Re: OT - Need prayers for Ceasar please
When I have a situation like you had with your wonderful Ceasar I constantly check my own feelings with some friends who are very attuned to animals--to the point of being a pest at times. I am never sure that I am not putting my own values/wishes on the animal. I get such a wonderful strong cat who was very wish when he chose his helper. I grieve for you but know, as you do, that Ceasar will always be close by...maybe in the shadows, but close. I suspect he may return one day as a little less feral cat.I am so glad there are people who can care about these wonderful animals. There are so many who consider them mean and awful. Bless you. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 8:04 AM Subject: Re: OT - Need prayers for Ceasar please Marylyn, You should realize that there is no worry about what my decision will be if Ceasar chooses to give up his life on the street! It's not me that needs convincing, the other cats in my household might though. Be assured that I will do everything in my power to help Ceasar in any way I can and in whatever way he'll let me. I had been asking him to trust me enough to let me help him and the fact that he showed up last night and I was able to catch him so quickly tells me he heard me. At this point it's not Ceasar that I'm as concerned about good communication with as much as the vet. She's the one that needs to understand how important it is to save him, if at all possible. Please keep praying that Ceasar's greater good be served. Thank you for your concern about Ceaser, it's truly appreciated, Nina Marylyn wrote: First listen to Ceaser, not your vet, re his fate. He came back to you for help. What kind of help is a real question but for help. Ebony Thomas Katt was totally torn up when he chose me to take care of him--blood and pus ran down my legs from his wounds. He lived with me, first as a feral, then as an outdoor cat, then an outdoor-indoor then about 13 years as an indoor cat sleeping on my bed and ruling my life. I have had other ferals in bad shape come for help. Maybe it is time Ceaser became an indoor cat--or at least a cat who owned a person. Please listen to him. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 10:41 PM Subject: OT - Need prayers for Ceasar please You guys all know I caretake a couple of small colonies of ferals. You may have heard me talk about Caesar, the one that got away. He's a big tabby Tom that I tried to trap for a very long time and nothing I came up with worked. He disappeared about a year ago and I figured he was either killed or found a new territory. Well, he showed up a couple of days ago looking really bad. He's emaciated, has open sores all over his body, hair loss from who knows what, and limping on his right rear leg. Yesterday he was in an area that, had I been prepared, I could have gotten a net over him. The feral group I belong to convinced me not to try to net him, since he's an adult intact Tom, even though he's sick. I was very lucky to find someone to borrow a drop trap from and the good news is, I got him tonight. The bad news is, he's even sadder looking up close. He was bleeding from the nose and his drool contained blood too. The vet's office where I take ferals to agreed to see him if I bring him in first thing tomorrow. I'm sick with worry over how bad he looks. I'm afraid she's going to tell me to pts. Please pray that whatever is going on with Ceaser, it's something he can recover from. Thanks everyone, I know how much power this group has, and as always, I appreciate your support, Nina -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.9/382 - Release Date: 7/4/2006 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.9/382 - Release Date: 7/4/2006
Re: Ceasar is no longer in pain ( please add him to the CLS)
Nina, I am so sorry to hear about lil Ceasar...I know he came home to you for help..They seem to always do that, and I do know how you feel.. Our thoughts and prayers are with you at this time! Take care of yourself, Kerry and Bandy Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free.
Re: To Julia
Hi, Nina :) Well, I saw the other kitty, who turned out to be a male, and very fat; he would make about 3 of Samantha. Anyway, he's home with me, and it turns out that his owner's stepmom has MS, and can no longer care for the cat (his owner is a teenager, so she doesn't take care of him, her parents do, ya know). I'm not sure if this kitty and I are compatible, but I'm giving him lots of love, and just kinda seeing how things go. I'll give this plenty of time, and if it doesn't work out, I'll put him up for adoption through my vet; I've had to do that before. :) Julia On Friday, July 7, 2006, at 01:25 AM, Nina wrote: Hi Julia, I'm very pleased to hear you had a visit from Samantha. I'm sure the new kitty will love you, even if she's not able to show it right off. Animals know more about what's going on than most people give them credit for and this kitty is probably upset about losing her human and home, (and for such a lame reason, I might add). She can't know how happy she'll be with you. I hope she jumps in your lap and purrs, but don't expect her to! Don't worry about how she seems to feel about you at first, let your feelings about her be your guide. Let us know how your meeting goes. Nina Hi, y'all :) I dreamed about Samantha, 2 mornings ago; I had asked her to let me know she was ok, and she did. I dreamed I was petting her, and playing with her, and she was her normal self. :) I guess our furr-babies have their way of wanting us to be ok, after they pass. It was a good dream, and I was very happy that she sent it to me. :) I'm going to see another kitty who needs a new home, tomorrow; her owner is moving to an apartment, and they don't allow pets. I want to meet her, first, see if she likes me. I told her owner she could visit her kitty anytime she wants. :) Julia
RE: Devastated...Mr. Dobbs My New FIV Rescue Died After Neuter Surgery
My condolences as well. I'm so sorry.tonya"Doljan, Joan" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am so sorry about Mr.. Dobbs. I had a cat die once in a trap on the way to the vet. I still trap, but will never get over it.Joan -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of RachelSent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 10:11 AMTo: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Devastated...Mr. Dobbs My New FIV Rescue Died After Neuter Surgery There are days like this when I don't know why I continue to take in new FIV and FeLV cases. Mr. Dobbs was a gorgeous pure white, long-haired previous stray that tested FIV positive and was being boarded by a local vet until they could find a rescue to take him. We had offered to take him in, he was healthy and the vet neutered him, vaccinated him, including Rabies yesterday morning as a courtesy for us. I picked him up yesterday afternoon and fell instantly in love with him. He was so affectionate. He would give me hugs and he seemed alert and fine after the surgery. I gave him water and checked on him every hour and finally around 11pm last night before I went to bed. This morning I went to feed him and he was laying by the door, already passed on. There was a small amount of blood where his mouth had layed. I feel just terrible that this sweet loving guy spent his last hours alone and I didn't realize that anything was wrong. He seemed fine, no trouble breathing, his feces looked good, he was drinking, he was happy. What went wrong? A blood clot? I called the vet and they are shocked. In all my years of doing rescue I've never had a cat died after a spay/neuter surgery, even the FeLV or FIV positive ones. Has anyone had this happen? Is there something I could have done to prevent it? RachelOperation Foster Felix www.operationfosterfelix.org "Sharing Our Hearts, Homes Litter Boxes"
Izzie is now positive
Hi, My Lucy was diagnosed 6 weeks ago as positive, her sister, Izzie was negativeand I made the decision to keep them together hoping that she had had it and thrown it off - they are littermates and have been together always. Izzie was spayed yesterday and tested positive. The vet was very surprised and says he thinks the first test must have been a false negative - I'm not sure if he was just trying to make me feel better about deciding to keep them together or not. My question to you folks is this, he said that I should get her re-tested in a few months, that she could still throw it off - has anyone experienced this with a + at 8 months? Also, I looked through the archives and found that some people have used vitamin C to help boost the immune system. Could someone advise me as to how much and how to administer? The good news is that Lucy has done really well, she's been off antibiotics for 2 1/2 weeks and is still healthy. Three weeks ago it looked like Lucy wouldn't survive another few days. They are eight months old now so I am hopeful that they will stay healthy fora long time. I haven't posted in a while, but have been following the list. My heart has broken for those of you who have faced losses, my thoughts are with you. I completely agree with Michelle, this is probably the nicest listserv/message board I have ever seen! Maggie
Re: Ceasar is no longer in pain (please add him to the CLS)
Nina, I'm so sorry to hear about your boy! Donot blame yourself...you have done so much for him and he knows it otherwise he wouldn't came back to you. He was asking for your help. You both are in my thoughts and prayers! He is free now and running with the other healthy kitties at the bridge. Terrie Mohr-ForkerTAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTSSIAMESE COLLIE RESCUEOwner/DriverCheck sites for available Siameses for adoption!http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/Click Here to Join WASHINGTON SIAMESE RESCUE Yahoo Group!http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescuehttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/SNOHOMISH_COUNTY_PETS_in_WAhttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.htmlhttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.htmlPetfinder.comAdopt a Homeless Pet!http://www.petfinder.com/http://www.felineleukemia.org/http://www.petloss.com/TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTShttps://www.paypal.com/http://www.frappr.com/wasiameserescue
RE: Izzie is now positive
Hi Maggie,I'm sorry to hear that Izzie tested positive. I don't have a lot of experience with FeLV+ cats, other than my kitty and my mom's cat, though I have heard that it's possible for a cat to throw off the virus. I'm not a vet, so my opinions don't count for much. However, it'd be good to get both cats, especially Izzie, on low-dose interferon treatments, and possibly Transfer Factor, vitamin C or DMG to help build the immune system.I haven't started my FeLV+ girl on vitamin C yet, though I have some downstairs that we'll be going with soon. I believe she gets 1/16th to 1/8th of a teaspoon of it per day. It's Halo's Xtra C. A good place to start for all of this might be with Anitra Frazier's book, The New Natural Cat.Lance
