[Finale] bariolage beaming
I know this has been discussed in the past, but I forgot what the outcome was, and perhaps there are better ways in newer versions? What is the best way to get bariolage beaming? Ie, first note down, second note up, third note down, fourth note up, all ups beamed to gether, all downs beamed together. I know this is possible with some canny workarounds, but what is the best way to do it? Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] setting size of notes in layer 2 (or others)
In a message dated 11/03/2007 00:47:13 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Set your layer to 2. One of the cool things about Show... is that edits applied to the showing layer DO NOT affect other layers. Thanks! The above is something I had no idea about - it makes lots of things for this piece much easier to do! Cheers, Lawrence lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] bariolage beaming
I would suggest using separate layers for stems-up and stems-down, hiding the rests, then using Robert Patterson's Beam Selection plugin to create the beams. Cheers, - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY On 11 Mar 2007, at 10:44 AM, Johannes Gebauer wrote: I know this has been discussed in the past, but I forgot what the outcome was, and perhaps there are better ways in newer versions? What is the best way to get bariolage beaming? Ie, first note down, second note up, third note down, fourth note up, all ups beamed to gether, all downs beamed together. I know this is possible with some canny workarounds, but what is the best way to do it? Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] bariolage beaming
On 11.03.2007 Darcy James Argue wrote: I would suggest using separate layers for stems-up and stems-down, hiding the rests, then using Robert Patterson's Beam Selection plugin to create the beams. That, unfortunately, doesn't work, as it breaks the secondary beams on the rests as soon as I hide the rest, no matter what I do. That is precisely the dilemma. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] tuplet slurs
Are there settings for tuplet slurs which produce acceptable slurs? So far I have been completely unsuccessful trying to get slurs which look like slurs. So I have used real slurs instead, but that has the disadvantage of ignoring the tuplet numbers for the slur placement. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] bariolage beaming
Hey Johannes, Sorry, I thought these were just eighths -- didn't realize there were secondary beams involved. I assume you can't just check Extend Secondary Beams Over Rests? (It affects the entire document, obviously.) Cheers, - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY On 11 Mar 2007, at 11:43 AM, Johannes Gebauer wrote: On 11.03.2007 Darcy James Argue wrote: I would suggest using separate layers for stems-up and stems-down, hiding the rests, then using Robert Patterson's Beam Selection plugin to create the beams. That, unfortunately, doesn't work, as it breaks the secondary beams on the rests as soon as I hide the rest, no matter what I do. That is precisely the dilemma. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] tuplet slurs
On 11 Mar 2007, at 12:22 PM, Johannes Gebauer wrote: Are there settings for tuplet slurs which produce acceptable slurs? No. Cheers, - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] bariolage beaming
On 11 Mar 2007, at 12:26 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: I assume you can't just check Extend Secondary Beams Over Rests? (It affects the entire document, obviously.) Oh, wait -- I see that doesn't even work. Hidden rests *always* break secondary beams. What a pain. Cheers, - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] bariolage beaming
At 04:43 PM 3/11/2007 +0100, Johannes Gebauer wrote: On 11.03.2007 Darcy James Argue wrote: I would suggest using separate layers for stems-up and stems-down, hiding the rests, then using Robert Patterson's Beam Selection plugin to create the beams. That, unfortunately, doesn't work, as it breaks the secondary beams on the rests as soon as I hide the rest, no matter what I do. That is precisely the dilemma. You can do that, then use the extend secondary beam tool, choose the left handle, double click for the dialog box, check only the secondary beams (not the primary beam), and drag it to the right. If you dislike the tiny gap it leaves on the left side, grab the right handle and drag it to the left. Dennis ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] bariolage beaming
It's tedious, but I've gotten good results by throwing hidden tuplets into the mix: no need for hidden rests then. (That is, 3 16ths in the time of 3 8ths, or whatever.) On 3/11/07, Darcy James Argue [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Johannes, Sorry, I thought these were just eighths -- didn't realize there were secondary beams involved. I assume you can't just check Extend Secondary Beams Over Rests? (It affects the entire document, obviously.) Cheers, - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY On 11 Mar 2007, at 11:43 AM, Johannes Gebauer wrote: On 11.03.2007 Darcy James Argue wrote: I would suggest using separate layers for stems-up and stems-down, hiding the rests, then using Robert Patterson's Beam Selection plugin to create the beams. That, unfortunately, doesn't work, as it breaks the secondary beams on the rests as soon as I hide the rest, no matter what I do. That is precisely the dilemma. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] bariolage beaming
On 11.03.2007 Darcy James Argue wrote: Oh, wait -- I see that doesn't even work. Hidden rests *always* break secondary beams. What a pain. Indeed. And for no reason I can find. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] bariolage beaming
On 11.03.2007 Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: You can do that, then use the extend secondary beam tool, choose the left handle, double click for the dialog box, check only the secondary beams (not the primary beam), and drag it to the right. If you dislike the tiny gap it leaves on the left side, grab the right handle and drag it to the left. You mean, I should do that for like 12 measures? Isn't there a better way to do this? Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] bariolage beaming
On 11.03.2007 Darcy James Argue wrote: I assume you can't just check Extend Secondary Beams Over Rests? (It affects the entire document, obviously.) Try it, as soon as you hide the rests this setting does not have any effect any more. At least as far as I can work out. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] bariolage beaming
On 11.03.2007 Robert Patterson wrote: It's tedious, but I've gotten good results by throwing hidden tuplets into the mix: no need for hidden rests then. (That is, 3 16ths in the time of 3 8ths, or whatever.) I am not sure I get this. I am talking about four note patterns. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] bariolage beaming
On 3/11/07, Johannes Gebauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am not sure I get this. I am talking about four note patterns. Here's how to do 4-patterns of 16ths and have them all metrically align correctly. (That is, 2 stems up and 2 stems down in each group.) All tuplets are hidden. L1: 2 16ths in the time of 2 8ths. L2: hidden 16th rest, 1 16th in the time of 1 8th, 1 16th, If you need other patterns, you can extend this approach. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] bariolage beaming
On Mar 11, 2007, at 10:44 AM, Johannes Gebauer wrote: I know this has been discussed in the past, but I forgot what the outcome was, and perhaps there are better ways in newer versions? What is the best way to get bariolage beaming? Ie, first note down, second note up, third note down, fourth note up, all ups beamed to gether, all downs beamed together. I know this is possible with some canny workarounds, but what is the best way to do it? Am I missing something? I had no trouble in FinMac entering eighth note, eighth rest for a bar of 4/4 in layer 1, then going back and beaming everything together (watch what you are on, because if you hit the / while on a NOTE, it BREAKS the beam and you can't create one at all for that note now! Make sure you are on the REST.) After that, THEN hide the rests. Repeat for layer 2, but start with a rest. It all works perfectly. Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] tuplet slurs
On 11.03.2007 Darcy James Argue wrote: Are there settings for tuplet slurs which produce acceptable slurs? No. What a disaster. Why wasn't this fixed when they did Engraver tuplets? Oh well. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] bariolage beaming
On 11.03.2007 Christopher Smith wrote: Am I missing something? I had no trouble in FinMac entering eighth note, eighth rest for a bar of 4/4 in layer 1, then going back and beaming everything together (watch what you are on, because if you hit the / while on a NOTE, it BREAKS the beam and you can't create one at all for that note now! Make sure you are on the REST.) After that, THEN hide the rests. Repeat for layer 2, but start with a rest. It all works perfectly. Sorry, I should have mentioned I need bariolage in 16th. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] bariolage beaming
On Mar 11, 2007, at 12:51 PM, Christopher Smith wrote: On Mar 11, 2007, at 10:44 AM, Johannes Gebauer wrote: I know this has been discussed in the past, but I forgot what the outcome was, and perhaps there are better ways in newer versions? What is the best way to get bariolage beaming? Ie, first note down, second note up, third note down, fourth note up, all ups beamed to gether, all downs beamed together. I know this is possible with some canny workarounds, but what is the best way to do it? Am I missing something? I had no trouble in FinMac entering eighth note, eighth rest for a bar of 4/4 in layer 1, then going back and beaming everything together (watch what you are on, because if you hit the / while on a NOTE, it BREAKS the beam and you can't create one at all for that note now! Make sure you are on the REST.) After that, THEN hide the rests. Repeat for layer 2, but start with a rest. It all works perfectly. Sorry, I misunderstood. I just read the emails that came afterwards. The problem is the sixteenth beams getting broken. I got good results with a variation of Robert's approach in 2/4. I entered the starting sixteenths in Layer 1 as 4 sixteenths in the space of 1 half, tuplet indications hidden. I then entered in Layer 2 a sixteenth rest, which I hid, then 4 sixteenths as a tuplet in the space of 1 half again hidden. Theoretically, this makes the measure a sixteenth too long, but it spaced perfectly for me on the same repeated pitch. Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] bariolage beaming
At 05:39 PM 3/11/2007 +0100, Johannes Gebauer wrote: On 11.03.2007 Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: You can do that, then use the extend secondary beam tool, choose the left handle, double click for the dialog box, check only the secondary beams (not the primary beam), and drag it to the right. If you dislike the tiny gap it leaves on the left side, grab the right handle and drag it to the left. You mean, I should do that for like 12 measures? Isn't there a better way to do this? I don't know. It's just a few clicks drags from my p.o.v., and you can drag-copy the measure first and change pitches later if that helps. Robert's tuplet suggestions always work very well in these kinds of situations, but since I compose into Finale, it's too easy for me to forget where these were done when I go back to change something. Dennis ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] bariolage beaming
On 11.03.2007 Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: You mean, I should do that for like 12 measures? Isn't there a better way to do this? I don't know. It's just a few clicks drags from my p.o.v., and you can drag-copy the measure first and change pitches later if that helps. Actually, in this particular case, since I have already entered the music, it may well turn out to be easiest this way in combination with Robert's MassCopy plugin, which does copy these changes. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] bariolage beaming
On 3/11/07, Johannes Gebauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Robert's MassCopy plugin, For future reference, Mass Copy can also copy tuplets, so once you've entered the tedious tuplet pattern once, it is easy to replicate. It has occurred to me that it would be quite feasible to create a Bariolage Beam plugin that works similarly to the TGTools Tremolo tool. That is, enter normal 16ths (or whatever) and the plugin would convert it to L1/L2 bariolage with all the hidden tuplets automatically created. Maybe one of us will do that some day. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] ILLUSTRATOR and FINALE fonts
I may need to export EPS or postscript into ILLUSTRATOR to achieve certain editorial conventions. I cannot select stems in beamed eighth notes as an Item to adjust in ILLUSTRATOR. I can select noteheads, the beams themselves, and flags on various note values. I hope someone else has tried and succeeded;-) Henry Howey Professor of Music Sam Houston State University Box 2208 Huntsville, TX 77341 (936) 294-1364 http://www.shsu.edu/music/faculty/howey.php Owner of FINALE Discussion List ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: [Finale] bariolage beaming
Is this the kind of beaming you're after?: http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g3/owainsutton/bariolage.jpg I just put in groups of seven semiquavers, and used the custom stem tool to create blank stems for the skipped ones. The hidden rests are at the ends of the groups, so there's no problems with breaking beams. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Johannes Gebauer Sent: 11 March 2007 16:39 To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] bariolage beaming On 11.03.2007 Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: You can do that, then use the extend secondary beam tool, choose the left handle, double click for the dialog box, check only the secondary beams (not the primary beam), and drag it to the right. If you dislike the tiny gap it leaves on the left side, grab the right handle and drag it to the left. You mean, I should do that for like 12 measures? Isn't there a better way to do this? Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Copy/Insert screws up spacing
I would like to combine several movements of an orch. score using Fin07. But when I insert measures into the combined file, I lose my hand-crafted beat chart spacing (for some measures, not for others). Has anyone else seen this? Is there a workaround? -- Robert Patterson http://RobertGPatterson.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] bariolage beaming
Cool solution, Owain. Cheers, - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY On 11 Mar 2007, at 1:39 PM, Owain Sutton wrote: Is this the kind of beaming you're after?: http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g3/owainsutton/bariolage.jpg I just put in groups of seven semiquavers, and used the custom stem tool to create blank stems for the skipped ones. The hidden rests are at the ends of the groups, so there's no problems with breaking beams. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] bariolage beaming
On 11.03.2007 Owain Sutton wrote: Is this the kind of beaming you're after?: http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g3/owainsutton/bariolage.jpg I just put in groups of seven semiquavers, and used the custom stem tool to create blank stems for the skipped ones. The hidden rests are at the ends of the groups, so there's no problems with breaking beams. I had actually done this before, but in this particular case it doesn't work. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] ILLUSTRATOR and FINALE fonts
henry, this may or not solve the problem, but there are two different selection tools in illustrator that function quite differently. also make sure to click outside everything (eg. outside the page edge) to make sure NOTHING is selected before clicking on an item to select. i haven't had to do the kind of work you describe yet, but exporting as PDF has worked for most of my needs. another thing you can do is to simply leave the items blank or NOT enter them in finale, if you can do the items better with illustrator's built-in tools, since you have to work with it anyways. if you explain what you have to do, i might be able to help better. i'm no expert with illustrator, but have figured out enough to be able to do pretty much everything i need. you could also send me the EPS privately if you want, and i can have a look. -- shirling neueweise ... new music publishers mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :.../ http://newmusicnotation.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Applying edits on linked parts to score.
I have made numerous edits on parts (articulation placements etc.). They are now unlinked. Is there a way to re-link them and make them apply to the score globally? TIA, Chuck Chuck Israels 230 North Garden Terrace Bellingham, WA 98225-5836 phone (360) 671-3402 fax (360) 676-6055 www.chuckisraels.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: [Finale] bariolage beaming
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Johannes Gebauer Sent: 11 March 2007 18:41 To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] bariolage beaming On 11.03.2007 Owain Sutton wrote: Is this the kind of beaming you're after?: http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g3/owainsutton/bariolage.jpg I just put in groups of seven semiquavers, and used the custom stem tool to create blank stems for the skipped ones. The hidden rests are at the ends of the groups, so there's no problems with breaking beams. I had actually done this before, but in this particular case it doesn't work. Johannes What goes wrong with this method? ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Applying edits on linked parts to score.
in the manual pp 37-5 to 37-7, everything is explained. depending on what you want to do there are different ways to handle your request. everyone using linked parts should really read these pages v-e-e-e-r-y carefully, even if you are doing something you have done for years with finale, because the way things works is quite different in F07. several people have suggested this already several times since F07 came out; i can only emphasize its importance. I have made numerous edits on parts (articulation placements etc.). They are now unlinked. Is there a way to re-link them and make them apply to the score globally? -- shirling neueweise ... new music publishers mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :.../ http://newmusicnotation.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Applying edits on linked parts to score.
OK jef, I'm on it. I must admit to trying to avoid reading the manual, but there are some things that make it necessary with the linked parts. This seems to be one of them. Chuck On Mar 11, 2007, at 1:28 PM, shirling neueweise wrote: in the manual pp 37-5 to 37-7, everything is explained. depending on what you want to do there are different ways to handle your request. everyone using linked parts should really read these pages v-e-e-e- r-y carefully, even if you are doing something you have done for years with finale, because the way things works is quite different in F07. several people have suggested this already several times since F07 came out; i can only emphasize its importance. I have made numerous edits on parts (articulation placements etc.). They are now unlinked. Is there a way to re-link them and make them apply to the score globally? -- shirling neueweise ... new music publishers mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :.../ http://newmusicnotation.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale Chuck Israels 230 North Garden Terrace Bellingham, WA 98225-5836 phone (360) 671-3402 fax (360) 676-6055 www.chuckisraels.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] bariolage beaming
There is another way, but tedious (tho it did not take me much time), of getting bariolage beaming: using several Special tools, that might be useful in certain situations (don't know which, indeed): - First, input the notes as there were no bariolage involved (just the 16th notes) - Apply Couble/Split Stem Tool to change stem direction of desired notes. - Hide undesired stems (with Beam Stem Adjust Tool or with a blank stem with the Custom Stem Tool) - Reduce long bems with Beam Extension Tool as necessary. Yes, it's too much work, but you get what you want. I think this can be copied with Mass Edit or Robert Patterson's Mass Copy. You can check the result at http://www.geocities.com/rjunchaya/pub/Bariolage.jpg Hope it works for you Rafael Junchaya ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Applying edits on linked parts to score.
At 04:08 PM 3/11/2007, Chuck Israels wrote: I have made numerous edits on parts (articulation placements etc.). They are now unlinked. Is there a way to re-link them and make them apply to the score globally? In a word, no. When items have become unlinked, relinking them will only adjust the item in the part to match the item in the score, not the other way around. This is true whether you do Relink to Score from the Part, or Relink in All Parts from the score. If you want changes to affect both score and parts, you need to either (a) make the change to a linked item in the score, in which case it will also affect the part, or (b) make the change to a linked item in the part while holding down the modifier key (ctrl on Win), in which case it will also affect the score. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Applying edits on linked parts to score.
Aaron, That's what I was afraid would be the answer. Wouldn't it be a good feature to be able to edit in the part and then re-link that edit to the score keeping the edit as it had been done in the part? Seems to me to be a useful idea. Chuck On Mar 11, 2007, at 2:06 PM, Aaron Sherber wrote: At 04:08 PM 3/11/2007, Chuck Israels wrote: I have made numerous edits on parts (articulation placements etc.). They are now unlinked. Is there a way to re-link them and make them apply to the score globally? In a word, no. When items have become unlinked, relinking them will only adjust the item in the part to match the item in the score, not the other way around. This is true whether you do Relink to Score from the Part, or Relink in All Parts from the score. If you want changes to affect both score and parts, you need to either (a) make the change to a linked item in the score, in which case it will also affect the part, or (b) make the change to a linked item in the part while holding down the modifier key (ctrl on Win), in which case it will also affect the score. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale Chuck Israels 230 North Garden Terrace Bellingham, WA 98225-5836 phone (360) 671-3402 fax (360) 676-6055 www.chuckisraels.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Applying edits on linked parts to score.
Chuck, With linked parts, it's important to think ahead. If you want an edit in a part to filter back up into the score, you have to remember to hold down the override key (cmd on Mac) when you do it. I would like to emphatically second Jef's recommendation that everyone read the chapter on linked parts, *multiple times*, before attempting anything with linked parts. It's really NOT the kind of thing you can just figure out as you go, and if you don't know what you're doing before you start, errors can be extremely tedious to correct (as you discovered). Cheers, - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY On 11 Mar 2007, at 6:17 PM, Chuck Israels wrote: Aaron, That's what I was afraid would be the answer. Wouldn't it be a good feature to be able to edit in the part and then re-link that edit to the score keeping the edit as it had been done in the part? Seems to me to be a useful idea. Chuck On Mar 11, 2007, at 2:06 PM, Aaron Sherber wrote: At 04:08 PM 3/11/2007, Chuck Israels wrote: I have made numerous edits on parts (articulation placements etc.). They are now unlinked. Is there a way to re-link them and make them apply to the score globally? In a word, no. When items have become unlinked, relinking them will only adjust the item in the part to match the item in the score, not the other way around. This is true whether you do Relink to Score from the Part, or Relink in All Parts from the score. If you want changes to affect both score and parts, you need to either (a) make the change to a linked item in the score, in which case it will also affect the part, or (b) make the change to a linked item in the part while holding down the modifier key (ctrl on Win), in which case it will also affect the score. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale Chuck Israels 230 North Garden Terrace Bellingham, WA 98225-5836 phone (360) 671-3402 fax (360) 676-6055 www.chuckisraels.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] ILLUSTRATOR and FINALE fonts
I've been able to export as EPS and edit in Illustrator. I just tried again and it works with 2k7 and AI CS2. What might be happening to you is that the stem is placed behind the notehead character, which takes up almost the entire vertical real estate of the stem. Try any of the following: 1) Click at the very tip top of the stem (or whatever end is farthest from the notehead). 2) Right-click and try selecting the object below the notehead. 3) Drag-select around the stem, then deselect the parts you don't want. 4) Click on the noteheads, put them on a different layer, lock it, then try selecting the stems on the original layer. I don't know if that's the problem you're having, but if it is, one of those methods will get the stem. Rich On Mar 11, 2007, at 1:51 PM, Henry E. Howey wrote: I may need to export EPS or postscript into ILLUSTRATOR to achieve certain editorial conventions. I cannot select stems in beamed eighth notes as an Item to adjust in ILLUSTRATOR. I can select noteheads, the beams themselves, and flags on various note values. I hope someone else has tried and succeeded;-) ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Finale 2007 Mac HYPHENS in lyrics
Does anyone else still have disappearing hypens in lyrics in Finale 2007? I met a couple of developers who deny the problem ever existed. Frank Fitzpatrick ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
