Re: [Finale] TRANSPOSITION -better way?
Ah, got it. So, just out of curiosity, if we are then looking at the Other selection using chromatic transposition, does that work a little differently? Using the method that you suggested, I first chose the canned transposition and then chose other. I'm thinking that this time, in chromatic rather than key, 6 in interval really is a sixth as a musician would understand it to be. To transpose up, use a positive number, down use a negative number. Then, alter changes the interval by 1/2 steps. So a perfect fifth would be interval 5 alteration 0. A diminished fifth would be interval 5 alteration -1. An augmented fifth would be interval 5 alteration 1. Is this correct? Thanks again for this information Robert! This is very interesting to me. Best, Karen Finale can do any arbitrary transposition. Makemusic has canned the most common ones in the pulldowns to make them easier to set up. The Key Alter parameter is fairly easy to understand. It just adds or takes away sharps/flats in the key signature. Only a programmer could love the values required for the Interval parameter (which refers to diatonic intervals). The confusing aspect for a musician is having to enter 6 for a seventh, 5 for a sixth, etc. But what you are really entering is the number of diatonic steps. A second is one diatonic step, a third is two, etc. Finale will show you the values for the canned transpositions if you first select the canned transposition you are interested in, and then select Other. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Go to the Transposition dialog for the staff. Instead of using the canned Eb transposition, select Other. Then set the Interval to 6 and the Key Alter to -9. Voila. Brilliant!! I did not know about this Robert! Thank you! -K -- Robert Patterson http://RobertGPatterson.com ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale -- Karen Guthery [EMAIL PROTECTED] ichat: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] More on the midi problem
To add to my previous plea for help, maybe I should add that I am using a Midisport 2x2. I have installed the latest driver but no difference. Really desperate !! Stan Lord ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] More on the midi problem
To add to my previous plea for help, maybe I should add that I am using a Midisport 2x2. I have installed the latest driver but no difference. Really desperate !! Stan Lord Sometimes you have to unplug and re-plug the USB cable and logout (or restart, in extreme cases) to get the MIDI working again. -Randolph Peters ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Time signature
Dear list, Something very strange on an imported file : I can't change the measure 1 time signature. When I apply different time signatures to measure 1 through End of piece, the first measure stay in 1/4? (even when I delete it)?? Thanks for your responses. Pierre. ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Time signature
Do you have a pickup measure? Options -- Pickup Measure -- Clear pickup Richard Yates - Original Message - From: Pierre Bailleul [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 6:36 AM Subject: [Finale] Time signature Dear list, Something very strange on an imported file : I can't change the measure 1 time signature. When I apply different time signatures to measure 1 through End of piece, the first measure stay in 1/4? (even when I delete it)?? Thanks for your responses. Pierre. ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] New Indy CD distributor in Europe (ala CDBaby)
I thought, since I was introduced to CDBaby through this list, I should let you know that a similar distribution service is now available in Europe. Find it here: http://www.soundoo.com It actually seems to be better than CD Baby for classical. They have an introductory offer until the end of the year. I have no ties with them other that I just registered my labels CDs with them. I cannot speak of experience since my total time of relationship with them was only about 1 hour. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] even more .. midi
On Dec 13, 2004, at 1:49 AM, Stan Lord wrote: Well, I got it sorted. But I had to reinstall Finale. Fingers crossed, Oh, you tease. So close to haiku but not quite. How about this? I got it sorted. But I had to reinstall. Crossing my fingers. mdl ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] even more .. midi
On Monday, December 13, 2004, at 12:56 PM, Mark D Lew wrote: On Dec 13, 2004, at 1:49 AM, Stan Lord wrote: Well, I got it sorted. But I had to reinstall Finale. Fingers crossed, Oh, you tease. So close to haiku but not quite. How about this? I got it sorted. But I had to reinstall. Crossing my fingers. mdl Geez, what a mind! One of my percussionist friends was over at my house, and he started playing a mambo rhythm along with my washing machine. Same sort of thing with you, seeing haiku everywhere. Christopher ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Re: TRANSPOSITION
That's got it Robert. Thanks much. Boy, sometimes this List is great! All the best, KIM R On Dec 13, 2004, at 10:00 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Robert Patterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Finale] TRANSPOSITION -better way? To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Go to the Transposition dialog for the staff. Instead of using the canned Eb transposition, select Other. Then set the Interval to 6 and the Key Alter to -9. Voila. If you want standard Eb transposition for other parts of the piece, you can use a Staff Style to apply the special transposition to only the part of the piece that is in A major. Kim Richmond wrote: Maybe somebody can come up with the answer to this. I've got a piece in A concert. The alto saxophone part, when transposed, appears in F#, and I would rather have it appear in Gb. Selecting Simplify Key in Transposition dialog of Staff attributes doesn't do it. Also selecting Favor Flats in OptionEnharmonic Spelling does not do it. Any answers? All the best, KIM _ ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Re: TRANSPOSITION
Thanks David, but I AM the sax player that is going to read this, and I would much rather see Gb myself than the key of F#. What you suggest will work fine, I just didn't want to have to think about changing back when, at the end of extracting parts in Special Part Extraction, I produce a concert score. Thanks again, KIM R On Dec 13, 2004, at 10:00 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The sax player's gonna kill you either way for putting it in so many flats or sharps, but most alto players I know would far prefer sharps. But, if you insist on it being in Gb, once you have extracted the Alto part simply remove the transposition and change the key to be Gb and you'll be all set. -- David H. Bailey ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Re: TRANSPOSITION
Kim Richmond wrote: Thanks David, but I AM the sax player that is going to read this, and I would much rather see Gb myself than the key of F#. What you suggest will work fine, I just didn't want to have to think about changing back when, at the end of extracting parts in Special Part Extraction, I produce a concert score. Thanks again, I never work with special part extraction, preferring to have my extracted parts all as separate files, so it didn't occur to me that would be a problem. Enjoy the flats! :-) -- David H. Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Finale Digest, Vol 17, Issue 14
in reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 's question about SCSI CD burners: I'm using a Sony CD-RW CRX145S. It's fully supported in Toast for OS9 and OSX, and has native support in OSX. Only 10X, but that's not too bad, and it's been very reliable. --L ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Fwd: ????? a Finale question...
Dear Listers, I'm sure that this has been dealt with to death before, and for that I apologize. A dear friend asked for help. I made some possible suggestions, but there must be a real workaround. I don't know which version of Finale (for Mac) she is using, but it is probably no more recent than 2003--maybe earlier. Thank you for your help. Here is her request: This is driving me NUTS: I'm transcribing the Billings Virgin Unspotted. At the refrain, where it changes from 6/4 to 6/8, there's a pickup to the refrain that's already 2 16ths in the new meter. I can't find ANY mention of this in my Finale book--- ARGH! Do you happen to know how I do this?.. Best wishes, Steve Steve Barnett Composer/Arranger/Producer Barnett Music Productions [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---BeginMessage--- Steve, This is driving me NUTS: I'm transcribing the Billings Virgin Unspotted. At the refrain, where it changes from 6/4 to 6/8, there's a pickup to the refrain that's already 2 16ths in the new meter. I can't find ANY mention of this in my Finale book--- ARGH! Do you happen to know how I do this?.. Desperate in Freehold ---End Message--- ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Fwd: ????? a Finale question...
Just create a 2/16 bar and either: 1) Hide the 2/16 time signature with the Measure tool. 2) Make the 2/16 bar Use a different time signature for display (click More Choices in the TimeSig dialog) of 6/8. This will mess up measure numbers a bit since the 2/16 bar will be numbered despite its not-really-a-measure status, but you can define Measure Number Regions in the Measure tool to make numbers display correctly. Hope this helps! -Brad On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 15:54:40 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Listers, I'm sure that this has been dealt with to death before, and for that I apologize. A dear friend asked for help. I made some possible suggestions, but there must be a real workaround. I don't know which version of Finale (for Mac) she is using, but it is probably no more recent than 2003--maybe earlier. Thank you for your help. Here is her request: This is driving me NUTS: I'm transcribing the Billings Virgin Unspotted. At the refrain, where it changes from 6/4 to 6/8, there's a pickup to the refrain that's already 2 16ths in the new meter. I can't find ANY mention of this in my Finale book--- ARGH! Do you happen to know how I do this?.. Best wishes, Steve Steve Barnett Composer/Arranger/Producer Barnett Music Productions [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Forwarded message -- From: Natalka Pavlovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Steve Barnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 15:08:08 -0500 Subject: ? a Finale question... Steve, This is driving me NUTS: I'm transcribing the Billings Virgin Unspotted. At the refrain, where it changes from 6/4 to 6/8, there's a pickup to the refrain that's already 2 16ths in the new meter. I can't find ANY mention of this in my Finale book--- ARGH! Do you happen to know how I do this?.. Desperate in Freehold ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale -- Brad Beyenhof [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Secondary/tertiary beams
At 03:21 AM 12/14/2004, Michael Cook wrote: You're right: this is standard beaming and Finale doesn't have an option that produces the effect you require. Do send a message to MakeMusic asking them to fix it! I ran into a similar problem last year and sent an email. My workaround was rather lengthy, involving duplicate notation in a second layer. I think in my case this was also needed to work around a spacing bug in the same notation. - Use the Beam Extension Tool in Special Tools to make the 16th beams extend full length. That's brilliant -- I didn't realize that you could double click the handles to choose which beams you're working with. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: Some e-mail tips
Jari Williamsson wrote: Hello! Thunderbird users: There's an extension available called Quote Colors which is quite good for discussion groups like this, when quotes get nested. https://update.mozilla.org/extensions/?application=thunderbird (It's in the Page Display section) If you use some other e-mail client, consider switching! This is a great application (now in version 1.0)! And it's absolutely free, both Windows and Mac, import your old mails and contacts. [The spam filter in Thunderbird is really, really good. However, please note that it's learning along the way, so it might do a few mistakes during the first week after the install or so. But as you learn it what's spam and what's not, it very quickly become excellent.] http://www.mozilla.org/products/thunderbird/ And at the same time, make sure to replace IE/Netscape/Opera/Mozilla/etc with Firefox 1.0... ;-) http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/ Best regards, Jari Williamsson ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale Anyone who use a Windows email program should consider Thunderbird as the better alternative. I have no negative opinions about Microsoft's email client (and not much experience), however, the critical problem that makes it an *unacceptable* choice is that Microsoft tries to integrate their email clients with their applications -- and this feature is precisely what is leveraged by malicious people trying to plant spyware or other code in your system. If you value the security of your computer, you would do well not to use Microsoft's email clients. Thunderbird does not have the Microsoft type of integration or achitecture (i.e., programs that automatically launch from the email client) and therefore does not pose as much a security hazard; moreover, Thunderbird also offers a robust email experience. Thunderbird's isolation from your system integration is, in my opinion, the compelling reason why it is the better choice. At one major software company, use of Microsoft email clients was prohibited for this very reason: it can be a gateway for malicious code. Lastly, if you value your privacy and do not want to alert spammers that your email addressis alive and well, do not open email in html view (with links resolved) until you are certain that it does not contain hidden link-back references; instead use the menu command: View-Message Source [Ctrl-U]. Doing so will prevent any hidden link-backs (a trick which even reputable companies are now starting to use) from being activated. And, of course, Thunderbird's junk mail processing is a welcomed feature. I realize this is not Finale related, but the door has been opened and I feel this is a critical point for anyone interested in matters of email. -- John Poole Editions Poole http://www.editionspoole.com ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Time signature
It's Ok now. Thanks for your aid. Pierre. From: Richard Yates [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do you have a pickup measure? Options -- Pickup Measure -- Clear pickup Richard Yates - Original Message - From: Pierre Bailleul [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 6:36 AM Subject: [Finale] Time signature Dear list, Something very strange on an imported file : I can't change the measure 1 time signature. When I apply different time signatures to measure 1 through End of piece, the first measure stay in 1/4? (even when I delete it)?? Thanks for your responses. Pierre. ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] TRANSPOSITION -better way?
Man, I am stunned by how much some of you people know about our beloved (most of the time) Finale. I am constantly amazed! Dean On Dec 12, 2004, at 3:15 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Go to the Transposition dialog for the staff. Instead of using the canned Eb transposition, select Other. Then set the Interval to 6 and the Key Alter to -9. Voila. Brilliant!! I did not know about this Robert! Thank you! -K -- Karen Guthery [EMAIL PROTECTED] ichat: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale Para mí, la música es la respiración de la vida y de Dios. Per me, la musica è l'alito della vita e di Dio Pour moi, la musique est le souffle de la vie et de Dieu. Für mich ist Musik der Atem des Lebens und des Gottes. Dean M. Estabrook Director of Music St. Andrew Presbyterian Church Yuba City, CA ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: Some e-mail tips
At 12/13/2004 11:00 AM, John Poole [Finale Discussion] wrote: Anyone who use a Windows email program should consider Thunderbird as the better alternative. I have no negative opinions about Microsoft's email client (and not much experience), however, the critical problem that makes it an *unacceptable* choice is that Microsoft tries to integrate their email clients with their applications -- and this feature is precisely what is leveraged by malicious people trying to plant spyware or other code in your system. If you value the security of your computer, you would do well not to use Microsoft's email clients. Thunderbird does not have the Microsoft type of integration or achitecture (i.e., programs that automatically launch from the email client) and therefore does not pose as much a security hazard; moreover, Thunderbird also offers a robust email experience. Thunderbird's isolation from your system integration is, in my opinion, the compelling reason why it is the better choice. At one major software company, use of Microsoft email clients was prohibited for this very reason: it can be a gateway for malicious code. Lastly, if you value your privacy and do not want to alert spammers that your email addressis alive and well, do not open email in html view (with links resolved) until you are certain that it does not contain hidden link-back references; instead use the menu command: View-Message Source [Ctrl-U]. Doing so will prevent any hidden link-backs (a trick which even reputable companies are now starting to use) from being activated. And, of course, Thunderbird's junk mail processing is a welcomed feature. I realize this is not Finale related, but the door has been opened and I feel this is a critical point for anyone interested in matters of email. Good point, however, Eudora is a MUCH better email client. ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: Some e-mail tips
On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 13:10:33 -0500, Phil Daley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good point, however, Eudora is a MUCH better email client. Well, in your opinion, anyway... :) -- Brad Beyenhof [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: Some e-mail tips
John Poole [Finale Discussion] wrote: Lastly, if you value your privacy and do not want to alert spammers that your email addressis alive and well, do not open email in html view (with links resolved) until you are certain that it does not contain hidden link-back references; instead use the menu command: View-Message Source [Ctrl-U]. Doing so will prevent any hidden link-backs (a trick which even reputable companies are now starting to use) from being activated. Do you have a source saying that this is required? Because I think this step is unnecessary with Thunderbird, it's all part of the privacy protection feature (that's why external referenced pictures aren't loaded by default). Anyway, here are some more tips for browsing e-mail groups like this one: * Most of you probably know about the discussion Thread view, but for those of you who missed it click on the header for the leftmost column to sort by message threads. * The Message Grouping feature is a really good feature when sorting by date or by sender. Requires version 0.9 or later. Select View/Sort by/Grouped By Sort and messages sorted by dates will be grouped as Today, Yesterday, Last week, etc. And MUCH easier to focus on message be a single poster, for example. Best regards, Jari Williamsson ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale dual processors
Just so I'm clear, Finale does NOT make use of the dual processor? Digital Performer will clearly perform better regardless of which I choose, since it takes advantage of dual processors. But Finale? I'm not sure what kind of real-world improvement I can expect with the upgrade. Sent via the WebMail system at cuisp.com ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Secondary/tertiary beams
On Dec 14, 2004, at 00:19, James Gilbert wrote: I'm beaming 16, 32rest, 32, 16, 32rest, 32 all together. I would like the 8th and 16th beams to extend the full length, across all the rests. (To do that I select 'extend secondary beams over rests' in the document options). I would like the 32nd beam to extend to the left of the stem a short distance, but not all the way to the 32rest. No matter what settings I change in the Document Options-Beams the 32nd note beam either goes to the right of the stem or it extends all the way over the previous 32rest. I'd like the 32nd note beam to look like the picture of the beams shown in the document options-beams page. (None of the special tools make any difference no matter the document option settings and no other document options seem to apply). In looking through various piano music for an example, they all seem to do it the way I want to do it, and the way I've always seen it, so it seems to be a standard way to do it (see Dvorak Humoreske). Oh, Patterson beams don't do anything either. Ideas? The way I've got around this in the past (and it's a dreadful kludge) is to enter the semiquavers as dotted notes, then drag the dots on top of the noteheads thus rendering them invisible. Then enter the rests as note-attached expressions. This makes the tertiary beams the right length. It's not very elegant but it works and playback is only mildly affected. John ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Upgrade behavior Was [Re: [Finale] OT: Some e-mail tips]
John Poole [Finale Discussion] wrote: I have no negative opinions about Microsoft's email client (and not much experience), however, the critical problem that makes it an *unacceptable* choice is that Microsoft tries to integrate their email clients with their applications -- and this feature is precisely what is leveraged by malicious people trying to plant spyware or other code in your system. but it's not only MS that does this. When I installed the WINFin 2k5 update, I decided to also install the latest version of Adobe's Acrobat Reader. The attempt failed, because the version of one of the MS programs (IE, probably, rather than the email client) needed to be updated. Not too big a problem; although the links don't work, I can otherwise read the user's manual using Ghostview. ns ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
