Re: filmscanners: Monitor for Mac under $500?

2001-02-11 Thread Richard

 Berry,
 
 Those Apple 17" are worth a close look:
 - Flat sceen (verticaly and horizontaly;
 - Compensates for color shift and maintains color calibration (adjust its
 internal electron beam);
 - Two ports USB hub integrated.
 
 ..and good looking too :-)
 

I bought one myself last week with a G4 and am very pleased with it. Btw it
will only work with pre July '01 G4 Macs as it has an all in one power,
control and USB cable.

Everyone who has seen it on my desk has said "wow what a beautiful monitor",
and it certainly is.

Cost IR450.


Regards

Richard

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Re: filmscanners: Monitor for Mac under $500?

2001-02-11 Thread Berry Ives

on 2/11/01 3:50 AM, Richard at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Berry,
 
 Those Apple 17" are worth a close look:
 - Flat sceen (verticaly and horizontaly;
 - Compensates for color shift and maintains color calibration (adjust its
 internal electron beam);
 - Two ports USB hub integrated.
 
 ..and good looking too :-)
 
 
 I bought one myself last week with a G4 and am very pleased with it. Btw it
 will only work with pre July '01 G4 Macs as it has an all in one power,
 control and USB cable.
 
 Everyone who has seen it on my desk has said "wow what a beautiful monitor",
 and it certainly is.
 
 Cost IR450.
 
 
 Regards
 
 Richard
Richard,

I am confused by what you mean by "pre July '01 G4 Macs" since that is in
the future.  (We're not going back there again, are we? ; )

I understand that they work only with G4 Cubes and recent (last half of
2000) G4 tower (the ones that have 1000 Mb ethernet capability), and I have
the latter.

-Berry
 






Re: filmscanners: Monitor for Mac under $500?

2001-02-11 Thread Richard

 I bought one myself last week with a G4 and am very pleased with it. Btw it
 will only work with pre July '01 G4 Macs as it has an all in one power,
 control and USB cable.
 
 Everyone who has seen it on my desk has said "wow what a beautiful monitor",
 and it certainly is.
 
 Cost IR450.
 
 
 Regards
 
 Richard
 Richard,
 
 I am confused by what you mean by "pre July '01 G4 Macs" since that is in
 the future.  (We're not going back there again, are we? ; )
 
 I understand that they work only with G4 Cubes and recent (last half of
 2000) G4 tower (the ones that have 1000 Mb ethernet capability), and I have
 the latter.
 
 -Berry
 
 
Sorry you're right, too much late night scanning ;-)

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Regards

Richard

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RE: filmscanners: Monitor for Mac under $500?

2001-02-10 Thread Tony Sleep

On 9 Feb 2001 19:08:34 -0800  Frank Paris ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

 My recommendation is, whatever you do, don't get a 17" for digital darkroom
 stuff.

No, but it may be sensible to get two!

Regards 

Tony Sleep
http://www.halftone.co.uk - Online portfolio  exhibit; + film scanner info  
comparisons



Re: filmscanners: Monitor for Mac under $500?

2001-02-10 Thread Tony Sleep

On Fri, 09 Feb 2001 18:57:06 -0700  Berry Ives ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

 A much better deal would appear to be the NEC Multisync FE950+ 19" for $457
 including shipping. This has a flat screen and compact depth.

This monitor has been getting rave reviews in UK. I'm currently thinking about 
it myself, since my monitor just exploded for the 3rd and last time (an older 
NEC - I've got 2 of the FG series, fine screens with excellent image quality 
which hasn't deteriorated significantly - but both have needed expensive 
repairs, line transformer breakdown in both cases, plus failure of an IC on one 
after which it never had perfect geometry). 

Other 19" possibles appear to be the 

- Sony E400 or G400 
- Mitsubishi DiamondPro 920 
- Ilyama Visionmaster Pro 450

The only ones I've seen have been the E400 and a DiamondPro.

The Sony E400 was just superb. I doubt the more expensive G400 gives any better 
image quality, but it does come with a tailor-made profile and USB hub. This is 
what I will probably go for if/when I can scrape the money together. I've got a 
20yo Sony TV in the kitchen, and a 25yo Sony miniature tape recorder I still 
use for taping interviews, and I do detest unreliable kit :)

The Mitsubishi was poorly adjusted (brightness too high) and certainly in an 
overbright strip-lit environment, but image quality looked like it should be up 
there with the Sony if set properly. Naturally this was a magazine graphic 
designer's unit, she sits and picks holes in photographers' work on it, 
including mine :( 

Mitsubishi and Ilyama both seem to produce excellent monitors but have rather 
questionable QC which allows some units out with poor corner focus, dodgy 
geometry or misconvergence, from what I've read here and elsewhere. It can take 
a few swaps before you get a good one, and this makes buying cheap from a 
boxshifter a bit of a gamble unless you like waiting around for couriers.

I've looked at other units from Philips, Samsung, AOC, CTX and others I forget. 
Philips seemed very good for the money, but I have bought other Philips goods 
which have failed prematurely - their products seem to perform well but 
are built down to a price. The rest were not in the same league.

Regards 

Tony Sleep
http://www.halftone.co.uk - Online portfolio  exhibit; + film scanner info  
comparisons



RE: filmscanners: Monitor for Mac under $500?

2001-02-10 Thread Frank Paris

Yes, if you've got the space. I'd rather have a 21" and a 17" though.

Frank Paris
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 On 9 Feb 2001 19:08:34 -0800  Frank Paris ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 
  My recommendation is, whatever you do, don't get a 17" for 
 digital darkroom
  stuff.
 
 No, but it may be sensible to get two!
 
 Regards 
 
 Tony Sleep
 http://www.halftone.co.uk - Online portfolio  exhibit; + film 
 scanner info  
 comparisons



Re: filmscanners: Monitor for Mac under $500?

2001-02-10 Thread Raymond Carles

On Fri, 9 Feb 2001 18:57:06 -0700, Berry Ives wrote:

I'm wondering if I'm overlooking any options for Mac.  So far, I have
considered the Apple 17" CRT, which is real cute and has 2 USB ports but
expensive at $500 for a 17" (16" viewable).

A much better deal would appear to be the NEC Multisync FE950+ 19" for $457
including shipping. This has a flat screen and compact depth.

Any other recommendations?

--Berry

Berry,

Those Apple 17" are worth a close look:
- Flat sceen (verticaly and horizontaly;
- Compensates for color shift and maintains color calibration (adjust its
internal electron beam);
- Two ports USB hub integrated.

..and good looking too :-)

Sure enough, 21" displays are great to use ( I had one for 3 years) but
two 17" are a much better way to work. And you will often be able to get
2 of them for less than the price of a 21"!!

My advise: get two 17" displays right now if you can; otherwise, get the
best 17" you can + a cheap 14" and use this one to store your palettes.

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Have a good day!

Raymond Carles



Re: filmscanners: Monitor for Mac under $500?

2001-02-10 Thread Berry Ives

on 2/10/01 9:34 PM, Raymond Carles at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Fri, 9 Feb 2001 18:57:06 -0700, Berry Ives wrote:
 
 I'm wondering if I'm overlooking any options for Mac.  So far, I have
 considered the Apple 17" CRT, which is real cute and has 2 USB ports but
 expensive at $500 for a 17" (16" viewable).
 
 A much better deal would appear to be the NEC Multisync FE950+ 19" for $457
 including shipping. This has a flat screen and compact depth.
 
 Any other recommendations?
 
 --Berry
 
 Berry,
 
 Those Apple 17" are worth a close look:
 - Flat sceen (verticaly and horizontaly;
 - Compensates for color shift and maintains color calibration (adjust its
 internal electron beam);
 - Two ports USB hub integrated.
 
 ..and good looking too :-)
 
 Sure enough, 21" displays are great to use ( I had one for 3 years) but
 two 17" are a much better way to work. And you will often be able to get
 2 of them for less than the price of a 21"!!
 
 My advise: get two 17" displays right now if you can; otherwise, get the
 best 17" you can + a cheap 14" and use this one to store your palettes.

I appreciate all the informative comments on this monitor thread.  At least
three people have indicated that working with two monitors is the way to go.
I already have a decent 15" monitor (NEC Multisync XV15), or at least I have
always thought it pretty good.  Image looks better than an imac, although
it's 6 years old.  

They got me a fancy 19" Dell Trinitron at work, and it blows away everything
else on the floor...of course it's a government office in New Mexico!  But I
can see what I'm missing.

So if I was to go with a second monitor, I would still need a new video
card, I think, for my Mac G4 to support both.

Also, does PS 5.0 LE support two monitors, or is it not a function of the
software, but only the video card...?

Still, if an excellent 19" monitor can be had for maybe $100 less than the
cost of the Apple 17"...is Apple the only one with that kind of automated
color calibration? 

-Berry
 




RE: filmscanners: Monitor for Mac under $500?

2001-02-10 Thread Sumtingwong

I picked up a cheapo 17" at CompUSA for $149 less a $50 rebate.  Brand
new!!!

Spencer Stone
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My advise: get two 17" displays right now if you can; otherwise, get the
best 17" you can + a cheap 14" and use this one to store your palettes.

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Have a good day!

Raymond Carles




RE: filmscanners: Monitor for Mac under $500?

2001-02-09 Thread Frank Paris

My recommendation is, whatever you do, don't get a 17" for digital darkroom
stuff.

Frank Paris
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=62684

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 I'm wondering if I'm overlooking any options for Mac.  So far, I have
 considered the Apple 17" CRT, which is real cute and has 2 USB ports but
 expensive at $500 for a 17" (16" viewable).

 A much better deal would appear to be the NEC Multisync FE950+
 19" for $457
 including shipping. This has a flat screen and compact depth.

 Any other recommendations?

 --Berry