Re: [Finale] Vista (?)

2007-01-31 Thread Marcello Noia
A good bunch of reasons not to upgrade to Vista (yet)
http://www.digitmag.co.uk/blogs/index.cfm?entryid=220blogid=2
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 Mine has been ordered. I will report. 
 
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 Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 11:47 AM
 To: finale@shsu.edu
 Subject: [Finale] Vista (?)
 
 To all the PC gurus and/or beta-testers on the list, I know 
 it's probably a little too early to ask, but have you had the 
 time and/or opportunity to form an opinion - or develop a gut 
 feeling - of how our favorite program will run under MS's new 
 OS? I'm not asking so much for myself, as we do most of our 
 work on Macs, but some of my students have been wondering.
 And they're probably not the only ones ...
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Re: [Finale] group name pratfall?

2007-01-31 Thread Noel Stoutenburg

Aaron Rabushka wrote:

Are there any other subtleties of this that i need to know
about?
  
One subtlety:  you can actually edit group names not only in the group 
attributes dialog, but in the edit text tool.  Deleting group names, 
abbreviated group names, using the edit text tool can result in 
unexpected results.  This is also true of staff names and abbreviated 
staff names.


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Re: [Finale] group name pratfall?

2007-01-31 Thread Aaron Sherber
You've gotten several serious answers to your questions. I just 
wanted to point out that unless your group names are throwing 
themselves down the stairs or getting hit with cream pies, you 
probably mean 'pitfall' instead of 'pratfall'. g


Aaron.

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[Finale] O.T. : First / Second Ending Repeat Bars...

2007-01-31 Thread Kim Patrick Clow

Hi all:

My editor mentioned that my notation for the first and second ending
wasn't standard notation. I have posted a screengrab of that here:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/graupner/firstsecond.jpg

Actually I thought this looked better than what the default Finale version was,
but what exactly is the correct notation for this? I just extended
line from the first
ending to touch the 2nd one. I guess I should assume this is one instance
where Finale's default setting is the correct one?

Thanks
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Re: [Finale] O.T. : First / Second Ending Repeat Bars...

2007-01-31 Thread dhbailey

Kim Patrick Clow wrote:

Hi all:

My editor mentioned that my notation for the first and second ending
wasn't standard notation. I have posted a screengrab of that here:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/graupner/firstsecond.jpg

Actually I thought this looked better than what the default Finale 
version was,

but what exactly is the correct notation for this? I just extended
line from the first
ending to touch the 2nd one. I guess I should assume this is one instance
where Finale's default setting is the correct one?



I hate it when the vertical hook at the end of the 1st ending touches 
the vertical hook at the start of the 2nd ending.


I always move the right-end vertical hook of the first ending so it is 
lined up with the left edge of the thicker of the two barlines in the 
repeat sign.  I leave the left-hand vertical hook of the 2nd ending 
lined up over the start of the measure.


And the horizontal line above the 1st ending should end at the vertical 
hook, so there is a slight gap between the right end of the horizontal 
line of the 1st ending and the start of the horizontal line above the 
2nd ending.


Look in any published music and that's what you'll find most of the 
time.   At least that's what I see most of the time in the music I 
perform from.


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Re: [Finale] O.T. : First / Second Ending Repeat Bars...

2007-01-31 Thread Aaron Sherber

At 08:46 AM 1/31/2007, Kim Patrick Clow wrote:
My editor mentioned that my notation for the first and second ending
wasn't standard notation. I have posted a screengrab of that here:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/graupner/firstsecond.jpg

Actually I thought this looked better than what the default Finale 
version was,

but what exactly is the correct notation for this? I just extended
line from the first
ending to touch the 2nd one. I guess I should assume this is one instance
where Finale's default setting is the correct one?

Looking at the appropriate pages in Ted Ross, he's got the first 
ending bracket aligned with the left edge of the thick bar of the 
repeat sign and the second ending bracket aligned with the right 
edge. Regardless of the exact alignment, I am used to seeing some 
space between the two brackets.


I think it is also common to have the numerals closer to the left 
side of the bracket, and to follow the numerals with periods.


Aaron.

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Re: [Finale] Vista (?)

2007-01-31 Thread Phil Daley

At 1/30/2007 02:46 PM, Eric Fiedler wrote:

To all the PC gurus and/or beta-testers on the list,
I know it's probably a little too early to ask, but have you had the
time and/or opportunity to form an opinion — or develop a gut feeling
— of how our favorite program will run under MS's new OS? I'm not
asking so much for myself, as we do most of our work on Macs, but
some of my students have been wondering.
And they're probably not the only ones ...

Finale 3.7 runs perfectly.

I don't have a newer version to test.

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Re(2): [Finale] FinMac 2007a Measure Width Units Frustration

2007-01-31 Thread Leigh Daniels
Right you are, Thomas! 

That did the trick. I was on a deadline so I was stressed. Thanks!

**Leigh

On Tue, Jan 30, 2007, Thomas Schaller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

the Document Options isn't enough - you have to go to the menu Edit- 
Measurement Units

don't you love that the good guys at MakeMusic always put things in  
different places with each new version (it used to be under the menu  
Options-Measurement Units) - I think they set themselves a goal to at  
least move 50 items to a different location - so we don't get bored  
in our work - kind of like a crossword puzzle.

I love it



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Re: [Finale] group name pratfall?

2007-01-31 Thread Aaron Rabushka
As a matter of fact, they were.

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 You've gotten several serious answers to your questions. I just 
 wanted to point out that unless your group names are throwing 
 themselves down the stairs or getting hit with cream pies, you 
 probably mean 'pitfall' instead of 'pratfall'. g
 
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Re: [Finale] tuplet pratfall?

2007-01-31 Thread Chuck Israels

Aaron,

We need more information to help you.  How are you creating the  
triplet?  My suggestion is to use speedy entry, go to the place in  
the measure where you want the triplet, hold down the option key, hit  
the number 3, (look for the little 3 in the upper RH corner of the  
Speedy Entry frame) and then enter the 16th notes (the value of the  
first triplet note must be a 16th in order for this to work).  See if  
this works.


Chuck



On Jan 30, 2007, at 8:51 PM, Aaron Rabushka wrote:


In the score I've been working on I have a situation where a 16th-note
triplet won't beam correctly--every time I try to join all three  
together it
joins the 8th-note beam across all three and gives me individual  
16th-note

flags for each one. Is there some pratfall that I'm walking into here?

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Re: [Finale] Vista (?)

2007-01-31 Thread Christopher Smith


On 31-Jan-07, at 3:07 AM, Marcello Noia wrote:


A good bunch of reasons not to upgrade to Vista (yet)
http://www.digitmag.co.uk/blogs/index.cfm?entryid=220blogid=2


I dunno, I'm even a Mac guy, and this guy doesn't seem to really know  
what he's talking about. While I'm happy that he seems to like Macs  
so much, many of his reasons don't hold water.


Anybody with some better data on Vista? I'm thinking of a MacPro that  
would be able to run Vista, so I would be interested in how it works.


Christopher



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Re: [Finale] Vista (?)

2007-01-31 Thread David W. Fenton
On 31 Jan 2007 at 11:17, Christopher Smith wrote:

 On 31-Jan-07, at 3:07 AM, Marcello Noia wrote:
 
  A good bunch of reasons not to upgrade to Vista (yet)
  http://www.digitmag.co.uk/blogs/index.cfm?entryid=220blogid=2
 
 I dunno, I'm even a Mac guy, and this guy doesn't seem to really know 
 what he's talking about. While I'm happy that he seems to like Macs 
 so much, many of his reasons don't hold water.

My reaction was more of a isn't all of this completely obvious, and 
always has been for every version of Windows that has ever existed?

I do think he's getting hit hard in the comments on the LCD issue, 
because there are some formats that exist on Windows PCs that may not 
have drivers for OS X.

 Anybody with some better data on Vista? I'm thinking of a MacPro that 
 would be able to run Vista, so I would be interested in how it works.

If you want to know about Vista, this set of reviews is exhaustive, 
and really gets into all the pros and cons:

  http://www.winsupersite.com/reviews/winvista.asp

It's a much better review than the one quoted (not least for being 
substantially more complete).

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Re: [Finale] Vista (?)

2007-01-31 Thread Phil Daley

At 1/31/2007 11:17 AM, Christopher Smith wrote:

On 31-Jan-07, at 3:07 AM, Marcello Noia wrote:

 A good bunch of reasons not to upgrade to Vista (yet)
 http://www.digitmag.co.uk/blogs/index.cfm?entryid=220blogid=2

I dunno, I'm even a Mac guy, and this guy doesn't seem to really know
what he's talking about. While I'm happy that he seems to like Macs
so much, many of his reasons don't hold water.

OK, that forced me to go read it.

Anybody with some better data on Vista? I'm thinking of a MacPro that
would be able to run Vista, so I would be interested in how it works.

My comments on Vista (I have been running it for 6 months)

1. It will not be pretty on 2 or 3 yo PCs.  You'd be better off buying a 
new PC with Vista installed.


2. It is annoying.  If you thought XP was a step backwards in UI design, 
Vista is 20 steps backwards in UI design.
You cannot find anything you are familiar with.  You cannot modify zillions 
of files that you used to have access to.
You cannot keep data in the same directory as the program, which is what I 
always do, so that it is simple to transfer the stuff to a new system

The start menu is totally changed.  You can't find anything on it.
The always searching stuff slows everything down a lot.

3.  I run XP at home.  I may never upgrade unless I find something I 
absolutely need.

I won't upgrade at work until I am forced to.

I am thinking a MacPro will NOT be able to run Vista.

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[Finale] Chords in playback

2007-01-31 Thread Stig Christensen

Hi,

I have forgotten how to turn of playback of chords. Somebody remember?

regards
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Re: [Finale] Chords in playback

2007-01-31 Thread Christopher Smith


On 31-Jan-07, at 11:14 AM, Stig Christensen wrote:


Hi,

I have forgotten how to turn of playback of chords. Somebody remember?


In the Chord Menu, Enable Chord Playback, uncheck it. This turns off  
chord playback for the entire piece in all staves.


You can do the same thing staff by staff from the Instrument List,  
just click the triangle beside an instrument name to open the list of  
playback items and uncheck Chords.


Christopher


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Re: [Finale] Vista (?)

2007-01-31 Thread Christopher Smith


On 31-Jan-07, at 12:10 PM, Phil Daley wrote:


At 1/31/2007 11:17 AM, Christopher Smith wrote:

Anybody with some better data on Vista? I'm thinking of a MacPro that
would be able to run Vista, so I would be interested in how it works.

My comments on Vista (I have been running it for 6 months)

2. It is annoying.  If you thought XP was a step backwards in UI  
design, Vista is 20 steps backwards in UI design.


Oh, crap. I had assumed they had borrowed a bunch of the ease-of-use  
things that everyone liked about OSX. I guess not.



You cannot find anything you are familiar with.  You cannot modify  
zillions of files that you used to have access to.


This won't affect me much, as I would be a relative newcomer to the  
PC side. The lack of access to the bones of the system (I assume  
that's what you mean) I would be totally comfortable with, as Mac OSX  
is a lot like that, too.


The only thing I like a little less about OSX is the implied  
assumption that Mac knows better than you do, kind of like the way  
Word corrects my capitalisations and punctuation without asking me (I  
turned all that off a long time ago, but get caught by it on other  
people's computers.)



I am thinking a MacPro will NOT be able to run Vista.


This is more to the point. Do you know any reasons why not?

I already know that Boot Camp on Mac won't address certain things  
like dual monitors and MIDI/audio almost certainly will be an issue,  
but I thought Parallels (running Windows inside an OSX window) might  
be a viable option. I understand that you can even copy/paste from a  
Windows app to an OSX app! That seems amazing to me!


And David Fenton, thank you for the excellent link. I will read it  
all quite soon.


Christopher


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Re: [Finale] Vista (?)

2007-01-31 Thread Daniel Wolf
Everyone has had different experiences with Windows machines, but on the 
basis of Win98, which was seriously flawed until Win98SE came out (and 
MS didn't offer free upgrades), and WinXP, which took two service packs 
to solve some serious issues (and the second Service Pack doesn't load 
on all installations), I'm going to wait this one out a while, at least 
until some version two of Vista comes out.


In the meantime, I've move so much over to Linux that Finale is the only 
program I need to use which requires Windows.


Daniel Wolf
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Re: [Finale] Vista (?)

2007-01-31 Thread Phil Daley

At 1/31/2007 12:29 PM, Christopher Smith wrote:

 I am thinking a MacPro will NOT be able to run Vista.

This is more to the point. Do you know any reasons why not?

It has super copy protection stuff so that it doesn't even install/run on 
all PCs that well.


I would make sure that someone has done that before buying it.

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Re: [Finale] Vista (?)

2007-01-31 Thread David W. Fenton
On 31 Jan 2007 at 12:10, Phil Daley wrote:

 At 1/31/2007 11:17 AM, Christopher Smith wrote:
 
  On 31-Jan-07, at 3:07 AM, Marcello Noia wrote:
  
   A good bunch of reasons not to upgrade to Vista (yet)
   http://www.digitmag.co.uk/blogs/index.cfm?entryid=220blogid=2 
  I dunno, I'm even a Mac guy, and this guy doesn't seem to really
  know what he's talking about. While I'm happy that he seems to like
  Macs so much, many of his reasons don't hold water.
 
 OK, that forced me to go read it.
 
  Anybody with some better data on Vista? I'm thinking of a MacPro
  that would be able to run Vista, so I would be interested in how it
  works.
 
 My comments on Vista (I have been running it for 6 months)
 
 1. It will not be pretty on 2 or 3 yo PCs.  You'd be better off buying
 a new PC with Vista installed.

This has been the case with every version of Windows I've ever known 
(going back to 3.0). Why it should be surprising to anyone, I can't 
say -- Windows has never been good with upgrades and I never do it 
for my clients, ever. They get a new version of Windows when they get 
a new PC, and that's good enough. Upgrading violates the principle of 
if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

 2. It is annoying.  If you thought XP was a step backwards in UI
 design, Vista is 20 steps backwards in UI design. You cannot find
 anything you are familiar with. 

This is just a matter of unfamiliarity.

 You cannot modify zillions of files
 that you used to have access to. 

You don't *need* modify access to those files. Files you *need* 
access to should be stored in your user profile, which is under your 
full control. Any looser access to application and OS space is 
dangerous.

 You cannot keep data in the same
 directory as the program, which is what I always do, so that it is
 simple to transfer the stuff to a new system The start menu is totally
 changed.

Applications and user data should *always* be kept separate:

1. for backup purposes -- you only occasionally need to backup 
applications folders, which basically don't change. You frequently 
need to back up data.

2. for security purposes -- you need to have full control 
(read/write/delete) on your data files, but you *don't* need that 
control on application files. If application files have those 
permissions, then you're exposed to malicious programs that change 
your application files to do hidden and nasty things. With 
applications and data in separate locations, you can have full access 
to the data that *should* be editable and read-only access to the 
data that has no need to be editable.

This latter concept has been the basis for all the UNIX installations 
since forever, since it makes particular sense for multi-user 
systems, where you don't want to mix up many users' data into 
application areas that might be used by multiple people.

And why you would think it would be simple to transfer an application 
to a new system by copying its application folder, I don't know. 
Windows applciations have not existed as just files in an application 
folder for, oh, I don't, 15 years? They depend on registry entries 
and libraries stored in common locations, so you can't just copy the 
app from one machine to another.

You sound like a refugee from DOS 3.x days (i.e., late 80s) who has 
no comprehension of how Windows works (and has worked as long as 
Windows has existed).

  You can't find anything on it. The always searching stuff
 slows everything down a lot.

Sounds like simple unfamiliarity to me.

 3.  I run XP at home.  I may never upgrade unless I find something I
 absolutely need. I won't upgrade at work until I am forced to.

Nobody is forcing you to upgrade.

 I am thinking a MacPro will NOT be able to run Vista.

I believe that originally the IntelMac version of what is called a 
BIOS on a PC was incompatible with Vista, but I believe that hurdle 
has been cleared (but have no details on it).

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Re: [Finale] Vista (?)

2007-01-31 Thread David W. Fenton
On 31 Jan 2007 at 12:50, Phil Daley wrote:

 At 1/31/2007 12:29 PM, Christopher Smith wrote:
 
   I am thinking a MacPro will NOT be able to run Vista.
  
  This is more to the point. Do you know any reasons why not?
 
 It has super copy protection stuff so that it doesn't even install/run
 on all PCs that well.
 
 I would make sure that someone has done that before buying it.

Did you consider trying a little Googling to see if your gut belief 
was true? Why would a died-in-the-wool PC user assume that his 
guesses about the Mac would be correct?

In any event:

http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=14448
 -- Vista RTM works with Bootcamp 1.1.2

The end of the discussion has lots of reports of success, though it 
seems to be easiest to install WinXP in boot camp and run a Vista 
upgrade with clean install from WinXP.

The point is -- IT WORKS ALREADY, which you could have found out 
yourself if you'd made any effort at all.

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Re: [Finale] Vista (?)

2007-01-31 Thread Phil Daley

At 1/31/2007 01:40 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:

 You cannot modify zillions of files
 that you used to have access to.

You don't *need* modify access to those files. Files you *need*
access to should be stored in your user profile, which is under your
full control. Any looser access to application and OS space is
dangerous.

I AM talking about Documents and Settings, those files are now protected 
and non-modifiable.


And why you would think it would be simple to transfer an application
to a new system by copying its application folder, I don't know.
Windows applciations have not existed as just files in an application
folder for, oh, I don't, 15 years? They depend on registry entries
and libraries stored in common locations, so you can't just copy the
app from one machine to another.

I know how to.

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Re: [Finale] Vista (?)

2007-01-31 Thread David W. Fenton
On 31 Jan 2007 at 13:57, Phil Daley wrote:

 At 1/31/2007 01:40 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:
 
   You cannot modify zillions of files
   that you used to have access to.
  
  You don't *need* modify access to those files. Files you *need*
  access to should be stored in your user profile, which is under your
  full control. Any looser access to application and OS space is
  dangerous.
 
 I AM talking about Documents and Settings, those files are now
 protected and non-modifiable.

Which ones? Your document files or your application settings files?

I will say that PC software makers have been completely derelict in 
the way they design their applications. A client of mine is an 
accountant, and accounting and tax software of all kinds is extremely 
poorly designed and requires admin-level logons or permissions tweaks 
to get it to run without admin-level logon. And many of the tax 
packages download tax form data and store it in the application 
folder, when it ought to be stored outside the application folder.

  And why you would think it would be simple to transfer an
  application to a new system by copying its application folder, I
  don't know. Windows applciations have not existed as just files in
  an application folder for, oh, I don't, 15 years? They depend on
  registry entries and libraries stored in common locations, so you
  can't just copy the app from one machine to another.
 
 I know how to.

You mean you will go through the difficulty of hunting down the 
missing DLLs and copying them somewhere, and, perhaps, exporting the 
old registry keys for import into the new PC's registry? Been there, 
done that -- it's much easier and more reliable (and safer) to just 
run the application installer. I've never tried copying except when 
the application installer was lost.

There are a few simple Windows applications (or complex applications 
designed with an old-style philosophy of keeping all application 
files in one place and storing settings in files instead of the 
registry) that can be copied. But most of them can't without a huge 
amount of effort figuring out what components need to be brought over 
from the old PC.

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Re: [Finale] Vista (?)

2007-01-31 Thread Phil Daley

At 1/31/2007 02:13 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:

On 31 Jan 2007 at 13:57, Phil Daley wrote:

 At 1/31/2007 01:40 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:

   You cannot modify zillions of files
   that you used to have access to.
  
  You don't *need* modify access to those files. Files you *need*
  access to should be stored in your user profile, which is under your
  full control. Any looser access to application and OS space is
  dangerous.

 I AM talking about Documents and Settings, those files are now
 protected and non-modifiable.

Which ones? Your document files or your application settings files?

Settings files

  And why you would think it would be simple to transfer an
  application to a new system by copying its application folder, I
  don't know. Windows applciations have not existed as just files in
  an application folder for, oh, I don't, 15 years? They depend on
  registry entries and libraries stored in common locations, so you
  can't just copy the app from one machine to another.

 I know how to.

You mean you will go through the difficulty of hunting down the
missing DLLs and copying them somewhere, and, perhaps, exporting the
old registry keys for import into the new PC's registry? Been there,
done that -- it's much easier and more reliable (and safer) to just
run the application installer. I've never tried copying except when
the application installer was lost.

Yep, no longer have the installer.

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Re: [Finale] Vista (?)

2007-01-31 Thread David W. Fenton
On 31 Jan 2007 at 14:30, Phil Daley wrote:

 At 1/31/2007 02:13 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:
 
  On 31 Jan 2007 at 13:57, Phil Daley wrote:
  I AM talking about Documents and Settings,
  those files are now protected and non-modifiable. 

 Which ones? Your document files or your application settings files?
 
 Settings files

But why do you need to edit those? Don't your applications provide 
UIs for changing their settings?

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Re: [Finale] Vista (?)

2007-01-31 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Maybe if you two are going to go back and forth on this, you can do it 
privately?


David W. Fenton wrote:

On 31 Jan 2007 at 14:30, Phil Daley wrote:

  

At 1/31/2007 02:13 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:

 On 31 Jan 2007 at 13:57, Phil Daley wrote:


I AM talking about Documents and Settings,
those files are now protected and non-modifiable. 
  


  

Which ones? Your document files or your application settings files?
  

Settings files



But why do you need to edit those? Don't your applications provide 
UIs for changing their settings?


  


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Re: [Finale] Vista (?)

2007-01-31 Thread Darcy James Argue
Here's a report on running Vista using Parallels (i.e., emulation) --  
it works, but not very well:


http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/software/vista-on-intel-mac-with-parallels- 
not-quite-there-232596.php


Boot Camp, on the other hand (i.e., installing Vista on the Mac and  
rebooting into Vista) works great -- see here:


http://blog.wired.com/cultofmac/2007/01/running_vista_o.html

- Darcy
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Brooklyn, NY



On 31 Jan 2007, at 12:29 PM, Christopher Smith wrote:

I already know that Boot Camp on Mac won't address certain things  
like dual monitors and MIDI/audio almost certainly will be an  
issue, but I thought Parallels (running Windows inside an OSX  
window) might be a viable option. I understand that you can even  
copy/paste from a Windows app to an OSX app! That seems amazing to me!

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[Finale] How to eliminate ledger lines in specific measures?

2007-01-31 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
Hi all,

I can't find how to eliminate ledger lines in specific areas.

There is a section where notes are placed on a one-line staff, but as soon
as the pitches get above or below the now-invisible lines 1 2 4 and 5,
there are ledger lines. I can't eliminate them entirely because I need them
in other areas of the score.

There doesn't seem to be a staff style setting for this. Any hints other
than to place noteheads as graphics? (No fun ... that doesn't play back.)

Thanks,
Dennis






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Re: [Finale] How to eliminate ledger lines in specific measures?

2007-01-31 Thread Robert Patterson

Use the Hide Leger Lines plugin (from Makemusic).

On 1/31/07, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi all,

I can't find how to eliminate ledger lines in specific areas.

There is a section where notes are placed on a one-line staff, but as soon
as the pitches get above or below the now-invisible lines 1 2 4 and 5,
there are ledger lines. I can't eliminate them entirely because I need
them
in other areas of the score.

There doesn't seem to be a staff style setting for this. Any hints other
than to place noteheads as graphics? (No fun ... that doesn't play back.)

Thanks,
Dennis






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Re: [Finale] How to eliminate ledger lines in specific measures?

2007-01-31 Thread Aaron Sherber

At 05:30 PM 1/31/2007, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote:
I can't find how to eliminate ledger lines in specific areas.

Select the region with Mass Edit, and then do Plugins | Note Beam  
Rest | Ledger Lines (Hide).


You can also do this by hand with the Edit Frame dialog, but I'm 
guessing that the plugin will be quicker for you.


Aaron.

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Re: [Finale] Chords in playback

2007-01-31 Thread Stig Christensen

Thank You,

There are some differencies between the Windows and Mac version, or  
maybe I just forgot!!


Den 31/01/2007 kl. 18.32 skrev Christopher Smith:



On 31-Jan-07, at 11:14 AM, Stig Christensen wrote:


Hi,

I have forgotten how to turn of playback of chords. Somebody  
remember?


In the Chord Menu, Enable Chord Playback, uncheck it. This turns  
off chord playback for the entire piece in all staves.


You can do the same thing staff by staff from the Instrument List,  
just click the triangle beside an instrument name to open the list  
of playback items and uncheck Chords.


Christopher


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Re: [Finale] How to eliminate ledger lines in specific measures?

2007-01-31 Thread Barbara Touburg

Mass mover tool: select the area and apply the hide ledger lines plugin.

Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote:

Hi all,

I can't find how to eliminate ledger lines in specific areas.

There is a section where notes are placed on a one-line staff, but as soon
as the pitches get above or below the now-invisible lines 1 2 4 and 5,
there are ledger lines. I can't eliminate them entirely because I need them
in other areas of the score.

There doesn't seem to be a staff style setting for this. Any hints other
than to place noteheads as graphics? (No fun ... that doesn't play back.)

Thanks,
Dennis






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[Finale] Re: How to eliminate ledger lines in specific measures?

2007-01-31 Thread shirling neueweise


Select the region with Mass Edit, and then do Plugins | Note Beam  
Rest | Ledger Lines (Hide).
You can also do this by hand with the Edit Frame dialog, but I'm 
guessing that the plugin will be quicker for you.


use an iKeys shortcut for it.  fraction of a second, no menu pop-down 
or anything.


bing bang boom!

yes a silly oversight, isn't it?  does anyone need ledger lines on 1- 
or 2- or 3-line staves?


well, um, let me think, um, no.

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Re: [Finale] How to eliminate ledger lines in specific measures?

2007-01-31 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 04:48 PM 1/31/2007 -0600, Robert Patterson wrote:
Use the Hide Leger Lines plugin (from Makemusic).

Thanks very much to you and Aaron. There are just so many places to look
these days, especially for something that I don't use often. I even looked
in your plugins, Robert, but not the native Finale ones!

Dennis



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[Finale] Lyrics Question

2007-01-31 Thread Neal Gittleman

Greetings...

FinMac 2k7b, a project with lyrics.  I'm getting no hyphens and no  
word extensions on screen or in print.  In Edit Lyrics the hyphens  
are all there.  I've got Use Smart Word Extensions and Create  
Automatically... checked in the Lyrics Prefs/Word Extensions menu.


There must be something I'm missing (besides the hyphens and  
extensions!)...


Any suggestions?

Thanks...

ng
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[Finale] Insert measures bug (was Confirm 2 bugs some time ago)

2007-01-31 Thread Rafael L. Junchaya

FinWin 2k7b

This has been commented before, but now I faced this bug. In a file (created 
in Fin2k, edited thru every version until 2k7b) of a piece for orchestra, 
about 250 measures, I decided to insert some music at the beggining (some 25 
measures). I worked this measures in a different file (I balnaked my 
original file and saved it with another name, just to retain everything) and 
when I tried to insert the new measures in my original file, Finale just 
crashed (in fact, it just closed without notice) once, twice, everytime. I 
tested saving clip files but nothing worked, the same chrashing every time. 
Then I remembered that I was playing with the piccolo part (I mean, I 
created this linked part only to try some formatting) and thought this could 
be the annoying thing. I deleted it and voilà, I could insert the music 
without problems. I guess there's still some (should I say a lot of?) work 
to do with linked parts. For sure, they could be useful in some 
circomstances, but might become a pain in the butt in another.


So, if some of you got the same trouble, maybe this info coulb be useful.


Rafael L. Junchaya 


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Re: [Finale] Vista (?)

2007-01-31 Thread Mark D Lew


On Jan 31, 2007, at 10:52 AM, David W. Fenton wrote:


Did you consider trying a little Googling to see if your gut belief
was true? Why would a died-in-the-wool PC user assume that his
guesses about the Mac would be correct?


Unless the PC users have been smothered in a pile of sweaters, I  
think I spot an eggcorn!


mdl
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