Re: integration

2006-09-25 Thread Gina WN
Hi Susan,I'm one of the novices :) Our kitten Pippin tested a faint positive on the ELISA test back in June. She will be gettingher second test (IFA) on October 12th. She is 5 months and 2 weeks old.My husband and Ihave four cats. Tigger and Taylor are 13 years old and are brother and sister. They had a feral mother and we rescued them at appx. 7 days of age. Bob is 8 years old. He chose us; he came to our door one day when he was about 10 weeks old. Weanswered an online ad for kittens and chosePippin (but I really think she chose us!)We took Pippin to the vet the same day we adopted her, andfound outthat shewas positive for FeLV. I asked the vet if there was an alternative to having her put down. The vet suggested keeping her water, food and litter separate until we had her
 tested a second time. However, I wondered what was going to be the alternative at that point if she tested positive again? I really panicked (cried and cried) and stayed up most of the night researching FeLV. I wasn't pleased with what I read for the most part.And then, happily, I found this group! :) It gave me hope for Pippin's futureand I started thinking maybe she could be adopted if she was positive. That lasted a few days and I realized that no way could I let her go. She was/is my baby, just like my other cats. So, when I saw that some of the people on this list have been mixing their cats with success, I approached my husband with the idea of having Tigger, Taylor and Bob vaccinated for Feline Leukemia and letting Pippin integrate. He was all for it. So that's what we have done. We are getting the second
 test just to see if Pippin is still positive so that we can give her the care she will need. Right now Pippin is on Innova Evo and takes L-lysine. She appears to be very healthy and we hope she can throw off the virus.Our cats have a website if you want to read more about them; it's called Tigger Tales.Gina  Placerville, CA  Visit my Tigger Tales site! 
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Re: integration

2006-09-25 Thread Watsdadillyo



I only have one baby Crackers. He is 5 and FELV positive. I lost Pokies 3 
weeks ago.
kayte


Re: integration

2006-09-25 Thread wendy
Hey Susan,

I have ten cats, four in the house, and six outside. 
Of the six outside, two live in the garage full time. 
Three come and go; they have other families to attend
to as well.  ;)  And one doesn't like other cats, so
she lives down the street.  LOL.  So I guess I care
for six full time, three part time, and one not at
all, but she's still wearing our phone number on her
name tag and the people who feed her know she has a
home.

:)
Wendy 

--- Susan Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 As you already know, I have two - girls (Kelly 16
 and Meagan 8).  Gunnar (for now) tested ELISA +,
 with a retest scheduled for December 1.

   The girls have their second vaccination this
 Tuesday night.  Tanya said to wait an additional two
 weeks after that.

   So let me ask you all this:

   The girls know Gunnar exists.  We've brought him
 up in his carrier to spend time with the family. 
 There's been a bit of mild hissing and a few paw
 slaps.  We also have a cage for Gunnar, since he's
 just a young guy and might need to be contained for
 a bit - especially when no one is home.

   Please let me have your suggestions and hints as
 how to finally get them all together.  I KNOW THAT
 YOU CAN ONLY MAKE ONE GOOD FIRST IMPRESSION.  I
 don't want to cause permanent harm or resentment by
 introducing them incorrectly.  And I certainly don't
 want any fighting!   You guys have all been there,
 so your successes and mistakes would help us all.

   By the by, can we take a short poll??  How many
 cats do some of you actually take care of??

   God bless all of you and your furry friends.  And
 remember: God doesn't make mistakes.  You're all
 together for a reason.  It's just a matter of time
 to find out your reason for living.  My reason is
 taking care and loving my two sisters, Kelly and
 Meagan, and now being here for Gunnar.  We got Kelly
 at the Chicago Anti-Cruelty Socienty in 1992.  We
 chose her.  We got Meagan at the Chicago Ridge
 Humane Society in 1999 - she showed us her Dracula
 fangs like Kelly has and I knew she was the one. 
 Gunnar, however, was DELIVERED to us like a Domino's
 pizza - God sent him ringing our doorbell.  It
 didn't matter that I didn't order him and it
 didn't matter what toppings he had - God wanted
 him to live in this house.  P.S.  Gunnar also has
 Dracula fangs like the girls, so I knew that was
 my sign - God just saved me an adoption fee!   ;D

   I look forward to hearing from all of you.  I've
 said it before and I'll say it again - when it comes
 to experts, it's YOU guys.  Not the so-called
 experts, and not the vets.  I'll trust what you
 tell me over any vet any day.

   Keep up the good work, and keep the faith!!

   Susan F.
   Chicago
 


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Re: integration

2006-09-25 Thread Susan Franklin
God bless you, Wendy!



 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 9/25/06 3:46:51 PM 
Hey Susan,

I have ten cats, four in the house, and six outside. 
Of the six outside, two live in the garage full time. 
Three come and go; they have other families to attend
to as well.  ;)  And one doesn't like other cats, so
she lives down the street.  LOL.  So I guess I care
for six full time, three part time, and one not at
all, but she's still wearing our phone number on her
name tag and the people who feed her know she has a
home.

:)
Wendy 

--- Susan Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 As you already know, I have two - girls (Kelly 16
 and Meagan 8).  Gunnar (for now) tested ELISA +,
 with a retest scheduled for December 1.

   The girls have their second vaccination this
 Tuesday night.  Tanya said to wait an additional two
 weeks after that.

   So let me ask you all this:

   The girls know Gunnar exists.  We've brought him
 up in his carrier to spend time with the family. 
 There's been a bit of mild hissing and a few paw
 slaps.  We also have a cage for Gunnar, since he's
 just a young guy and might need to be contained for
 a bit - especially when no one is home.

   Please let me have your suggestions and hints as
 how to finally get them all together.  I KNOW THAT
 YOU CAN ONLY MAKE ONE GOOD FIRST IMPRESSION.  I
 don't want to cause permanent harm or resentment by
 introducing them incorrectly.  And I certainly don't
 want any fighting!   You guys have all been there,
 so your successes and mistakes would help us all.

   By the by, can we take a short poll??  How many
 cats do some of you actually take care of??

   God bless all of you and your furry friends.  And
 remember: God doesn't make mistakes.  You're all
 together for a reason.  It's just a matter of time
 to find out your reason for living.  My reason is
 taking care and loving my two sisters, Kelly and
 Meagan, and now being here for Gunnar.  We got Kelly
 at the Chicago Anti-Cruelty Socienty in 1992.  We
 chose her.  We got Meagan at the Chicago Ridge
 Humane Society in 1999 - she showed us her Dracula
 fangs like Kelly has and I knew she was the one. 
 Gunnar, however, was DELIVERED to us like a Domino's
 pizza - God sent him ringing our doorbell.  It
 didn't matter that I didn't order him and it
 didn't matter what toppings he had - God wanted
 him to live in this house.  P.S.  Gunnar also has
 Dracula fangs like the girls, so I knew that was
 my sign - God just saved me an adoption fee!   ;D

   I look forward to hearing from all of you.  I've
 said it before and I'll say it again - when it comes
 to experts, it's YOU guys.  Not the so-called
 experts, and not the vets.  I'll trust what you
 tell me over any vet any day.

   Keep up the good work, and keep the faith!!

   Susan F.
   Chicago
 


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Re: integration

2006-09-25 Thread Watsdadillyo



I cried my eyes out too a few weeks ago when I found out Crackers was FELV 
POS. Pippin is adorable. I was oo upset thinking OH no!! Crackers is dying!! I 
have learned more Info from this group then anywhere. This group is the 
best...they can tell you how it feels and goes and not just outta a text book. 
Much love and kisses
kayte and Crackers


integration

2006-09-24 Thread Susan Franklin
As you already know, I have two - girls (Kelly 16 and Meagan 8). Gunnar (for now) tested ELISA +, with a retest scheduled for December 1.The girls have their second vaccination this Tuesday night. Tanya said to wait an additional two weeks after that.So let me ask you all this:The girls know Gunnar exists. We've brought him up in his carrier to spend time with the family. There's been a bit of mild hissing and a few paw slaps. We also have a cage for Gunnar, since he's just a young guy and might need to be contained for a bit - especially when no one is home.Please let me have your suggestions and hints as how to finally get them all together. I KNOW THAT YOU CAN ONLY MAKE ONE GOOD FIRST IMPRESSION. I don't want to cause permanent harm or resentment by introducing them incorrectly. And I
 certainly don't want any fighting! You guys have all been there, so your successes and mistakes would help us all.By the by, can we take a short poll?? How many cats do some of you actually take care of??God bless all of you and your furry friends. And remember: God doesn't make mistakes. You're all together for a reason. It's just a matter of time to find out your reason for living. My reason is taking care and loving my two "sisters," Kelly and Meagan, and now being here for Gunnar.We got Kelly at the Chicago Anti-Cruelty Socienty in 1992. We chose her. We got Meagan at the Chicago Ridge Humane Society in 1999 - she showed us her "Dracula fangs" like Kelly has and I knew she was the one. Gunnar, however, was DELIVERED to us like a Domino's pizza - God sent him ringing our doorbell. It didn't matter that I didn't "order" him and
 it didn't matter what "toppings" he had - God wanted him to live in this house. P.S. Gunnar also has "Dracula fangs" like the girls, so I knew that was my sign - God just saved me an adoption fee! ;DI look forward to hearing from all of you. I've said it before and I'll say it again - when it comes toexperts, it's YOU guys. Not the so-called"experts," and not the vets. I'll trust what you tell me over any vet any day.Keep up the good work, and keep the faith!!Susan F.  Chicago

integration

2006-09-24 Thread Peggy Ankney








To answer Susans questions:



We have 3 cats: 2 negatives and one pos. The pos just came to us last week so were
still novices and learning. But as
far as integration goes, we didnt really do anything special. We really didnt have to since we
arent worried about stressing our healthy cats, and Scooter seems
comfortable here so theres not a problem in keeping him away from the
others and gradually introducing him into the household. One cat (the oldest) was chosen by me,
while the other two were strays that picked us probably because they knew they
would be cared for. When Karma came
to the house about 7 years ago, she and Montana hissed at
each other awhile but learned to tolerate one another. Theyve never gotten friendly enough
to sleep curled together or groom each other, and on some (rare) occasions one
will take a swipe at the other in passing.
Now that we have a third, we integrated him by letting him in the house
(no cages) and so far, except for some hissing at the food bowls, its
been fine. Scooter (FeLV+) can tell that hes third in the hierarchy and
walks carefully when Karma is in the house but otherwise seems perfectly comfortable.
The negatives can come and go using
the cat door, so they arent all three in the house together 24/7 which
probably helps keep the peace. 








Re: integration

2006-09-24 Thread Evan Dee




We've got ten little ones - only our most recent addition, Smokey, is
Felv+. To date, he has a "private suite". We recently altered the door
to allow for a flexiglass lower panel so he can see the other cats but
not actually make contact with. The upper half of the door we screened
in. We're hoping this helps make him feel a little bit more a part of
the household . We're still struggling with the decision on whether or
not to integrate with our negatives.

~ Evan
Susan Franklin wrote:

  
  As you already know, I have two - girls (Kelly 16 and Meagan
8). Gunnar (for now) tested ELISA +, with a retest scheduled for
December 1.
  
  The girls have their second vaccination this Tuesday night.
Tanya said to wait an additional two weeks after that.
  
  So let me ask you all this:
  
  The girls know Gunnar exists. We've brought him up in his
carrier to spend time with the family. There's been a bit of mild
hissing and a few paw slaps. We also have a cage for Gunnar, since
he's just a young guy and might need to be contained for a bit -
especially when no one is home.
  
  Please let me have your suggestions and hints as how to finally
get them all together. I KNOW THAT YOU CAN ONLY MAKE ONE GOOD FIRST
IMPRESSION. I don't want to cause permanent harm or resentment by
introducing them incorrectly. And I certainly don't want any
fighting! You guys have all been there, so your successes and
mistakes would help us all.
  
  By the by, can we take a short poll?? How many cats do some of
you actually take care of??
  
  God bless all of you and your furry friends. And remember: God
doesn't make mistakes. You're all together for a reason. It's just a
matter of time to find out your reason for living. My reason is taking
care and loving my two "sisters," Kelly and Meagan, and now being here
for Gunnar.We got Kelly at the Chicago Anti-Cruelty Socienty in
1992. We chose her. We got Meagan at the Chicago Ridge Humane Society
in 1999 - she showed us her "Dracula fangs" like Kelly has and I knew
she was the one. Gunnar, however, was DELIVERED to us like a Domino's
pizza - God sent him ringing our doorbell. It didn't matter that I
didn't "order" him and it didn't matter what "toppings" he had - God
wanted him to live in this house. P.S. Gunnar also has "Dracula
fangs" like the girls, so I knew that was my sign - God just saved me
an adoption fee! ;D
  
  I look forward to hearing from all of you. I've said it before
and I'll say it again - when it comes toexperts, it's YOU guys. Not
the so-called"experts," and not the vets. I'll trust what you tell me
over any vet any day.
  
  Keep up the good work, and keep the faith!!
  
  Susan F.
  Chicago







Re: integration

2006-09-24 Thread Susan Franklin
I totally understand.  But if you haven't already, read the archives on
this site.  These folks - especially catatonya (my fave) - mix and have
had no problems.  I anguished over this, but these people helped me lose
my fear.  In two weeks, I will be mixing.



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Re: integration

2006-09-24 Thread Susan Franklin
Thank you!

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International Patent Group
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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/24/06 15:15 PM 
To answer Susan's questions:
 
We have 3 cats: 2 negatives and one pos.  The pos just came to us last
week so we're still novices and learning.  But as far as integration
goes, we didn't really do anything special.  We really didn't have to
since we aren't worried about stressing our healthy cats, and Scooter
seems comfortable here so there's not a problem in keeping him away from
the others and gradually introducing him into the household.  One cat
(the oldest) was chosen by me, while the other two were strays that
picked us probably because they knew they would be cared for.  When
Karma came to the house about 7 years ago, she and Montana hissed at
each other awhile but learned to tolerate one another.  They've never
gotten friendly enough to sleep curled together or groom each other, and
on some (rare) occasions one will take a swipe at the other in passing.
Now that we have a third, we integrated him by letting him in the house
(no cages) and so far, except for some hissing at the food bowls, it's
been fine.  Scooter (FeLV+) can tell that he's third in the hierarchy
and walks carefully when Karma is in the house but otherwise seems
perfectly comfortable.  The negatives can come and go using the cat
door, so they aren't all three in the house together 24/7 which probably
helps keep the peace. 

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Re: integration

2006-09-24 Thread Susan Franklin
Thank you!

Susan M. Franklin  
Legal Assistant
International Patent Group
WALLENSTEIN  WAGNER, LTD.
311 South Wacker Drive - 5300
Chicago, IL  60606 (USA)
Telephone: 312-554-3300
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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/24/06 15:15 PM 
To answer Susan's questions:
 
We have 3 cats: 2 negatives and one pos.  The pos just came to us last
week so we're still novices and learning.  But as far as integration
goes, we didn't really do anything special.  We really didn't have to
since we aren't worried about stressing our healthy cats, and Scooter
seems comfortable here so there's not a problem in keeping him away from
the others and gradually introducing him into the household.  One cat
(the oldest) was chosen by me, while the other two were strays that
picked us probably because they knew they would be cared for.  When
Karma came to the house about 7 years ago, she and Montana hissed at
each other awhile but learned to tolerate one another.  They've never
gotten friendly enough to sleep curled together or groom each other, and
on some (rare) occasions one will take a swipe at the other in passing.
Now that we have a third, we integrated him by letting him in the house
(no cages) and so far, except for some hissing at the food bowls, it's
been fine.  Scooter (FeLV+) can tell that he's third in the hierarchy
and walks carefully when Karma is in the house but otherwise seems
perfectly comfortable.  The negatives can come and go using the cat
door, so they aren't all three in the house together 24/7 which probably
helps keep the peace. 

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