Re: filmscanners: analog gain

2001-03-14 Thread Rob Geraghty

Jules wrote:
 i think you misunderstood.  vuescan does not show the RGB analog
 gain in the preview *scan*.  what guy was saying is that he
 has to check the full scan to see the effects of analog gain.
 i concur with guy, it would be great to see the effect in the
 preview scan.

Unless Ed has disabled the feature, Vuescan certainly used to,
but you *must* run the preview scan again (ie. scan from the
scanner not memory) before you'll see the difference.

Rob


Rob Geraghty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://wordweb.com






RE: filmscanners: Need feedback on VueScan Improvements

2001-03-14 Thread Hersch Nitikman

I have no strong feelings about this, but I don't see how it
could hurt, and it might help. It doesn't sound hard to do. 
Hersch

At 04:28 PM 03/14/2001 +1000, you wrote:
At 09:17 AM 14/03/01 +1000, Rob wrote:
 why would you want to seperate these? to allow the
 option of grain removal WITHOUT clean?

Yes, or to allow varying intensities of clean without
grain removal. They should be two separate drop down
options, and with the interface changes in 7.0 there's
plenty of space.

I for one would like to be able to see the effect of
grain removal on its own without having to combine it
with cleaning. Then also, a frame might need only mild
cleaning but heavy grain removal. At the moment, I
don't have that as an option.

Rob


Are Rob and I alone in wanting this change from Ed? If anyone else
on the
list also thinks this is a good idea, please say so now!

Mark T.



Re: filmscanners: Re: GeForce2 MX Graphics Card

2001-03-14 Thread Colin Maddock

I wrote:
A friend here also suggested looking at a Riva TNT2-M64 32MB,
but I believe they are "last year's" technology? ;-)

Rob replied:
I think that is the chipset on my video card.  Whether it's too old depends
on whether you want to play next year's computer games. 

Which I don't.

I'm certain that different cards will give a different
quality of display at a given resolution - especially at really high resolutions.
I don't have the means to do a side-by-side comparison, but I'm sure that
it's true.  Sadly, none of the reviews I've ever seen in magazines make
much point of the clarity of display when comparing different cards connected
to the same monitor.

The only comment I have seen regarding that was on Tom's Hardware site, when the 
Matrox G450 was referred to as having "razor sharp signal quality", but no comparisons 
were made.

Colin Maddock







Re: filmscanners: analog gain

2001-03-14 Thread Maris V. Lidaka, Sr.

You might compromise by setting the full scan for a lower-resolution image
for sample purposes, and then when satisfied set the scan for the full
resolution setting.

Maris

- Original Message -
From: "Mark T." [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 12:22 AM
Subject: RE: filmscanners: analog gain


| At 09:08 AM 14/03/01 +1000, Rob wrote:
| If you change the brightness, the best thing to do is rerun the preview
| scan.  It's not horribly slow.  Otherwise you're not seeing the result of
| the longer integration time.  I imagine Ed could code Vuescan to estimate
| the change produced by the brightness control, but people would probably
| complain that it wasn't accurate.
|
| That's what my old scanner, an Olympus ES10, did, and that feature sucked.
| The difference between its estimation and the real result was so great
that
| it made what would have been a really useful ability close to worthless.
|
|
| PS Do I get an award for worst grammar for that sentence? ;)
|
| Mark T.
|
| ==
| Mark Thomas   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| http://www.adelaide.net.au/~markthom




RE: filmscanners: Need feedback on VueScan Improvements

2001-03-14 Thread Henry Richardson

From: "Mark T." [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: filmscanners: Need feedback on VueScan Improvements
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 16:28:11 +1000

At 09:17 AM 14/03/01 +1000, Rob wrote:
  why would you want to seperate these?  to allow the
  option of grain removal WITHOUT clean?
 
 Yes, or to allow varying intensities of clean without
 grain removal.  They should be two separate drop down
 options, and with the interface changes in 7.0 there's
 plenty of space.
 
 I for one would like to be able to see the effect of
 grain removal on its own without having to combine it
 with cleaning.  Then also, a frame might need only mild
 cleaning but heavy grain removal.  At the moment, I
 don't have that as an option.
 
 Rob


Are Rob and I alone in wanting this change from Ed?  If anyone else on the
list also thinks this is a good idea, please say so now!

Mark T.

Yes, I would like it very much.  In fact, I was the first one to ask for it 
the same day that Ed released the first Vuescan with it a month or more ago.

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Re: filmscanners: Re: GeForce2 MX Graphics Card

2001-03-14 Thread Maris V. Lidaka, Sr.

There is a review of 3 dual-monitor video cards at
http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.html?i=1423

I have just barely started reading it so I don't know how valuable it is.

Maris

- Original Message -
From: "Colin Maddock" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 2:09 AM
Subject: Re: filmscanners: Re: GeForce2 MX Graphics Card


| I wrote:
| A friend here also suggested looking at a Riva TNT2-M64 32MB,
| but I believe they are "last year's" technology? ;-)
|
| Rob replied:
| I think that is the chipset on my video card.  Whether it's too old
depends
| on whether you want to play next year's computer games.
|
| Which I don't.
|
| I'm certain that different cards will give a different
| quality of display at a given resolution - especially at really high
resolutions.
| I don't have the means to do a side-by-side comparison, but I'm sure that
| it's true.  Sadly, none of the reviews I've ever seen in magazines make
| much point of the clarity of display when comparing different cards
connected
| to the same monitor.
|
| The only comment I have seen regarding that was on Tom's Hardware site,
when the Matrox G450 was referred to as having "razor sharp signal quality",
but no comparisons were made.
|
| Colin Maddock
|
|
|
|




RE: filmscanners: Need feedback on VueScan Improvements

2001-03-14 Thread Bob Shomler

Yes, or to allow varying intensities of clean without
grain removal.  They should be two separate drop down
options, and with the interface changes in 7.0 there's
plenty of space.

I for one would like to be able to see the effect of
grain removal on its own without having to combine it
with cleaning.  Then also, a frame might need only mild
cleaning but heavy grain removal.  At the moment, I
don't have that as an option.
...
Are Rob and I alone in wanting this change from Ed?  

No.

If anyone else on the list also thinks this is a good idea, please say so now!

I'm not a fan of sending "I agree" or "me to" to lists, but I'll write it here if it 
will help.

--
Bob Shomler
http://www.shomler.com/gallery.htm



filmscanners: First look at Nikon Super Coolscan 4000

2001-03-14 Thread Mikael Risedal

Test Nikon Coolscan 4000 + NikonScan 3.0 beta
+Colors= excellent.
+Density= excellent
+Sharpness= Excellent
Software Nikon Scan 3.0 beta. Will  be a very good software when its ready, 
lots of new features . God work Nikon

Mikael Risedal
Photographer
Lund Sweden










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RE: filmscanners: Need feedback on VueScan Improvements

2001-03-14 Thread Shough, Dean

 I had understood that grain removal was a by-product of the ICE-type
 cleaning and therefore could not be separated.  If it can, certainly I
 agree
 that should be an independent option.


Not sure about VueScan, but ASF's GEM and ROC do not depend on ICE.  Two
separate sources for this statement: 1) Minolta's medium format scanner has
GEM and ROC but not ICE and 2) the patent that appears to be the basis for
ROC (#5,673,336).  The patent states that an IR channel is not necessary for
the removal of color crosstalk but that the process of removing crosstalk
improves the IR detection of defects.



Re: filmscanners: Need feedback on VueScan Improvements

2001-03-14 Thread Gordon Tassi

If I remember correctly, about a week or two ago, someone on the list had a post
that also said that ICE or its equivalent needed the IR channel but that GEM ad
ROC or their equivalent operated independently and did not need the IR Channel.

Gordon


 Not sure about VueScan, but ASF's GEM and ROC do not depend on ICE.   The
 patent states that an IR channel is not necessary for the removal of color
 crosstalk but that the process of removing crosstalk improves the IR detection
 of defects.




filmscanners: Virus ALERT - W32/Magistr

2001-03-14 Thread Dale Gail

For those that are interested.

Dale


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Re: filmscanners: analog gain

2001-03-14 Thread Hersch Nitikman

I don't know about the 'analog gain', but I previewed 3
times last night, on the same image, and none of them picked up the
'clean' function. I was getting discouraged, but the final scan came out
beautifully clean. It would be nice if the 'clean' functions worked on
the preview, so one could best select which version to scan. I suppose it
would slow the process of bringing up the preview, but the idea of
keeping the quick-and-dirty lo-res preview for 'crop-only' weakens its
use too much for my taste. I think a second preview ought to pick up the
scanning instructions, so the hi-res scan will have the right options.
Ignoring them on the first round would avoid slowing things down, and
picking them up on the second would satisfy someone who was not in too
much of a hurry to worry about the options. 
Hersch

At 04:59 PM 03/14/2001 +1000, you wrote:
Jules wrote:
 i think you misunderstood. vuescan does not show the RGB
analog
 gain in the preview *scan*. what guy was saying is
that he
 has to check the full scan to see the effects of analog gain.
 i concur with guy, it would be great to see the effect in the
 preview scan.

Unless Ed has disabled the feature, Vuescan certainly used to,
but you *must* run the preview scan again (ie. scan from the
scanner not memory) before you'll see the difference.

Rob


Rob Geraghty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://wordweb.com



filmscanners: Vuescan grain dust removal function (was: Need feedback on VueScan Improvements)

2001-03-14 Thread Bob Shomler

 I had understood that grain removal was a by-product of the ICE-type
 cleaning and therefore could not be separated. ...

Not sure about VueScan, but ASF's GEM and ROC do not depend on ICE.  Two
separate sources for this statement: 1) Minolta's medium format scanner has
GEM and ROC but not ICE and 2) the patent that appears to be the basis for
ROC (#5,673,336).  The patent states that an IR channel is not necessary for
the removal of color crosstalk but that the process of removing crosstalk
improves the IR detection of defects.

From what is written in the help file it would appear that vuescan does not depend on 
an IR channel.  The following is from the vuescan 7.0 help file:

--
Clean   Use this option to remove dust spots and reduce visible film grain.

If the scan has an infrared channel, the Light option will remove dust spots, the 
Medium option will remove dust spots and reduce film grain, and the Heavy option will 
remove dust spots and reduce more film grain.

If the scan doesn't have an infrared channel, the Light option will reduce film grain, 
the Medium option will remove more film grain and some smaller dust spots, and the 
Heavy option will remove more film grain and larger dust spots.
--

--
Bob Shomler
http://www.shomler.com/gallery.htm



Re: filmscanners: First look at Nikon Super Coolscan 4000

2001-03-14 Thread Dicky

Too subjective by far so exactly what does all that actually mean...

Richard Corbett

- Original Message -
From: "Mikael Risedal" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 4:25 PM
Subject: filmscanners: First look at Nikon Super Coolscan 4000


 Test Nikon Coolscan 4000 + NikonScan 3.0 beta
 +Colors= excellent.
 +Density= excellent
 +Sharpness= Excellent
 Software Nikon Scan 3.0 beta. Will  be a very good software when its
ready,
 lots of new features . God work Nikon

 Mikael Risedal
 Photographer
 Lund Sweden










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Re: filmscanners: analog gain

2001-03-14 Thread Maris V. Lidaka, Sr.

You could do this now, though somewhat slower, by decreasing Scan resolution
on the Device tab to a minimal number, and leaving the "Viewer" line on the
Prefs tab empty so that the image does not open your graphics program but
merely shows on the Scan tab of Vuescan.  The image will scan at low
resolution much like a 2nd prescan but the cleaning and coloring filters
will show up.

When you're satisfied, change the resolution back and reinsert the "Viewer"
line instructions for the real scan.

Maris

- Original Message -
From: Hersch Nitikman
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 2:46 PM
Subject: Re: filmscanners: analog gain


I don't know about the 'analog gain', but I previewed 3 times last night, on
the same image, and none of them picked up the 'clean' function. I was
getting discouraged, but the final scan came out beautifully clean. It would
be nice if the 'clean' functions worked on the preview, so one could best
select which version to scan. I suppose it would slow the process of
bringing up the preview, but the idea of keeping the quick-and-dirty lo-res
preview for 'crop-only' weakens its use too much for my taste. I think a
second preview ought to pick up the scanning instructions, so the hi-res
scan will have the right options. Ignoring them on the first round would
avoid slowing things down, and picking them up on the second would satisfy
someone who was not in too much of a hurry to worry about the options.
Hersch

At 04:59 PM 03/14/2001 +1000, you wrote:

Jules wrote:
 i think you misunderstood.  vuescan does not show the RGB analog
 gain in the preview *scan*.  what guy was saying is that he
 has to check the full scan to see the effects of analog gain.
 i concur with guy, it would be great to see the effect in the
 preview scan.

Unless Ed has disabled the feature, Vuescan certainly used to,
but you *must* run the preview scan again (ie. scan from the
scanner not memory) before you'll see the difference.

Rob


Rob Geraghty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://wordweb.com




Re: filmscanners: Need feedback on VueScan Improvements

2001-03-14 Thread Rob Geraghty

"Maris V. Lidaka, Sr." [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I had understood that grain removal was a by-product of the ICE-type
 cleaning and therefore could not be separated.  If it can, certainly I
agree
 that should be an independent option.

No, grain removal and dust/scratch removal are different filters in both
Nikonscan 3 and Vuescan.  At the moment however, Vuescan forces
you to combine them at higher "cleaning" settings.  I don't know if
Nikonscan
lets you apply them separately.

There's a slight softening of the image caused by ICE or Vuescan's
dust/scratch filter, but this isn't a specific grain reduction feature.

Rob





Re: filmscanners: Vuescan grain dust removal function (was: Need feedback on VueScan Improvements)

2001-03-14 Thread Maris V. Lidaka, Sr.

That's what I was thinking of also, as the Help file implies that the dust
removal process will "reduce film grain" and "reduce more film grain".  I
was also referring a previous post by Ed, to wit:

"When there's no infrared channel, VueScan 6.6 does a nice job
reducing film grain, but the Scrub and Scour settings soften the
image a bit when trying to remove dust spots.

Regards,
Ed Hamrick"

If grain removal is in fact a separable feature, I too would like it to be a
separately selectable option.

Maris

- Original Message -
From: "Bob Shomler" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 3:47 PM
Subject: filmscanners: Vuescan grain dust removal function (was: Need
feedback on VueScan Improvements)


|  I had understood that grain removal was a by-product of the ICE-type
|  cleaning and therefore could not be separated. ...
| 
| Not sure about VueScan, but ASF's GEM and ROC do not depend on ICE.  Two
| separate sources for this statement: 1) Minolta's medium format scanner
has
| GEM and ROC but not ICE and 2) the patent that appears to be the basis
for
| ROC (#5,673,336).  The patent states that an IR channel is not necessary
for
| the removal of color crosstalk but that the process of removing crosstalk
| improves the IR detection of defects.
|
| From what is written in the help file it would appear that vuescan does
not depend on an IR channel.  The following is from the vuescan 7.0 help
file:
|
| --
| Clean   Use this option to remove dust spots and reduce visible film
grain.
|
| If the scan has an infrared channel, the Light option will remove dust
spots, the Medium option will remove dust spots and reduce film grain, and
the Heavy option will remove dust spots and reduce more film grain.
|
| If the scan doesn't have an infrared channel, the Light option will reduce
film grain, the Medium option will remove more film grain and some smaller
dust spots, and the Heavy option will remove more film grain and larger dust
spots.
| --
|
| --
| Bob Shomler
| http://www.shomler.com/gallery.htm




Re: filmscanners: analog gain

2001-03-14 Thread Rob Geraghty

Hersch Nitikman wrote:
 I don't know about the 'analog gain', but I previewed 3 times last night,
 on the same image, and none of them picked up the 'clean' function.

AFAICR Ed mentioned a while back that he stopped showing the results of the
filters (including clean, sharpen, restore colours) in the preview to
speed up the preview.  This is IMO a problem since you can't see the
difference between the different filters until you do a full scan.
 I'd have to try some filters to be sure - I'm only using the "light"
setting.

Rob





Re: filmscanners: Need feedback on VueScan Idea

2001-03-14 Thread Tony Sleep

On Wed, 7 Mar 2001 09:08:20 +0100  Henk de Jong ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

  I'm sure we're all using at least 1280X1024...
 
 No, don't be too shure about that: I am working at 1024x768 on a 17" monitor
 ;-)

Huh. I'm currently working with Vuescan at 640x480 on a 10" monitor, since my 
NEC died explosively, shortly after the motorbike alternator, and (this week) 
the toilet pan self-destructed.

Regards 

Tony Sleep
http://www.halftone.co.uk - Online portfolio  exhibit; + film scanner info  
comparisons



filmscanners: What appears in Vuescan preview (was: analog gain)

2001-03-14 Thread Bob Shomler

I don't know about the 'analog gain', but I previewed 3 times 
last night, on the same image, and none of them picked up the 
'clean' function. I was getting discouraged, but the final scan 
came out beautifully clean. It would be nice if the 'clean' 
functions worked on the preview, ...

It used to.  The Restore colors, Clean and Sharpen functions were changed in Vuescan 
6.6.1 to only change (show result in) the scan, not show in the preview display.

There was a good bit of discussion near that time on the utility of the preview.  I 
recall that Ed wrote that its only purpose was for cropping, not to evaluate the 
effects of color or filter functions on the scan.  I think some of this may have been 
that filter functions performed on a full (or half) res scan would not produce the 
same result as they would on a low-res preview image.  In contemporaneous discussions 
Ed also wrote that some (if not all) of these functions were 3x3 pixel transforms; so 
seems reasonable that these might operate differently on low res image vs same image 
at higher res.

One can "preview" with almost full color and filter function now by performing a scan 
to vuescan scan window only  (turn off scan to files).  Not clear that it saves much 
if any time (may be system configuration dependent); if you also scan to file and 
results are satisfactory then you have the data file whereas if preview only then you 
have still to perform the real scan.  

An intermediate scan-view-test function that 1) only scanned to vuescan scan tab 
window, 2) applied all color adjust and filters, and 3) [possibly?] negated multiple 
passes (single pass) could get close to a color and clean-grain-sharpen evaluation 
preview (close in that there has been some discussion about color spaces and how color 
appears on monitor re device, output file color, and monitor profiles and selected 
color spaces.  There may be some windows vs mac differences too.

--
Bob Shomler
http://www.shomler.com/gallery.htm



Re: filmscanners: What appears in Vuescan preview (was: analog gain)

2001-03-14 Thread shAf

Bob writes ...

 I don't know about the 'analog gain', but I previewed 3 times
 last night, on the same image, and none of them picked up the
 'clean' function. ..., but the final scan
 came out beautifully clean. It would be nice if the 'clean'
 functions worked on the preview, ...

 It used to.  The Restore colors, Clean and Sharpen
 functions were changed in Vuescan 6.6.1 to only change
 (show result in) the scan, not show in the preview display.

 There was a good bit of discussion near that time
 on the utility of the preview.  I recall that Ed wrote
 that its only purpose was for cropping, not to evaluate ...

How can you expect the clean function to work correctly and
predictably, unless VS scanned at high res for the preview.  I don't
believe anyone wants this ... the preview scan should be quick and
dirty (... so to speak ...*smile*...)

Here is what you can do however.  Crop the preview as necessary
... and do a "scan device" and write no files ... subsequent "scan
memory" commands will show you how effective the "clean" (and other
parameters) are affecting the scan.  If you are scanning into a color
space much different from your monitor, the next thing to do is write
a 1/4 res JPEG with ICM embedded and view it in Photoshop (or some
other ICM savvy software).  If the color is finally perfect ... NOW
you can "scan memory" to a full res TIFF with the ICM embedded.

shAf  :o)




RE: filmscanners: Re: GeForce2 MX Graphics Card

2001-03-14 Thread Frank Paris

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Maris V. Lidaka,
 Sr.
 Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 6:28 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: filmscanners: Re: GeForce2 MX Graphics Card


 There is a review of 3 dual-monitor video cards at
 http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.html?i=1423

 I have just barely started reading it so I don't know how valuable it is.

 Maris

Here is a false statement in that review: "The final limitation deals with
the operating system Windows 2000 itself and not the dual display
technology. Windows 2000 has a limitation that prevents two separate
monitors running off the same card from running at different resolutions."
My friend has dual monitors with different resolutions going under Windows
2000 on the Matrox 450. Also there is this statement: "The one problem that
did arise from Matrox's lack of inclusion of a resolution selection utility
was that we could not set individual displays to different resolutions. This
could prove to be a problem in setups where the screen sizes are different.
This problem plauges all other dual display solutions while in Windows
2000." That also is false. There is indeed an interface for setting a
separate display resolution.

Frank Paris
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=62684 




filmscanners: Vuescan 7.0: Crop box not appearing

2001-03-14 Thread Joel Nisson

Ed:
With VS 7.0 (final, Mac OS), the crop box sometimes is not there.  Is this a
bug?

Joel Nisson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




RE: filmscanners: Independent Resolution on Dual Monitor Win2K

2001-03-14 Thread Frank Paris



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Larry Berman
 Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 7:29 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: filmscanners: Independent Resolution on Dual Monitor Win2K


 Hi Frank,

 They've only got independent resolution working with the latest Matrox
 drivers. I posted about it the other day. I'm currently running
 my 21 inch
 monitor at 1152x864 and an old 13 inch monitor (until my new 19 inch
 arrives) at 800x600 on my new Win2K system. Here's a link to the
 page with
 the latest Matrox drivers:
 http://www.matrox.com/mga/support/drivers/latest/home.cfm

 The drivers were released about a week after the review was
 written. That's
 why the conclusion is incorrect.

 Larry

I also made a couple posts about the new drivers. You probably missed them.
In any case, the review was wrong in claiming that the problem was with W2K.
The problem was with the drivers.

Frank Paris
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=62684




RE: filmscanners: Re: GeForce2 MX Graphics Card

2001-03-14 Thread Laurie Solomon

My friend has dual monitors with different resolutions going under Windows
2000 on the Matrox 450.

Frank have you actually checked out your friends system to see if your
friend actually is running the two monitors under different resolutions as
opposed to thinking he is.  I think you ought to before making the strong
statements that you have about the statements in the review being "false."
Since what the review claims as been experienced by other Win2k as well as
Win98 users with respect to not only Matrox cards but other cards as well,
it just might be the case that the statements are true and your friend is
mistaken in what they thought they actually were able to do with their dual
monitors - even with he Matrox 450 card.  That the manufacturer's specs may
say that a card can do such and such does not necessarily mean that it will
do it with all systems, OS. or platforms. Indeed, the Matrox web site, as a
footnote to its specifications the 450 dualhead display capabilities, says,
"* The level of DualHead capability is determined by the operating system."

I cannot say that the review statements are mistaken or that you are since I
do not own a Matrox 450 dual head card or use win2K in any flavor.  I use
Matrox 400 dualhead card under Win 98.


-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Frank Paris
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 8:36 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: filmscanners: Re: GeForce2 MX Graphics Card


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Maris V. Lidaka,
 Sr.
 Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 6:28 AM
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 Subject: Re: filmscanners: Re: GeForce2 MX Graphics Card


 There is a review of 3 dual-monitor video cards at
 http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.html?i=1423

 I have just barely started reading it so I don't know how valuable it is.

 Maris

Here is a false statement in that review: "The final limitation deals with
the operating system Windows 2000 itself and not the dual display
technology. Windows 2000 has a limitation that prevents two separate
monitors running off the same card from running at different resolutions."
My friend has dual monitors with different resolutions going under Windows
2000 on the Matrox 450. Also there is this statement: "The one problem that
did arise from Matrox's lack of inclusion of a resolution selection utility
was that we could not set individual displays to different resolutions. This
could prove to be a problem in setups where the screen sizes are different.
This problem plauges all other dual display solutions while in Windows
2000." That also is false. There is indeed an interface for setting a
separate display resolution.

Frank Paris
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Re: filmscanners: Yo Tokyo

2001-03-14 Thread Tony Sleep

On Mon, 12 Mar 2001 14:56:03 -0500  Harlee Little ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:

 This is the second set of  very nice Tony Sleep photographs that I have
 noticed  in the Volvomagazine. What part did  your desktop scanning and
 subsequent photoshop work play in the worklflow of the stories on Icleand
 and Tokyo.

:-) Absolutely none for the Tokyo BW's - I printed them all on bromide, using 
one of those quaint enlarger things. I haven't seen what they published yet.

The Iceand set was shot on colour neg (Fuji Superia 100 and 400) and I provided 
scans done on a Polaroid 4000 using Vuescan. There's a big 'however', however. 
The Art Ed also had the negs for a while, and I wouldn't put it past him to 
have had expensive hand prints done and then sent them to a repro house, 
because he is nervous of photographer-supplied scans. I have only seen the 
feature briefly and they certainly looked like my scans, but I don't know for 
sure.


Regards 

Tony Sleep
http://www.halftone.co.uk - Online portfolio  exhibit; + film scanner info  
comparisons



Re: filmscanners: ADMIN: List Insanity

2001-03-14 Thread Tony Sleep

On Tue, 13 Mar 2001 15:26:47 -0500  Richard N. Moyer 
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

 Tony - the consensus of some other list managers is that it is the 
 Naked Wife virus, which has taken a variety of servers down to their 
 knees, and hobbled others. Bringing them back up has resulted in 
 doubling, or more.  I really don't know, just what I hear. PC only.

TVM, but this list is running on Majordomo on a Unix-based server nowadays as a 
bought-in service. However it is true that Mrs Halftone is not best pleased 
with this list at times ;-)

Regards 

Tony Sleep
http://www.halftone.co.uk - Online portfolio  exhibit; + film scanner info  
comparisons



RE: filmscanners: Re: GeForce2 MX Graphics Card

2001-03-14 Thread Frank Paris



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Laurie Solomon
 Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 8:44 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: filmscanners: Re: GeForce2 MX Graphics Card


 My friend has dual monitors with different resolutions going
 under Windows
 2000 on the Matrox 450.

 Frank have you actually checked out your friends system to see if your
 friend actually is running the two monitors under different resolutions as
 opposed to thinking he is.  I think you ought to before making the strong
 statements that you have about the statements in the review being "false."
 Since what the review claims as been experienced by other Win2k as well as
 Win98 users with respect to not only Matrox cards but other cards as well,
 it just might be the case that the statements are true and your friend is
 mistaken in what they thought they actually were able to do with
 their dual
 monitors - even with he Matrox 450 card.  That the manufacturer's
 specs may
 say that a card can do such and such does not necessarily mean
 that it will
 do it with all systems, OS. or platforms. Indeed, the Matrox web
 site, as a
 footnote to its specifications the 450 dualhead display
 capabilities, says,
 "* The level of DualHead capability is determined by the
 operating system."

This guy has been a top flight software engineer for 25 years and a PC geek
since 1984. I trust him implicitly to know what he's talking about. I mean,
this is a no-brainer kind of thing. The other false statement in the review
is that the Matrox interface doesn't provide a place for specifying the
resolution of the second monitor independent of the primary. Even the
version of the software that had the bugs in it has this. I know that for a
fact because I have those drivers on my system. But why should you think I
know what I'm talking about anymore than my friend and co-worker? You're
whistlin' Dixie.

Frank Paris
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