Re: [FFmpeg-user] Resizing ffplay window with fixed aspect ratio

2022-12-23 Thread Carl Zwanzig



On 12/22/2022 3:04 PM, Paul B Mahol wrote:


On 12/22/22, Carl Zwanzig  wrote:

While ffmpeg is quite useful, there are better free players than ffplay*
(often built on the ffmpeg libs). And for some purposes, there are better
open-source info tools than ffprobe.


(Note the use of "for some purposes" there indicating that the assertion may 
not be, or probably isn't, true for all cases. This is called "expressing an 
opinion".)




That is doubtful, citation needed.


For players, and there are probably hundreds, as I'm sure you know VLC is 
quite good and does an excellent job for a great many people (and uses parts 
of ffmpeg). Tell us why ffplay is _better_ (in general and in specific); 
from what I can tell, it never rates in any of the "top 10" lists of players 
whereas VLC is usually in the top 2 or 3.


https://www.techradar.com/best/free-video-player
https://www.softwaretestinghelp.com/best-video-player/
https://fossbytes.com/10-best-free-media-players-windows/
https://www.androidpolice.com/best-video-players-android/
(there are more)


Next, please explain why ffprobe is superior to all the others instead of 
just saying "This is doubtful."? There is no doubt to me and my colleagues 
that MediaInfo is often more usable (or "better") that ffprobe - we've found 
it gives much better control of the output and has a GUI for those that want 
it. GSpot has been quite useful but is considered old now. There's also 
AVInaptic. Then there are some non-free ones. If those are inaccurate, well, 
citation, please.


https://listoffreeware.com/free-video-metadata-viewer-software-windows/
https://www.videoproc.com/video-editor/video-metadata-editor.htm
unfortunately, there aren't a lot of comparisons out there



You are still trying to be truth teller, but fail badly.


Citation and explanation, please; both on "trying to be truth teller" and 
"fail badly". And then explain how an opinion can be "wrong".



Paul, there's no point trying these silly games. It seems that whenever you 
disagree with anyone, you try to insult them; that's antisocial and doesn't 
help anyone. Oh, and please don't bother to add "You should be banned.", 
that would be tiresome and we've heard it before.


Later,

z!
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Re: [FFmpeg-user] Resizing ffplay window with fixed aspect ratio

2022-12-23 Thread Nicolas George
Ferdi Scholten (12022-12-23):
> Start ffplay with the -noborder option

Starting ffplay with -noborder causes the window to not be resizable at
all. It does enforce the window keeps its aspect ratio, but only to the
amount that amputating your leg would get you rid of a plantar wart.

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Re: [FFmpeg-user] Resizing ffplay window with fixed aspect ratio

2022-12-22 Thread Ferdi Scholten

On 22-12-2022 20:22, Dave Blanchard wrote:

Is there an option which fixes the ffplay window to the video dimension when 
resizing? I really don't understand why anyone would desire the default 
behavior of scaling the video to fit the smallest dimension, leaving black bars 
on either side. Thanks.


Start ffplay with the -noborder option

example:

    ffplay -noborder -i myvideo.mkv
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Re: [FFmpeg-user] Resizing ffplay window with fixed aspect ratio

2022-12-22 Thread Paul B Mahol
On 12/22/22, Carl Zwanzig  wrote:
>
> While ffmpeg is quite useful, there are better free players than ffplay*
> (often built on the ffmpeg libs). And for some purposes, there are better
> open-source info tools than ffprobe.

That is doubtful, citation needed.

You are still trying to be truth teller, but fail badly.

>
> *from the doc- "It is mostly used as a testbed for the various FFmpeg
> APIs."
>
> I hadn't noticed mplayer leaking memory but then I haven't used it for a few
>
> years.
>
> Find the best tool for the job, and all that.
>
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Re: [FFmpeg-user] Resizing ffplay window with fixed aspect ratio

2022-12-22 Thread Carl Zwanzig



While ffmpeg is quite useful, there are better free players than ffplay* 
(often built on the ffmpeg libs). And for some purposes, there are better 
open-source info tools than ffprobe.


*from the doc- "It is mostly used as a testbed for the various FFmpeg APIs."

I hadn't noticed mplayer leaking memory but then I haven't used it for a few 
years.


Find the best tool for the job, and all that.

z!
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Re: [FFmpeg-user] Resizing ffplay window with fixed aspect ratio

2022-12-22 Thread Mark Filipak

On 12/22/22 14:51, Dave Blanchard wrote:

On Thu, 22 Dec 2022 13:43:55 -0600
Rick Keniuk  wrote:


When watching 4:3 aspect and you don't want stuff missing.  Thats a good
reason for the black bars.


I mean when displaying video in a window, not fullscreen. Of course you would 
want the bars in fullscreen mode, or if maximized. I don't see any useful 
reason to have them when resizing the window. MPlayer gets this right; in fact 
it gets a lot of things right that ffplay gets wrong. Unfortunately, it leaks 
memory.


Have you tried MPV? Recommended. -- Mark.

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Re: [FFmpeg-user] Resizing ffplay window with fixed aspect ratio

2022-12-22 Thread Dave Blanchard
On Thu, 22 Dec 2022 13:43:55 -0600
Rick Keniuk  wrote:

> When watching 4:3 aspect and you don't want stuff missing.  Thats a good
> reason for the black bars.

I mean when displaying video in a window, not fullscreen. Of course you would 
want the bars in fullscreen mode, or if maximized. I don't see any useful 
reason to have them when resizing the window. MPlayer gets this right; in fact 
it gets a lot of things right that ffplay gets wrong. Unfortunately, it leaks 
memory.

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Re: [FFmpeg-user] Resizing ffplay window with fixed aspect ratio

2022-12-22 Thread Rick Keniuk
When watching 4:3 aspect and you don't want stuff missing.  Thats a good
reason for the black bars.

On Thu, Dec 22, 2022, 1:21 PM Dave Blanchard  wrote:

> Is there an option which fixes the ffplay window to the video dimension
> when resizing? I really don't understand why anyone would desire the
> default behavior of scaling the video to fit the smallest dimension,
> leaving black bars on either side. Thanks.
>
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[FFmpeg-user] Resizing ffplay window with fixed aspect ratio

2022-12-22 Thread Dave Blanchard
Is there an option which fixes the ffplay window to the video dimension when 
resizing? I really don't understand why anyone would desire the default 
behavior of scaling the video to fit the smallest dimension, leaving black bars 
on either side. Thanks. 

-- 
Dave Blanchard 
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