehabbers had answering machines 
  saying they were full, and after about a half hour the groundhog died in my 
  car.  I brought him/her back to woods near where he or she lived, and put 
  her under a tree there. It was so awful. I feel so sad, and I feel bad that if 
  the groundhog was going to die, it had to be in my car rather than in the 
  woods where it felt safe.  So if  you pray for those who have died, 
  please add this groundhog to your prayers. And for the living, my friend 
  Stephanie's dog Gunnar, a 12 year old shephard who had a really really hard 
  life before she adopted him 2 years ago, who is having very sudden and serious 
  neurological problems that have been diagnosed as encephalitis, and he is not 
  responding to medications thus far. And of course Lucy, who goes up and down 
  like a yo yo, and is not feeling so good right now.
  Thanks,
  Michelle

 


Re: groundhog

2006-07-15 Thread Nina
I should have worded that last sentence, "we can't *always* change the 
world, we can always choose to change the way we view it".  I do believe 
we can change the world.  People like those on this list allow me to 
believe that.

Nina

Nina wrote:


Oh Michelle,
What a terrible thing to have happen!  Don't second guess yourself 
about whether you did the right thing, (the vet's are the ones that 
should be ashamed of themselves).  I know you sometimes consider me 
wacky, (heck, I sometimes consider myself wacky), but I don't believe 
in "accidents" and I think you were there to help that poor groundhog 
transition.  Love and consideration are felt, even through pain and 
fear, you WERE a help to him, be sure of that.  I also think you are 
dealing with the difficult lesson of accepting death as part of life, 
(as we all are).  That groundhog gave you the gift of sharing his 
transition with you to force you to once again face that death is 
inevitable, and that no matter how we cross, it's the way we live our 
lives that matter.  I think part of that experience, (so dreadful!), 
was to help you once again face the fact that we all die and to 
cherish the moments we spend with our loved ones without dwelling on 
the when/why of our passing.  I know it's easier said than done, but 
you make yourself sick with worry with what is and isn't in your power 
to control.  Please try to make a conscious effort to let go of the 
anxiety and strife that is created by that struggle.  We can't change 
the world, we can only change the way we view it.

Blessings and love to you,
Nina






Re: groundhog

2006-07-15 Thread Nina




Oh Michelle,
What a terrible thing to have happen!  Don't second guess yourself
about whether you did the right thing, (the vet's are the ones that
should be ashamed of themselves).  I know you sometimes consider me
wacky, (heck, I sometimes consider myself wacky), but I don't believe
in "accidents" and I think you were there to help that poor groundhog
transition.  Love and consideration are felt, even through pain and
fear, you WERE a help to him, be sure of that.  I also think you are
dealing with the difficult lesson of accepting death as part of life,
(as we all are).  That groundhog gave you the gift of sharing his
transition with you to force you to once again face that death is
inevitable, and that no matter how we cross, it's the way we live our
lives that matter.  I think part of that experience, (so dreadful!),
was to help you once again face the fact that we all die and to cherish
the moments we spend with our loved ones without dwelling on the
when/why of our passing.  I know it's easier said than done, but you
make yourself sick with worry with what is and isn't in your power to
control.  Please try to make a conscious effort to let go of the
anxiety and strife that is created by that struggle.  We can't change
the world, we can only change the way we view it.
Blessings and love to you,
Nina


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
  
  
  This is not about a cat, but with Gray gone I feel I want to
tell people who will understand, and ask you to pray if there is a
reason to pray when someone is gone. Today while I was driving on a
highway the car in the front of me hit a groundhog. It happened a few
feet in front of me. The groundhog's back end was hurt, but he or she
dragged herself off the road and into the woods, down a ravine, and was
trying to get around. I went into the woods after her, and she
collapsed. I picked the groundhog up with a towel and put her in my
car, and proceeded to make about 20 phone calls to vets and wildlife
rehabilitators. No vets would help, all the rehabbers had answering
machines saying they were full, and after about a half hour the
groundhog died in my car.  I brought him/her back to woods near where
he or she lived, and put her under a tree there. It was so awful. I
feel so sad, and I feel bad that if the groundhog was going to die, it
had to be in my car rather than in the woods where it felt safe.  So
if  you pray for those who have died, please add this groundhog to your
prayers. And for the living, my friend Stephanie's dog Gunnar, a 12
year old shephard who had a really really hard life before she adopted
him 2 years ago, who is having very sudden and serious neurological
problems that have been diagnosed as encephalitis, and he is not
responding to medications thus far. And of course Lucy, who goes up and
down like a yo yo, and is not feeling so good right now.
  Thanks,
  Michelle
  




Re: groundhog

2006-07-15 Thread wendy
Michelle,

I have never heard of anyone trying to save a
groundhog!  What an animal lover you are!  And how
sweet of you to do that.  I wouldn't have known what
to do.  I am sorry that you and the groundhog had to
go through that.  I know it must have been hard.  But
maybe the groundhog knew you were trying to help. 
Don't beat yourself up; you were trying to do what was
right.  Prayers going out for all of your concerns
today.

:)
Wendy

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> This is not about a cat, but with Gray gone I feel I
> want to tell people  who 
> will understand, and ask you to pray if there is a
> reason to pray when  
> someone is gone. Today while I was driving on a
> highway the car in the front of  me 
> hit a groundhog. It happened a few feet in front of
> me. The groundhog's back  
> end was hurt, but he or she dragged herself off the
> road and into the woods,  
> down a ravine, and was trying to get around. I went
> into the woods after her, 
>  and she collapsed. I picked the groundhog up with a
> towel and put her in my 
> car,  and proceeded to make about 20 phone calls to
> vets and wildlife 
> rehabilitators.  No vets would help, all the
> rehabbers had answering machines saying 
> they were  full, and after about a half hour the
> groundhog died in my car.  I 
> brought  him/her back to woods near where he or she
> lived, and put her under a 
> tree  there. It was so awful. I feel so sad, and I
> feel bad that if the 
> groundhog was  going to die, it had to be in my car
> rather than in the woods where 
> it felt  safe.  So if  you pray for those who have
> died, please add this  
> groundhog to your prayers. And for the living, my
> friend Stephanie's dog Gunnar,  a 
> 12 year old shephard who had a really really hard
> life before she adopted him 
>  2 years ago, who is having very sudden and serious
> neurological problems 
> that  have been diagnosed as encephalitis, and he is
> not responding to 
> medications  thus far. And of course Lucy, who goes
> up and down like a yo yo, and is not 
>  feeling so good right now.
> Thanks,
> Michelle
> 


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Re: groundhog

2006-07-15 Thread Kerry Roach
Michelle,  Sorry to hear about the little guy...I would have done the same thing.  I think you did the right thing and he wasn't alone.       Kerry and Bandy 
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Re: groundhog

2006-07-15 Thread Sherry DeHaan
THank you for your prayers and all are in my prayers too.  Sherry[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  This is not about a cat, but with Gray gone I feel I want to tell people who will understand, and ask you to pray if there is a reason to pray when someone is gone. Today while I was driving on a highway the car in the front of me hit a groundhog. It happened a few feet in front of me. The groundhog's back end was hurt, but he or she dragged herself off the road and into the woods, down a ravine, and was trying to get around. I went into the woods after her, and she collapsed. I picked the groundhog up with a towel and put her in my car, and proceeded to make about 20 phone calls to vets and wildlife rehabilitators. No
 vets would help, all the rehabbers had answering machines saying they were full, and after about a half hour the groundhog died in my car.  I brought him/her back to woods near where he or she lived, and put her under a tree there. It was so awful. I feel so sad, and I feel bad that if the groundhog was going to die, it had to be in my car rather than in the woods where it felt safe.  So if  you pray for those who have died, please add this groundhog to your prayers. And for the living, my friend Stephanie's dog Gunnar, a 12 year old shephard who had a really really hard life before she adopted him 2 years ago, who is having very sudden and serious neurological problems that have been diagnosed as encephalitis, and he is not responding to medications thus far. And of course Lucy, who goes up and down like a yo yo, and is not feeling so good right now.  Thanks,  Michelle 
	
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Re: groundhog

2006-07-15 Thread Marylyn



There is a wonderful song at www.andiesisle.com/Calling_All_Angels.html  My holistic vet sent the Royal Princess Kitty Katt drops with 
Calling All Angels essence in them when she was ready to leave this world and 
told me about it when she sent a card after Kitty left.  I Googled it and 
this song came up.  It has helped me more than I can tell you.  I am 
sending it now to the group.  So many of us are having extreme times.  
Please pass it on to Gunner's person.  Assure her that Gunner loves 
her and knows how much she loves him.  He is very grateful to finally be 
with someone who cares.  
 
As far as the ground hog is concerned:  Had he been left in the woods 
alone and injured he could have met a much more painful end.  He would have 
been terrified unless he made it to his den.  You did every thing you could 
do for him.  And he knows it and is grateful you returned his body to his 
land. I can not believe that no vet would help you.  The rehabbers I 
understand.  Most of them are volunteers and frequently are not available 
but a vet should have at least been able to help the groundhog on his 
journey.  That is extremely upsetting.  
 
 
 
 
 
 
If you have men who will exclude any of God's 
creatures 
from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who 
 
will deal likewise with their fellow 
man.  
St. Francis

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  
  Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 11:55 
PM
  Subject: groundhog
  
  This is not about a cat, but with Gray gone I feel I want to tell people 
  who will understand, and ask you to pray if there is a reason to pray when 
  someone is gone. Today while I was driving on a highway the car in the front 
  of me hit a groundhog. It happened a few feet in front of me. The groundhog's 
  back end was hurt, but he or she dragged herself off the road and into the 
  woods, down a ravine, and was trying to get around. I went into the woods 
  after her, and she collapsed. I picked the groundhog up with a towel and put 
  her in my car, and proceeded to make about 20 phone calls to vets and wildlife 
  rehabilitators. No vets would help, all the rehabbers had answering machines 
  saying they were full, and after about a half hour the groundhog died in my 
  car.  I brought him/her back to woods near where he or she lived, and put 
  her under a tree there. It was so awful. I feel so sad, and I feel bad that if 
  the groundhog was going to die, it had to be in my car rather than in the 
  woods where it felt safe.  So if  you pray for those who have died, 
  please add this groundhog to your prayers. And for the living, my friend 
  Stephanie's dog Gunnar, a 12 year old shephard who had a really really hard 
  life before she adopted him 2 years ago, who is having very sudden and serious 
  neurological problems that have been diagnosed as encephalitis, and he is not 
  responding to medications thus far. And of course Lucy, who goes up and down 
  like a yo yo, and is not feeling so good right now.
  Thanks,
  Michelle
  
  

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groundhog

2006-07-14 Thread Lernermichelle



This is not about a cat, but with Gray gone I feel I want to tell people 
who will understand, and ask you to pray if there is a reason to pray when 
someone is gone. Today while I was driving on a highway the car in the front of 
me hit a groundhog. It happened a few feet in front of me. The groundhog's back 
end was hurt, but he or she dragged herself off the road and into the woods, 
down a ravine, and was trying to get around. I went into the woods after her, 
and she collapsed. I picked the groundhog up with a towel and put her in my car, 
and proceeded to make about 20 phone calls to vets and wildlife rehabilitators. 
No vets would help, all the rehabbers had answering machines saying they were 
full, and after about a half hour the groundhog died in my car.  I brought 
him/her back to woods near where he or she lived, and put her under a tree 
there. It was so awful. I feel so sad, and I feel bad that if the groundhog was 
going to die, it had to be in my car rather than in the woods where it felt 
safe.  So if  you pray for those who have died, please add this 
groundhog to your prayers. And for the living, my friend Stephanie's dog Gunnar, 
a 12 year old shephard who had a really really hard life before she adopted him 
2 years ago, who is having very sudden and serious neurological problems that 
have been diagnosed as encephalitis, and he is not responding to medications 
thus far. And of course Lucy, who goes up and down like a yo yo, and is not 
feeling so good right now.
Thanks,
Michelle