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Help...I need your help. I keep sending messages to the email address I have(shown above) and they seem to fall off the face of the earth...can you help me by replying with the e-mail address you use
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P.S. I kept playing around with the address and I believe I got it right. Thanks anyway
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Yes, I got all 3 of your messages Karolyn. (So frustrating when messages don't go thru!) Kerry - Original Message - From: Karolyn Lount [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2005 3:37 AM Subject: Re: laser toy P.S. I kept playing around with the address and I believe I got it right. Thanks anyway
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They do not fall off the face of the Earth...other people get them, but you sometimes will not...go figure, I have been having big time issues with the emailing and I have just decided to wait it out and hopefully it will fix itself, just like it messed itself up...I use the same address above also, and sometimes I do not see my own emails... CherieKarolyn Lount [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Help...I need your help. I keep sending messages to the email address Ihave(shown above) and they seem to fall off the face of the earth...canyou help me by replying with the e-mail address you useHave a purrfect day Cherie
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Just for the record, they considered me their witchat least Ebony did. All black cats need a good witch. He came to live with me when he was 3 + years old (no way of really telling). Blood and pus ran down my legs from the wounds he had. I got him fixed up and, for some unknown reason, he refused to move on. I didn't like cats. I didn't want a cat. I particularly did not want a wild cat that no one could handle and he was very wild. In fact he hissed at me for over a year if I came within 5 feet of him. However, I could never let an animal go without medical attention or food so I was stuck. I learned later that he picked the only house in the neighborhood with central air. He discovered I was a witch when he saw me open a can of cat food then confirmed his belief when he discovered what was in the gigantic white box in the kitchen--all sorts of good food. The first time he saw me open a can he up his hands on the handle to the oven and stretched his neck to the point I thought it would break (hence the name E T Katt. Of course E T had to stand for something and what better than Ebony Thomas Katt). He also pronounced me the world's greatest hunter when I fixed turkey breasts for him. If that was the size of the sparrow's breast, he didn't really care to see the sparrow. He just left that up to his humble servant. If he wanted it, he got it. He trained my two dogs, Mai Mai, at 60 lbs, and Allie Beagle, at 30 lbs, to stay on one half of the bench seat in a Jeep while he occupied the entire other half. Ebony died 16 years later, on New Year's Eve night, in my arms. This is just to set the record straight. Ebony would tell you his Mom was a beautiful cat that taught him how to hunt and survive in the alleys of a city where people shot at cats and beat them with brooms and where they live 2-3 years if they are lucky. She certainly was not some strange looking 2 legged thing that didn't have beautiful fur and looked a lot like his tormentors. If you missed it, which is highly unlikely, I grew to adore this loving spirit. He left almost 7 years ago but he has never really left. He just changed forms. I am extremely grateful for the lessons he taught me then and the ones I am still learning from him. MiTu was his little queen and a truly gentle soul. I miss her too. - Original Message - From: Kerry MacKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2005 12:35 AM Subject: Re: laser toy That's hilarious too! What a wonderful image--2 kits sitting on a stool in front of the TV waiting for mom to switch it on! - Original Message - From: maimaipg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 3:29 PM Subject: Re: laser toy Ebony and MiTu would sit on the stool in front of the TV when they wanted me to play the video for them. Ebony would wake me up, make sure I was awake then sit on the stool so I understood exactly what he wanted. They loved the video and couldn't get enough. I just had to make sure there was nothing breakable on top of the TV. - Original Message - From: MacKenzie, Kerry N. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 12:26 PM Subject: laser toy Glad someone mentioned the laser toy--I do use it occasionally because it's the one thing that never fails to get my 2 quarantined cats moving. But the reason I only use it occasionally is that I worry about the frustration element-they think there's something to catch but they can never succeed. Ditto those cat videos showing birds etc, with all the sound effects. I used to play them, but worried about the cats becoming depressed. I'd love to hear other opinions. Is there any reliable info out there on how chasing intangible objects affects cats? If I thought they were really ok, I'd use them more often. Kerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barb Moermond Sent: Monday, September 05, 2005 2:51 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Bandy and supplements I would be cautious in using laser pointers as toys - I know they love it and I bring mine out a couple times a year, but it can make some kitties go a little nuts. One of the clinic cats where I take my boys lost it after having played with the laser toy and kept looking for the red dot to the point she was attacking other kitties. No more lasers and she was on meds for a while but is OK now. Just something to keep in mind! --- maimaipg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My alternative vet recommends transfer factor and MacroForce for boosting the immune system. The active ingredient in Macro Force is available in other brands. This just happens to be the easiest to get in my area of the country. She also uses laser
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what a wonderful story and I can sure tell why you miss him! You were both fortunate that he found you! --- maimaipg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just for the record, they considered me their witchat least Ebony did. All black cats need a good witch. He came to live with me when he was 3 + years old (no way of really telling). Blood and pus ran down my legs from the wounds he had. I got him fixed up and, for some unknown reason, he refused to move on. I didn't like cats. I didn't want a cat. I particularly did not want a wild cat that no one could handle and he was very wild. In fact he hissed at me for over a year if I came within 5 feet of him. However, I could never let an animal go without medical attention or food so I was stuck. I learned later that he picked the only house in the neighborhood with central air. He discovered I was a witch when he saw me open a can of cat food then confirmed his belief when he discovered what was in the gigantic white box in the kitchen--all sorts of good food. The first time he saw me open a can he up his hands on the handle to the oven and stretched his neck to the point I thought it would break (hence the name E T Katt. Of course E T had to stand for something and what better than Ebony Thomas Katt). He also pronounced me the world's greatest hunter when I fixed turkey breasts for him. If that was the size of the sparrow's breast, he didn't really care to see the sparrow. He just left that up to his humble servant. If he wanted it, he got it. He trained my two dogs, Mai Mai, at 60 lbs, and Allie Beagle, at 30 lbs, to stay on one half of the bench seat in a Jeep while he occupied the entire other half. Ebony died 16 years later, on New Year's Eve night, in my arms. This is just to set the record straight. Ebony would tell you his Mom was a beautiful cat that taught him how to hunt and survive in the alleys of a city where people shot at cats and beat them with brooms and where they live 2-3 years if they are lucky. She certainly was not some strange looking 2 legged thing that didn't have beautiful fur and looked a lot like his tormentors. If you missed it, which is highly unlikely, I grew to adore this loving spirit. He left almost 7 years ago but he has never really left. He just changed forms. I am extremely grateful for the lessons he taught me then and the ones I am still learning from him. MiTu was his little queen and a truly gentle soul. I miss her too. - Original Message - From: Kerry MacKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2005 12:35 AM Subject: Re: laser toy That's hilarious too! What a wonderful image--2 kits sitting on a stool in front of the TV waiting for mom to switch it on! - Original Message - From: maimaipg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 3:29 PM Subject: Re: laser toy Ebony and MiTu would sit on the stool in front of the TV when they wanted me to play the video for them. Ebony would wake me up, make sure I was awake then sit on the stool so I understood exactly what he wanted. They loved the video and couldn't get enough. I just had to make sure there was nothing breakable on top of the TV. - Original Message - From: MacKenzie, Kerry N. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 12:26 PM Subject: laser toy Glad someone mentioned the laser toy--I do use it occasionally because it's the one thing that never fails to get my 2 quarantined cats moving. But the reason I only use it occasionally is that I worry about the frustration element-they think there's something to catch but they can never succeed. Ditto those cat videos showing birds etc, with all the sound effects. I used to play them, but worried about the cats becoming depressed. I'd love to hear other opinions. Is there any reliable info out there on how chasing intangible objects affects cats? If I thought they were really ok, I'd use them more often. Kerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barb Moermond Sent: Monday, September 05, 2005 2:51 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Bandy and supplements I would be cautious in using laser pointers as toys - I know they love it and I bring mine out a couple times a year, but it can make some kitties go a little nuts. One of the clinic cats where I take my boys lost it after having played with the laser toy and kept looking for the red dot to the point she was attacking other kitties. No more lasers and she was on meds for a while but is OK now. Just something to keep in mind! --- maimaipg [EMAIL
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That's hilarious too! What a wonderful image--2 kits sitting on a stool in front of the TV waiting for mom to switch it on! - Original Message - From: maimaipg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 3:29 PM Subject: Re: laser toy Ebony and MiTu would sit on the stool in front of the TV when they wanted me to play the video for them. Ebony would wake me up, make sure I was awake then sit on the stool so I understood exactly what he wanted. They loved the video and couldn't get enough. I just had to make sure there was nothing breakable on top of the TV. - Original Message - From: MacKenzie, Kerry N. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 12:26 PM Subject: laser toy Glad someone mentioned the laser toy--I do use it occasionally because it's the one thing that never fails to get my 2 quarantined cats moving. But the reason I only use it occasionally is that I worry about the frustration element-they think there's something to catch but they can never succeed. Ditto those cat videos showing birds etc, with all the sound effects. I used to play them, but worried about the cats becoming depressed. I'd love to hear other opinions. Is there any reliable info out there on how chasing intangible objects affects cats? If I thought they were really ok, I'd use them more often. Kerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barb Moermond Sent: Monday, September 05, 2005 2:51 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Bandy and supplements I would be cautious in using laser pointers as toys - I know they love it and I bring mine out a couple times a year, but it can make some kitties go a little nuts. One of the clinic cats where I take my boys lost it after having played with the laser toy and kept looking for the red dot to the point she was attacking other kitties. No more lasers and she was on meds for a while but is OK now. Just something to keep in mind! --- maimaipg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My alternative vet recommends transfer factor and MacroForce for boosting the immune system. The active ingredient in Macro Force is available in other brands. This just happens to be the easiest to get in my area of the country. She also uses laser (as has me use a regular laser pointer) on various points on the cat's body. It acts sort of like acupuncture. You would have to get someone to show you the points or try to figure it out from the internet. Keep the light out of the eyes. But enjoy running the light in circles around the cat. Mine love to chase the little red dot they can't catch. For $20 it is a wonderful toy even if you can't figure the alternative med stuff out. It stimulates their interest and gives them exercise that has to help their morale. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, September 05, 2005 10:11 AM Subject: Re: Bandy and supplements I do not think that any supplements will help with the anemia directly unless it is iron anemia, which is very rare in cats and probably is not the case with him. I would put him on 500 mg per day of Lysine, split into two doses, and a multi-vitamin supplement (like Pet Tinic, which does have iron) and maybe switch on and off between echinacea and astragalus every week. I would mix them into baby food twice per day in small doses and let him eat them. People also rave about Transfer Factor, which I have not tried yet, so maybe that as well. I would start with one at a time so if he does not want to eat the baby food you will know which supplement he does not like. Michelle Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. - Anonymous __ Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. http://store.yahoo.com/redcross-donate3/ hr IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayer should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular
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Glad someone mentioned the laser toy--I do use it occasionally because it's the one thing that never fails to get my 2 quarantined cats moving. But the reason I only use it occasionally is that I worry about the frustration element-they think there's something to catch but they can never succeed. Ditto those cat videos showing birds etc, with all the sound effects. I used to play them, but worried about the cats becoming depressed. I'd love to hear other opinions. Is there any reliable info out there on how chasing intangible objects affects cats? If I thought they were really ok, I'd use them more often. Kerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barb Moermond Sent: Monday, September 05, 2005 2:51 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Bandy and supplements I would be cautious in using laser pointers as toys - I know they love it and I bring mine out a couple times a year, but it can make some kitties go a little nuts. One of the clinic cats where I take my boys lost it after having played with the laser toy and kept looking for the red dot to the point she was attacking other kitties. No more lasers and she was on meds for a while but is OK now. Just something to keep in mind! --- maimaipg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My alternative vet recommends transfer factor and MacroForce for boosting the immune system. The active ingredient in Macro Force is available in other brands. This just happens to be the easiest to get in my area of the country. She also uses laser (as has me use a regular laser pointer) on various points on the cat's body. It acts sort of like acupuncture. You would have to get someone to show you the points or try to figure it out from the internet. Keep the light out of the eyes. But enjoy running the light in circles around the cat. Mine love to chase the little red dot they can't catch. For $20 it is a wonderful toy even if you can't figure the alternative med stuff out. It stimulates their interest and gives them exercise that has to help their morale. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, September 05, 2005 10:11 AM Subject: Re: Bandy and supplements I do not think that any supplements will help with the anemia directly unless it is iron anemia, which is very rare in cats and probably is not the case with him. I would put him on 500 mg per day of Lysine, split into two doses, and a multi-vitamin supplement (like Pet Tinic, which does have iron) and maybe switch on and off between echinacea and astragalus every week. I would mix them into baby food twice per day in small doses and let him eat them. People also rave about Transfer Factor, which I have not tried yet, so maybe that as well. I would start with one at a time so if he does not want to eat the baby food you will know which supplement he does not like. Michelle Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. - Anonymous __ Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. http://store.yahoo.com/redcross-donate3/ hr IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayer should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor hr This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
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Hi Kerry, Most of my cats love the laser. No matter how quietly I try to take it out of it's hiding spot, some of them will actually wake up immediately and come running. I find it amazing that they know the difference between the noise the chain on the laser makes and dozens of others similar noises. I used to worry about it teasing them also, until one cat, whenever I took my finger off the switch, came over and smacked my arm, looking straight into my eyes, until I turned it back on - then she was back to pretending it was really something to chase. And another will just stop and look over his shoulder at me as if to say Aw, come one, turn it back on! (and this one I don't consider to be the brightest of the bunch g) So, I decided then they must know, they're just such great pretenders. Janine --- MacKenzie, Kerry N. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Glad someone mentioned the laser toy--I do use it occasionally because it's the one thing that never fails to get my 2 quarantined cats moving. But the reason I only use it occasionally is that I worry about the frustration element-they think there's something to catch but they can never succeed. Ditto those cat videos showing birds etc, with all the sound effects. I used to play them, but worried about the cats becoming depressed. I'd love to hear other opinions. Is there any reliable info out there on how chasing intangible objects affects cats? If I thought they were really ok, I'd use them more often. Kerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barb Moermond Sent: Monday, September 05, 2005 2:51 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Bandy and supplements I would be cautious in using laser pointers as toys - I know they love it and I bring mine out a couple times a year, but it can make some kitties go a little nuts. One of the clinic cats where I take my boys lost it after having played with the laser toy and kept looking for the red dot to the point she was attacking other kitties. No more lasers and she was on meds for a while but is OK now. Just something to keep in mind! --- maimaipg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My alternative vet recommends transfer factor and MacroForce for boosting the immune system. The active ingredient in Macro Force is available in other brands. This just happens to be the easiest to get in my area of the country. She also uses laser (as has me use a regular laser pointer) on various points on the cat's body. It acts sort of like acupuncture. You would have to get someone to show you the points or try to figure it out from the internet. Keep the light out of the eyes. But enjoy running the light in circles around the cat. Mine love to chase the little red dot they can't catch. For $20 it is a wonderful toy even if you can't figure the alternative med stuff out. It stimulates their interest and gives them exercise that has to help their morale. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, September 05, 2005 10:11 AM Subject: Re: Bandy and supplements I do not think that any supplements will help with the anemia directly unless it is iron anemia, which is very rare in cats and probably is not the case with him. I would put him on 500 mg per day of Lysine, split into two doses, and a multi-vitamin supplement (like Pet Tinic, which does have iron) and maybe switch on and off between echinacea and astragalus every week. I would mix them into baby food twice per day in small doses and let him eat them. People also rave about Transfer Factor, which I have not tried yet, so maybe that as well. I would start with one at a time so if he does not want to eat the baby food you will know which supplement he does not like. Michelle Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. - Anonymous __ Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. http://store.yahoo.com/redcross-donate3/ hr IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayer should
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My whole crue loves that toy, I do not have any toys that they play with as a group but this is one.of course flies, boy do they love the flies. Cheriejanine paton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Kerry, Most of my cats love the laser. No matter how quietlyI try to take it out of it's hiding spot, some of themwill actually wake up immediately and come running. Ifind it amazing that they know the difference betweenthe noise the chain on the laser makes and dozens ofothers similar noises.I used to worry about it teasing them also, until onecat, whenever I took my finger off the switch, cameover and smacked my arm, looking straight into myeyes, until I turned it back on - then she was back topretending it was really something to chase.And another will just stop and look over his shoulderat me as if to say Aw, come one, turn it back on! (and this one I don't consider to be the brightest ofthe bunch )So, I decided then they must know, they're just suchgreat pretenders. Janine--- "MacKenzie, Kerry N."<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: Glad someone mentioned the laser toy--I do use it occasionally because it's the one thing that never fails to get my 2 quarantined cats moving. But the reason I only use it occasionally is that I worry about the frustration element-they think there's something to catch but they can never succeed. Ditto those cat videos showing birds etc, with all the sound effects. I used to play them, but worried about the cats becoming depressed. I'd love to hear other opinions. Is there any reliable info out there on how chasing intangible objects affects cats? If I thought they were really ok, I'd use them more often. Kerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barb Moermond Sent: Monday, September 05, 2005 2:51 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Bandy and supplements I would be cautious in using laser pointers as toys - I know they love it and I bring mine out a couple times a year, but it can make some kitties go a little nuts. One of the clinic cats where I take my boys lost it after having played with the laser toy and kept looking for the red dot to the point she was attacking other kitties. No more lasers and she was on meds for a while but is OK now. Just something to keep in mind! --- maimaipg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: My alternative vet recommends transfer factor and MacroForce for boosting the immune system. The active ingredient in Macro Force is available in other brands. This just happens to be the easiest to get in my area of the country. She also uses laser (as has me use a regular laser pointer) on various points on the cat's body. It acts sort of like acupuncture. You would have to get someone to show you the points or try to figure it out from the internet. Keep the light out of the eyes. But enjoy running the light in circles around the cat. Mine love to chase the little red dot they can't catch. For $20 it is a wonderful toy even if you can't figure the alternative med stuff out. It stimulates their interest and gives them exercise that has to help their morale. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, September 05, 2005 10:11 AM Subject: Re: Bandy and supplements I do not think that any supplements will help with the anemia directly unless it is iron anemia, which is very rare in cats and probably is not the case with him. I would put him on 500 mg per day of Lysine, split into two doses, and a multi-vitamin supplement (like Pet Tinic, which does have iron) and maybe switch on and off between echinacea and astragalus every week. I would mix them into baby food twice per day in small doses and let him eat them. People also rave about Transfer Factor, which I have not tried yet, so maybe that as well. I would start with one at a time so if he does not want to eat the baby food you will know which supplement he does not like. Michelle Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous__ Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. http://store.yahoo.com/redcross-donate3/ IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, an
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one cat, whenever I took my finger off the switch, came over and smacked my arm, looking straight into my eyes, until I turned it back on That's funny, Janine---ok, you've convinced me they make the connection! (I do make sure they get a special treat afterwards to make up for the teasing.) Kerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of janine paton Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 1:52 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: laser toy Hi Kerry, Most of my cats love the laser. No matter how quietly I try to take it out of it's hiding spot, some of them will actually wake up immediately and come running. I find it amazing that they know the difference between the noise the chain on the laser makes and dozens of others similar noises. I used to worry about it teasing them also, until one cat, whenever I took my finger off the switch, came over and smacked my arm, looking straight into my eyes, until I turned it back on - then she was back to pretending it was really something to chase. And another will just stop and look over his shoulder at me as if to say Aw, come one, turn it back on! (and this one I don't consider to be the brightest of the bunch g) So, I decided then they must know, they're just such great pretenders. Janine --- MacKenzie, Kerry N. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Glad someone mentioned the laser toy--I do use it occasionally because it's the one thing that never fails to get my 2 quarantined cats moving. But the reason I only use it occasionally is that I worry about the frustration element-they think there's something to catch but they can never succeed. Ditto those cat videos showing birds etc, with all the sound effects. I used to play them, but worried about the cats becoming depressed. I'd love to hear other opinions. Is there any reliable info out there on how chasing intangible objects affects cats? If I thought they were really ok, I'd use them more often. Kerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barb Moermond Sent: Monday, September 05, 2005 2:51 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Bandy and supplements I would be cautious in using laser pointers as toys - I know they love it and I bring mine out a couple times a year, but it can make some kitties go a little nuts. One of the clinic cats where I take my boys lost it after having played with the laser toy and kept looking for the red dot to the point she was attacking other kitties. No more lasers and she was on meds for a while but is OK now. Just something to keep in mind! --- maimaipg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My alternative vet recommends transfer factor and MacroForce for boosting the immune system. The active ingredient in Macro Force is available in other brands. This just happens to be the easiest to get in my area of the country. She also uses laser (as has me use a regular laser pointer) on various points on the cat's body. It acts sort of like acupuncture. You would have to get someone to show you the points or try to figure it out from the internet. Keep the light out of the eyes. But enjoy running the light in circles around the cat. Mine love to chase the little red dot they can't catch. For $20 it is a wonderful toy even if you can't figure the alternative med stuff out. It stimulates their interest and gives them exercise that has to help their morale. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, September 05, 2005 10:11 AM Subject: Re: Bandy and supplements I do not think that any supplements will help with the anemia directly unless it is iron anemia, which is very rare in cats and probably is not the case with him. I would put him on 500 mg per day of Lysine, split into two doses, and a multi-vitamin supplement (like Pet Tinic, which does have iron) and maybe switch on and off between echinacea and astragalus every week. I would mix them into baby food twice per day in small doses and let him eat them. People also rave about Transfer Factor, which I have not tried yet, so maybe that as well. I would start with one at a time so if he does not want to eat the baby food you will know which supplement he does not like. Michelle Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. - Anonymous __ Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. http://store.yahoo.com/redcross-donate3/ hr IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown
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Do they make remote controlled mice? Wouldn't that be fun!? Nina MacKenzie, Kerry N. wrote: That's funny, Janine---ok, you've convinced me they make the connection! (I do make sure they get a special treat afterwards to make up for the teasing.) Kerry
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I have a battery operated cat that has a randomly moving mouse that dangles from it---the Momcat loves it. But I'd love to hear of other successful toys that are battery operated--I've heard Da Bird is good?? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nina Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 2:24 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: laser toy Do they make remote controlled mice? Wouldn't that be fun!? Nina MacKenzie, Kerry N. wrote: That's funny, Janine---ok, you've convinced me they make the connection! (I do make sure they get a special treat afterwards to make up for the teasing.) Kerry hr IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayer should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor hr This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
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While I have never used the laser, my mother had the same concerns about my cat track with the ping pong ball in the track that the cat chases. My mother felt so bad about them being frustratedthat she would take the ball out and give it to the cats. THAT depressed them. I am serious.They wereobviously disappointed. They wanted the ball back in the track. They knew it was a game. I seriously think cats are smart enough to know a game when they see it and most cats love a good game. I use cat teasers tooand catching the thing is never as fun as the chase. One of my cats will bring a teaser to me to make it "move." They know a game. I really believe this."MacKenzie, Kerry N." [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Glad someone mentioned the laser toy--I do use it occasionally becauseit's the one thing that never fails to get my 2 quarantined cats moving.But the reason I only use it occasionally is that I worry about thefrustration element-they think there's something to catch but they cannever succeed. Ditto those cat videos showing birds etc, with all thesound effects. I used to play them, but worried about the cats becomingdepressed. I'd love to hear other opinions. Is there any reliable infoout there on how chasing intangible objects affects cats? If I thoughtthey were really ok, I'd use them more often. Kerry-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED][mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barb MoermondSent: Monday, September 05, 2005 2:51 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: Bandy and supplementsI would be cautious in using laser pointers as toys -I know they love it and I bring mine out a coupletimes a year, but it can make some kitties go a littlenuts. One of the clinic cats where I take my boyslost it after having played with the laser toy andkept looking for the red dot to the point she wasattacking other kitties. No more lasers and she wason meds for a while but is OK now. Just something tokeep in mind!--- maimaipg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: My alternative vet recommends transfer factor and MacroForce for boosting the immune system. The active ingredient in Macro Force is available in other brands. This just happens to be the easiest to get in my area of the country. She also uses laser (as has me use a regular laser pointer) on various points on the cat's body. It acts sort of like acupuncture. You would have to get someone to show you the points or try to figure it out from the internet. Keep the light out of the eyes. But enjoy running the light in circles around the cat. Mine love to chase the little red dot they can't catch. For $20 it is a wonderful toy even if you can't figure the alternative med stuff out. It stimulates their interest and gives them exercise that has to help their morale. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, September 05, 2005 10:11 AM Subject: Re: Bandy and supplements I do not think that any supplements will help with the anemia directly unless it is iron anemia, which is very rare in cats and probably is not the case with him. I would put him on 500 mg per day of Lysine, split into two doses, and a multi-vitamin supplement (like Pet Tinic, which does have iron) and maybe switch on and off between echinacea and astragalus every week. I would mix them into baby food twice per day in small doses and let him eat them. People also rave about Transfer Factor, which I have not tried yet, so maybe that as well. I would start with one at a time so if he does not want to eat the baby food you will know which supplement he does not like. MichelleBarb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito"My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merelyliving his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous__Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort.http://store.yahoo.com/redcross-donate3/ IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayer should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy t
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Title: Message THAT depressed them. I am serious.They wereobviously disappointed. They wanted the ball back in the track. They knew it was a gameThanks Faye---that's hilarious. I think I'm becoming convinced that it's ok---more than ok--to use "teaser" toys! Kerry -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lewis FayeSent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 2:46 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: laser toy While I have never used the laser, my mother had the same concerns about my cat track with the ping pong ball in the track that the cat chases. My mother felt so bad about them being frustratedthat she would take the ball out and give it to the cats. THAT depressed them. I am serious.They wereobviously disappointed. They wanted the ball back in the track. They knew it was a game. I seriously think cats are smart enough to know a game when they see it and most cats love a good game. I use cat teasers tooand catching the thing is never as fun as the chase. One of my cats will bring a teaser to me to make it "move." They know a game. I really believe this."MacKenzie, Kerry N." [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Glad someone mentioned the laser toy--I do use it occasionally becauseit's the one thing that never fails to get my 2 quarantined cats moving.But the reason I only use it occasionally is that I worry about thefrustration element-they think there's something to catch but they cannever succeed. Ditto those cat videos showing birds etc, with all thesound effects. I used to play them, but worried about the cats becomingdepressed. I'd love to hear other opinions. Is there any reliable infoout there on how chasing intangible objects affects cats? If I thoughtthey were really ok, I'd use them more often. Kerry-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED][mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barb MoermondSent: Monday, September 05, 2005 2:51 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: ! Bandy and supplementsI would be cautious in using laser pointers as toys -I know they love it and I bring mine out a coupletimes a year, but it can make some kitties go a littlenuts. One of the clinic cats where I take my boyslost it after having played with the laser toy andkept looking for the red dot to the point she wasattacking other kitties. No more lasers and she wason meds for a while but is OK now. Just something tokeep in mind!--- maimaipg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: My alternative vet recommends transfer factor and MacroForce for boosting the immune system. The active ingredient in Macro Force is available in other brands. This just happens to be the easiest to get in my area of the country. She also uses laser (as has me use a regular laser pointer) on various points on the cat's body. It acts sort of like acupuncture. You would have to get someone t! o show you the points or try to figure it out from the internet. Keep the light out of the eyes. But enjoy running the light in circles around the cat. Mine love to chase the little red dot they can't catch. For $20 it is a wonderful toy even if you can't figure the alternative med stuff out. It stimulates their interest and gives them exercise that has to help their morale. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, September 05, 2005 10:11 AM Subject: Re: Bandy and supplements I do not think that any supplements will help with the anemia directly unless it is iron anemia, which is very rare in cats and probably is not the case with him. I would put him on 500 mg per day of Lysine, split into two doses, and a multi-vitamin supplement (like Pet Tinic, w! hich does have iron) and maybe switch on and off between echinacea and astragalus every week. I would mix them into baby food twice per day in small doses and let him eat them. People also rave about Transfer Factor, which I have not tried yet, so maybe that as well. I would start with one at a time so if he does not want to eat the baby food you will know which supplement he does not like. MichelleBarb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito"My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merelyliving his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous__Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort.http://store.yahoo.com/redcross-donate3/ IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marke
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Ebony and MiTu would sit on the stool in front of the TV when they wanted me to play the video for them. Ebony would wake me up, make sure I was awake then sit on the stool so I understood exactly what he wanted. They loved the video and couldn't get enough. I just had to make sure there was nothing breakable on top of the TV. - Original Message - From: MacKenzie, Kerry N. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 12:26 PM Subject: laser toy Glad someone mentioned the laser toy--I do use it occasionally because it's the one thing that never fails to get my 2 quarantined cats moving. But the reason I only use it occasionally is that I worry about the frustration element-they think there's something to catch but they can never succeed. Ditto those cat videos showing birds etc, with all the sound effects. I used to play them, but worried about the cats becoming depressed. I'd love to hear other opinions. Is there any reliable info out there on how chasing intangible objects affects cats? If I thought they were really ok, I'd use them more often. Kerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barb Moermond Sent: Monday, September 05, 2005 2:51 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Bandy and supplements I would be cautious in using laser pointers as toys - I know they love it and I bring mine out a couple times a year, but it can make some kitties go a little nuts. One of the clinic cats where I take my boys lost it after having played with the laser toy and kept looking for the red dot to the point she was attacking other kitties. No more lasers and she was on meds for a while but is OK now. Just something to keep in mind! --- maimaipg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My alternative vet recommends transfer factor and MacroForce for boosting the immune system. The active ingredient in Macro Force is available in other brands. This just happens to be the easiest to get in my area of the country. She also uses laser (as has me use a regular laser pointer) on various points on the cat's body. It acts sort of like acupuncture. You would have to get someone to show you the points or try to figure it out from the internet. Keep the light out of the eyes. But enjoy running the light in circles around the cat. Mine love to chase the little red dot they can't catch. For $20 it is a wonderful toy even if you can't figure the alternative med stuff out. It stimulates their interest and gives them exercise that has to help their morale. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, September 05, 2005 10:11 AM Subject: Re: Bandy and supplements I do not think that any supplements will help with the anemia directly unless it is iron anemia, which is very rare in cats and probably is not the case with him. I would put him on 500 mg per day of Lysine, split into two doses, and a multi-vitamin supplement (like Pet Tinic, which does have iron) and maybe switch on and off between echinacea and astragalus every week. I would mix them into baby food twice per day in small doses and let him eat them. People also rave about Transfer Factor, which I have not tried yet, so maybe that as well. I would start with one at a time so if he does not want to eat the baby food you will know which supplement he does not like. Michelle Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. - Anonymous __ Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. http://store.yahoo.com/redcross-donate3/ hr IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayer should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor hr This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
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don't ever forget that THEY get a huge kick out of watching us make total fools of ourselves tossing toys around, ending up chasing them ourselves, flying silly feathered toys around--i SWEAR they sit and talk about absolutely ridiculous their humans are. i think they play with some of the toys just to keep US amused (wouldn't want the feeders to get too bored, now would we?) -- MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
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Totally true. Kitty told some ACs that she played with the red dot to amuse me and take my mind off various troubles. - Original Message - From: TenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 6:09 PM Subject: Re: laser toy don't ever forget that THEY get a huge kick out of watching us make total fools of ourselves tossing toys around, ending up chasing them ourselves, flying silly feathered toys around--i SWEAR they sit and talk about absolutely ridiculous their humans are. i think they play with some of the toys just to keep US amused (wouldn't want the feeders to get too bored, now would we?) -- MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
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